PROPOSED CRL MODIFICATION: General Weir

[RAIDER[COTG]]

General Weir CRL update proposal open for membership discussion.

Update primarily addresses alignment of the Weir text w/ our other Spec Ops scout CRLs (Shadow Scout / Swamptrooper).  Additionally, adds Level 2 requirements to the CRL (making it eligible for our Specialist program).  The bandoleer description, in particular, has been addressed and detailed based on source references to avoid GML confusion when approving the bandoleer.

MEMBERSHIP REVIEW PERIOD WILL END ON 10/20/19.

 

Special Notes:

The armor parts shall be film-accurate or close approximation in gloss, semi-gloss, satin, or matte black and made from one of these types of materials or like materials: Fiberglass, ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene), or HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene).
Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.

Helmet

• Scout style helmet accurate in shape and form.
• Eye lens is red or red mirrored.
• Helmet is painted to match armor.
• Flat or concave elevator bolts.
• Helmet may have three contrasting black vertical lines on center of forehead area or left plain.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Ear Holes are correctly shaped and have no mesh.
• Black 3M Speedglas bolts or replicas are concave and mount the faceplate to the helmet. (Visible bolt head diameter of 22mm).
• Accurate snout detail and aerator with accurate parts, mounted onto a plate and painted a contrasting black to the helmet.
• Accurate three lines on center of forehead area.
• No visible seams on the dome.
• Optional: Black chin cup.

 

Balaclava

• A balaclava is a black head sock/hood that is worn under the helmet and is used primarily to hide any view of the wearer's skin and/or facial hair.

 

Flight Suit

• The undersuit is a one or two-piece black textile suit, such as military flightsuits, motorcycle racing suits, industrial work clothing (Dickies), or similar suit modified appropriately.
• Stand-up collar conceals the neck with an enclosing strap to keep the collar closed.
• Must have a suede or faux suede butt flap attached above the waist hidden by the cummerbund and is rectangle in shape. The flap is slightly narrower than the width of the trooper and stops slightly higher than the bottom edge of the troopers backside.
• Suede or faux suede thigh patches must be present, extending over the flight suit crotch and down the front finishing above the knee armor. The thigh patches must be secured by 2" (50mm) black elastic, sewn in under the front and back of the thigh patch.
• See the Scout Trooper Flight Suit page for detailed images of the patches described below.
• Suit must not have any visible labels, logos or zippers (including built in flight suit pockets). 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Suit is fairly fitted and not baggy.
• Real black suede thigh patches are present.
• Real black suede square/ rectangular butt patch is attached to flight suit at the rear under where cummerbund sits. The size will adjust slightly from scout to scout, but correct scale must be noted, no external visible stitching.
  • Size will differ slightly from scout to scout, but correct scale is maintained.

 

Shoulder Armor

• Black elastic is used to secure the armor around upper arm.
• Shoulder pieces do not have any adornment. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Armor is secured around bicep with a 0.5" (12mm) black elastic strap.
• Bottom corners are rounded.
• Optional: Affix top of shoulder bells to shoulder bridge loops.

 

Upper Arm Armor

• Armor has a recessed area with a red "T-bit" detail attached within.
• Black elastic is used to secure the armor around upper arm. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Accurate "T-bit" detail is mounted to armor.
• T-bit circle detail piece faces forward on each arm.
• Armor is secured around the arm with a 1.5" (40mm) black elastic strap.

 

Forearm Armor

• Black elastic is used to secure the armor around forearm. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Armor is secured around the arm with a 1" (25mm) black elastic strap.

 

Gloves

• Black leather and gauntlet length.
• Glove details include:
  • Black suede or faux suede patches on top of the middle finger, index finger and thumb.
  • Four tightly spaced ribs that span the knuckles.
• No labels/logos, clips, or external straps. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Suede or faux suede padding on fingers and inside of thumb and correct gauntlet stitching.

