New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)

[RAIDER[COTG]]

On 7/1/2020 at 5:38 PM, Raider said:

Next up...the biceps (I will add periods later lol...check my measures plz)...

Biceps

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume
• One on each bicep and are mirror opposites of each other
• The biceps are made up of two parts; inner and outer bicep
  • One seam that faces forward
  • Overlap towards the inner rear of the bicep
• Clip greeblie is present low and overlaps the seam
  • There is a small rectangular recessed section just above the clip
• Two black ovals are present on the outside facing side of the bicep
• Larger vertical recess towards the rear outer section, intersects where the bicep angles down toward the rear
• The rear of the bicep has an angular line that drops about 1" (25mm) to form a rectangular section when viewed from the rear
  • The rectangular sections have approx. 11 recesses on each bicep
  • The angular sections that meet to form the rectangular sections at the back are flat
  • At the bottom of the rear rectangular section is a black horizontal oblong shaped recess
• There are vertical recessed lines in the front of the bicep
  • Recesses start at the small rectangular recessed section above the clip greeblie
  • The recesses on the outer bicep terminate at approx. 33 degree angle.
  • The vertical recesses on the inner bicep are approx. angled at 45-47 degrees
  • There are 45-47 degree recessed lines that run around the inner bicep (the lines are angled at those degrees or there are that many lines total?)
    • terminate at the front seam and bottom of bicep
    • overlap at the inside-back by the rectangular section at the back

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Clip greeblie is the correct bicep greeblie as per diagram
• The recessed section above the clip has two steps
• There are a total of 32 vertical recessed lines at the front that start on the inside of the bicep and end on the outside forming a 'V' shape intersecting at the bicep clip
• There are a total of 25-30 visible diagonal recessed lines that that start at the front seam and continue around the inside of each bicep disappearing behind the overlap on the inner rear

@nanotek Can you clarify the yellow line for me?  Seems to be a repeat of the line above it.

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

On 7/4/2020 at 12:28 PM, Raider said:

@nanotek Can you clarify the yellow line for me?  Seems to be a repeat of the line above it.

45 degree lines, not 45 lines

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Adjustments made to bicep with one possible change needed regarding the yellowed line.  Waiting for confirmation.

Posting the Cuirass/Gorget sections for final editing review.  I'm curious as to how these will be pictured in the CRL (which will affect how we list them).  Any feedback on that?

Cuirass & Gorget (Chest/Back Armor)

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume
• Cuirass is comprised of the chest and back, with a gorget forming the neck opening

Cuirass Back

• The back has an O II (02) shape is made up of recessed II and the O is a recessed circular line divided almost in half by an intersecting horizontal line
  • The bottom part of the circle is recessed, is black and is slightly smaller in appearance than the top half
  • There is a small black vertical oblong recess in the top half to the left side
• The back has two trapezoidal "buckles" at the top back of the shoulders where it connects to the chest shoulder trapezoidal buckle
• The back has a recessed trapezoidal shape at the bottom of the left shoulder buckle that has more than 13 recessed vertical lines
  • The bottom of the this shape is the same length as the top half of the lower trapezoidal section.
  • The angle of the bottom matches the angle at the top of the bottom trapezoid.
  • The recessed/raised lines do not extend all the way to the bottom
  • The inside line of the trapezoid matches the angle of the buckle
• On the back there is a raised trapezoidal section that starts at the base of the back and extends towards the left shoulder. 
  • There is a small recessed rectangle directly about the top of the trapezoid and is black. 
  • The top of the Trapezoid is the same width as the bottom of the recessed trapezoid under the top left shoulder. 
  • The angle of the top of the this trapezoid is parallel to the bottom of the recessed trapezoid at the base of the left buckle. 
  • The raised section gets higher towards the top and arches out slightly from the wearer’s back.

