Updated MagmaTrooper CRL Work

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

This will where discussion and revision of the MT CRL will take place.

 

I think we should add level two/three certification as per the specialist guidelines.

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

Alright here is version one of the CRL. I included a new level of expert and added specialist to the CRL.

Quite frankly we should include the specialist to all the Spec Ops CRL's since most don't know about this level and the requirements for it should be visible so when people are constructing their armor they have the choice to do either or.

The added expert items are very minimal as the goal is not to go the elitist route but at the same time have some sort of higher standard beside the basic. Having these options I think is important.

The most formatted neat version I have as a .doc if you are interested I can email it to you.

 

 

Description: Magma Trooper

Prefix: TX

Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment

Context: The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology; Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary

The 501st approval requirements are listed in black.

The Spec Ops Detachment defines one additional, optional level of costuming excellence. In the page below, requirements for level 2 “Expert†are in blue. Requirements for Level 3 "Specialist" are in red. Please visit the Spec Ops Detachment web site for a full description of these standards.

For 501st membership only the requirements in black need to be met.

Special Notes:

• The armor parts shall be gloss red and made from one of these types of materials or like materials: Fiberglass, ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene), or HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene).
  

• Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.
  

Required Costume Components

The following costume components must be present and appear as described below for approval

Helmet

For 501st approval:

• Traps (trapezoids on dome of the helmet) and tears (areas beneath the corners of eye lenses) are gray.
  
• Acceptable lens colors are black, smoke or dark green and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the eyes.
  
• The grey “ears†has three to four bumps.
  
• Aerators (cylinders on either side of the vocoder) are black, and screening is silver.
  
• Frown must have either 6 or 8 teeth cut our and grey coloring must not leave indented areas.
  
• The chin/vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is black
  
• Tube stripes are black and may number between 9 and 15 per side. There does not need to be the same number per side.
  
• Tears and traps may be hand painted, decals or decals that replicate hand painting. They must be grey with black outlines and highlights.
  
• FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR helmet does not meet the basic 501^st requirements.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are black
  

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Correct hovi or resin cast hovi mic tips
  
• Ears should have three visible screws used per side, one above and below the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet. Two screws per side one above the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet.
  
• The drop from the ears must also bend towards the back of the helmet, can't fall vertically.
  

Under Suit

For 501st approval:

• Black non-textured material, either one piece or two piece construction with no visible zippers or logos.
  

Neck Seal

For 501st approval:

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.
  

Shoulder Straps

For 501st approval:

• These must be securely mounted in the front. May free float in the back.
  

• They may be affixed with rivets, Velcro or adhesives.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• No visible rivets are allowed.
  

Chest Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must overlap the abdominal plate
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Back Armor

For 501st approval:

• Contains an “O II†design with little or no overlap of the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Gloves

For 501st approval:

• Must be black rubber, nomex, leather, or leather like material, with no visible straps or logos. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Hand Plates

For 501st approval:

• Must be roughly pentagonal in shape.
  
• The hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove.
  
• As an alternative to plastic, these may be made out of latex or latex-like material.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Shoulder Bell Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must have one on each shoulder.
  
• The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Bicep Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Forearm Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Abdomen Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• The ab plate has a button area with 6 black buttons, 2 grey buttons
  

• Buttons are approximately 7/16†in diameter
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Armor side gaps need to be closed.
  

• This should be done by adding a shim of similar material that must be the color as the ab and back plate.
  

• Shims should fit flush and have minimal seam showing between the ab/back plates.
  

Kidney Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Posterior Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If Separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Belt

For 501st approval:

• Belt face is made of plastic
  
• Belt proper made be made from glossy red material or red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5†wide.
  
• The drop boxes dangles from the sides of the plastic belt face via black straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Drop boxes must have full inner drop boxes to close the back. Flat covers are not allowed
  
• Drop boxes are vertically aligned with the end of the ammo belt with minimal gap between belt and box.
  
• The corners of the plastic ammo belt shall be trimmed at 45 degree angle.
  

Thermal Detonator

For 501st approval:

• (AKA 02 canister) attaches to the center of back of the belt.
  
• Detonator consists of an all grey cylinder.
  

• The cylinder is between 2†to 2.5†diameter with red end caps on each end.
  

