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I like those changes. The only thing we might want to change is referring the boots to an actual film. For example first order TK boot. The reason for this is allot of people use the elastic type boot for FO tk's cause of the armor peice that slides over it and covers it. Although we do mention the zipper itself this might create issues with the GML's with people arguing they are using a FO tk boot. Maybe we can word it like this "Boots are all black, ankle high new Era style tk boots" That way a specific costume or film is not mentioned.

Yes I totally agree! I've been trying to get my range trooper done so haven't been on the fourm for a bit. I was going to say the same thing. They definitely appear to be black R1 tk boots. Suggested draft: Black R1 style TK boots Boots are made from leather or a leather like material and are completely black in color Boots are all leather with no elastic cut outs for cuff Boots have an inner zipper that replaces the elastic cuff Zipper must be black in color

Should we pin the pauldron for now and move onto the boots?

So probably a black velcro tab that closes the 2 parts. Black velcro sewn on with black thread would be virtually invisible.

Would you guys agree there is no type of closure on the pauldron? To me it looks to be one peice. What are your thoughts? https://www.flickr.com/cameraroll

I think those parts are solid and can be finished. I would suggest we wrap up all the soft parts since we are already on the subject. I feel the armor will go by relatively quickly since 90% of it is just seamed "realistic style" clone armor.

There will be a decent about of undersuit showing in the opening of the neck when the armor is on. I would suggest we require the bib to be worn on the outside of the undersuit to cover this as the undersuit it's self won't have ribbing in that area.

One thing I'd recommend is just wording it alittle more simple to make it more user friendly. All the details are good. This is a draft I wrote a little while back. We can take bits and pieces if needed. One thing I think we definitely want to mention is the corners being cut at an angle and the end being flat. Pauldron is based off the sand trooper design There is a strap that runs along the bottom of the bicep to secure pauldron to shoulder and is secured by a silver snap on the front and back side Pauldron is a one piece design with no opening or closing strap on the end. Pauldron is flat on the end with the corners being cut at about a 45° degree angle There are 6 vertical stitches that run up the front and back of the pauldron There is a black stich that runs about a 1/4 inch in that runs along the outside perimeter of the pauldron There is a large red peice of vinyl that is attached on top of the pauldron The red vinyl is cut to allow the outer black edges to show and is cut out around the arm stud Lvl2 Pauldron is made from real leather

That looks solid.

Here is a suggestion for the neck seal Lvl:1 Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck. Ther is a bib attached to the neck seal made from the same ribbing material as the undersuit. Bib must be large enough to cover the entire neck opening of the chest and back armor

Updated suggestion Lvl:1 Black non-textured material, either one-piece or two-piece construction with no visible logos/designs. Zippers are allowed but must not be visible. ribbing material must be present anywhere undersuit is shown All ribbing must be horizontal Waist must have matching ribbing material Lvl:2 Ribs must not be wider then 1/4 inch The undersuit is a one piece construction A zipper runs along the entire front of the undersuit and incloses the front of the undersuit. The forearms and calves are smooth and contain no ribbing.

Correct. There is one photo I have where the forearm looks more like a vinyl or leather type material but going through my references that's the only one that appears that way so it's probably just that pic. I say let's just have the smooth parts the same fabric as the other smooth parts of the jump suit.

Okay if that's the case then I suggest we scrap the stitching between ribs. That's such a fine un noticeable detail that if there is not level 3 is probably not even worth mentioning. As far as the smooth parts we could just allow it to be the same material as the non ribbed parts. The imperial boots jump suit matches the reference photo exactly and that's how his are.

Here is a suggested rough draft Lvl:1 Black non-textured material, either one-piece or two-piece construction with no visible logos/designs. Zippers are allowed but must not be visible. ribbing material must be present anywhere undersuit is shown All ribbing must be horizontal Waist must have matching ribbing material Lvl:2 Ribs must not be wider then 1/4 inch The undersuit is a one piece construction The forearms are smooth and made from a smooth vinyl/rubber like material A zipper runs along the entire front of the undersuit and incloses the front of the undersuit. Lvl:3 Black stitching runs between every rib of the jumpsuit

I think the ribbing definitely should be a requirement for even level 1. If you look at all the other new Era costumes that use a ribbed undersuit it's a requirement for even level 1. Level 2 and 3 are for small details that add more detail and authenticity but this Is a primary costume part.

Here is the crl from the rogue one TK. I'm not sure where they have gotten references of a 2 part suit. All the known sources are a one part but we can alter those details. Under Suit Black non-textured material, either one-piece or two-piece construction with no visible zippers or logos/designs. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Top, where visible shall be fully ribbed with all horizontal ribbing on the arms, chest, and back. The centre of chest and back may be mesh as long as it is covered by armor. Pants shall be black non-textured material and have horizontal ribbing at the knees only. Knee gaskets are allowed as long as they correctly match top ribbing material, spacing and color. The hip section shall not have ribs. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): All ribbing on knees, arms, chest, and back must be stitched between each rib in detail and proportion to official references. The armpit area shall have the correct hexagonal mesh detail

Oh also it should be noted all the ribs are horizontal on every part of the suit. This differs from the older clone trooper undersuit people might try to use so we would want to be sure to specify that

Correct. I forgot to mention the neck seal has a bib sewn to it in the same ribbing material. That's what covers the chest and back. If you look closely at the purge under suit reference photo you can also see he has ribbing around his waist aswell.

not to jump way down the list but may be easier to knock out all the soft parts at once. according to screen used references the boots also seem to be black R1 style TK boots. same thing was done with the clones in Kenobi as well. one thing ive learned in the absurd amount of time and money i have spent prop building is Lucasfilm loves to surplus any costume parts they can haha. here are some examples from my research.

we are lucky enough to have an amazing reference photo of the under suit witch seems to match the R1 TK under suit exactly

with Kenyon killing it with the helmet i figured id move on to the neck seal and under suit to keep the ball rolling. the under suit appears to be the R1 tk under suit. the same under suit has been used for almost every imperial costume with armor since R1. it has been confirmed even the clone troopers in Kenobi utilized this under suit. as far as the neck seal it looks to be a standard ribbed TK neck seal but specifically made from vinyl. attached is a photo of a confirmed screen used under suit and the R1 under suit available at keeptrooping.com

I know we have not officially wrapped up the helmet but as far as the armor goes I should be able to help quite a bit. I have ordered a kit that was made as a direct copy from a screen used clone trooper from kenobi witch is the same base armor. I'll check back in a little while and see if the armor discussion has started!

I have ordered the new jinta studios kit and will also be glad to help any way i can as i build the kit!

Id like to help the crl along any way i can. i have bought chis the prop guy new andor/kenobi clone files with the purge trooper specific parts. i will begin printing and post updates as i get them. also getting some custom red silk/polly fabric printed with the cogs for the kamas. after allot of research his new files look spot on.