Imperial Super Commando (Rebels - Animated) CRL Discussion

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized).  We'll get Gar Saxon (Rebels) finished first, then address this list by copying and pasting over the finished CRL and then seeing where it differs.

EDIT - 10 May 2025 - Gar Saxon CRL is substantially complete and we are now only waiting on the first trooper to complete their build and submit photos.  In the meantime, I shall copy and paste the finalised Saxon text below.  We can then tackle each line at a time to see where the grunt ISC differs.  As always, green text is new, orange text is changed, red text is removed.

• Helmet
• Flight Suit
• Chest Armor and Shoulder Pauldrons
• Shoulder Straps
• Abdominal Armor
• Jet Pack
• Gauntlets
• Gloves
• Hand Plates
• Belt
• Codpiece
• Thigh Armor
• Knee Armor and Shin Armor
• Boots
• Imperial Super Commando Blaster Carbine

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Description: Imperial Super Commando
Prefix: TX
Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment
Context: Star Wars Rebels

Mandalorian warriors loyal to the Empire, Imperial Super Commandos were deadly and efficient enforcers. Led by Gar Saxon, the Imperial Super Commandos’ armor was a distinctive and streamlined white, and their masterful combat abilities were eclipsed only by their ruthlessness. Under orders of the Empire, they destroyed the Protectors of Concord Dawn with no mercy, and sought to do the same to their missing leader Fenn Rau and any rebel opposition.

Special Notes:

• The armor parts are a white or off-white, or as specified in each part description, and made from one of these (or similar) types of materials:
  • Fiberglass
  • ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)
  • HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene)
  • PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing)
  • Polyurethane Rubber
• 3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed.
• Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.
• Where this CRL refers to a "detail indent", these details may present as either a recessed detail sculpted into the parts and then painted black, or can simply be painted onto a flat surface in black to create the same visual effect.

Helmet

• Imperial Mandalorian Super Commando style helmet, matching visual references from Star Wars Rebel animated series.
• Helmet should be painted and weathered to match references. Weathering/chipping of the red paint should match the light grey paint used elsewhere on the helmet.
• Helmet dome and face plate to be painted red as per references.
• Rear plate, raised rear panel detailing, the upper cheek plates, left ear plate and teeth must be painted light grey as per references.
• Lower cheek plates, raised rear panel, must be painted white (or a lighter shade of grey), as per references. Additional detailing on rear plate must be painted white.
• Ear caps and antennae may be painted light grey or a weathered white.
• All recessed panel lines are black or dark grey.
• There is an inverted white outlined triangle in the center of the forehead. This should be painted.  A weathered decal may be acceptable if achieving the look of having been painted.
• Both visor pieces are black, and obscure the wearer's face. The lower visor tapers in slightly to its narrowest point at the bottom.
• Left ear cap is oval, with a raised circular detail at the top, and a slightly tapered antenna with a circular profile.
• Right ear cap is angled at the top, with a narrower half oval at the base. There is an angled recessed panel line in the bottom right corner of the cap. The cap has a raised circular detail at the top, and two antennae. The rear antenna matches that on the left side, while the front antenna is significantly taller.
• Twin recessed panel lines (1 & 2) run around the upper visor, angle up over the ear pieces, and join together in horizontal lines across the back of the helmet. A third panel line (3) runs parallel and just above the upper of these two lines (2), joined to this same upper panel line at both ends, and running horizontally across the central portion of the rear of the helmet. The distance between 2 and 3 is approximately half the distance between lines 1 and 2 at the rear of the helmet.
• Additional panel lines vertically bisect each ear plate, and run around their edges.
• Rear bottom lip of the helmet has a raised, curved rim, running between the rear edges of each ear plate.
• Back plate has a raised rectangular panel with details to match references. These are long vertical oblongs on both sides, a circle in the lower center, and a double striped rectangle within another rectangle in the upper center. Details are outlined by recessed panel lines.
• The back plate is light grey, but has white detailing painted on either side of the raised rectangular panel.
• There are six teeth, three on each side of the lower visor, with the recesses painted black or dark grey.