Cuirass Chest

• 3 vertical oblong recesses near the collar on each side of the chest near the center opening
• The chest extends over the shoulder towards the back forming the shoulder straps which have an attached trapezoidal buckle that appears to connect to the trapezoidal buckles on the upper back armor.
• There are recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect a few recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front.
• Raised smooth/flat section at front extends around the under arm of the wearer towards back. Starts as rectangle and tapers to match shoulder/arm hole
  • There are two raised panels on the lower section of the chest, each extends under the arms towards and forms the lowest part of the sides. Each panel has the appearance of a separate piece and there is a recess that runs around the outside edge
  • Left lower panel has one recessed diagonal channel
  • Right lower panel has a small rectangular box/raised area with at least 12 evenly spaced, vertical and slightly angled recessed lines, the bottom of the box/raised area extends slightly outwards from the wearer. There is a clip & buckle greeblie separated by a ratchet strap greeblie in a recessed cavity just above the box (please refer to the diagram)
• There are a number of vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole.
• There are a number of recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section.
• There are a number of vertically diagonal, evenly spaced recessed lines that start approximately halfway under the armhole and extend back to and underlap the Cuirass back. The recessed lines match the diagonal shape of the back armor.
• Both chest sides connect to the lower back armor
• The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top

 

Gorget (Collar) - One piece that goes under the cuirass to form the neckline of the armour (This should be a separate bullet correct?)

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume
• Sits flat around the neckline
• Sits under the cuirass (or chest/back) and fits closely to the Neck Seal and appears to be part of the cuirass
• If there is a seam, it is as unnoticeable discreet (?) as possible and shall be securely closed with no visible overlaps or gap present
• There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armor has the following details:
  • 15-17 raised sections that start and end at the shoulders, one center raised section at the center front that matches the width of the opening of lower front part of the cuirass opening, 7 smaller and evenly spaced raised sections that extend towards the shoulder 
  • Segments 1-5 (from the center section) and 7 are approximately 1" (25mm) wide
  • Segment 6 (from the center)  is approximately 1" (25mm) wide

 

OPTIONAL (Level 2)

• The gorget must be a separate piece with no seam constructed of a flexible rubber like material
• Chest shoulder buckle is a separate piece
• Ratchet strap greeblie has 5 visible teeth
• Small rectangular box on the right chest has 13 recessed vertical lines
• Trapezoidal recess on the back under the left buckle has 15 recessed lines
• There are 8 recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect 6 recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front.
• On the front chest there are 27 vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole.
• There are 12 recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section.
• The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has 12 rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, 5 vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

On 6/28/2020 at 2:05 PM, Raider said:

@nanotek @gmrhodes13 @JoeShoe @Blackwatch @IcyTrooper @rickyboyblue @ukswrath Topic unlocked.  I will be going through each item and adjusting punctuation, bullet formatting, wording adjustments, and drawing any final questions to the text.

I am tagging @ionicdesign and to do a spot check on the CRL as a whole and to critique the CRLs accessibility to GMLs.  We have Level 1 and Level 2 divided but I am still struggling with some portions being difficult reads for GMLs and would like his (Michael's) assistance on that.

YELLOW - Items of question

GREEN - Additions

RED - Removals

And if my color key is off know I am color blind (lol seriously have issues with colors).  I've highlighted all numbers in yellow...though i know you all have the details locked in...I'm not sure it's fully necessary for Level 1 text as I just can't see a GML doing the counts, but counts are not unheard of on CRLs even down to our most popular ANH TK (tube stripes, teeth, ear bumps).  So with that, the highlight to come to one final consensus decision.

Once a section has been cleared, I will edit the top post text.  To begin...the helmet...

