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Evening, Please see my thoughts below. Comments in Orange New items/descriptions in Blue Version – 3 – Imperial Army Medic Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. Hat, Olive No changes from existing CRL requirements Green Imperial Flight Suit One-piece olive green coverall / jumpsuit / flight suit with a front invisible zipper and mandarin collar. Each shoulder has a patch as noted below. Left chest has a nametape as noted below. 2 large chest pockets. 2 large cargo pockets sit on the outside of each leg from around mid-thigh and not extending past the bottom of the knee, with a rectangular flap covering the top. There are no leg pockets below the knees. Rank bars of any kind are not permitted. Pockets may feature gussets. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Mandarin collar is closed by a chevron shaped strap across the neck. A single snap is present near the chevron point. Snap does not need to be functional. Snap should be olive green in color. Imperial Army Patch No changes from existing CRL requirements Medic Nametape Nametape is full width of pocket. Option One: Size of a standard American Nametape, 5” wide x 1” tall with ¾” lettering (only). Option Two: Size of a standard Canadian Nametape, 6” wide x 1” tall with ¾” lettering and branch symbol. Branch symbol would likely be in-universe medical symbol: Nametape is approximately ¾” above the pocket flap seam. Based on nametape being 1” tall. Nametape says ‘Medic’ in Aurabesh. No specific unit, branch organization, or division is cited, but Sunber calls the character “Medic” so it’s a safe extrapolation. Other options could include: ‘Medical Corps’ (Stormtroopers are often referred to as being part of the Stormtrooper Corps, so a logical extrapolation) ‘Surgical Division’ (used in the SW RPG) ‘Medical’ (simple) ‘MED’ (quick recognition duty Identifier) ‘Army Medic’ (short for Imperial Army Medic) Discussion Point: As nametape is not seen in detail, either Options One or Two are both possible. Etsy has several options at 5” x 1” with Aurabesh lettering, so it may be the easiest for most people to source. To standardize at that size would seem easiest, but there wouldn’t be an option (or space) to add a in-universe medical symbol. Olive Gloves No changes from existing CRL requirements Belt Belt is a nylon military style quick release web belt. Belt is olive green in color. Belt buckle is olive green in color. (moved from Level 2 to Level 1) Discussion Point: Eyelets are not seen in the source material, but I don’t have an issue with Level 1 allowing them if we want (saves costumers getting additional belts). However, I’d suggest for Level 2 they not be allowed. Belt Pouches Belt pouches are olive green in color and should be made of nylon or similar material. At a minimum, 4 small pouches and one medium pouch are required: Four small pouches should be placed in front - Two on each side of the belt buckle starting ~1-2” away from the buckle. These pouches have a curved front flap similar in appearance to a compass pouch or grenade pouch. One medium pouch on left side to the rear. This pouch is slung low, with the top of the pouch wholly below the belt line. While not seen in full, it appears to be rectangular and box-like and have a flap closure about ½ the height of the pouch similar in appearance to a SAW Pouch. Discussion Point: Dropping a SAW pouch that distance would require a MOLLE drop panel or creative solutions. An alternate option would be to use the more commonly available Snow Trooper pouch, which is designed to hang below the belt, in olive green instead. Discussion Point: As other pouches are not seen to be carried, it is inferred that these required pouches would likely contain core medical supplies gear. No symbols are specifically seen, but especially on the medium pouch the flap isn’t seen so it is conceivable. I wouldn’t take issue with someone wanting to put one of the in-universe medical symbols on the pouch(es) to reinforce the concept. Any additional OD green MOLLE style pouches are permitted to fill out the belt, but are not required. Pouches with zippers shall have the zippers covered or concealed either with a matching fabric or tight weave webbing. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Four pouches to the front have olive green snap closures All pouches appear to be full. Boots No changes from existing CRL requirements Discussion Point: Boots are not seen in source material for this version, but without evidence saying otherwise it is safe to surmise that they would be the same boots worn by all other IAT variants. Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use. TK Ammo Belt No changes from existing CRL requirements E-11 Blaster No changes from existing CRL requirements DH-17 Blaster No changes from existing CRL requirements E-11 Holster No changes from existing CRL requirements Medical Equipment Several pieces of medical equipment are seen in the source art, specifically: Crutches Casts Slings Wound dressings Medical support equipment (box carried to support the General’s care) Surgical equipment and support machinery in Aid Tent Discussion Point: Do we want to CRL each and every one of these things, or let people be creative if they want with in-universe medical gear? Or just focus on the one box as a character carries it? Or just skip talking about these additional items and consider them props as opposed to costume elements? Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