• The red control panel pad faces upwards with the controls/round washer style detail closet to the end of the right end cap
  
• Total length is approximately 7.50â€.
  
• The detonator is attached via metal or metallic appearing clips, approximately 1†wide.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Thermal detonator belt clips are positioned with little to no gap between the clips and the end caps.
  

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Thigh Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be closed in the back.
  
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• The bottom corner of the thigh ammo belt are rounded off.
  
• Thigh ammo belt is attached to the thigh with a solid head rivet
  

• Rivet head is painted red.
  

Lower Leg Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must close in the back. Knee plates mount on both legs.
  
• The sniper knee plate is affixed to the top of the left shin.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Sniper knee plate is aligned with the ridges on the shin.
  
• Sniper knee plate does not have visible rivets or fasteners attaching it to the shins.
  

Boots

For 501st approval:

• Boots are above ankle height and made of red leather or leather like material.
  
  • White or other color boots may be painted red so long as the boots are maintained to remain the proper color.
    

  [*]Small U shaped elastic sections on both sides of the ankle.

  [*]All stitching is red.

• Unnecessary or decorative stitching must not be present.
  

• Flat sole with a short heel.
  
• No buckles or laces.
  
• Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
  

• Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• There is no seam present on the front of the boot.
  

For level three certification (if applicable):

Holster

For 501st approval:

• Holster is made of completely black leather or leather like material.
  
• Holster is worn on the left side of belt.
  
• The holster may be attached to the belt from behind using two fasteners. (one per strap)
  

• The fasteners may be rivets, snaps or Chicago screws.
  

Optional Accessories

Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present must meet the guidelines.

Black Pauldron

For 501st approval:

• Must be black in color and made from vinyl or leather. Must be worn over the right shoulder.
  

E-11 Blaster

For 501st approval:

• Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Folding stock (does not need to function).
  
• A real replica ammo counter – based off of a Hengstler counter – shall be present
  
• D-ring mounted on the rear
  
• Sterling based blasters have the correct M-38 or M-19 style scope.
  
• Two power cylinders on the magazine housing.
  
• Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters shall have a total of 6 T-racks on blaster (leaving the lowest row on the magazine housing side uncovered)
  
• If using the Hasbro E-11 toy blaster and you cover all the rows of holes, the blaster will have 7 T-tracks total. But if you want to have the correct number of T-tracks (6 total) with the lower row of open vent holes on the magazine housing side, then you shall cover the pre-existing rows of holes with T-tracks, and grind off the lower integrated T-track on the magazine housing side and drill a new row of holes in its place.
  
• No ESB/ROTJ greeblies are allowed on the blaster.
  

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Hasbro blasters are not allowed, even conversions.
  

SE-14R

For 501st approval:

• Based on the cover of Lumiya: Dark Star of the Empire comic as seen in the Star Wars Galaxy Magazine issue # 3
  

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

Any reason we wouldnt want to go the branching route like we've done for a few other crl's where one is more true to the screen and one to the art. See the shadow scout write up as an example.

[toddo[TX]]

Pretty close. I eliminated references to a Level 2 as discussed in your CRL update thread. Otherwise I made changes in blue.

 

Alright here is version one of the CRL. I included a new level of expert and added specialist to the CRL.

Quite frankly we should include the specialist to all the Spec Ops CRL's since most don't know about this level and the requirements for it should be visible so when people are constructing their armor they have the choice to do either or.

The added expert items are very minimal as the goal is not to go the elitist route but at the same time have some sort of higher standard beside the basic. Having these options I think is important.

The most formatted neat version I have as a .doc if you are interested I can email it to you.

 

 

Description: Magma Trooper

Prefix: TX

Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment

Context: The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology; Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary

The 501st approval requirements are listed in black.

The Spec Ops Detachment defines one additional, optional level of costuming excellence. In the page below, requirements for level 2 “Expert” are in blue. Requirements for Level 3 "Specialist" are in red. Please visit the Spec Ops Detachment web site for a full description of these standards.

For 501st membership only the requirements in black need to be met.

Special Notes:

• The armor parts shall be gloss red and made from one of these types of materials or like materials: Fiberglass, ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene), or HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene).
  

• Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.
  

Required Costume Components

The following costume components must be present and appear as described below for approval

Helmet

For 501st approval:

• Traps (trapezoids on dome of the helmet) and tears (areas beneath the corners of eye lenses) are gray.
  
