CRL Update Discussion - Purge Trooper Phase I: Electrostaff Specialist

[TK 21814[TX]]

What’s next team?🤔

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I believe that the Hand Plates will be next, but should be easy:

Hand Plates

• Realistic style hand plates.
• Hand plates are painted satin black.
• Hand plates have a top curving ridge that come to a point over the index or middle finger just past the main knuckle of the hand.

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

On 8/9/2023 at 2:52 AM, IcyTrooper said:

I believe that the Hand Plates will be next, but should be easy:

Hand Plates

• Realistic style hand plates.
• Hand plates are painted satin black.
• Hand plates have a top curving ridge that come to a point over the index or middle finger just past the main knuckle of the hand.

Agreed, nice and simple there - no changes needed to my eye. Cheers Ryan!

[TK 21814[TX]]

I agree as well. 👍

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Onto the Chest Armor text!

Chest Armor

• Realistic style Chest Armor.
• Armor is painted matte or satin black.
• Two detail slots on the lower outside edge of the right pectoral area.
• Chest and back armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

Chest Armor

• Realistic style Chest Armor.
• Armor is painted matte or satin black.
• Two detail slots on the lower outside edge of the right pectoral area.  Would "pill shaped recesses" work?
• Chest and back armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.  Do we have any references for the armour without the pauldron being worn?
• Is it worth mentioning the bevelled edges - both at the bottom of the armour and where the chest plate slopes down to the abdominal plate?

[TK 21814[TX]]

I recommend loosing the "matte" for paint.

Pill shaped accurately describes both the shape and size of the slots.

The chest bevel should be mentioned so folks don't cut it out, but should also be part of the understanding of "realistic style" chest armor

Below are some captures of the shoulder straps. They merge with the chest and back plates, but do look like they utilize areas specifically made for strapping inserts in the chest plate. The straps look to just slip under the backplate. I'll leave it with the team on how to better define this.

Here's what's visible on the Electrostaff Variant

The ElectroBaton Trooper who wears the same base armor components...

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I totally meant to put "satin" only for it, I copied and pasted at work when I was doing another task, doh! I revised according to the discussion but also allowed for the ability to attach behind for L1 as to me the appearance of either looks right. We could maybe drive that it must be slotted through for L2?

Chest Armor

• Realistic style Chest Armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Two pill shaped recesses on the lower outside edge of the right pectoral area.
• Chest and back armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

[TK 21814[TX]]

Details read well. I’ll leave it with the team for L1/L2 delineation. 

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

On 8/27/2023 at 1:41 AM, IcyTrooper said:

Chest Armor

• Realistic style Chest Armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Two pill shaped recesses on the lower outside edge of the right pectoral area.
• Chest and back armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.
• Bottom edges should be bevelled, as should be the lower edge of the raised chest section.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

I just added in the bit about the bevelled edges, as that seems to be a very distinctive feature:

Otherwise I think that's spot on.  More than happy to proceed!

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I do agree with that assessment! I'm going to tweak it a little bit more to make it a shall/will be rather than a should, so that someone doesn't take it as optional  

Chest Armor

• Realistic style Chest Armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Two pill shaped recesses on the lower outside edge of the right pectoral area.
• Chest and back armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.
• Bottom edges will be beveled, as should be the lower edge of the raised chest section.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

[TK 21814[TX]]

Looks good to me. 

[TK 21814[TX]]

What’s next team? 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

On 10/4/2023 at 9:37 AM, TK 21814 said:

What’s next team? 

Thanks for the nudge! Life has been a kick in the nuts lately, so I'm sorry for that. Let me push it!

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Onto the Back Armor now:

The purple text that was added was to be consistent with the changes we made for the Chest Armor. This will allow for L2 to have it slotted into the armor.

Back Armor

• Realistic style back armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Back has a detail plate with four circles on top, two elongated areas on the lower left, and vents on the lower right.
• Back and chest armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.

 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

On 10/16/2023 at 3:20 AM, IcyTrooper said:

Onto the Back Armor now:

The purple text that was added was to be consistent with the changes we made for the Chest Armor. This will allow for L2 to have it slotted into the armor.

Back Armor

• Realistic style back armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Back has a detail plate with four circles on top, two elongated areas on the lower left, and vents on the lower right.
• Back and chest armor match together at the sides with no open gap.
  • A seam line is present.
• Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.

 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

Thanks a million Ryan, and my own apologies for being AWOL.  Going to set aside a few hours later this week to dig in on this and a couple of other WIPs!

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Onto the Abdomen Armor:

Abdomen Armor

• Realistic style Abdomen Armor.
• Armor is painted stain black.
• Eight ¼" (6.35mm) diameter holes, with four holes inside each indented channel of the abdomen.
• Abdomen section wraps around the wearer’s body and is sealed at sides or at the back.
• Abdomen is completely contained under the chest and back armor.
• Abdomen aligns with the codpiece with the seam line hidden by the belt.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.
• Seam line along the sides or back has no gap.

I don't think there is anything else on this one, but I added the metric measurements into it with the purple text. However, I'm trying to remember if we were going to make a blanket statement at the beginning about the weather and then notate parts that differ from that, or if we were going to identify it with each part?

[TK 21814[TX]]

An all encompassing weathering statement covers all the hard armour parts, but if builders are focusing on the individual parts during their build, they might miss the statement. As each piece has its own list of requirements in the CRL, I believe paint & weathering should be mentioned for each piece. Repetitive, but clear.

 

Ab armor above looks good. 👍

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

Yep, all looks good there.

I'd also tend to agree with putting weathering instructions in each section.  While all the weathering looks the same wherever it occurs, it features in some parts much more than on others.  It is also quite localised to specific areas at times, eg. at the top of the helmet.  It might be worth even sticking some of those points into level 2 requirements.

[TK 21814[TX]]

Shall we move on to the next piece? Cod?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Here is the Cod Armor:

Cod Armor

• Realistic style cod armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Cod and posterior armor connect at the hips.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

19 hours ago, IcyTrooper said:

Here is the Cod Armor:

Cod Armor

• Realistic style cod armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Cod and posterior armor connect at the hips.
• Recessed line design at lower part of the front armor.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.

LVL2

• Indented battle damage visible to the left side of where the kama buckle attaches.

A few possible tweaks above (in green)?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

@tipperaryred ooooh that is a good spot! I missed that one! I like it.

 

Cod Armor

• Realistic style cod armor.
• Armor is painted satin black.
• Cod and posterior armor connect at the hips.
• Recessed line design at lower part of the front armor.
• Armor has little to no weathering. Any weathering present consists of grey tones.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Indented battle damage visible to the left side of where the Kama buckle attaches that matches the reference photos.

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

Looks good to me!

[TK 21814[TX]]

Agreed. 👍