 

Bandoleer

• Shall be similar in appearance to the CRL model reference.
• Front-facing boxes/greeblies shall be made of hard material such as plastic or wood.  If wood is used it must have the appearance of a hard plastic material.
• Crosses over the chest and falls straight along the sides of the back tank connecting underneath with the left strap crossing over the right.
• The back connection shall be made with Velcro.  No buckle shall be used and Velcro should be hidden.
• Optional: The straps passing over the shoulders may connect to and end at the bottom of the back plate.  See CRL model reference.
• Red 2" (50mm) nylon webbing shall be used for attaching the plastic bandoleer pieces.
• The left bandoleer strap will have 6 boxes, 1 greeblie, and ribs that match the CRL photo (from the shoulder to the waist) as follows:
  • Horizontal ribs, 6 in total, shall be present from the top of the last box over the shoulder.
  • A larger, vertical rectangular box with a raised circular detail centered in the upper portion of the box.
  • A larger, vertical rectangular box with 1 long "I" shaped indents toward the center of the chest and a medium-sized and small-size indents parallel to the 1 long "l" shaped indents.
  • A center greeblie that has 1 wider pill-shaped box and 2 horizontal cylinders.
  • A larger rectangular box with a reversed L-shaped indent.
  • A small rectangular box.
  • A medium rectangular box.
  • A small rectangular box.
  • A small rectangular box with a horizontal "T' detail.  The "T" faces towards the back.
  • Horizontal ribs, 2 in total.
• The right bandoleer strap will have 9 pouches/boxes that match the CRL photo (from the shoulder down to the waist) as follows:
  • Horizontal ribs, 6 in total, shall be present from the top of the last box over the shoulder.
  • A medium rectangular box.
  • A horizontal cylinder.
  • A horizontal pill-shaped box.
  • A rectangular box width-wise with 3 horizontal "I I I" markings in the lower corner (closest to arm) of the pouch/box.
  • A small rectangular box with caps on each end.
  • A large rectangular pouch/box width wise that has a "I" shaped indent that runs the width of the box and wider "I" shaped indent running parallel under the previous indent. Within this wider indent it is marked to have the appearance of buttons.
  • Medium rectangular boxes, 4 in total.
  • Horizontal ribs, 2 in total.
• All boxes and greeblies shall be appropriately spaced.
• Both red nylon webbing straps that come from the shoulders shall be secured to the belt.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• All aspects of the bandoleer shall be weathered and look worn.
• Bandoleer will drape over the cummerbund pouches.
• The straps coming down the back shall consist of 2 strap widths:
  • Straps connecting to the waist leading up to the shoulders shall be 2" (50mm) nylon ribbed webbing.
  • Connected to the 2" (50mm) strap shall be a 1" (25mm) that threads into and through the ribs, boxes, and greeblies.
• Straps will end at the bottom of the backplate and will not wrap around the waist.
• Bandoleers in which ribs, boxes, and greeblies are attached to the top of the nylon strapping will not be accepted.

 

Vest

• Made out of black fabric.
• Sleeves are padded and contain ribbing similar to the front of the cummerbund.
• The sleeves are just slightly longer than the bottom edge of the shoulder armor.
• Vest has a much wider neck opening than the flight suit.
• Secured at the back using 2" (50mm) black hook and loop fastener.
• Vest should be made of same or similar fabric to the cummerbund. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The vest is separate from the flight suit and cummerbund.
• Made using the Vest tutorial.

 

Chest Armor

• There is a recessed rectangular area present over the right breast that may be painted flat black or left unfinished.
• The chest and back armor join together over the shoulder and the gap covered with a loop of black fabric.
• The sides of the chest armor are attached to the back armor with black webbing or elastic. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder bridge covers, covering the join between the front and back of the armor, are made of black fabric.
  • Nylon webbing is inaccurate.
• Side under arm chest/back straps are made from 1.5" (40mm) black webbing or elastic strap.

