TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 And also we can keep the chest box Got some screenshots for you Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hoses can be deleted too! They are never seen in the game as far as i know 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Change Log 1.1 Face Hair is Medium length with a part on the side swooped to the right and brown in color. Face is clean shaven. Sideburns do not extend past bottom of ear canal. Edited May 14, 2020 by Blackwatch updated with clean shaven face 2 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, Blackwatch said: Change Log 1.1 Face Hair is Medium length with a part on the side swooped to the right and brown in color. Face is clean shaven. Sideburns do not extend past bottom of ear canal. Looks good to me ? Link to comment
RAIDER[COTG] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 hours ago, TX-20113 said: Hoses can be deleted too! They are never seen in the game as far as i know How about the official EA promo images? Just asking. 1 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, Raider said: How about the official EA promo images? Just asking. Good point. Trying to check that ? but, isn't it always Iden on the promo images? ? Link to comment
RAIDER[COTG] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 hours ago, TX-20113 said: Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen ? first of all! The Balaclava can no longer be optional! Its a must have because it's clearly seen when Del wears the Helmet Second: the Droid needs to be deleted. Only Iden uses the Droid. Third: the blasters (E-11 ROTJ and DLT 19-X) can stay as they are ? Fourth: i want to add a Sticky bomb (i don't know the right name of it. Althouth it ia most used bomb in the whole Star Wars Universe it hasn't any name or any place in the visual dictionaries) and a silver standard thermaldetonator to be worn on the right side of the front of the scout style belt it is called a "Detonite Charge" in game. 1 minute ago, TX-20113 said: Good point. Trying to check that ? but, isn't it always Iden on the promo images? ? You would know far better than me lol. Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Raider said: it is called a "Detonite Charge" in game. Thank you ??? Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 very good, moving on to the next section. As a note, all of the finalized sections will be moved to the Del Meeko CRL final text topic, which is separate from this topic. The next section is the Chestbox. Text from Page 1 of this topic: Chest Box - The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo.+ Chest box is painted glossy black- The box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. - There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. - There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. - There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. - The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. - There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. - There is a male silver snap and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. - There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box and are painted silver. - There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. (See reference photo.) - Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered. - The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps are functionalOPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):+ Electrically lit (will post reference under Ref #8) + Scaled to the wearer (consistent with armor size) Change Log 1 Text changes in Green. New text in Orange. Removed text in red strikethrough. Chest Box The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo.Chest box is painted glossy black and matches the sheen of the armor. The box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. There is a male silver snap or radio jack and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box and are painted silver or metallic grey. There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. See reference images. Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered or stained. Silver is not permitted. The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps are may be functionall OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Electrically lit to include the red and white squares, both rocker lamp lights and the red and white indicator lights on top of the box. Scaled to the wearer and consistent with armor size. DISCUSSION: I don't see any lighting in the images of the chestbox rocker dots or red and white lights. I have my own TIE pilot rig lit up and at night in the dark, my box stands out. I took a second review of the images on Page 1 of the topic and see the lights now. The gear greeblie on the bottom of the box, as well as the inset "connector port" for a TIE pilot hose in the upper donut appear dark, perhaps dark metallic in game play mode. In promo art, it looks silver. Which shall we go with ? 2 Link to comment
