Del Meeko CRL Change proposals FEBRUARY 2025

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

On 6/18/2025 at 7:40 PM, Blackwatch said:

Something was just brougth up about the vest that has been missing.  There are two vertical seams on the vest at the inner edge of the webbing, on the outer edge of the M16 pouches. Im adding verbiage to what we have agreed upon. In the game play one looks topstitched, one looks butt jointed. Im willing to allow either for L1. 

 

New text in green. 

Please comment. 

 

Change log 2.1

Tactical Vest

 

• The tactical vest and its pouches are made of black fabric similar to the flight suit material. Heavy black canvas is recommended. 
• There are three M4 / M16 style magazine pouches fitted to the front of the vest, each filled by a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each package has a black gloss strip mounted to the front at the top, which should appear to be constructed from a similar material to the costume's hard armour parts. 
• There is a black block on the right side of the vest matching references, held in place by one of the webbing straps described below 
• There are a total of fourteen wide horizontal black webbing straps sewn onto the front of the tactical vest, with four stacked horizontally on either side of the pouches, and two at the front of each pouch. Straps are approximately 1" (25mm) wide and sewn to match reference images.
• There are two vertical stitched lines near the inner edge of the horizontal webbing strips. This may be topstitched or butt joined. 
• The main shoulder straps are made from leather or leather-like material, which cross at the back and attach to the top edge of the vest on both sides.  The front shoulder straps are attached to triglide buckles, which in turn attach to the top front edge of the vest with a shorter strap.  
• The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap runs through a tri-glide at the rear before feeding into approximately 1" (25mm) wide side release buckles which attach to the top edge of the vest.  
• There is a leather or leather-like waist strap (approximately 1" or 25mm wide) present at the back of the tactical vest, and it is attached to the vest with one quick release buckle on the right or left side of the vest at the wearer's option. This quick release buckle is hidden under the scout pouch, and is not seen when worn. A single adjusting tri-glide is centered on the back waist strap.
• There is a specific buckle greeblie mounted above the front tri-glide buckles on each side, matching reference images. 
• There is a horizontal strip mounted to each front shoulder strap, several inches above the buckle greeblie. The strips should be made from the same material as the shoulder straps. 
• The Flyye tactical vest is not accurate and will not be approved for use. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
 

• The vest is proportional to the wearer.  See reference images and the Costume Gallery for placement of specific components.  
• All shoulder and waist straps are made of black leather or leather-like material.
• Vest front tri-glides are made with reference to the games 3D model, and are attached to the vest with straps that are approximately 1.37" x 1.37" (35mm x 35mm) wide.
• Buckle style greeblies made with reference to the 3D models are attached to the shoulder straps above the tri-glides.
• The front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers which are glued, sewed or bonded together.  Stitching is permitted as long as the stitches are small and do not detract from the overall appearance.  The first (bottom) layer is approximately 1.37" (35mm)  The middle layer shall be approximately 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is approximately 9/16" (15mm) wide. 
• The layered part of the leather shoulder straps runs up over the shoulders and stops below the rear of the collar.  It then continues on as an approximately 1" (25mm) wide black strap, passing through tri-glides and into side release buckles, which are held to the vest with straps that are approximately 1" (25mm) wide.        
• The three magazine pouches fall below the bottom edge of the vest. The top of the pouch is in line with the bottom edge of the upper webbing strap. The bottom edge of the pouch may come close to but not touch the top edge of the overbelt. 

Good catch, though given that this has gone virtually unnoticed for years I'd say that it's safe to put this new text as a Level 2 requirement?

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

I had it put in as an L1, but as you say its gone un-noticed and not commented on in the original discussion at any point, nor does the line//seam appear in any of the 3d model renders.  Given its appearance as both a butt seam AND a topstich, Im inclned to allow both, even on the same vest. 

[tipperaryred[CMD-DCA]]

On 6/26/2025 at 8:39 PM, Blackwatch said:

I had it put in as an L1, but as you say its gone un-noticed and not commented on in the original discussion at any point, nor does the line//seam appear in any of the 3d model renders.  Given its appearance as both a butt seam AND a topstich, Im inclned to allow both, even on the same vest. 

Sound, if it doesn't even appear on the 3D renders then it probably doesn't belong as a requirement for basic clearance.  It might be a good rule of thumb to stick to for consistency?  Features that don't appear in the game renders but are visible in the hi-res promotional images can be strictly limited to Level 2?  The mesh behind the lenses is another good example of that.

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

heres the next change log for our vest.  Clearly one of the more complcated parts for Del. 

Change log 2.2

Tactical Vest

• The tactical vest and its pouches are made of black fabric similar to the flight suit material. Heavy black canvas is recommended. 
• There are three M4 / M16 style magazine pouches fitted to the front of the vest, each filled by a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each package has a black gloss strip mounted to the front at the top, which should appear to be constructed from a similar material to the costume's hard armour parts. 
• There is a black block on the right side of the vest matching references, held in place by one of the webbing straps described below 
• There are a total of fourteen wide horizontal black webbing straps sewn onto the front of the tactical vest, with four stacked horizontally on either side of the pouches, and two at the front of each pouch. Straps are approximately 1" (25mm) wide and sewn to match reference images.
• The main shoulder straps are made from leather or leather-like material, which cross at the back and attach to the top edge of the vest on both sides.  The front shoulder straps are attached to triglide buckles, which in turn attach to the top front edge of the vest with a shorter strap.  
• The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap runs through a tri-glide at the rear before feeding into approximately 1" (25mm) wide side release buckles which attach to the top edge of the vest.  
• There is a leather or leather-like waist strap (approximately 1" or 25mm wide) present at the back of the tactical vest, and it is attached to the vest with one quick release buckle on the right or left side of the vest at the wearer's option. This quick release buckle is hidden under the scout pouch, and is not seen when worn. A single adjusting tri-glide is centered on the back waist strap.
• There is a specific buckle greeblie mounted above the front tri-glide buckles on each side, matching reference images. 
• There is a horizontal strip mounted to each front shoulder strap, several inches above the buckle greeblie. The strips should be made from the same material as the shoulder straps. 
• The Flyye tactical vest is not accurate and will not be approved for use. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The vest is proportional to the wearer.  See reference images and the Costume Gallery for placement of specific components.  
• There are two vertical stitches near the inner edge of the horizontal webbing straps. This may be topstitched. 
• All shoulder and waist straps are made of black leather or leather-like material.
• Vest front tri-glides are made with reference to the games 3D model, and are attached to the vest with straps that are approximately 1.37" x 1.37" (35mm x 35mm) wide.
• Buckle style greeblies made with reference to the 3D models are attached to the shoulder straps above the tri-glides.
• The front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers which are glued, sewed or bonded together.  Stitching is permitted as long as the stitches are small and do not detract from the overall appearance.  The first (bottom) layer is approximately 1.37" (35mm)  The middle layer shall be approximately 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is approximately 9/16" (15mm) wide. 
• The layered part of the leather shoulder straps runs up over the shoulders and stops below the rear of the collar.  It then continues on as an approximately 1" (25mm) wide black strap, passing through tri-glides and into side release buckles, which are held to the vest with straps that are approximately 1" (25mm) wide.        
• The three magazine pouches fall below the bottom edge of the vest. The top of the pouch is in line with the bottom edge of the upper webbing strap. The bottom edge of the pouch may come close to but not touch the top edge of the overbelt.