Finalizing CRL Proposal - SCAR Squadron - Task Force 99: Sergeant Kreel (#59/60)

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized):

• Helmet
• Neck Seal
• Under Suit
• Shoulder Straps
• Shoulder Armor
• Pauldron
• Biceps
• Biceps Pouch
• Forearms
• Compad
• Hand Plates
• Gloves
• Chest Armor
• Back Armor
• Abdomen Armor
• Kidney Armor
• Posterior Armor
• Lightsaber
• Belt
• Thermal Detonator
• Holster
• Thigh Armor
• Thigh Pouches
• Lower Leg Armor
• Boots
• E-11 Blaster (Optional)

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Description: SCAR Squadron - Task Force 99: Sergeant Kreel (#59/60)
Prefix: TX
Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment
Context: Star Wars by Marvel Comics

Sergeant Kreel, designated Agent 5241, was an undercover stormtrooper and SCAR trooper of the Galactic Empire, serving in the 501st Legion under the direct command of Darth Vader. Kreel was given command of an elite group of SCAR troopers, designated Task Force 99.

For 501st membership only the requirements listed in black need to be met.

Black text indicates a feature that is required for approval. Blue text denotes requirements for Level 2 "Specialist," but is not required for basic approval. Visit the Spec Ops website for a full description of these standards.

Special Notes:

• The armor is gloss white and gloss black in the appropriate spots, or as noted.
• Armor is made from one of these (or similar) types of materials:
  • Fiberglass
  • ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)
  • HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene).
  • PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing)
  • Polyurethane Rubber
• Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.
• 3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed.

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Helmet

• Lenses must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. They are either flat or bubbled. Acceptable colors are black, smoke, or dark green.
• The “ear” bars have three or four bumps and are gray or painted gray, with a black outline. Painting the bumps with rank stripes (highlighted) in black is optional.
• The frown must have 7 teeth cut out and any coloring must not leave the indented area.
  • Acceptable colors is gray.
  • Black mesh must be used to obscure the face of the wearer.
• The tube stripes are blue or black in color and may number between 9 and 15 per side with the curve bends extending backwards. These can be either hand painted or decals.
• Vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is painted black.
• The aerators (cylinders on either side of the vocoder) are black, and screening can be either silver or black.
  • The interior of the aerator can either be white, silver or black.
• Traps (trapezoids on dome of helmet) and tears (area beneath the corners of eye lenses) can be hand painted or decals.
  • Acceptable color is gray. Rear traps and tears have vertical black lines.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are bubbled and are dark green.
• On the ears there is the presence of 1 screw above the ear bars and no screw below the rank bar. The screw is painted white.
• Ear bars have 3 bumps only, not 4.
• A black rank stripe is painted on the rear most bump.
• There will be 13 black tube stripes per side with the curve bends extending backwards. These can either by hand painted or decals.

Neck Seal

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.

Under Suit

• Black non-textured material, either one-piece or two-piece construction with no visible zippers or logos.

Shoulder Straps

• These must be securely mounted in front and may free float in back. They can be affixed with rivets, Velcro or adhesive.
• The rear tab of the strap is optional and may or may not be present.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• There is no visible method of attachment for the straps to the chest.

Shoulder Armor

• One on each shoulder.
• The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical. They can be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• There should be a minimal gap between the shoulder armor and chest/back plate.

Pauldron

• Light orange in color and made from vinyl or leather. It must be worn over the right shoulder.
• The shape of the pauldron looks like a shell with the following:
  • On the side closest to the neck it runs from front to back almost straight with a slight bend towards the outside of the shoulder.
  • On the front and rear there is pronounced curve from the inside of the shoulder to the outside as it rounds out to a more gradual curve on the outside of the pauldron and shoulder.
• There is a black Imperial cog that may be painted or a decal and affixed to the lower corner of the front of the pauldron, closest to the chest armor.

Biceps

• Biceps are fully closed.
• Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.
• There shall be a return edge that is present with a maximum width of 3/8" (10mm) width.

Bicep Pouch

• There is a small pouch on the left bicep held by a strap around the bicep.
• The pouch is black in color and can be made of leather or leather-like material.
• Pouch has the approximate dimensions 3" x 3" x 1.75" (76mm x 76mm x 44.5mm) and must match references.
  • Pouch closure is trapezoidal in shape.
  • Pouch closure has a snap that is black in color.
• The strap is black in color and made of elastic, leather, leather-like material.
• The strap is approximately 1.5" (40mm) wide.