Helmet

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume.
• Lenses are black in color. They may be bubble in shape or flat and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes.
• The lens frame extends back underneath the trap and terminates approx. 1cm from the back of the trap.
• The brow extends out from the lens forming a significant overhang.
  • There are two recessed lines that run parallel to and are above the brow.
  • The bottom recess extends above the clip greeblie running parallel to the trap and connects with the recess at the rear of the helmet.
  • The top recess terminates where it intersects with the bottom recess line.
• A "mohawk" section runs along the center from front to back but is not raised.
  • 16 recessed lines run parallel to the "mohawk"-like section from front to back on each side.
  • The mohawk starts from the second brow line and extends toward the back, terminating in the recessed lines at the back.
• The frown is semi-gloss black with the following features:
  • The mouth has one center "tooth" that connects to the snout and is separated by a detail that has a greeblie section with 14 "ribs."
  • The mouth has 4 teeth either side of the center “tooth."
  • There is no hexagonal mesh in the mouth area between the teeth. (Level 2 mentions no mesh as well.  Should this then be a Level 2 requirement or does this negate the Level 2 line?)
  • The area from the bottom of the mouth extending to the tears has hexagonal mesh.
  • The center tooth is the width of the bridge and has 14 small ribs at the top.
• The jawline is angular and has the following details:
  • Flat trapezoidal section that extends 3/4 way down the jawline from the frown.
  • Flat triangular sections, one each side of the trapezoid.
  • 10 recessed lines that extend from the base of the flat triangular section.
• Each tear (area beneath the corners of lens frame) contains the following details:
  • is Angular.
  • Solid matte black.
  • Recessed circle in the bottom most corner.
  • has 3 recessed lines separating the top tear from the bottom section.
• Faceplate is two separate angular pieces that mirror each other with the following details:
  • 14 recessed lines on each.
  • Curved lower section that starts from the tear and curves towards the front of the jaw forming a filleted ledge. The ledge is more pronounced at the tear end smaller towards the frown.
  • Faceplates are separated by a channel that runs vertically along the bridge of the nose between the lens and frown.
• The bridge of the nose has 10 small rectangular ribs from frown to lens frame with one larger one at the top.
• The side of the jawline has.
  • 7 rectangular cut out vents/tube stripe slots are on each side of the helmet. They have the appearance of being black at the base of each slot.
  • 5 recessed lines extend from the front of the jaw and terminate in an angled manner below the trap. There angle of termination is complementary to the black trapezoidal shape.
• Two helmet clip greeblies are present over the traps on each side.
• Directly below the traps is a detail comprised of a vertical alignment of shapes in the following order:
  • a Small raised circular shape.
  • a Recessed B shape.
  • a Small raised circular shape.
• Below the traps toward the back and base of the helmet is a small black trapezoidal stripe.
• There are 5 recessed lines at the back forming a trapezoidal shape. The angle at which the recesses terminate are complementary to the rear black trapezoidal shape.
• There is one slightly wider recess channel that extends all the way around the base of the helmet.
  • The base of the channel is black is about 8mm wide by 8mm deep. (corresponding inch measures)
  • Matches all the angles of the helmet as shown.
• The bottom of the helmet has a black ledge that runs the perimeter of the helmet that extends back into the interior.
  • Black ledge is approx. 3/4" to 1" wide. (mm measures too please)
  • Matches the angles of the helmet, most notable is the jawline.

 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are bubble-like or bulbous in shape.
• Lens frame has 4 recessed notches near the top of the tear.
• The brow has the following details:
  • There is a cutout section under the brow.
  • There is a raised section underneath the brow that has a pattern comprised of 62 recessed pill shapes.
• The teeth are are metallic black or a very dark gray.
• Faceplate pieces are visibly separate pieces, 4 slots under each faceplate for covering the teeth.
• The tube vents are a solid backing and painted black. No mesh or cloth is present.
• The helmet clip greeblies are the correct clips (refer clip greeblies diagram).

Should be moved to L2, it is a separate requirement about hexagonal mesh not appearing between the teeth. The FOTK from TLJ has mesh between the teeth and is a L1 requirement. I'm not sure how you would see something like that from a generic application. 

I am starting to think however that this is not a generic costume, and should be submitted differently for approval. You won't be able to see all the different sections of the armour with standard front, sides and back shots. Even with the L1 the way it is

[RAIDER[COTG]]

1 hour ago, nanotek said:

Should be moved to L2, it is a separate requirement about hexagonal mesh not appearing between the teeth. The FOTK from TLJ has mesh between the teeth and is a L1 requirement. I'm not sure how you would see something like that from a generic application. 