• Acceptable lens colors are black, smoke or dark green and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the eyes.
  
• The grey “ears” has three to four bumps.
  
• Aerators (cylinders on either side of the vocoder) are black, and screening is silver.
  
• Frown must have either 6 or 8 teeth cut our and grey coloring must not leave indented areas.
  
• The chin/vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is black
  
• Tube stripes are black and may number between 9 and 15 per side. There does not need to be the same number per side.
  
• Tears and traps may be hand painted, decals or decals that replicate hand painting. They must be grey with black outlines and highlights.
  
• FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR helmet does not meet the basic 501^st requirements.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are black
  

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Correct hovi or resin cast hovi mic tips
  
• Ears should have three visible screws used per side, one above and below the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet. Two screws per side one above the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet.
  
• The drop from the ears must also bend towards the back of the helmet, can't fall vertically.
  

Under Suit

For 501st approval:

• Black non-textured material, either one piece or two piece construction with no visible zippers or logos.
  

Neck Seal

For 501st approval:

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.
  

Shoulder Straps

For 501st approval:

• These must be securely mounted in the front. May free float in the back.
  

• They may be affixed with rivets, Velcro or adhesives.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• No visible rivets are allowed.
  

Chest Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must overlap the abdominal plate
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Back Armor

For 501st approval:

• Contains an “O II” design with little or no overlap of the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Gloves

For 501st approval:

• Must be black rubber, nomex, leather, or leather like material, with no visible straps or logos. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Gloves shall be rubber or rubber-like chemical gloves, in black.
  

Hand Plates

For 501st approval:

• Must be roughly pentagonal in shape.
  
• The hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove.
  
• As an alternative to plastic, these may be made out of latex or latex-like material.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Shoulder Bell Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must have one on each shoulder being a flat black in color.
  
• The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Bicep Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Forearm Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

Abdomen Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• The ab plate has a button area with 6 black buttons, 2 grey buttons
  

• Buttons are approximately 7/16” in diameter
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Armor side gaps need to be closed.
  

• This should be done by adding a shim of similar material that must be the color as the ab and back plate.
  

• Shims should fit flush and have minimal seam showing between the ab/back plates.
  

Kidney Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Posterior Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If Separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

 

Belt

For 501st approval:

• Belt face is made of plastic
  
• Belt proper made be made from glossy red material or red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5” wide.
  
• The drop boxes dangles from the sides of the plastic belt face via black straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt
  
• May be black in color.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Belt proper made be made from red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5” wide.
  

Thermal Detonator

For 501st approval:

• (AKA 02 canister) attaches to the center of back of the belt.
  
• Detonator consists of an all grey cylinder.
  

• The cylinder is between 2” to 2.5” diameter with red end caps on each end.
  

• The red control panel pad faces upwards with the controls/round washer style detail closet to the end of the right end cap
  
• Total length is approximately 7.50”.
  
• The detonator is attached via metal or metallic appearing clips, approximately 1” wide.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Thermal detonator belt clips are positioned with little to no gap between the clips and the end caps.
  

 

 

Thigh Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be closed in the back.
  
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Thigh ammo belt is attached to thigh with a solid head rivet or fastener in the upper corner and fastened to the lower thigh ridge.
  
  • The solid head rivet attachment is painted red.
    
  • Standard pop rivets are not allowed
    

  [*]The bottom corners of the thigh ammo belt are rounded off.

 

Lower Leg Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must close in the back. Knee plates mount on both legs.
  
• The sniper knee plate is affixed to the top of the left shin.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

For level three certification (if applicable):

• Sniper knee plate is aligned with the ridges on the shin.
  
• Sniper knee plate does not have visible rivets or fasteners attaching it to the shins.
  

Boots

For 501st approval:

• Boots are above ankle height and made of red leather or leather like material.
  
  • White or other color boots may be painted red so long as the boots are maintained to remain the proper color.
    

  [*]Small U shaped elastic sections on both sides of the ankle.

  [*]All stitching is red.

• Unnecessary or decorative stitching must not be present.
  

• Flat sole with a short heel.
  
• No buckles or laces.
  
• Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
  

• Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• There is no seam present on the front of the boot.
  