Flight Suit

• Must be a two-piece garment, and must be properly fitted and shaped to the wearer.  If going with British military style pullover, material would commonly be acrylic.
• Must not have any visible pockets, pouches or zippers.
• The upper body part of the flight suit is maroon-colored, in a heavily ribbed style similar to British military pullovers. The neck area of the flight suit goes halfway up the neck of the wearer to conceal skin when the helmet is worn.
• On each shoulder of the flight suit there is a white Imperial Cog emblem on a black background.
  • The cog is 3” (76.2mm) or 3.5” (88.9mm) diameter and 1” (25.4mm) from the shoulder seam.
  • The cog may be embroidered or vinyl.
• The lower body part of the flight suit is white or light grey.  It should appear slightly darker than the white armor.  The lower part may be a separate trouser garment, or part of a one piece flight suit.  If a one piece jump suit, the upper body jumper should be worn over the garment so as to obscure any view of the flight suit underneath.
• The lower body part of the flight suit has the following seams:
  • On the outside of each leg there is a seam which runs the entire length of the suit showing from the top of the shins up under the belt.
  • On the front just above the top of the knee armor which wraps around to the back of the flight suit and appears on the back.
  • On the back from the knee seam there is a seam that runs up the back of each thigh and then curves to the outside of the back under the belt. There is a horizontal seam that runs across the butt connecting both of these seams running up the back of each thigh.
  • On the back there is central seam which runs from under the belt to the crotch of the wearer.

Chest Armor and Shoulder Pauldrons

• Armor is segmented with an Upper Chest Armor overlapping the Lower Chest Armor. These may be permanently fixed together, or fitted separately so long as they as attached firmly together when worn.
• The Upper Chest Armor also overlaps the Shoulder Pauldrons, which likewise can be permanently fixed, or able to be attached securely when worn.
• Armor is painted white and red to match reference images, and to match the white and red paint used on the helmet and other hard armor pieces.
• The front of the Upper Chest Armor has a semi-circular notch cut into the center of the lower front edge.
• The red painted inverted triangle at the front covers the entirety of the shoulders and the Shoulder Pauldrons.  The lower sides run from the front edge of each Shoulder Pauldron to meet at the semi-circular notch at the bottom of the Upper Chest Armor.
• A circular white detail indent with black outline is present halfway along the lower left (as worn) side of the front triangle.
• A linear detail indent borders the lower edge of the upper chest plate.
• The red painted inverted triangle at the rear likewise covers the entirety of the shoulders and the Shoulder Pauldrons.  However the lower sides differ from the front as they run from the lower edge of the Pauldrons down to the bottom center of the Lower Chest Plate, not the Upper Chest Plate.  Note that much of this will be hidden by the Jetpack.
• The Lower Chest Armor has symmetrical, twin semi-circular notches cut into the lower front edge.  The notches line up with the details featured in the Abdominal Armor.
• The lower edge of the Lower Chest Armor curves down to the sides from a arched center point at the front center.  The rear edge therefore sits much lower than the front, and covers almost the entirety of the Abdominal Armor underneath.
• A linear detail indent borders the lower edge of the lower chest plate.
• The two layers of the Chest Armor may be joined in a clamshell front and back design, so long as the connection point is relatively seamless.

Shoulder Straps

• White painted hard armor "straps" sit on both shoulders connecting the front and back halves of the Upper Chest Armor.
• The material and white paint of the straps should match those of the Chest Armor.

Abdominal Armor

• Made from the same hard material as the rest of the armor, and painted white to match all other relevant armor.
• May be constructed in a clamshell front and back design, so long as the connection point is relatively seamless.
• Is worn so that it is overlapped by the Lower Chest Armor above it.  The Lower Chest Armor curves down at the sides so that almost completely overlaps the Abdominal Armor at the rear.
• Two symmetrical detail indents are present at the front, to match reference pictures.
  • The outer edges of each design must be aligned with the cut outs at the bottom edge of the Lower Chest Armor.
  • The inner details are rectangular, with a semi-circular top edge that sits just below the semi-circular cut outs on the Lower Chest Plate.
  • The inner details are split into four segments, divided to match reference images.

Jetpack

• The same basic design as the Sabine Wren / Imperial Super Commando animated jetpack, but matching visual references for paint and markings.
• Central thruster is painted a dark gunmetal.
• Side thrusters are painted red and white to match other armor parts, with designs to match visual references.
• Red areas show medium to heavy weathering to match visual references, white in color to match other armor parts.
• There is a curved bridge over the central thruster that is yellow/gold in color with 3 white designs to match visual references.
  • The height of the bridge piece is approximately 1/5 the length of the central thruster, and the top of the bridge piece is located approximately this same distance from the top of the thruster.

