Jinata Security/J-Sec

[Magyarsoldat[TX]]

Hi All!

I've been thinking of doing a J-Sec costume for a while and think i finally have enough material to put together a CRL. I was told this may be a good detachment to check interest on. Here is a short background from Wookieepedia, and all the images, including the final cut artwork, that i could find. Mostly its an amalgam of redish-brown stormtrooper armor with a blue tie jumpsuit. It shows several configurations of armor. Thank you all in advance for the help! And if anyone can help me with uploading the photos so you can click on them id appreciate it lol.

Jinata Security, also known as J-Sec, was a law enforcement agency based on the planet Vardos during the reign of the Galactic Empire. Several Jinata Security officers were present alongside the Aqualish Gleb when Iden Versio returned to her homeworld after being court-martialed for sedition. By 34 ABY, Protectorate Gleb ruled Vardos with the support of Jinata Security and the First Order. Jinata Security also supported Project Resurrection, a First Order initiative to create new stormtroopers using conscripted children. After Gleb was killed for her failures and Vardos was locked down by the First Order, J-Sec rebelled against their former allies^.

 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I did a little digging on this and pretty neat! I didn't realize there were so many different images on the internet for the J-Sec. @Raider can chime in on this as DL, but I believe it may end up over at the Underworld detachment since they have the Canto Bight Police Officer, and J-Sec doesn't appear to be a division of the Galactic Empire. We can definitely hit up the LMO's and see where it may be placed before checking over there.

Standby!

[Magyarsoldat[TX]]

16 minutes ago, IcyTrooper said:

I did a little digging on this and pretty neat! I didn't realize there were so many different images on the internet for the J-Sec. @Raider can chime in on this as DL, but I believe it may end up over at the Underworld detachment since they have the Canto Bight Police Officer, and J-Sec doesn't appear to be a division of the Galactic Empire. We can definitely hit up the LMO's and see where it may be placed before checking over there.

Standby!

I had made a post about it on Underworld with the same logic and I was told they didn't think it'd be a fit. Some friends told me Spec Ops may take it. I'm just excited to get it going :). I know during the Empire they were used as a proxy force, since Gleb held rank in the Empire.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Very cool.  Sidenote...Connecticut...was born there.  Still visit in-laws there like once a year.  What part are you from?

As far as J-Sec...I'm reading the wiki as well and I'm trying to determine if they are actually Imperial or not.  We take Imperial/FO costumes here.  We recently turned away Fenn Rau and his Protectors as an example of a Empire-affiliated but not actually Imperial group.  So is J-Sec like a contracted mercenary group?  That's my feeling, but the character Gleb's straddling of the fence is what is confusing me.  I see where Underworld would hesitate as this is a "law enforcement" group with Imperial/FO ties, not a criminal organization (depending on your point of view lol)...but they took Canto Bight Officers which would seem similar.  Hmmm.  I can speak to Deborah and gather her thoughts.

Before I do...you fully intend on building this to completion?

That said...there is a little-known category of "No Detachment Affiliation" to which a costume can belong.  We have alot of projects going on here at the moment with CRLs that are high priority right now...alot get sent our way...but if you just need some help and direction in getting one done, I'm sure our people wouldn't mind helping even if the costume ends up in the "NDA" category.  Have you started a text draft?

[Magyarsoldat[TX]]

Hello @Raider thank you for the reply. I’m from Old Saybrook originally now in Madison.
 

I do fully intend on completing the costume. Besides the neck piece, almost everything is TK or TS parts, so easy enough to source, and I’m working on getting a flightsuit in that color.
 

As for the crl, I have some preliminary language, but wanted some advice on how I should word it since there are 4 variants that appear in game, 5 if you count the Rodian in the poster. 
 

J-Sec seems like a sector security force, but not imperial military. Gleb probably holds rank so she can give orders to Imperial troops in her jurisdiction and in joint operations. 

 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

1 hour ago, Magyarsoldat said:

Hello @Raider thank you for the reply. I’m from Old Saybrook originally now in Madison.
 