@Blackwatch I can't take any credit for the patch; I found it online, apparently from the Star Wars roleplaying game. https://star-wars-roleplaying.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Surgical_Division Not sure if it's considered Canon or not. There are a bunch of different Divisions, each one using the IA background in different colors. Like I mentioned, likely in the comics it's the standard green IA patch. I'm doing the Edouard Groult Medic Trooper myself, sadly not for the 501st but another club/detachment that focuses on those. Wish we could get 501st approval for that one as it is so cool looking. Sure, I can punch up a proposal for an IAT Medic this week and attach it here.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. @Blackwatch We do see medical personnel within the Aid Tent with Rank Tabs, so there is medical-oriented precedence, but I agree that we don't see them on coveralls specifically: I think a Medic (in Aurabesh) nametape would be a cool idea, with the precedence being the Sapper's Aurabesh tab. I was typing too quick - I meant may or may not have hat greeblies. While that below the belt slung pouch could easily be the snowtrooper-style in olive drab, as this CRL utilizes more modern nylon pouches throughout I agree it is likely the same style. Yeah, easy prop that can be greeblied up to heart's content. @Beau Thacker While I would love to see the Imperial Surgical Division patch used (even if we'd have to find someone to produce it), it does look the patch is green in the frames. Maybe the "Medic nametape" could be bacta blue to tie that color in? But as it blends with the jumpsuit perhaps not? Great lore info! I agree that TDs wouldn't be standard issue for IATs, but we see in the ambush scene in issue on pages 34/35 that Sunber uses a mass TD attack on the incoming enemy. A wider shot of his trenchline shown on page 35 second frame shows two IATs (left and right flanks, the right one incidentally armed with an SE-14R interestingly enough) also involved in that battle line so isn't it fair to assume they would also have had TDs? I would infer that in this battle, as casualties mounted, everyone just grabbed whatever gear they could to fight the enemy. The IATs are fighting side by side with TKs, and regulations and TOEs be damned on the frontlines. That's why I would say it could be optional, related to what was available and seen in this specific battle. Just a thought. Looking forward to hearing other's thoughts!

So Variant elements: No suspenders. (defining element) Does not have the two front angled pouches other IATs have on their belt. (defining element) Wears cap, not helmet. Code cylinder may or may not be present. Belt would have at least two smaller pouches per side. in several shots there seems to also be a low slung pouch on the left-side rear. I would assume these would be minimum requirements, with other pouches allowed like the other variants. The ones helping the general have rectangles drawn above the left chest pocket; some sort of identifier, either as a medic or a rank bar? Optional TK Belt and E-11. I have the required items for this variant and can pose for CRL pics if it would help. I'd love to get feedback and see these three things included in the CRL. Thanks for your time and attention!

#3 - New Version - IAT Medic In several frames we see IA personnel without suspenders, making them distinct from the others. I believe they are medics, working off this frame: Sunber directs the medic to see to the wounded. When you look at it, Sunber is not talking to the stormtroopers or IAT behind him. When the stormtrooper in front of him says he's trained in first aid, in the next frame Sunber tells him to help the medic. The only other person in frame is the suspender-less IA. Hence he's the medic. Going back we see suspender-less IAs helping/escorting/supporting the general's movement after he's injured, one of them carrying a piece of medical support gear (it's tubes/cables running to the general's wound covering): Also by the Aid Tent we see this suspender-less IA working with some cables, wearing the same belt pouches seen later: Once combat breaks out, we have clear shots of the suspender-less IAT fighting, the one with the red hair we see identified in the example as the medic (next post).

Hello all, Not sure if I am the member being mentioned asking for CRL additions, but since this is open I'll share a couple ideas I'd like to see included: #1 - Optional Use of Sidearm/Holster In several frames IAT can be seen wearing holsters. They are not vehicle crews nor engineers/sappers as they are drawn like IATs. While specific model is not known, a safe assumption would be the SE-14R as that what Sunber carries so the unit is obviously issued them. It is also the most common sidearm in the Empire. . Cross draw holster Cross draw holster Strong-side holster Strong-side holster Strong-side holster They all seem to be enclosed holsters with a flap over top. I'd assume done in nylon like the rest of their pouches, so something like this or similar: The trick would be to get one sized for a SE-14R. I suppose Sunber's holster could also be permitted, being in the unit's inventory. Either the standard black leather/leather-like one the officers have which looks similar, or his combat uniform drop leg version (which wouldn't be as shown but the design exists and is in the unit's inventory. #2 - Optional Thermal Detonator Not a pouch, worn in the same location as TDs are drawn. I have a third one, but ran out of allowable picture space so it'll be added below.

10-4, thanks for the feedback!

I guess that's my point. The comics don't really show weathering on the belts, likely due to the artist being limited to portray that. It's mostly mud on uniform legs and boots. The CRL show's lightly weathered as you say, and besides that the only mention of weathering is on the boots. So is the answer "like the CRL picture and no more"? I have a complete belt from a retired TK that has seen better days and is likely more weathered than that. Just wondering if that would work or if I'd have to clean it and re-weather.

Afternoon. The CRL says "Weathering of ammo belt is encouraged.", but doesn't say how much or little is encouraged. LOL Just on edges with brown/green/black? Scuff marks all over? Rub it in the dirt? Paint it all Olive Green (to not stand out as much against costume, something I think troops would do) and then scuff it and dirty it? Thoughts?

Morning all. I find it so funny I started this thread April 6th and was completely out of luck, and then this week I asked a designer I met to do up a fresh comms STL for me, and then I hear from @DarthBerry with files, then @pyrochimes in and all of a sudden I have three different options. LOL Feast or famine! I appreciate the support though! I noticed on the CRL that the model that it has a twist lock device to hold the comlink in the holder, and Pyro's link to JawaBrothersCustoms has that. I've reached out to them on cost. @Blackwatch I'm thinking of using and scaling @DarthBerry's Macros to fit in the bino pouch - what did you mean by "will require sanding/smoothing because of the faceting seen on the model"? I know usually all PLA prints require some sanding, but is there something specific you see I'm missing?

Evening folks - I printed at 75% and it's a similar size to other comlinks, but the holder doesn't hold the comlink, just allows it to slip thru. I'm thinking of making the holder slightly smaller so it is tighter.

@Beau Thacker Any word yet, either way?

@Beau Thacker I appreciate the update and I'll keep my fingers crossed! I appreciate you looking into this! I ordered the Sunber Holster from the original CRL maker, so well on my way. SE-14R printed and sanding and fitting ongoing...

@Beau Thacker Thanks - I really appreciate it!