Forearm Armor

• Armor is painted red to match the other armor parts.
• Moderate to heavy weathering in white is present on both forearms, with a horizontal scratch particularly visible on the left forearm.
• Each forearm has two raised rectangular compad buttons located just above the wrist.
  • The button closest to the wrist is red.
  • The upper button is orange.
• Armor is seamless on the outer edge.
  • Due to the shape of the armor, a butted seam is acceptable on the inside if required.
• Elbow plate is integrated into the forearm.
• Left forearm has a spiraling white band painted above the wrist.  This starts behind the red button, follows the contours of the armor around the back, and terminates just above and to the side of the orange button.
• Right forearm has an angled white band painted between the forearm plate and the integrated elbow plate, matching reference images.  This band continues to the rear of the forearm plate, flush with the top edge.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable)

• The rear lower portion of each forearm tapers slightly inwards towards the wrist, starting approximately at the same level as the gap between the two compad buttons.

Gloves

• Gloves are made from a textured fabric, closely matching the maroon of the upper flight suit.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Gloves should be made from the same material as the upper flight suit.

Hand Plates

• Hand plates should be red in color, matching other armor parts.
• Hand plates should extend up the wrist and the gauntlets.
• Hand plates may be constructed from a flexible material to facilitate movement.
• A white triangular design should be painted on both hand plates, matching visual references.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Hand plates shall run underneath the gauntlets.

Belt

• Belt is of the same material and color as other white armor parts.
• Comprised of approximately 16 vertically chained rectangles.
• Two of these rectangles meet with an interlocking design at the front center.
• A white pouch sits on the belt at each hips, matching visual references.
  • The belt may of the same material as the belt, or a white leather-like material.

Codpiece

• Codpiece is of the same material and color as other white armor parts.
• Codpiece attaches under the belt.
• There is a 3 sided detail imprint on the front of the codpiece.

Thigh Armor

• The thigh armor is of the same material and color as other white armor parts.
• The center of each piece is rectangular in shape, with an inset rectangular detail indent.
• There are angled "wings" curving from both sides of the armor, each reaching the center front and center back of each thigh.
  • These "wings" are offset from center, sitting closer to the top than the bottom.
• The thigh armor must be attached with an "invisible" method.  There should be no visible strapping.

Knee and Shin Armor

• The knee and shin armor is painted to match red armor pieces, with white weathering consistent with visual references.
• The armor may be constructed from flexible material to allow a greater range of movement.
• The knee plate may be permanently fixed to the shin armor, or hinged to allow greater movement.
• The upper curve of the knee plate should sit just below the seam of the undersuit's thigh panels.
• The knee armor may be constructed of a flexible material to allow a greater range of movement.
• The armor runs from the top of each calf, and overlaps the sides of each boot.  The toes, bridge and heel of each boot remains uncovered, consistent with visual references.
• There is a semi-circular notch in the top center of each boots.  The knee armor is aligned with this notch.

Boots

• Boots are red, as close as possible a match to the red armor.
• There should be no decorative stitching.
• There should be little to no heel on the boots.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Boots shall have a tan colored sole.

Optional Accessories
Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.

Imperial Super Commando Blaster Carbine

• Unique blaster carbine accurate to screen references.
• The receiver and scope are painted in three tones of grey, matching visual references.
• Dark grey / black telescoping stock with an end plate and circular recessed detailing (may also be painted) on either side.  May be functional.
• Dark grey barrel protrudes from the end of the receiver, with a light grey cuboid shape protruding underneath.
• Symmetrical detail indents (may be painted) on each side of the receiver:
  • 3 rectangular shapes
  • 2 circular shapes
• Symmetrical detail indents (may be painted) on the dark grey / black grip.
• Rifle scope scaled correctly to the blaster.
• Dark grey dual front and rear sights on either side of the scope, with a dark grey circular greeblie sitting just behind the front sights.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Telescoping stock shall be functional.

[beren88]

i see the helmet is yellow.  does that mean the info was started before? or because we are working on it right now for the build i am starting?

from what i can tell, 2 vendors have made the helmet, do3d, which isnt very accurate and skylu released a set.  Have they been viewed before? i dont think the do3d one is very accurate, as thats not what do3d cares about when they pump out the models.

skylu i havent looked at yet. so if you know, ill defer to your judgement and i can find that one.