Forearms

• Forearms are fully sealed and closed.
• Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.
• There shall be no return edges present on the inside of the front of the forearms.

Compad

• There is a holographic communicator fastened around the left forearm by two straps.
• Holographic communicator has a rectangular shape and is black in color. 
• It has an aqua or light blue colored screen that must be lit in full.
• Holographic communicator must match in-comic references and proportions to the wearer.
• The straps are black in color and are made of elastic, leather, or leather-like material.
• The straps are approximately 1.5" (40mm) wide.

Hand Plates

• Pentagonal in shape, hand plates should be securely mounted over the back of the glove. These can be made up of plastic, latex or latex-like material.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Handguards shall be latex or latex-like, painted white and affixed with adhesive to rubber gloves with no visible strapping or stitching.

Gloves

• Black in color, made of either rubber, nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/ designs. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Gloves shall be rubber or rubber-like chemical gloves, in black.

Chest Armor

• Overlaps the abdominal armor.
• There is a slight groove running vertical on each lateral side of the chest that angles towards slightly towards the center.
• These vertical grooves line up with the abdomen armor lines.
• Chest armor must match in-comic references.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Chest plate shall have return edges all around, maximum width of 3/8" (10mm).
• Chest and back shall be connected with a white fabric (preferably elastic) that does not stick out or show under the shoulder plastic straps.

Back Armor

• Back plate contains a “O II” design with little or no overlap of the kidney plate.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Back plate shall have return edges all around, maximum width of 3/8" (10mm).

Abdomen Armor

• The abdomen and cod piece may combined/fused to a single plate/one piece or separate.
• Cod piece is white in color.
• The abdomen is black in color.
• There are three white lines, one vertical up the center with a diagonal line on each side. The distance between the vertical and diagonal lines is smallest where the abdomen meets the cod and extend diagonally to align with the recessed lines of the chest armor.
• There are two rectangular armor plates on each side of the abdomen approximately 3/32" to 1/8" (3-4mm) thick. The dimensions of each of the armor plates is approximately 4" x 1.75" x 0.30" (105mm x 45mm x 8mm).
• There are no visible snaps or rivets.
• Abdomen armor must match in-comic references.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The cod piece is separate from the abdomen armor.
• There should be no gap between the ab and kidney plate, a single visible seam line is ideal. Any gap between the abdomen and kidney armor shall be no more than 1/2” (12.5mm). Any shims used to achieve this effect shall have a similar material and color as with the abdomen and kidney armor. Shims should be flush and seams are allowed.

Kidney Armor

• The kidney armor is separate from the posterior armor (ANH style) and lines up with the abdomen armor.
• The top of the kidney armor is flush to or under the back armor.

Posterior Armor

• The posterior armor is separate from the kidney armor (ANH style).

Belt

• The ammo belt shall be made of similar material and color matching the overall armor. It is comprised of 6 rectangular boxes, with three square buttons, one centered in the middle and on each end of the belt.
• The soft belt proper is made of white canvas, or material with a canvas covering and must be 3” to 3.5” (75-90mm) wide.
• The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the plastic belt face via white straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt.
• The belt closes by overlapping in the rear center of the kidney/posterior armor where the thermal detonator is attached.
• There are two square silver metal rings that hold the large pouch on the right side.
• There is a silver lightsaber holder/hook on the right side of the left drop box.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The corners of the black plastic ammo belt shall be trimmed at a 45 degree angle that meets the outer edge of the canvas belt.
• Drop boxes must be attached using white elastic and must have full inner drop boxes to close the back. Flat covers are not allowed.
• Drop boxes are vertically aligned with the end of the ammo belt with minimal gap between belt and box.

Thermal Detonator

• (A.K.A O2 canister) is attached to the center back of the belt.
• Detonator consists of a gray cylinder with 2” to 2.68” (50-68mm) in diameter with white end caps on each end and a white control panel pad. The white control panel pad faces upwards, with the controls/round washer-style detail closest to the right end cap.
• The total length is approximately 7.5” (190.5mm).
• No silver stickers or silver paint is allowed.
• The detonator is attached to the white canvas belt with 1” (25mm) silver metal or metallic-appearing clips. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Clips shall be attached with slotted, pan head style screws, and painted black (two per clip). V-head screws are not permitted.
• Thermal detonator belt clips are positioned with little to no gap between the clips and the end caps.
• Belt clips shall be made of metal and must be silver.