I do fully intend on completing the costume. Besides the neck piece, almost everything is TK or TS parts, so easy enough to source, and I’m working on getting a flightsuit in that color.
 

As for the crl, I have some preliminary language, but wanted some advice on how I should word it since there are 4 variants that appear in game, 5 if you count the Rodian in the poster. 
 

J-Sec seems like a sector security force, but not imperial military. Gleb probably holds rank so she can give orders to Imperial troops in her jurisdiction and in joint operations. 

 

Ah wonderful memories in Old Saybrook.  My grandparents used to rent a beach house there in summers.  My in-laws currently live in Clinton though they are moving down here soon.

Anyways...

As far as detachment placement (which is ultimately up to LMOs but they do largely take detachment feedback as opposed to forcing detachment placement these days), based on what I see right now, I don't think Spec Ops is the spot...and if Underworld won't accept it this may be an NDA costume.  That said...I'm open to helping you out just know that it would be a lower priority then our primary projects right now.  A good starting point would probably be to sort out the variant reference pics and have sufficient reference photos (front, backs, sides, closeups if you can) of each.  In reality, you would probably want to create the CRL to whichever variant you personally would choose...and then if others wanted to build the other variants, they could be added to the CRL as tabbed "versions" (see our Mudtrooper CRL as an example of that).

Once you sort your reference pics, you would then start building your text (focus on the variant you would be building)...as you get a solid draft built, that's when I would suggest diving into the actual build itself...know what details are i the costume for sure before building and potentially having to undo or redo what you built.

[Magyarsoldat[TX]]

@RaiderOh nice! Where in CT did you live?

So I finished a preliminary draft of the CRLs. Since they all are the same with a few more bits added or removed, and I was in the zone doing it, I wrote all 4. Most of it is copy and paste from other crls. The neck piece/translator is the main difficult part, and I think until I get it 3D modeled it wont be up to snuff as written. I'll post it here for now if that is okay for people to comment/praise/scold/face palm. If its not alright please tell me and delete it.

 

Jinata Security CRLs
Trooper
Flight Suit- One piece blue coverall/jumpsuit/flight suit with a front invisible zipper.
    There is a horizontal seam or double-topstitched line that runs across the upper chest, but does not extend around the back.
        On the left bicep there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves.
    The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves.
    The right sleeve has a cargo pocket, about 6" (152mm) wide and 5.75" (146mm) on the bicep.
    The pocket has a 2"(50.8mm) flap.
    (2) large chest pockets and (2) large front pockets below the belt, without any zipper or flaps.
    (2) leg pockets with flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket.
   Size may differ - (Usually the width of the front pockets equals the width of the leg pockets).
    There is no compad pocket.
    There are no leg pockets below the knees.
    Weathered to match photo

Neck ring- Should fit loosely on the neck, but not large enough to pass over the head.
   All gunmetal colored with a rounded inner gasket and flat exterior panels
    Front panel consists of 1-A 4 pronged greeblie on its top, 2-2 blue toggle switches, and a small light readout within a square outline. Both on the upper half of the front face. 3-5 speaker holes on the lower half of the face.
    Flanking the front are two rectangular panels each with a rivet in all 4 corners
    Outside those are panels with one red light.
    A hose connects the back of each lit panel with the sides of the front panel.
    There is a small black rectangle at the back of the neck piece.
   To the right of the black panel is a raised panel with 3 black greeblies.