Aleternatively, if the skylu is ok, but not perfect, i can always design a new helmet and then the detachment can pour over the model as i build it to ensure its perfectly accurate. im open to that option. that way many eyes will make a model perfect

 

[beren88]

early draft of the helmet

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DWM]]

On 4/27/2023 at 3:20 PM, beren88 said:

i see the helmet is yellow.  does that mean the info was started before? or because we are working on it right now for the build i am starting?

from what i can tell, 2 vendors have made the helmet, do3d, which isnt very accurate and skylu released a set.  Have they been viewed before? i dont think the do3d one is very accurate, as thats not what do3d cares about when they pump out the models.

skylu i havent looked at yet. so if you know, ill defer to your judgement and i can find that one.

Aleternatively, if the skylu is ok, but not perfect, i can always design a new helmet and then the detachment can pour over the model as i build it to ensure its perfectly accurate. im open to that option. that way many eyes will make a model perfect

 

Sorry, I didn't meant to miss this initial post! The helmet text being yellow just means that that is the current step were on for drafting the CRL. I do see that you are on your way with designing the helmet in the below post!

On 5/17/2023 at 8:38 AM, beren88 said:

early draft of the helmet

I like it thus far!

[beren88]

1 hour ago, IcyTrooper said:

Sorry, I didn't meant to miss this initial post! The helmet text being yellow just means that that is the current step were on for drafting the CRL. I do see that you are on your way with designing the helmet in the below post!

I like it thus far!

yeah, i posted another wip in the other threads.  feel free to critique t and poke out any curves or things im missing. the beauty of it being modeled as we write the crl is, we can ensure its flawless before it goes to print

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

While we wait for Kevin, it is worthwhile jumping back into the grunt CRL.  As Saxon's text is now complete, I have copied and pasted it above, and we can go through it item by item in the usual fashion.  Starting as usual with the helmet, here is Gar Saxon's text as a starting point:

Helmet

• Imperial Mandalorian Super Commando style helmet, matching visual references from Star Wars Rebel animated series.
• Helmet should be painted and weathered to match references. Weathering/chipping of the white paint should match the light grey paint used elsewhere on the helmet.
• Helmet dome and face plate to be painted red as per references.
• Rear plate, raised rear panel detailing, the upper cheek plates, left ear plate and teeth must be painted light grey as per references.
• Helmet dome and face plate, lower cheek plates, raised rear panel, must be painted white (or a lighter shade of grey), as per references. Additional detailing on rear plate must be painted white.
• The ear caps and antennae may be painted light grey or a weathered white.
• All recessed panel lines are black or dark grey.
• There is an inverted white outlined red triangle with a white outline in the center of the forehead. This should be painted.  A weathered decal may be acceptable if achieving the look of having been painted.
• Both visor pieces are black, and obscure the wearer's face. The lower visor tapers in slightly to its narrowest point at the bottom.
• The left ear cap is oval, with a raised circular detail at the top, and a slightly tapered antenna with a circular profile.
• The right ear cap is angled at the top, with a narrower half oval at the base. There is an angled recessed panel line in the bottom right corner of the cap. The cap has a raised circular detail at the top, and two antennae. The rear antenna matches that on the left side, while the front antenna is significantly taller.
• Twin recessed panel lines (1 & 2) run around the upper visor, angle up over the ear pieces, and join together in horizontal lines across the back of the helmet. A third panel line (3) runs parallel and just above the upper of these two lines (2), joined to this same upper panel line at both ends, and running horizontally across the central portion of the rear of the helmet. The distance between 2 and 3 is approximately half the distance between lines 1 and 2 at the rear of the helmet.
• Additional panel lines vertically bisect each ear plate, and run around their edges.
• The rear bottom lip of the helmet has a raised, curved rim, running between the rear edges of each ear plate.
• The back plate has a raised rectangular panel with details to match references. These are long vertical oblongs on both sides, a circle in the lower center, and a double striped rectangle within another rectangle in the upper center. Details are outlined by recessed panel lines.
• The back plate is light grey, but has white detailing painted on either side of the raised rectangular panel.
• There are six teeth, three on each side of the lower visor, with the recesses painted black or dark grey.

I will take some additional high resolution screens grabs to supplement our reference images, but all of the existing images seem to point to this helmet being identical to that worn by Gar Saxon.  The only difference being that the dome and face plate of the helmet is painted white on the grunt, in place of the red paint seen on Saxon's helmet.  I have not yet been able to spot any other difference.