Pilot Bay

I am honored to participate here. I think separating these two points should eliminate any issues. "Original Trilogy TIE Pilot style helmets are not permitted. There should also be no screws visible on the helmet." On the same line, it still appears that the no visible screws is the only reason for it's dis-allowance. I think this would be better: "Original Trilogy TIE Pilot style helmets are not permitted." (This should effectively omit OT TIE helmets for this) "There are no screws visible on the helmet." Words like "Should" can still infer a possibility. I mention this so strongly as I have had people argue that the CRL said, Can, should, may, etc.... As to the suit fabric, this is better that you posted above: "One-piece flight suit is made out of a canvas or similar suitably heavy material fabric (eg. canvas) Let's add black denim or other similar material to that. Otherwise, I think a GML, rightfully so, may see just the word "Canvas" and not vary from that. OR in the least, cause more posting on the GML forums looking for detachment input. I think it if it not mentioned as a potential option, it likely will NOT be viewed as potential by a GML as a viable option. How about this: "One-piece flight suit is made out of a canvas or similar suitably heavy material fabric (eg. canvas, denim, etc...) =And as to the connector "plates" you added this: This may be achieved with a solid plate or a non textured fabric, so long as the visual appearance matches the armor." I think using the word "Fabric" will cause all kinds of different stuff trying to be used. Non-textured leather looks fantastic, and matches most makers plastic. Still appears mostly firm and is still flexible and comfortable, especially for the amount that is needed to achieve the look. I am OK with using the word leather in place of "fabric" so it still looks like what the material "should" be. I think "Fabric" opens it up to too many options, and then following arguments!!! Then perhaps hard plastic for LVL 2 if it is warranted I suppose. What do you think?

Hey, thanks for responding! Full disclosure, I am a maker and a GML. So I see things from both ends here. As makers, my wife and I follow the CRL's very closely when creating every kit we do. Hence my questions above are reflective for me for both reasons. As a GML, I have had people "argue" ( And often rightly so) on how the text is worded compared to what the example shows. I am always trying to advocate updating such text to specifically include OR omit certain things in description to alleviate any potential option to be able to argue one way or the other, either from a GML POV or Applicant. To my OT Helmet question, I felt like it read in the way that if no screws were visible, then OT "could" be acceptable. I was just trying to say to make it absolutely apparent that OT helmets are NOT acceptable, even for basic. With wording that also says, AND no screws can be visible. that seems to break it up more specifically think maybe? Or better yet, break up this text to be on separate lines in the description? With the no screws following the OT helmets are not acceptable on the same line can be inferred they can be acceptable. Just put the No screws can be visible on it's own line, maybe even further down in the description. Maybe I am reading too much into it.... It just reads to my mind that if screws are not visible, that is the only caveat to them not being acceptable. I mention this again since as a GML I have had people ask me that very question for clarification in the past. For the armor side bridges, the first few armor kits I did I used non-textured black leather. It looked good and was more comfortable than a additional piece of plastic to fill that gap. If this would be acceptable, perhaps mentioning that in the CRL would alleviate any questions from GML's in the GML section on the 501st forums. As to the suit material, I would love to know where to get soft canvas!!!!! Still waiting on the stretchy denim swatch, but if there is a place to get decent canvas that is comfortable, I am all in. I just think a lot of GML's will be stuck on the mention of Canvas (And overlooking the comment that says "Or similar material) and be looking for that specifically, despite there being other materials, like black denim for instance, that they may be wary of approving. Thoughts?

OK, catching up on this. 1. Regarding the helmet: Text says "Original Trilogy TIE Pilot style helmets are not permitted. There are no screws visible on the helmet." It is quite easy to make an OT TIE without visible screws. The first 6 Inferno helmets I made back in 2018-2019 were OT TIE helmets with hidden screws. If this is in fact the only reason for NOT allowing OT TIE helmet for LVL 1, it should be spelled out more definitively, IMO.. Just simply say OT TIE helmet are NOT allowed, even for basic. 2. Regarding Armor: CRL Currently states "Chest and back plate meet flush at the sides under the arms. This is done with a third plate that bridges the gap between the front and back armor parts." Can the "Third Plate" in fact be black leather? OR must it be matching black plastic to match the armor? I thik this option shjld be spelled out yes or no. 3. Regarding Suit: While the CRL has pretty much also mentioned canvas, we all know most canvas is pretty heavy and rough and not enjoyable to wear mostly. Honestly, I always felt it looked just as much like denim as it does canvas, at least to me looking at a game model. My wife was trying to source some black denim and found some stretchy type black denim. She is ordering a swatch of it. I will post pics once we have it. Everything else I think has been pretty well covered in this discussion I think.