I am starting to think however that this is not a generic costume, and should be submitted differently for approval. You won't be able to see all the different sections of the armour with standard front, sides and back shots. Even with the L1 the way it is

@nanotek It may be a case of the CRL needing a revisit once its gone through some GML reviews and we get some feedback on what may need to be moved to L2.  I dont think changing the submission process is an option for us really...but to verify...

@ionicdesign @Michael Ren This suggestion above would not be do-able within current Legion approval guidelines correct?

 

 

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

4 hours ago, Raider said:

Adjustments made to bicep with one possible change needed regarding the yellowed line.  Waiting for confirmation.

Posting the Cuirass/Gorget sections for final editing review.  I'm curious as to how these will be pictured in the CRL (which will affect how we list them).  Any feedback on that?

Cuirass & Gorget (Chest/Back Armor)

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume
• Cuirass is comprised of the chest and back, with a gorget forming the neck opening

Cuirass Back

• The back has an O II (02) shape is made up of recessed II and the O is a recessed circular line divided almost in half by an intersecting horizontal line
  • The bottom part of the circle is recessed, is black and is slightly smaller in appearance than the top half
  • There is a small black vertical oblong recess in the top half to the left side
• The back has two trapezoidal "buckles" at the top back of the shoulders where it connects to the chest shoulder trapezoidal buckle
• The back has a recessed trapezoidal shape at the bottom of the left shoulder buckle that has more than 13 recessed vertical lines
  • The bottom of the this shape is the same length as the top half of the lower trapezoidal section.
  • The angle of the bottom matches the angle at the top of the bottom trapezoid.
  • The recessed/raised lines do not extend all the way to the bottom
  • The inside line of the trapezoid matches the angle of the buckle
• On the back there is a raised trapezoidal section that starts at the base of the back and extends towards the left shoulder. 
  • There is a small recessed rectangle directly about the top of the trapezoid and is black. 
  • The top of the Trapezoid is the same width as the bottom of the recessed trapezoid under the top left shoulder. 
  • The angle of the top of the this trapezoid is parallel to the bottom of the recessed trapezoid at the base of the left buckle. 
  • The raised section gets higher towards the top and arches out slightly from the wearer’s back.

Cuirass Chest

• 3 vertical oblong recesses near the collar on each side of the chest near the center opening
• The chest extends over the shoulder towards the back forming the shoulder straps which have an attached trapezoidal buckle that appears to connect to the trapezoidal buckles on the upper back armor.
• There are recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect a few recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front.
• Raised smooth/flat section at front extends around the under arm of the wearer towards back. Starts as rectangle and tapers to match shoulder/arm hole
  • There are two raised panels on the lower section of the chest, each extends under the arms towards and forms the lowest part of the sides. Each panel has the appearance of a separate piece and there is a recess that runs around the outside edge
  • Left lower panel has one recessed diagonal channel
  • Right lower panel has a small rectangular box/raised area with at least 12 evenly spaced, vertical and slightly angled recessed lines, the bottom of the box/raised area extends slightly outwards from the wearer. There is a clip & buckle greeblie separated by a ratchet strap greeblie in a recessed cavity just above the box (please refer to the diagram)
• There are a number of vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole.
• There are a number of recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section.
• There are a number of vertically diagonal, evenly spaced recessed lines that start approximately halfway under the armhole and extend back to and underlap the Cuirass back. The recessed lines match the diagonal shape of the back armor.
• Both chest sides connect to the lower back armor
• The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top

 

Gorget (Collar) - One piece that goes under the cuirass to form the neckline of the armour (This should be a separate bullet correct?)