 

Holster

For 501st approval:

• Holster is made of completely black leather or leather like material.
  
• Holster is worn on the left side of belt.
  
• The holster may be attached to the belt from behind using two fasteners. (one per strap)
  

• The fasteners may be rivets, snaps or Chicago screws.
  

Optional Accessories

Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present must meet the guidelines.

Black Pauldron

For 501st approval:

• Must be black in color and made from vinyl or leather. Must be worn over the right shoulder.
  

E-11 Blaster

For 501st approval:

• Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Folding stock (does not need to function).
  
• A real replica ammo counter – based off of a Hengstler counter – shall be present
  
• D-ring mounted on the rear
  
• Sterling based blasters have the correct M-38 or M-19 style scope.
  
• Two power cylinders on the magazine housing.
  
• Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters shall have a total of 6 T-racks on blaster (leaving the lowest row on the magazine housing side uncovered)
  
• If using the Hasbro E-11 toy blaster and you cover all the rows of holes, the blaster will have 7 T-tracks total. But if you want to have the correct number of T-tracks (6 total) with the lower row of open vent holes on the magazine housing side, then you shall cover the pre-existing rows of holes with T-tracks, and grind off the lower integrated T-track on the magazine housing side and drill a new row of holes in its place.
  
• No ESB/ROTJ greeblies are allowed on the blaster.
  

 

SE-14R

For 501st approval:

• Based on the cover of Lumiya: Dark Star of the Empire comic as seen in the Star Wars Galaxy Magazine issue # 3
  

[ThomasDurbin[TX]]

It looks good at this point, but I noticed a few items.

 

It looks like it should say "3" grey buttons, not "2" in the Abdomen Plate Armor section.

In the Lower Leg Armor section, it says "Knee plates mount on both legs." But, we only use a left knee "sniper" plate.

In the Thermal Detonator section, "cylinder is between 2†to 2.5†diameter" should be "cylinder is between 2 and 2.5" diameter."

 

I think we should mention in a general section at the top that the "Classic" Red Armor and the 2013 issue Red Armor are both approved kits. 2 distinct photo sections will help show the differences and options.

Also, I think we should change the Description line from "Magma Trooper" to "Lumiya's Royal Guard Stormtrooper". Magma is a nice nickname, but the CRL should have the formal name.

 

Thanks for all the input. I look forward to working through the details and getting more comments from our Troops.

[toddo[TX]]

Good catches there Thomas on the details.

 

The armor sculpts should not make a difference aside from the FX-style helmet which is no longer accepted by the Legion. The differences in sculpts are fine and fall under the general umbrella of the CRL.

 

As far the the name of the character, as the Gentle Giant statue is our best complete source, I think we need to keep the title consistent with that even though the characters originated in the comic as Lumiya's Royal Stormtroopers.

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

Ok here is the updated version of the CRL. For the armor as long as it is red and adheres to the CRL there is no reason to make a distinction based on the year it was made. The only thing that is not approvable is the FX helmet. Also I agree Magma Trooper should be kept as the name.

 

Description: Magma Trooper

Prefix: TX

Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment

Context: The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology; Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary

The 501st approval requirements are listed in black.

The Spec Ops Detachment defines one additional, optional level of costuming excellence. In the page below, requirements for level 2 are in blue. Please visit the Spec Ops Detachment web site for a full description of these standards.

For 501st membership only the requirements in black need to be met.

Special Notes:

• The armor parts shall be gloss red and made from one of these types of materials or like materials: Fiberglass, ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene), or HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene).
  

• Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.
  

Required Costume Components

The following costume components must be present and appear as described below for approval

Helmet

For 501st approval:

• Traps (trapezoids on dome of the helmet) and tears (areas beneath the corners of eye lenses) are gray.
  
• Acceptable lens colors are black, smoke or dark green and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the eyes.
  
• The grey “ears†has three to four bumps.
  
• Aerators (cylinders on either side of the vocoder) are black, and screening is silver.
  
• Frown must have either 6 or 8 teeth cut our and grey coloring must not leave indented areas.
  
• The chin/vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is black
  
• Tube stripes are black and may number between 9 and 15 per side. There does not need to be the same number per side.
  
• Tears and traps may be hand painted, decals or decals that replicate hand painting. They must be grey with black outlines and highlights.
  
• FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR helmet does not meet the basic 501^st requirements.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are black
  
• Correct hovi or resin cast hovi mic tips
  
• Ears should have three visible screws used per side, one above and below the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet. Two screws per side one above the ear bump and one at the base of the helmet.
  
• The drop from the ears must also bend towards the back of the helmet, can't fall vertically.
  

Under Suit

For 501st approval:

• Black non-textured material, either one piece or two piece construction with no visible zippers or logos.
  

Neck Seal

For 501st approval:

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.
  

Shoulder Straps

For 501st approval:

• These must be securely mounted in the front. May free float in the back.
  

• They may be affixed with rivets, Velcro or adhesives.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• No visible rivets are allowed.
  

Chest Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must overlap the abdominal plate
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Back Armor

For 501st approval:

• Contains an “O II†design with little or no overlap of the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Gloves

For 501st approval:

• Must be black rubber, nomex, leather, or leather like material, with no visible straps or logos. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Gloves shall be rubber or rubber like chemical gloves, in black.
  

Hand Plates

For 501st approval:

• Must be roughly pentagonal in shape.
  
• The hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove.
  
• As an alternative to plastic, these may be made out of latex or latex-like material.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

 

Shoulder Bell Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must have one on each shoulder.
  
• The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Bicep Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Forearm Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be fully closed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Abdomen Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• The ab plate has a button area with 6 black buttons, 3 grey buttons
  

• Buttons are approximately 7/16†in diameter
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Armor side gaps need to be closed.
  

• This should be done by adding a shim of similar material that must be the color as the ab and back plate.
  

• Shims should fit flush and have minimal seam showing between the ab/back plates.
  

Kidney Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

Posterior Plate Armor

For 501st approval:

• Single kidney butt plate is allowable.
  
• If Separate butt plate is used it should line up below the bottom of the belt with the ab plate, with minimal gap between it and the kidney plate.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

 

Belt

For 501st approval:

• Belt face is made of plastic
  
• Belt proper made be made from glossy red material or red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5†wide.
  
• The drop boxes dangles from the sides of the plastic belt face via black straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Drop boxes must have full inner drop boxes to close the back. Flat covers are not allowed
  
• Belt proper must be made from red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5†wide.
  

Thermal Detonator

For 501st approval:

• (AKA 02 canister) attaches to the center of back of the belt.
  
• Detonator consists of an all grey cylinder.
  

• The cylinder is between 2†and 2.5†diameter with red end caps on each end.
  

• The red control panel pad faces upwards with the controls/round washer style detail closet to the end of the right end cap
  
• Total length is approximately 7.50â€.
  
• The detonator is attached via metal or metallic appearing clips, approximately 1†wide.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Thermal detonator belt clips are positioned with little to no gap between the clips and the end caps.
  

Thigh Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must be closed in the back.
  
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• The bottom corner of the thigh ammo belt are rounded off.
  
• Thigh ammo belt is attached to the thigh with a solid head rivet or fastener in the upper corner and fastened to the lower thigh ridge.
  

• The solid head rivet attachment is painted red.
  
• Standard pop rivets are not allowed
  

Lower Leg Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must close in the back. Knee plates mount on both legs.
  
• The sniper knee plate is affixed to the top of the left shin.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Sniper knee plate is aligned with the ridges on the shin.
  
• Sniper knee plate does not have visible rivets or fasteners attaching it to the shins.
  

Boots

For 501st approval:

• Boots are above ankle height and made of red leather or leather like material.
  
  • White or other color boots may be painted red so long as the boots are maintained to remain the proper color.
    

  [*]Small U shaped elastic sections on both sides of the ankle.

  [*]All stitching is red.

• Unnecessary or decorative stitching must not be present.
  

• Flat sole with a short heel.
  
• No buckles or laces.
  
• Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
  

• Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• There is no seam present on the front of the boot.
  

Holster

For 501st approval:

• Holster is made of completely black leather or leather like material.
  
• Holster is worn on the left side of belt.
  
• The holster may be attached to the belt from behind using two fasteners. (one per strap)
  

• The fasteners may be rivets, snaps or Chicago screws.
  

Optional Accessories

Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present must meet the guidelines.

Black Pauldron

For 501st approval:

• Must be black in color and made from vinyl or leather. Must be worn over the right shoulder.
  