Neck seal- The neck seal is all black and consists of a half face mask and fabric circling the back and shoulders, and coming to a point on the chest.
    Wearing the half mask is optional.
Shoulder Armor- One on each shoulder. The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical.
    Both are painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    Right bell has a white J-Sec decal.
Gloves- Black in color, made of either rubber, nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/designs. The fingers are enclosed.
Chest- TK chest armor with molded lip around all edges.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    White J-sec decal on left peck.
    Shoulder strap covered by neck piece.
Back- TK backplate with "O II" design.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
Belt- Belt face is made of plastic (TK ammo belt) painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    The soft belt proper is black leather and  2.25" (57mm) to 2.5" (64mm) wide.
    Soft belt is connected to plastic by two snaps or rivets, one on each side.
    Belt corners are cut at right angles.
Thermal Detonator- (A.K.A. O2 canister) attaches to the center back of the belt. This is an all reddish-brown cylinder. The cylinder is between 2” (50mm) and 2.68"(68mm) in diameter with matching end caps on each end. The control panel pad faces upwards, with the controls/round washer style detail closest to the right end cap.
    The total length should be approximately 7.50" (190.5mm).
    The thermal detonator is attached via metal or metallic-appearing clips approximately 1/2" (12.7mm) to 3/4" (19mm) wide.
Shin Armor- Greaves close in the back. The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
     Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Boots- Boots are above ankle height and made of black leather or leather-like material.
    Flat sole with a short heel.
    No buckles or laces.
    Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
    Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.
Weapons- E-11, DLT20, DC-15, A280

Melee

Flight Suit- One piece blue coverall/jumpsuit/flight suit with a front invisible zipper.
    There is a horizontal seam or double-topstitched line that runs across the upper chest, but does not extend around the back.
        On the left bicep there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves.
    The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves.
    The right sleeve has a cargo pocket, about 6" (152mm) wide and 5.75" (146mm) on the bicep.
    The pocket has a 2"(50.8mm) flap.
    (2) large chest pockets and (2) large front pockets below the belt, without any zipper or flaps.
    (2) leg pockets with flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket.
   Size may differ - (Usually the width of the front pockets equals the width of the leg pockets).
    There is no compad pocket.
    There are no leg pockets below the knees.
    Weathered to match photo
Neck ring- Should fit loosely on the neck, but not large enough to pass over the head.
   All gunmetal colored with a rounded inner gasket and flat exterior panels
    Front panel consists of 1-A 4 pronged greeblie on its top, 2-2 blue toggle switches, and a small light readout within a square outline. Both on the upper half of the front face. 3-5 speaker holes on the lower half of the face.
    Flanking the front are two rectangular panels each with a rivet in all 4 corners
    Outside those are panels with one red light.
    A hose connects the back of each lit panel with the sides of the front panel.
    There is a small black rectangle at the back of the neck piece.
   To the right of the black panel is a raised panel with 3 black greeblies.
Neck seal- The neck seal is all black and consists of a half face mask and fabric circling the back and shoulders, and coming to a point on the chest.
    Wearing the half mask is optional.
Shoulder Armor- One bell on the right shoulder painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo with a white J-Sec decal.
    Shoulder is held on by a cross scrap around the torso with a reinforcing strap around the right torso.
Bicep- One bicep on the right arm that is fully closed.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
    Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Forearms- Forearms are fully closed.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
     Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Hand Plates- These shall be clam shell, or snowtrooper-style hand plates and not the trapezoidal design seen in A New Hope. The hand plates shall be mounted securely over the back of the glove.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Gloves- Black in color, made of either rubber, nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/designs. The fingers are enclosed.
Belt- Belt face is made of plastic (TK ammo belt) painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    The soft belt proper is black leather and  2.25" (57mm) to 2.5" (64mm) wide.
    Soft belt is connected to plastic by two snaps or rivets, one on each side.
    Belt corners are cut at right angles.
Thermal Detonator- (A.K.A. O2 canister) attaches to the center back of the belt. This is an all reddish-brown cylinder. The cylinder is between 2” (50mm) and 2.68"(68mm) in diameter with matching end caps on each end. The control panel pad faces upwards, with the controls/round washer style detail closest to the right end cap.
    The total length should be approximately 7.50" (190.5mm).
    The thermal detonator is attached via metal or metallic-appearing clips approximately 1/2" (12.7mm) to 3/4" (19mm) wide.
Gun belt- Black web belt above the main belt that connects to the shoulder cross strap.
    Holds up a holster on the right side.
Shin Armor- Greaves close in the back. The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
     Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Boots- Boots are above ankle height and made of black leather or leather-like material.
    Flat sole with a short heel.
    No buckles or laces.
    Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
    Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.
Badge- One silver and blue J-Sec badge on right chest.
Weapons- E-11, DLT20, DC-15, A280