Holster

• It is made of black leather or leather-like material.
• It is worn on the left side of the canvas belt and is attached via two leather or leather-like material straps to the canvas belt from behind. Affixed with either two fasteners at the bottom (one on each side), or four fasteners (two on the top, two on the bottom equaling two per strap) and may painted in white.
• Fasteners may be rivets, snaps or Chicago screws. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The holster is affixed with four fasteners, two on the top, two on the bottom (two per strap), painted in white.

Thigh Armor

• The thigh armor may open and firmly close in the back allowing the two halves to appear sealed.
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh.
• The bottom corners of the thigh ammo belt shall be rounded off.
• Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part.
• Cover strips must end at the top of lower ridge in front and back.
• If the two parts of the thigh armor cannot fit the user, cover strip should not be too wide. Instead, shims can be used to close the back of the thigh armor. Shims shall have a similar material and color to the whole armor, should be flush without seams. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• The thigh ammo belt must be attached to the thigh armor with a solid head rivet or fastener, painted white in the upper corner and fastened to the lower thigh ridge.
• Rivet diameter should be approximately 5/16” (8mm).
• The rivets used shall be single cap, double cap or split rivets. Standard pop rivets are not allowed.
• Must be constructed using the butt joint cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.

Thigh Pouches

• There is a medium pouch on the left thigh held by two straps.
  • The pouch is black in color and made of leather or leather-like material.
  • Pouch has the approximate dimensions 5.5" x 4" x 1.75" (140mm x 101.6mm x 44.5mm) and must match references.
  • The strap is approximately 2" (50mm) wide. Black in color made of elastic, leather, or leather-like material.
• On the right thigh is a large pouch, held by two straps. The straps are fastened to the belt with square metal rings.
  • The pouch is black in color and made of leather or leather-like material.
  • Pouch approximate dimensions 7" x 5.5" x 1.75" (178mm x 140mm x 44.5mm) and must match references.
  • The strap is approximately 1.5" (40mm) wide. Black in color made of leather, or leather-like material.

Lower Leg Armor

• The shin armor is able to open and firmly close in the back allowing the two halves to appear sealed. The trapezoid knee plate is affixed to the top of the left shin.
• Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Sniper knee plate must be aligned with the ridges on the shin.
• The sniper knee plate must not have visible rivets or fasteners attaching it to the shin.
• Shins are constructed using the butt joint cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.

Boots

• Boots are above ankle height and made of black leather or leather-like material.
• Small U-shaped elastic sections on both sides of the ankle.
• Flat sole with a short heel.
• No buckles or laces.
• Jodhpur/Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
• Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• There is no seam present on the front of the boot.

Lightsaber

• The lightsaber is accurate to what is shown in the illustrations within "Star Wars by Marvel Comics (2018) - Issue #59.
• Main hilt and hand grip are black in color.
• If the lightsaber has a blade, the blade is green in color.
• The lightsaber should only be required as long as it's in compliance with the applicant’s local laws.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Reflects 1:1 scale in size and appears to be of metal or chrome stock.

E-11 Blaster (Optional)

Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the E-11 is standard-issue for many Imperial troops. Light, compact yet powerful, the E-11 blaster is always in high demand throughout the galaxy.

• Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Folding stock.
  • Stock does not need to function.
• A real or replica ammo counter - based off of a Hengstler counter - should be present.
• D-ring mounted on the rear.
• Correct style scope.
• Two power cylinders on the magazine.
• Scratch-built, resin cast, Hyperfirm rubber cast blasters should have a total of 6 t-racks on blaster (leaving the lowest row on the Hengstler side un-covered).
• If using the Hasbro E11 toy blaster, it is modified to have the correct number of T-tracks (6 total), with a lower row of open vent holes on the magazine housing side.
  • This is accomplished by covering the pre-existing rows of holes with T-tracks, then grinding off the lower integrated T-track on the magazine housing side, and drilling a new row of holes in its place.

 

[darthRivera[TX]]

I don't know if I shouldn't write here, please delete the post if it is.

 

I took the liberty of writing a CRL proposal. Maybe it will work to start this job. I had never written a CRL, in addition to the fact that English is not my native language, I apologize for any grammatical errors that you may find.  Some parts are difficult to describe in Spanish for me, and in English even more?. But I think that with this progress we can start. 

You can see the Word document that I have been working on here: 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pRqNhCQ5ZYg099BH0WsInf1UCeIhspw-?usp=sharing

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Sweet!! I'll copy over what you have from there over to this thread as we go item by item!

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Alright so now is time to go piece by piece, starting with the Helmet!