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume
• Sits flat around the neckline
• Sits under the cuirass (or chest/back) and fits closely to the Neck Seal and appears to be part of the cuirass
• If there is a seam, it is as unnoticeable discreet (?) as possible and shall be securely closed with no visible overlaps or gap present
• There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armor has the following details:
  • 15-17 raised sections that start and end at the shoulders, one center raised section at the center front that matches the width of the opening of lower front part of the cuirass opening, 7 smaller and evenly spaced raised sections that extend towards the shoulder 
  • Segments 1-5 (from the center section) and 7 are approximately 1" (25mm) wide
  • Segment 6 (from the center)  is approximately 1" (25mm) wide

 

OPTIONAL (Level 2)

• The gorget must be a separate piece with no seam constructed of a flexible rubber like material
• Chest shoulder buckle is a separate piece
• Ratchet strap greeblie has 5 visible teeth
• Small rectangular box on the right chest has 13 recessed vertical lines
• Trapezoidal recess on the back under the left buckle has 15 recessed lines
• There are 8 recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect 6 recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front.
• On the front chest there are 27 vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole.
• There are 12 recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section.
• The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has 12 rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, 5 vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top

Sure thing

[JoeShoe[TX]]

Quote

Segment 6 (from the center)  is approximately 1" (25mm) wide

Segment 6 are not the same measurements as the remainder of the segments on the gorget.
I believe my initial draft had them at 2", but i could be wrong about that... can we get a sanity check on that measurement please?  

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

16 hours ago, JoeShoe said:

Segment 6 are not the same measurements as the remainder of the segments on the gorget.
I believe my initial draft had them at 2", but i could be wrong about that... can we get a sanity check on that measurement please?  

Good pickup, no sanity check required. Text updated. 

[ionicdesign[LMO]]

On 7/5/2020 at 5:02 PM, Raider said:

@nanotek It may be a case of the CRL needing a revisit once its gone through some GML reviews and we get some feedback on what may need to be moved to L2.  I dont think changing the submission process is an option for us really...but to verify...

@ionicdesign @Michael Ren This suggestion above would not be do-able within current Legion approval guidelines correct?

I'm not sure I follow and want to be sure I understand. What is it that cannot be done within Legion Guidelines?

[RAIDER[COTG]]

25 minutes ago, ionicdesign said:

I'm not sure I follow and want to be sure I understand. What is it that cannot be done within Legion Guidelines?

Requiring more than the standard front/back submission pics

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

On 7/4/2020 at 12:28 PM, Raider said:

@nanotek Can you clarify the yellow line for me?  Seems to be a repeat of the line above it.

I have fixed this area up

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Moving on to next section for final review.  In this particular section, I do not see anything glaring...

Abdomen Section

• Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume.
• The abdomen section must wrap around the wearer's body without a visible seam, the opening is concealed by the Thermal Detonator Plate
• The top of the abdomen is covered by the Cuirass
• The abdomen has 8 rectangular boxes that have chamfered edges, sit flush on the abdomen and matches the order and placement shown
  • The largest horizontal box has a small black recessed square to on the lower left to the wearer
  • The smaller boxes are identical in size to each other
  • The 2nd box from the wearer's right has diagonal recessed lines
• The abdomen has 4 vertical raised 'cover strips' along the front half of the abdomen, they start from the belt and disappear under the cuirass
  • the two right strips are smaller
  • the two left strips are larger,  with a recessed channel just slightly off center to the right
• In the first channel between the two right strips are diagonal recessed lines that start from the belt and disappear under the cuirass.
  • Recessed lines run from the inside edge of the outermost 'strips' to a point just above the 4th abdomen box from the right
• There is a black recessed rectangle above the 4th abdomen box from the left, on the plain section of the armor,
• Diagonal recessed lines extend downwards from the first right-most cover strip, appear to underlap the 2nd coverstrip and terminate over the 4th box from the wearer's right.
• Diagonal recessed lines extend downwards from the left-most cover strip, appear to underlap the large cover strip (front left) and terminate over the same 4th box from the wearer's right.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• There is a visible ledge that holds the belt in place just below the abdomen boxes, it extends to within an inch from the edge of the Thermal Detonator Mounting Plate
• There are 5 tabs below this ledge to support the belt. Widest one is at the front and aligns with Cod, with two smaller ones each side of the large one
• The 2nd box from the wearer's right has 16 diagonal, recessed lines
• The termination of the diagonal lines forms a small trapezoidal shape above the 4th box from the wearer's right.
• All the boxes are separate and not molded to the abdomen
• 19 recessed diagonal lines between the 3rd and 4th boxes
• 21 recessed diagonal lines between the 4th box and the cover strip covered by the largest box