Heavy
Flight Suit- One piece blue coverall/jumpsuit/flight suit with a front invisible zipper.
    There is a horizontal seam or double-topstitched line that runs across the upper chest, but does not extend around the back.
        On the left bicep there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves.
    The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves.
    The right sleeve has a cargo pocket, about 6" (152mm) wide and 5.75" (146mm) on the bicep.
    The pocket has a 2"(50.8mm) flap.
    (2) large chest pockets and (2) large front pockets below the belt, without any zipper or flaps.
    (2) leg pockets with flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket.
Size may differ - (Usually the width of the front pockets equals the width of the leg pockets).
    There is no compad pocket.
    There are no leg pockets below the knees.
    Weathered to match photo
Neck ring- Should fit loosely on the neck, but not large enough to pass over the head.
   All gunmetal colored with a rounded inner gasket and flat exterior panels
    Front panel consists of 1-A 4 pronged greeblie on its top, 2-2 blue toggle switches, and a small light readout within a square outline. Both on the upper half of the front face. 3-5 speaker holes on the lower half of the face.
    Flanking the front are two rectangular panels each with a rivet in all 4 corners
    Outside those are panels with one red light.
    A hose connects the back of each lit panel with the sides of the front panel.
    There is a small black rectangle at the back of the neck piece.
   To the right of the black panel is a raised panel with 3 black greeblies.
Neck seal- The neck seal is all black and consists of a half face mask and fabric circling the back and shoulders, and coming to a point on the chest.
    Wearing the half mask is optional.
Shoulder Armor- One on each shoulder. The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical.
    Both are painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    Right bell has a white J-Sec decal.
Biceps- Biceps are fully closed.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
    Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Forearms- Forearms are fully closed.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
    Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Hand Plates- These shall be clam shell, or snowtrooper-style hand plates and not the trapezoidal design seen in A New Hope. The hand plates shall be mounted securely over the back of the glove.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo
Gloves-  Black in color, made of either rubber, nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/designs. The fingers are enclosed.
Chest- TK chest armor with molded lip around all edges.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    White J-sec decal on left peck.
    Shoulder strap covered by neck piece.
Back- TK backplate with "O II" design.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
Chest Rig- The tactical vest is black Cordura nylon (Flyye Law Enforcement chest rig is most accurate).
    There are three M4-M16 magazine pouches.
    The ammo slots hold one hanging box from the front belt and one rectangular case is filled in each pouch.
    Pouches contain padded cloth utility pouches with a thin ABS front cover.
Scout belt-The belt is painted reddish brown and sits on top of the TK belt.
    It is attached by two rivets or snaps at the back to the chest rig.
    Hanging from the left side of the belt is a hip box made out of hard material. This is connected to the front belt box by a black web straps.
    The back connects to the lower belt behind the thermal detonator.
Belt- Belt face is made of plastic (TK ammo belt) painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    The soft belt proper is black leather and  2.25" (57mm) to 2.5" (64mm) wide.
    Soft belt is connected to plastic by two snaps or rivets, one on each side.
    Belt corners are cut at right angles.
    The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the front plastic belt (ammo belt) via white straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt.
     Two black "scout" pouches are filled and worn at the back of the belt.
Cod piece- Standard TK cod piece affixed to the bottom of the TK belt
    No abdominal armor
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
Thermal Detonator- (A.K.A. O2 canister) attaches to the center back of the belt. This is an all reddish-brown cylinder. The cylinder is between 2” (50mm) and 2.68"(68mm) in diameter with matching end caps on each end. The control panel pad faces upwards, with the controls/round washer style detail closest to the right end cap.
    The total length should be approximately 7.50" (190.5mm).
    The thermal detonator is attached via metal or metallic-appearing clips approximately 1/2" (12.7mm) to 3/4" (19mm) wide.
Shin Armor- Greaves close in the back. The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
     Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
Extra Shin Armor- Shins have a flat rectangular face.
    The shins have and angled cut from the top and should be no higher than the inner shin armor.
    The bottom of the shin is cut to go over the sides of the boot.
    The shins have 2 elastic straps which hold the shins in place. The fasteners are hidden. (snaps, Velcro, buckles, etc. are acceptable but must not show when worn.)
    The elastic straps are a similar color to the armor.
    They are painted and weathered to match the picture.
Boots- Boots are above ankle height and made of black leather or leather-like material.
    Flat sole with a short heel.
    No buckles or laces.
    Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
    Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.