Helmet

• Lenses must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. They are either flat or bubbled. Acceptable colors are black, smoke, or dark green.
• The “ear” bars have three or four bumps and are gray or painted gray, with a black outline. Painting the bumps with rank stripes (highlighted) in black is optional.
• The frown must have 7 teeth cut out and any coloring must not leave the indented area.
  • Acceptable colors is gray.
  • Black mesh must be used to obscure the face of the wearer.
• The tube stripes are blue in color and may number between 9 and 15 per side with the curve bends extending backwards. These can be either hand painted or decals.
• Vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is painted black.
• The aerators (cylinders on either side of the vocoder) are black, and screening can be either silver or black.
  • The interior of the aerator can either be white, silver or black.
• Traps (trapezoids on dome of helmet) and tears (area beneath the corners of eye lenses) can be hand painted or decals.
  • Acceptable color is gray. Rear traps and tears have vertical black lines.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Lenses are bubbled and are dark green.
• On the ears there is the presence of 1 screw above the ear bars and no screw below the rank bar. The screw is painted white.
• Ear bars have 3 bumps only, not 4.
• A black rank stripe is painted on the rear most bump.
• There will be 13 blue tube stripes per side with the curve bends extending backwards. These can either by hand painted or decals.

I used what you had in your Google Drive file with a little reference to our stormtroopers we currently have. There were a few unique details I noticed on the SCAR troopers in the 59/60 issues.

    

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Since I don't think there are any other things needed for the helmet I can add it to the "pre-finalized" status above and touch back at the end or during discussion if something else pops up. Additionally, we are probably going to need L2 details to make sure there are no visible attachments on the shoulder straps that show how they are attached to the armor. This could be a L1 detail though because modifications are already needed to the chest plate if I remember correctly.

    

 

With that being said, moving onto the shoulder armor should be good.

[darthRivera[TX]]

Sounds good. Yes, the shoulder straps have nothing visible to hold them. The chest armor is the one that does have notable variations compared to a regular TK.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Here is what I have for the shoulder armor and orange pauldron:

Shoulder Armor

• One on each shoulder.
• The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical. They can be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• There should be a minimal gap between the shoulder armor and chest/back plate.

    

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Orange Pauldron

• Light orange in color and made from vinyl or leather. It must be worn over the right shoulder.
• The shape of the pauldron looks like a shell with the following:
  • On the side closest to the neck it runs from front to back almost straight with a slight bend towards the outside of the shoulder.
  • On the front and rear there is pronounced curve from the inside of the shoulder to the outside as it rounds out to a more gradual curve on the outside of the pauldron and shoulder.
• There is a black Imperial cog that may be painted or a decal and affix to the lower corner of the front of the pauldron, closest to the chest armor.

       

[nanotek[CMD-DWM]]

Are there any reference pics that we can align with the text. I think it would be useful to be able to see the linkage between the references and how we got to the text. At the moment I am having trouble trying align a library of pictures with details for each piece. Thanks

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

21 minutes ago, nanotek said:

Are there any reference pics that we can align with the text. I think it would be useful to be able to see the linkage between the references and how we got to the text. At the moment I am having trouble trying align a library of pictures with details for each piece. Thanks

I can link them into here, that is a good idea.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I haven't forgotten about this, work has been crazy for me.

[darthRivera[TX]]

Any help you require to move forward with this.  With pleasure.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

On 8/7/2021 at 4:57 PM, darthRivera said:

Any help you require to move forward with this.  With pleasure.

i know @IcyTrooper is super hammered still.  ive pinged him for his draft work if he has it n maybe i can push it forward

But for now I can go back n check your original draft n lets move to the next part, biceps

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@darthRivera Looking at your bicep text I just have 2 questions…

-Should we separate the pouch text from the bicep text as a separate item?

-Your text lists the strap for the pouch as leather.  Im wondering if leather/leather-like should be the only material or if elastic would suffice.

Thoughts?

P.S. These same questions would apply to forearm…as well.

[darthRivera[TX]]

16 minutes ago, RAIDER said:

@darthRivera Looking at your bicep text I just have 2 questions…

-Should we separate the pouch text from the bicep text as a separate item?

-Your text lists the strap for the pouch as leather.  Im wondering if leather/leather-like should be the only material or if elastic would suffice.

Thoughts?

P.S. These same questions would apply to forearm…as well.

We can actually do it either way, I think, it works. In other CRL I have seen these two ways when mentioning some item that is attached to a piece of armor.  I mentioned them in the text of the armor piece that they are attached respectively, perhaps for ease of understanding what that accessory has there.