areilly Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Blackwatch said: I don't see any lighting in the images of the chestbox rocker dots or red and white lights. I have my own TIE pilot rig lit up and at night in the dark, my box stands out. I just dont see that here. The gear greeblie on the bottom of the box, as well as the inset "connector port" for a TIE pilot hose in the upper donut appear dark, perhaps dark metallic in game play mode. In promo art, it looks silver. Which shall we go with ? The promo images have it lit up, I don't think it's lit up in-game, but I'm not sure on that. the metal bits on the box all have the same gray/silver color in game - lighting & shadows would make it look dark 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Change Log 1.1 Text changes in Green. New text in Orange. Removed text in red strikethrough. Chest Box The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo.Chest box is painted glossy black and matches the sheen of the armor. The box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. There is a male silver snap or radio jack and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box and are painted silver or metallic grey. There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. See reference images. The hose port greeblies feature 8 round depressions around a raised disc. The color matches the gear type greeblies. Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered or stained. Silver is not permitted. The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps are may be functional. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):Box is electrically lit to include the red and white squares, both rocker lamp lights and the red and white indicator lights on top of the box. Scaled to the wearer and consistent with armor size. 1 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Blackwatch said: Change Log 1.1 Text changes in Green. New text in Orange. Removed text in red strikethrough. Chest Box The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo.Chest box is painted glossy black and matches the sheen of the armor. The box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. There is a male silver snap or radio jack and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box and are painted silver or metallic grey. There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. See reference images. The hose port greeblies feature 8 round depressions around a raised disc. The color matches the gear type greeblies. Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered or stained. Silver is not permitted. The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps are may be functional. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):Box is electrically lit to include the red and white squares, both rocker lamp lights and the red and white indicator lights on top of the box. Scaled to the wearer and consistent with armor size. Yeah ?? Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Blackwatch said: Change Log 1.2 Text changes in Green. New text in Orange. Removed text in red strikethrough. Chest Box The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo. The chest box is held to the armor with an invisible system which is not visible when the box is removed. Strong magnets are advised. Chest box is painted glossy black and matches the sheen of the armor. The box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. There is a 1/8 inch thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. There is a male silver snap or radio jack and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box and are painted silver or metallic grey. There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. See reference images. The hose port greeblies feature 8 round depressions around a raised disc. The color matches the gear type greeblies. Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered or stained. Silver is not permitted. The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps are may be functional. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):Box is electrically lit to include the red and white squares, both rocker lamp lights and the red and white indicator lights on top of the box. Box is based on the games 3d model and is scaled to the wearer and consistent with armor size. 2 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Blackwatch said: Perfecto! ?? 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Change Log 1.3 (FINAL TEXT) Chest Box The chest box is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo. The chest box is held to the armor with an invisible system which is not visible when the box is removed. Strong magnets are advised. The chest box is painted glossy black and matches the sheen of the armor. The chest box has five detail pieces: 1 Red, 1 White, 1 black, 2 Blue. There is a 1/8" (3.1mm) thick white pinstripe border around the square detail pieces. There are two round indicator lights above the rocker switches, one white, one red respectively. There are three rocker switches below the round indicator lights. The rockers are always gray, white, gray. The gray rockers have red dots or indicator lamps in the bottom outfacing portion. There is a 1/8" (3.1mm) thick white pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box. There is a male silver snap or radio jack and a silver round disc with cone knob greeblie on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe. There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box, and are painted silver or metallic grey. There are two machined aluminum or molded silver greeblies in the hose ports of the box. See reference images and the CRL Gallery view. The hose port greeblies feature 8 round depressions around a raised disc. The color matches the gear type greeblies. Chestbox may be light to moderately weathered or stained. Silver is not permitted. The red and white indicator lights and rocker lamps may be functional. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):Box is electrically lit to include the red and white squares, both rocker lamp lights and the red and white indicator lights on top of the box. Box is based on the games 3d model and is scaled to the wearer and consistent with armor size. 2 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Ok, next up, we need to talk about hoses , which per Staff discussion we will retain. We will also discuss Blasters. Change Log 1 New text in orange. Hoses Hoses are ribbed rubber gas mask hoses 1.25" (31.75mm) in diameter. There are two plastic (polypropylene, pond hose etc.) or rubber gas mask hoses that run from the helmet ports to the chestbox ports. Hose length should be proportional to the wearer. Edited May 17, 2020 by Blackwatch fied text alignment issues 2 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Here is the E11 discussion. The E11 should be ROTJ style. I plan to copy over the ROTJ Stormtrooper text for simplicity, clarity and unity with the rest of the Legion CRL Wikis. E-11 Blaster - Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. + Details from other CRL ? OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + The accurate E-11 version is from ROTj Change LOG 1 copied from ROTJ TK CRL BlasTech E-11 Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Folding stock (does not need to function). No ammo counter is present. D-ring mounted on the rear. Correct style scope. No power cylinders on the magazine housing. Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters have a total of (7) U shaped channels on blaster (all holes on barrel are covered). If using the popular commercially available Stormtrooper blasters, you shall grind off the T-tracks and replace them with U shaped channels and cover the open rows of holes (total of 7 U shaped channels in all). Correct greeblies on the left rear area are present (door catch and two "hammers"). 2 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Hoses and blaster looking good to me ?? 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 After reviewing the image of the E11 posted on page 3, the ROTJ text lines up perfectly with Dels blaster. Hoses are pretty simple, they are just hoses. I want to keep this open until Sunday evening so others may comment, but after that point if there are no objections or chanes to be made I would like to lock down the hoses and E11 as final text, then move on to the DLT. 1 Link to comment
MahXPrime[501st] Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 ALL CLEAR for both hoses & E11, simple yet effective text, I like the line talking about proportions in hoses as I've seen far too much messy and out of proportions hoses I can only approve on ROTJ E11 text harmonization, no specific details to be seen at all ( FOR ONCE ). 2 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Very good. Ill give it until this evening to wait for further commentary. Then I will lock it down. 1 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Hoses Hoses are ribbed rubber gas mask hoses 1.25" (31.75mm) in diameter. There are two plastic (polypropylene, pond hose etc.) or rubber gas mask hoses that run from the helmet ports to the chestbox ports. Hose length should be proportional to the wearer. BlasTech E-11 Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Folding stock (does not need to function). No ammo counter is present. D-ring mounted on the rear. Correct style scope. No power cylinders on the magazine housing. Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters have a total of (7) U shaped channels on blaster (all holes on barrel are covered). If using the popular commercially available Stormtrooper blasters, you shall grind off the T-tracks and replace them with U shaped channels and cover the open rows of holes (total of 7 U shaped channels in all). Correct greeblies on the left rear area are present (door catch and two "hammers"). 1 Link to comment
Blackwatch[CMD-DCA] Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 OK, home stretch here. DLT 19. We discussed not using the seeker droid. Any further input on that? copied from page 1. DLT-19x - A DLT-19x is an MG-34 with T-tracks on the barrel, a scope mounted on top of mag loader, red ring around the scope, ejection port cover added, and a small disk on left sided on a real or replica MG-34 machine gun. - Scratch-built or high end prop replica as shown in reference photo. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Accurate MG-34 replica base with correct size & proportions (casted / 3d printed from original) + The scope has a specific design and is made from 3d model, the red ring matches reference Change log 1 Text changes in Green. New Text in Orange Removals in red strikethrough. A DLT-19x is an MG-34 with T-tracks on the barrel, a scope mounted on top of mag loader, red ring around the scope, ejection port cover added, and a small disk on left sided on a real or replica MG-34 machine gun. Scratchbuilt or high end prop replica as shown in reference photos. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Accurate MG-34 replica base using correct size and proportions, either cast or 3d printed from an original MG-34. The Scope has a specific design made from the games 3d model, and the red ring matches references. 2 Link to comment
TX-20113[501st] Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Blackwatch said: Any further input on that? Only that Del never uses the Droid. It's Iden's 1 Link to comment
MahXPrime[501st] Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 No Droid at all indeed so it's one thing that can be fully removed Concerning the DLT, I suggest adding a line in L2 about the scope : adding reflective lenses (glass / plexi..) to the scope is a GREAT final touch it really is an option but it instantly looks more " real " with lenses rather than grey paint over "solid" 3d print for example 1 Link to comment
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