[TX-20113[501st]]

38 minutes ago, Raider said:

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Made of red gloss rubber/Latex/silicon could be also a L2 option ? or L3? 

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

6 hours ago, TX-20113 said:

Made of red gloss rubber/Latex/silicon could be also a L2 option ? or L3? 

If we do include it, it would be optional for level 2, not a mandatory level 2 requirement

[TX-20113[501st]]

56 minutes ago, nanotek said:

If we do include it, it would be optional for level 2, not a mandatory level 2 requirement

That's also good ? 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

3 hours ago, nanotek said:

If we do include it, it would be optional for level 2, not a mandatory level 2 requirement

Should I add that then?  In the CRL intro, rubber-like material isn't included in the list though I know that a similar material is used on the gorget as well.

[gmrhodes13[501st]]

Looks good, I guess it could be added as an optional material.

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

15 hours ago, Raider said:

Should I add that then?  In the CRL intro, rubber-like material isn't included in the list though I know that a similar material is used on the gorget as well.

The whole costume is Polyurethane (flexible rubber) with a shore strength of hard. Maybe around the Shore A70 or Shore D20-30. 

[JoeShoe[TX]]

12 hours ago, nanotek said:

The whole costume is Polyurethane (flexible rubber) with a shore strength of hard. Maybe around the Shore A70 or Shore D20-30. 

Its certainly worth mentioning at the very least.  Ill be impressed if anyone goes ahead and casts a polyurethane suit that'll degrade within a few months for the 501st, but all the more power to them if they manage it.  I suppose we can clarify that it is acceptable to mix materials so long as the overall appearance/texture of the armor is consistent throughout the entire build.  

[ionicdesign[LMO]]

On 7/7/2020 at 1:31 PM, Raider said:

Requiring more than the standard front/back submission pics

Hard to mandate based on the typical method. It would be a fine idea to include more views in the CRLs with the Gallery for clarity and whatnot though for sure.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

6 hours ago, ionicdesign said:

Hard to mandate based on the typical method. It would be a fine idea to include more views in the CRLs with the Gallery for clarity and whatnot though for sure.

and that we shall do then. between @nanotek and @gmrhodes13 there should be sufficient gallery shots to assist.  thx

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Check my measure conversions mates...

 

Gloves and Hand-Plates

• Gloves are all black consisting of the following details
  • An elastic wrist cuff that extends underneath the under-suit
  • The back of the glove is black ribbed Nylon-spandex-like Ottoman material that extends around the thumb
  • Black leather or leather like palm, thumb and forefinger
• Hand Armor are slightly curved, trapezoidal in shape and are mounted securely over the back of the glove
  • Finished in a high-gloss, deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume 
  • A number of recessed lines running parallel to the angle of the front-outer edge of the plate
  • A oval recessed detail is aligned with the index finger of each glove
    • Oval recess is matte black inside
    • The face the recessed oval sits in is chamfered outwards slightly from the top to the underneath

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Gloves
  • 5 padded & double stitched sections on the palm (See gallery image)
  • A cutout section on the palm near the thumb (See gallery image)
  • Two cutout sections in the leather on the index finger (See gallery image)
• Hand armour
  • 15 recessed lines, 1/25" (1mm) wide at 4/25" (4mm) intervals, following the angle (45 degrees) from the front-outer edge of the plate
  • The inside edge closest to the thumb is thicker than the outer edge
  • Underside of the hand armor is curved and hugs the glove on the back of the hand

[gmrhodes13[501st]]

An oval recessed detail is aligned with the index finger of each glove

Oval recess is matte or satin black inside  

measurements are correct

looks good

[RAIDER[COTG]]

6 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said:

An oval recessed detail is aligned with the index finger of each glove

Oval recess is matte or satin black inside  

measurements are correct

looks good

Adjustments made.  I also realized that we typically do decimals for US measures, so I've gone back and adjusted those (please go back and check me from helmet down).

