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There it is! My memory was lost on where we got that from lol. Thanks! And I figured those 2 other suggestions were for standard IATs...we can put that aside for now and just focus on the medic text.

With this text revision drafted, figure I'd chime in a bit since I did alot of that initial IAT work way back when... First, @MbIAT I appreciate all of the panel references to support your suggestions. Will always do our best to err on the side of references (though we haven't always been perfect). With that said, here's my take on some portions of the draft (I'll work in reverse): Medical Accessories: This could get hairy...I wouldn't leave it open for "creativity." That just seems like a Pandora's box. I think at most, maybe the box we see the trooper carrying. The other items are more like things you'd find in a tent and then hand to a wounded trooper...I wouldn't include those in the CRL. Additionally, I wouldn't even include the box unless a builder has one built to be reviewed, photo'd and ready to be added for others to reference. Pouches: I'll defer to @Blackwatch and @Beau Thacker on this. Nametape: For this, Option 1 seems the safest. Looking back at the Sapper, I think we may have written the rocker tag a little too loosely by not specifying what the text is saying...I'd even recommend we revisit that piece as the CRLs are getting transitioned to the new system. I'm actually torn a bit looking in hindsight because I can't recall where we even got the Imperial Army logo as it's not visible in any of the panels that I see (unless I'm overlooking it). So all that to say....if something is going on the nameplate (and I'm not certain we should anymore), the less the better IMO so I'm not a fan of adding logos...and then whatever is added should probably have a specified aurebesh text so costumes are uniform. I think that covers it for the medic variant along w your suggestion to remove suspenders. Now you made 2 other suggestions regarding holster and thermal det...are these not for the medic? My take on those...the holster optional orientation works for me...you supported that well w/ references. The det...I'm good w/ that as well...though the lore says they aren't standard, neither are the white belts being used. In this storyline, the IAT use of gear typically used by TKs (i.e. the belt), works.

Sorry been away on vacation. Sure can try to move forward. I would only say to really work towards keeping the darker tones fairly consistent. In these latest shots can see the 2 shoulder bells together side by side...the one on the left looks has pretty noticeable darker tones than the one on the right (which is the one that you showed more clearly in the wave of pics prior to this one).

Those arms look waaaay better! l actually think w that that look it might be worth knocking down/smoothing out the chest/back and possibly knees/TD/belt (hard to make those out in the new pics). Good work!

Good to see you at it still! I still think what @tipperaryred mentioned early of this being more of a “wash” is the best description of it. I’m not sure it is quite there yet. Look at this shoulder/bicep as an example: Notice how the darker areas are almost more like “shadows” as opposed to texturing and distinct/noticeable differences between the shades…they just kinda flow (that’s where I see airbrushing as a better option). But if that’s not available for you, where Tipp’s suggestion of making a wash that’s more wiped on than sponged could work. Yes, there are occasional strong bits of weathering but those look more like scratches and gouges, not really the camo (which is more like shading IMO).

We would have to look at the grunts or Hark (even Tristan Wren possibly) thoroughly and just make sure that there are no differences in the pieces BUT more than likely there isnt much variation. As far as purchasing files… @beren88 has been refining his files as the source material has been studied and the CRL text written. Possibly connect with him and see what he intends on doing w the files he designs (?).

I purchased my base boot at K-Mart lol. Those stores dont exist anymore though so it wouldnt be available. The main thing you should look for is the sole since you are covering the rest of the boot with with the stretched black marine vinyl. Something as simple and cheap as this could work:

@IcyTrooper Im good with it. Next question…will we just need a pic of the pack for the primary CRL and then a full back pic for the Gallery? I dont think it requires a tabbed Version…agree or no?

@DarthBerry I think this looks much better and at the very least is on the right track. I appreciate you taking the critique and looking for a way to improve upon it. Well done! Let me ping some of the DCA team to see if we can some more feedback before you press on. Thanks!

@DarthBerry Cod looks much better. Regarding the helmet decals, just to be sure you're looking at the correct draft...the finalized text reads this for Level 2: Details are the correct color and placed as shown. I think specifying as black is fine but there isn't any mention of gray...the "placed as shown" would direct to the CRL photos which should have the black regardless to match the reference images. This would leave the boots...I would like to see a side profile of what you're using for the base boot to make sure that's going to work before you get to far into re-doing them please. And then lastly, the DCA team has looked at your build so far and, to be transparent, the camo paint method using a sponge is being discussed. My personal imput...there are parts where the camo looks pretty good...and then other parts where you can tell it was sponged on. When looking at the reference images, I personally feel possibly airbrush would be a better way to match...with some subtle "splotches" (mostly on the chest)...but generally speaking it isn't that "splotchy" imo. I think you are spot on in that this isn't a camo style like the Kashyyk Clone...so you're definitely on the right track. Possibly other DCAs can chime in, but that's my 2 cents fwiw.

@DarthBerry Thank you for the extra (edited) pictures. I can give a more detailed look later this week but at initial glance the main areas I think we will need to see some adjustments on are the boots and the bund (particularly the crotch). Boots, that black vinyl needs to be much tighter…and Im not sure the base boot your using is going to work. I need to double check later the upper parts of the boot vs the text later. Crotch…looks like a “wrap” of sorts covering the old black crotch piece (?). It should be matching fabric as well but the weave on those doesnt appear to be the same. I feel like this is going to need to be redone. The curve stitch detail needs reworking also. And then this isnt as big a deal but it will need fixing…I believe the visor side decal should be black (not grey)…as well as the snout bridge decal…no grey in the references. It is more just the black lines with the camo visible in between. If you are looking to meet level 2 standards, let me know because there would be other adjustments needed for that.

@IcyTrooper Do you need me to give this a review for any adjustments needed vs the text?

How did I miss this thread? Nice to see this one so close!

https://databank.501st.com/databank/File:Tx_shadow_scout_back_greeblie.jpg @Aesmodan if you look at the top panel you can see there is no greeblie. It is flat on top of the tank.

Tank topper…for Specialist Level 2 shouldnt be there at all. If you install it, you will only be able to get Level 1 basic approval via your GML (which is entirely your call as to what you want to do).