E-11 Blaster

For 501st approval:

• Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.
  

For level two certification (if applicable):

• Folding stock (does not need to function).
  
• A real replica ammo counter – based off of a Hengstler counter – shall be present
  
• D-ring mounted on the rear
  
• Sterling based blasters have the correct M-38 or M-19 style scope.
  
• Two power cylinders on the magazine housing.
  
• Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters shall have a total of 6 T-racks on blaster (leaving the lowest row on the magazine housing side uncovered)
  
• If using the Hasbro E-11 toy blaster and you cover all the rows of holes, the blaster will have 7 T-tracks total. But if you want to have the correct number of T-tracks (6 total) with the lower row of open vent holes on the magazine housing side, then you shall cover the pre-existing rows of holes with T-tracks, and grind off the lower integrated T-track on the magazine housing side and drill a new row of holes in its place.
  
• No ESB/ROTJ greeblies are allowed on the blaster.
  

SE-14R

For 501st approval:

• Based on the cover of Lumiya: Dark Star of the Empire comic as seen in the Star Wars Galaxy Magazine issue # 3
  

[ThomasDurbin[TX]]

This looks good.

 

For clarification, the item I personally need to do more research on is the definition of helmet types (FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR helmet does not meet the basic 501^st requirements.)

I have large and small (older FX and AP, I believe) white helmets as well as the classic and new red kits and helmets. I'll look at them all together just to get a fresh look and feel for the differences and see if I can find some useful discussions on the reasons FISD or LCS may have used against FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR. I am under the impression that the classic red helmet is made from the same molds as one of those, but haven't found 100% confirmation. It isn't easy to sift through all the historical info and find the pertinent reasoning and documentation. Maybe it is simply a comparison in proportionality to helmets in the original movies.

 

Regardless of which way we go with the CRL, I don't believe the classic red armor, including the helmet, should be denied approval if a member acquires one of the rare few sets that exist. It will only matter to about 10 people, at max, so no need to make it a bigger debate. In the future, if someone from LCS argues against a transfer of classic red armor to another member or a prospective new member, we can deal with that at that time. I doubt that it will happen any time soon.

 

Certainly, members with existing classic red armor cannot be disqualified or required to change helmets.

 

New kits, of course, will be shipped with new helmets, so we don't have a problem there.

 

Do we need to review the possibility of someone painting an old white armor kit and cover that in the CRL more explicitly?

I think that anyone painting a set of armor to try to match the red kits will need a new (small) helmet, if/when we approve painted versions.

How do we decide if armor painted red matches the red abs kits well enough for official membership?

Maybe this doesn't matter much, either, since it is unlikely to happen now that more red kits exist.

 

Also, I'm still interested in the true history of the classic red armor.

I've heard the general story we've all seen. Only about 10 sets were made, maybe in England. But, I'm still not sure what year or where or who made them or why. I've heard it was for a special project, maybe filmed, but never seen footage. What I'd love to see is reliable documentation and actually find the person that made the original red kits.

Anyone with solid info on that please put it here for everyone to share.

That would be cool history to reliably document here!

 

Thanks and GO SPEC OPS!

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

Izzi (I think it was Izzi) had a good photo comparing buckets posted on the forum. Might be able to track it down.

[Chef[501st]]

The main reason for removing the old FX bucket is because it is massively oversizes (approx 10% bigger).

 

It's really noticeable when put next to one of the correct size, and makes you look like a 'bobble head' if you're even vaguely smaller than 6' tall and reasonably heavily set.

 

I had one originally and being a 'big bloke' I just about pulled it off, but it was enormous compared to everyone else's.

 

 

 

I believe that the original style FX armour sets are still 'clearable' and I assume that most of the existing sets of 'Magma' armour are derived from these moulds.

 

I don't think there needs be a distinction (barring the helmet) at this stage, and as and when people's costumes change hands, the issues that arise from this can be dealt with at the time.

 

This sort of situation has been playing out for a while now with the standard TK and seems to have gone without too much of a hitch.

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

This looks good.

 

For clarification, the item I personally need to do more research on is the definition of helmet types (FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR helmet does not meet the basic 501^st requirements.)