 

Back Armor

• The back armor has a center tank attached.
• The top of the tank is flat.
• Optional: Detail piece on top of tank is painted black.
  • Top detail piece uses the same greeblies as seen on the screen-used ROTJ Biker Scout armor.
  • Top detail piece is painted matte black.
  • Tank topper is a separate greeblie to the tank itself.
  • Tank topper is secured with a single black colored rivet in the center of the greeblie.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Back and Tank must be two separate parts, no single part back/tank plates will be admissible.
• Detail piece on top of tank is not present.
• Tank stripe decals are not acceptable.
• Blinking lights or LED's on the bullet tank are not acceptable.
   

Cummerbund

• Made from black fabric.
• Closes in back with 2" (50mm) hook and loop fastener.
• Extends from just under the chest armor down to the waist.
• There is no gap between the belt and cummerbund.
• Cummerbund should be made of same or similar fabric to the vest.
• Has a tapered cod section with inverted curve sewn in detail. (Not a chevron)
• Connects between the legs to the back of the cummerbund by a 2" (50mm) black elastic strap.
• Front of cummerbund has 5-6 equal ribs stitched, centered between the two black fabric pouches.
• Ribs are of equal width.
• Ribs are completely visible between the pouches.
• Cummerbund touches the bottom of the chest armor.
• Cummerbund slightly overlaps the belt. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Made from the Cummerbund tutorial page.
• The cummerbund is separate from the flight suit and vest.
• There is no visible external edge stitching on the cummerbund, the cod or pouch flaps.
• Pouches are made from a matte black heavy cotton or canvas like material .
• Bottom edge of the pouch flap must be less than half the overall width of the pouch.
• Pouch size to conform to individual size; should fit in gap between chest armor and belt with minimal overhang.
• Codpiece must conform to shape pictured in the CRL and source art.
• Codpiece must not have excessive bunching around groin area.
• Optional: Codpiece is separate from the cummerbund and attached to either the vest or the flight suit.

 

Belt

• Front raised portion of the belt "buckle" is painted red.
• The front and four "boxes" of the belt are made of hard material.
• Hanging from the sides of the belt are hip boxes (drop boxes) connected to the belt by 1.5" (40mm) textile straps.
• Each drop box strap is threaded behind a side release buckle centered on the strap.
• Attached to the back of the belt is a rectangular thermal detonator box with short black corrugated hose.
• Accurate thermal detonator greeblies are attached to the box.
• The rectangular part of the thermal detonator greeblie, fixed on the left side of the detonator, is the same as used in the rebel Endor trooper rank badge.
• On the right hand side is the same round greeblie as used on the Scout tank topper.
• See the detonator detail page for a close up image of the greeblies.
• The TD box is secured by one single black tie wrap, with side buckle to fasten belt hidden under the box out of sight, or velcro fastening attached with 2" (50mm) black cotton or nylon belt secured each end of the belt with a single black rivet.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The belt is made from a one-piece construction with no visible gaps, and not separated with fabric in between sections, apart from at the back where the TD box sits. Making any joins in a 3 part belt seamless, is highly recommended.
• The straps attached to the drop boxes to the belt are made from 1.5" (40mm) black cotton webbing.
  • Drop boxes hang the correct distance from the belt.
  • Nylon webbing is inaccurate.
• Thermal Detonator end caps to be concave and not flat.
• Optional: Thermal Detonator must have visible black clips attaching it to the web belt.
• Optional: Thermal Detonator tube to be wire wrapped and not ribbed tube.

 

Knee Armor

• Black elastic is used to secure the armor around the leg. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Knee armor has two elastic straps:
  • The first is 1" (25mm)) wide and passes through the bottom of the knee armor.
  • The second is 0.5" (12mm) wide and riveted to the top sides of the knee armor.
• Rivets are black in color.

 

Boots

• Black marine vinyl or leather which is not too glossy in appearance. If leather is used, it should have a similar appearance and sheen to marine vinyl.
• The soles of the boots are black.
• A "dog bone" shaped strap covers the bridge of the foot.
• The boots are secured up the back using 1" (25mm) black hook and loop fastener.
• The calf of the boot rises to just slightly beneath the knee armor.
• Slightly textured vinyl or leather is acceptable. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The boots have slots cut into the heels and sole.
• The boot sole is a single black color with no visible stitching.
• Boots that are constructed too wrinkled (i.e not stretched/fitted correctly prior to gluing) or poor in appearance will be refused.