Trying to get this completed and published by month's end, so on to the next...lots of measurements here so please double check my conversions.

Belt and Boxes

• All parts finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the color of the entire costume
• The Belt sits flush to the bottom of the belt-ledge on the abdomen
  • Is approximately 2" (50mm) wide and 0.3" (8-10mm) thick.
  • Has no visible openings or fasteners
  • Has the appearance of being flexible
• 6 belt boxes are attached securely to the belt
  • Attached to the front are 2 evenly sized rectangular, horizontal boxes with the appearance of lids, matching the width of the belt. The outer edges of the box are filleted.
  • Front-Right drop box is rectangular, mounted just above the top of the belt and drops down vertically, it is a single box in appearance that has no lid or visible seams. The edges of the box are sharp. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is approximately 0.3" (8-10mm) thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt)
  • Front-Left drop box is rectangular, mounted just above the belt and drops vertically down and has the appearance of a lid with a chamfered horizontal edge about 3/4 down from the top. The edges of the box are sharp. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is approximately 0.3" (8-10mm) thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt)
  • 2 drop boxes with diagonal recess, towards the side rear, near kidneys on each side, mounted slightly above the belt, has a pronounced appearance of a lid and is deeper in volume than the other boxes. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is approximately 3/8" (8-10mm) thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt)
    • There is a diagonal channel on the lid that starts near the top front of the box and extends downwards to the rear.
    • The channel extends around to the sides of the lid.
    • The outermost face of the lid has slightly filleted edges, the rest are sharp.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Belt is made of flexible PU or rubber type material
• Belt ends must connect behind the front boxes
• Sits under the belt ledge of the abdomen (same requirement in Level 1?)
• Belt is approximately 50mm wide and between 8 to 10mm thick  (same requirement in L1...or should this be removed from L1 and kept here at lL2)
• The dimensions of the two front boxes are as follows:
  • Approximately 4" (100mm) wide by 2" (50mm) high
  • Outer facing part is about 0.3" (8mm) thick, inner part is curved to match the abdomen
  • The boxes form a slight inverted 'V' shape when viewed by wearer
• The dimension of the front right box
  • Box is flat with sharp edges and is about  0.6" (14-15mm) thick
  • Is about 3.15" (80mm) wide
  • Is  about 3.75" (95mm) high
• The dimensions of the front-left Box
  • Inner box part attached to belt is 0.4" (10mm) thick
  • Outer lid part is 0.3" (8mm) thicket the top and 0.15" (4mm) thick at bottom below chamfered edge
  • Total width of the box is about 3.15" (80mm) wide
  • Total height of the box is about 4" (100mm)
  • The lid has a 45 degree chamfered edge that turns inwards about 2.5" (64mm) down from the top or about 22mm from the bottom
• The dimensions of the side/kidney boxes
  • The total box width is about 3" (75mm) wide
  • The total box height is about 3.75" (95mm)
  • The box lid has a diagonal channel that is about a 0.15" (4mm) wide, starts 1" (25mm) from top-front to 1" (25mm) up from bottom-back and extends around the sides of the lid
  • 0.25" (6mm) wide channel which is about 0.3" (8mm) in from front, running around the perimeter of the box forming the lid
  • Total depth of the box is about 1" (25mm)

[gmrhodes13[501st]]

2 hours ago, Raider said:

Adjustments made.  I also realized that we typically do decimals for US measures, so I've gone back and adjusted those (please go back and check me from helmet down).

Now you've got me, I don't work in inch decimals only fractions, someone else will have to check