I have large and small (older FX and AP, I believe) white helmets as well as the classic and new red kits and helmets. I'll look at them all together just to get a fresh look and feel for the differences and see if I can find some useful discussions on the reasons FISD or LCS may have used against FX/MRCE and/or EFLX PCR. I am under the impression that the classic red helmet is made from the same molds as one of those, but haven't found 100% confirmation. It isn't easy to sift through all the historical info and find the pertinent reasoning and documentation. Maybe it is simply a comparison in proportionality to helmets in the original movies.

 

Regardless of which way we go with the CRL, I don't believe the classic red armor, including the helmet, should be denied approval if a member acquires one of the rare few sets that exist. It will only matter to about 10 people, at max, so no need to make it a bigger debate. In the future, if someone from LCS argues against a transfer of classic red armor to another member or a prospective new member, we can deal with that at that time. I doubt that it will happen any time soon.

 

Certainly, members with existing classic red armor cannot be disqualified or required to change helmets.

 

New kits, of course, will be shipped with new helmets, so we don't have a problem there.

 

Do we need to review the possibility of someone painting an old white armor kit and cover that in the CRL more explicitly?

I think that anyone painting a set of armor to try to match the red kits will need a new (small) helmet, if/when we approve painted versions.

How do we decide if armor painted red matches the red abs kits well enough for official membership?

Maybe this doesn't matter much, either, since it is unlikely to happen now that more red kits exist.

 

Also, I'm still interested in the true history of the classic red armor.

I've heard the general story we've all seen. Only about 10 sets were made, maybe in England. But, I'm still not sure what year or where or who made them or why. I've heard it was for a special project, maybe filmed, but never seen footage. What I'd love to see is reliable documentation and actually find the person that made the original red kits.

Anyone with solid info on that please put it here for everyone to share.

That would be cool history to reliably document here!

 

Thanks and GO SPEC OPS!

 

As far as I know if you have already been approved with the FX helmet you can not be disapproved.As far as i know once approved and if you stay active based on the 501st legions rules of what it means to be active you wont lose your approval.

 

If someone purchases and older kit and if it comes with an FX helmet the helmet will need to be replaced. The 501st legion does not approve FX helmets so that is not something that can be overlooked or changed as I know there was a long discussion about it somewhere on the 501st legion forum. That is a 501st legion rule and we cant make exceptions about that.

 

As far as if someone paints their kit red or it comes already red is irrelevant as long as it adheres to the CRL.

Approval process is by the local garrison GML or whomever so its up to them and they will base that on whats available in the CRL. Now if they contact us asking about the shade of red etc that we will have to cross that bridge when it arises.

 

I know that a few members have gone white to red using high quality automotive paint so I dont forsee much of an issue but I dont think it would be wise to try and add a long explanation in the CRL. The CRL is meant to be a guideline on how the armor should look and any specific questions are usually answered in costumes detachment forum in build threads etc.

 

The red armor first appeared in Star Wars Galaxy Magazine #3 Spring 1995 based on comic story about Lumiya Dark Star of the Empire.

The gentle giant created only 400 statues world wide in possibly 2009 or 2010 maybe earlier i had a hard time trying to locate the actual time frame

It may have also appeared earlier in this book The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology; Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary which was published back in 1998

 

As far as who made the first red abs kit I have no idea so that would be interesting if you could find that out and also some more interesting things about the magmatrooper that we don't know.

I am sure folks would be interested to read what you have found out.

 

Those were all very awesome points and good questions thanks Thomas

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

Izzi (I think it was Izzi) had a good photo comparing buckets posted on the forum. Might be able to track it down.

http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/122-how-to-pick-a-tx-bucket/

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

Nice find!

[ThomasDurbin[TX]]

For reference:

 

I posted my old and new Red helmet photos in this thread a while ago:

 

http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/3204-new-helmet/

[SpudTrooper[TX]]

Why does it say the belt can be black?

Belt

For 501st approval:

• Belt face is made of plastic
  
• Belt proper made be made from glossy red material or red canvas. Must be 3 to 3.5†wide.
  
• The drop boxes dangles from the sides of the plastic belt face via black straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt
  
• May be black in color.
  

[SpudTrooper[TX]]

Why is the shoulder bell black?

 

Shoulder Bell Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must have one on each shoulder being a flat black in color.
  

The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

Why is the shoulder bell black?