Officer

Flight Suit- One piece blue coverall/jumpsuit/flight suit with a front invisible zipper.
    There is a horizontal seam or double-topstitched line that runs across the upper chest, but does not extend around the back.
    On the upper chest there are two white panels, one on each side. going up to the shoulder seem, and neither covers the zipper cover.
    On the left bicep there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves.
    The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves.
    The right sleeve has a cargo pocket, about 6" (152mm) wide and 5.75" (146mm) on the bicep.
    The pocket has a 2"(50.8mm) flap.
    (2) large chest pockets and (2) large front pockets below the belt, without any zipper or flaps.
    (2) leg pockets with flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket.
    Size may differ - (Usually the width of the front pockets equals the width of the leg pockets).
    There is no compad pocket.
    There are no leg pockets below the knees.
Neck ring- Should fit loosely on the neck, but not large enough to pass over the head.
   All gunmetal colored with a rounded inner gasket and flat exterior panels
    Front panel consists of 1-A 4 pronged greeblie on its top, 2-2 blue toggle switches, and a small light readout within a square outline. Both on the upper half of the front face. 3-5 speaker holes on the lower half of the face.
    Flanking the front are two rectangular panels each with a rivet in all 4 corners
    Outside those are panels with one red light.
    A hose connects the back of each lit panel with the sides of the front panel.
    There is a small black rectangle at the back of the neck piece.
   To te right of the black panel is a raised panel with 3 black greeblies.
Neck seal- The neck seal is all black and consists of a half face mask and fabric circling the back and shoulders, and coming to a point on the chest.
    Wearing the half mask is optional.
Badge- One silver and blue J-Sec badge on right chest.
    There are 1-3 rank chevrons below the badge (only two shown on in game characters.)
Belt- Belt face is made of plastic (TK ammo belt) painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
    The soft belt proper is black leather and  2.25" (57mm) to 2.5" (64mm) wide.
    Soft belt is connected to plastic by two snaps or rivets, one on each side.
    Belt corners are cut at right angles.
Thermal Detonator- (A.K.A. O2 canister) attaches to the center back of the belt. This is an all reddish-brown cylinder. The cylinder is between 2” (50mm) and 2.68"(68mm) in diameter with matching end caps on each end. The control panel pad faces upwards, with the controls/round washer style detail closest to the right end cap.
    The total length should be approximately 7.50" (190.5mm).
    The thermal detonator is attached via metal or metallic-appearing clips approximately 1/2" (12.7mm) to 3/4" (19mm) wide.
Shin Armor- Greaves close in the back. The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave.
    Overlap construction is recommended.
     Butt join and cover strip construction allowed for kits that do not come with the cover strip molded in to the part.
    Painted reddish brown and weathered to match photo.
Boots- Boots are above ankle height and made of black leather or leather-like material.
    Flat sole with a short heel.
    No buckles or laces.
    Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
    Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.

[Magyarsoldat[TX]]

I cant get any photos of the heavy to post, my apologies.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

I was born in Hartford but lived in Enfield till I was 5...so not long before moving to Florida where I was raised.  I attribute my time in Enfield to my love for LEGO lol.

If you'd like, you can email me all of the reference pics you can to iamdarthraider@gmail.com and I can download and upload them all direct to the servers for you in your original post.