 

Holster

• Attached to the outside of the right boot with black rivets. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• No straps are permitted.
• Attached with four black colored rivets.
• There is no rank striping visible.
• The blaster pistol fits inside the holster.

 

Optional Accessories
Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.

 

Neck Seal

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to the top of the Adam's apple. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Prohibited for a accurate style costume.
   

Hold-Out Blaster

• Flat black, semi-gloss or slightly weathered.
• The pistol does not have any visible trigger, labels or logos. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Kenner toy blasters, modified Kenner toy blasters or resin recasts of Kenner toy blasters are not acceptable due to the fact they are approximately 10% larger in scale than an accurate style blaster.
• Blasters with triggers are incorrect as no screen props had them.

 

E-11 Blaster

• Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Folding stock.
  • Stock does not need to function.
• A real or replica ammo counter - based off of a Hengstler counter - should be present.
• D-ring mounted on the rear.
• Correct style scope.
• Two power cylinders on the magazine.
• Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters should have a total of 6 t-racks on blaster (leaving the lowest row on the Hengstler side un-covered).
• If using the Hasbro E11 toy blaster, it is modified to have the correct number of T-tracks (6 total), with a lower row of open vent holes on the magazine housing side.
  • This is accomplished by covering the pre-existing rows of holes with T-tracks, then grinding off the lower integrated T-track on the magazine housing side, and drilling a new row of holes in its place.

 

DLT-19 Heavy Blaster Rifle

• Based on a real or replica MG-34 machine gun. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• A DLT-19 is an MG-34 with T-tracks on the barrel, ejection port cover added, and a small disk on left side.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Very nice!

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Going through bandoleer references (again lol)...notice the bottom of the left strap has a box w/ an upside down T and 2 ribs to close it out.  Bottom of the right strap (crossing over and behind left waist) has matching ribs to end the bandoleer as well.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Interesting, I didn't see that before on there.

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

and heres the rub.  The upper panel has a Grey T bit shape, and the lower panel has a red t bit shape. 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

In the pic above, Weir is using a DLT-20a to hit the Sullustan it would appear.  

Would there be any opposition to add the DLT-20a option?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I second adding the DLT-20a.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Reviewing and wrapping up this text one last time before publishing with new pics.  Making the following adjustments:

Helmet:

L2 - Concave elevator bolts.

Shoulder Armor:

0.5" (12mm) strap

Back Armor:

L1 - Tank top greeblie is optional.

L2 - No tank topper is present.

Bandoleer…going to word in the L2 requirement about how the strap on the back should attach (not going all the way around the waist nor clipping in the back).

 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@IcyTrooper @Blackwatch Please read above my edits in the draft in yellow.  They look good?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

5 minutes ago, RAIDER said:

@IcyTrooper @Blackwatch Please read above my edits in the draft in yellow.  They look good?

I just checked it out in comparison with previous discussions and applicable reference images and agree with the changes you put in there.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@IcyTroopermy bad…read the red above.  i think that needs deleting.  straps dont connect to the belt.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

1 hour ago, RAIDER said:

@IcyTroopermy bad…read the red above.  i think that needs deleting.  straps dont connect to the belt.

That's right, I swore it went all the way around down to the belt on the back but it did end. Not sure how I missed that on the pass I did an hour ago. I think it confused me because some of the panels in the art had some discontinuity.

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

i went back through the discussion.  There was a 1 year break in there, and we thought it connected to the belt to hold it up. 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

The updated CRL and images have been loaded into the wiki and will take some time to propagate on the servers so that the end-users see it. We have also added a ton of gallery images to assist costumers and GMLs.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Update has been published and is live.  GMLs are encouraged to give around a 3 month grade period for builders in progress.  Please have them contact us if any issues arise.

Thanks to @thisiskevin for modeling the CRL and working to get that bandoleer spot on with Level 2 requirements shown..and of course to the CRL team for putting the work to publish this one.

General Weir is now eligible for Level 2 Specialist approval here at the detachment as well.