 

Shoulder Bell Armor

For 501st approval:

• Must have one on each shoulder being a flat black in color.
  

The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical

Good catches I will change that.

Thank you

[Krazytrooper[501st]]

I put up a thread about adding the DLT20A Assualt Rifle. I think it would be cool to be able to have different options and it would give us something new to build.

 

The new black series magma comes with the DLT20A. Just my opinions. And the fact that the gun is totally bad ass hahah

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

The biggest issue is having a non-action figure reference. Im all for it when we get a proper reference for it. Also, no reason you cant do it for non-official events.

[Krazytrooper[501st]]

Im a little lost since Im still new to all of this. What do you mean by having a non-action figure reference? What type of reference are you looking for? The new black series magma comes with the DLT20A. Thats what I was using as a reference

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

Action figures are notorously inconsistent and as such not typically acceptible as costume reference for 501st approval. A movie, a comic, or even a licensed detail bust could probably get us there.

[ThomasDurbin[TX]]

Action figures are notorously inconsistent and as such not typically acceptible as costume reference for 501st approval. A movie, a comic, or even a licensed detail bust could probably get us there.

 

References, that's the major problem with defining "Magma Trooper" and writing the CRL. I think it is not accurate to be using TK standards directly, including the type of bucket, for anything but White Armor. The red buckets, both old and new (large and small), should still be approvable. In fact, look at the only reference for Red armor and you'll see that the bucket is large and shaped differently than any TK bucket. Based on our only EU reference, one piece of art work from 1995, a big bucket is "best" for red armor.

 

At the end of the discussion, I think the CRL we have for red armor is fine, and it's not because I co-wrote it and did the original photos, but because it's good enough and general enough to get people headed in the right direction. The revision to include new red armor is necessary so that we have photos of both Original Red armor and New Red armor.

 

Now, back to Trooping. I was fortunate to represent Spec Ops in the Tucks Parade at Mardi Gras in NOLA last Saturday, FEB 06, with Bast Alpha Garrison.

And, I'm only 2 Troops away from the 75 mark in Red armor!

 

Go Spec Ops!

TD

[Darth Emphatic[CMD-DWM]]

75, nice Thomas!

[ThomasDurbin[TX]]

In the original and only art reference, I noticed that there is no knee plate on the top of the left shin armor. So, I believe that should be optional.

 

Also, it looks like the shins are either not closed in the front or have a black stripe, but I'm not sure. It could be the artist's way of showing some shadow or depth.

 

The helmets look big and more like a bubble than other buckets, hence greater accuracy with bigger buckets.

[DeathMOS30[501st]]

New toy came out I think it was last year. How will that affect the CRL? Considering most of the MT stuff was not only from the 1994 Star Wars Magazine but also from the gentle giant statue.

 

Are we actually going to get an updated CRL or is it going to stay as is?

 

Honestly looks good except for one item on there that needs to be changed has yet to me changed even though it was a 501st legion decision made a long time ago. Basically the FX helmet, which our local GML in Florida will not approve regardless of it being on the CRL, due to the simple fact that FX is not approvalable as per 501st legion decision a few years ago. Key words being 501st legion decision.

 

So instead of having to explain over and over again each individual that might end up with an FX helmet (which is rather unlikely) and why they have to spend more money on replacing their helmet it would be a good idea and the right thing to do by changing that part of the CRL.

 

I already had a shadow stormtrooper who was approved way before i even joined ended up replacing his FX helmet.

 

Good thing is most of the new kits coming out WTF, ATA, etc already come with the correct helmet.

 

Regardless I will at least make sure everyone in Florida has the correct information about helmet whether or not the CRL is changed.

It is the right thing to do and I am more interested in getting the new FL Spec Ops a smooth approval process.

 

Also not so sure why there is still this overwhelming need to include double pictures there is not a single CRL that has duplicate pictures of the same thing on there. Only one set is needed and considering its 2016 and there are so many better kits available keeping relevant should be of utmost importance.

 

Disney already said we weren't canon a year or so ago and now there is a new canon magmatrooper (which i don't like) so quite frankly keeping MT's relevant should really be important. Things are changing we already had a new movie come out last year, a new one is coming out again this year and seems every year is going to be new SW stuff. Things are changing we should change with it or be left behind.