 

About the straps, it is complicated, because the reference is a cartoon. I assume that everything related to pouches is leather or similar to leather because most items of this type in other suits are made of that material, but if someone argues that it is elastic, I cannot contradict it.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

5 minutes ago, darthRivera said:

We can actually do it either way, I think, it works. In other CRL I have seen these two ways when mentioning some item that is attached to a piece of armor.  I mentioned them in the text of the armor piece that they are attached respectively, perhaps for ease of understanding what that accessory has there.

 

About the straps, it is complicated, because the reference is a cartoon. I assume that everything related to pouches is leather or similar to leather because most items of this type in other suits are made of that material, but if someone argues that it is elastic, I cannot contradict it.

When I get home (daughter had some surgery today), I will put up bicep and forearm w the pouches and compad split separately for review.

Then we can move torso sections.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Alright @darthRivera @IcyTrooper I've taken the proposal and meshed it with some of our standard TK/TX Level 2 text.  I also split the pouch/compad into separate pieces (meaning separate pictures if possible).

NOTE: On the pouch/compad there aren't level 2 requirements YET (we can move stuff to Level 2 if needed), though I did add lines for the pouch closure (flap) shape and the rivet there.  My wording on what that rivet is may not be correct.  @Blackwatch may have a better suggestion on that word.  For the compad, I added a bit that the pad must be lit in full.

If we need to make further adjustments let me know…then I think we can just use standard hand guard and glove text…so we can move to the chest and ab/cod.

 

Biceps

• Biceps are fully closed.
• Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.
• There shall be a return edge that is present with a maximum width of 3/8" (10mm) width.

 

Bicep Pouch

• There is a small pouch on the left bicep held by a strap around the bicep.
• The pouch is black in color and can be made of leather or leather-like material.
• Pouch is proportional to the size of the wearer and will match in-comic references.
  • Pouch closure is trapezoidal in shape.
  • Pouch closure has a snap/rivet.
• The strap is black in color and made of elastic, leather, leather-like material.
• The strap is approximately 1.5 "(40mm) wide.

 

Forearms

• Forearms are fully sealed and closed.
• Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

• Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed.
• There shall be no return edges present on the inside of the front of the forearms.

 

Compad

• There is a holographic communicator fastened around the left forearm by two straps.
• Holographic communicator has a rectangular shape and is black in color. 
• It has an aqua or light blue colored screen that must be lit in full.
• Holographic communicator must match in-comic references and proportions to the wearer.
• The straps are black in color and are made of elastic, leather, or leather-like material.
• The straps are approximately 1.5 "(40mm) wide. Black in color made of leather or leather-like material.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

First of all, I'd like to thank @RAIDER for getting me back onto this and assisting with this. I would like to apologize to @darthRivera for the lag in this, short of any excuses I've had some real world issues that have set me back away from costuming duties but I'm almost out of the water. The pandemic hasn't been kind to my job (as most people haven't either).

That being said, let's keep it moving! I will make this a high priority on my end. Now onto this CRL!:

• Biceps - Text looks good to me, I'd make a motion to finalize it so that I can include it in the first post as the finalized text.
• Bicep pouch - Text looks good to me, I added zoomed in/isolated reference photos to Raider's post. One thing to think of for the pouch would be to add that the snap on that pouch is black. For the rivet I think we should just call it a snap and state that it doesn't not need to be functional in it. We should also put something in there that if there is any stitching it is black. That is similar to the requirements that they have in FISD with pouches on the HWT.
• Forearms - Text looks good to me, I'd make a motion to finalize it so that I can include it in the first post as the finalized text.
• Compad - That text looks good actually! Not sure we need any L2 stuff on it. Unless we keep it painted as a color for blue light blue for L1 and make the lit part a requirement for L2, just thinking of availability of parts.

What do you think?

I also updated the first post to have the added sections for this costume (e.g. bicep couch and forearm compad).

[darthRivera[TX]]

4 minutes ago, IcyTrooper said:

I would like to apologize to @darthRivera for the lag in this,

It is not necessary to apologize, on the contrary, to thank for the effort and work that you dedicate to the detachment.

 

8 minutes ago, IcyTrooper said:

Compad - That text looks good actually! Not sure we need any L2 stuff on it. Unless we keep it painted as a color for blue light blue for L1 and make the lit part a requirement for L2, just thinking of availability of parts.

About this, as Raider wrote it, I think it's okay. There is a bit of difficulty to make it bright. But if you consider a bit of flexibility with this topic. For LV1 it would be an aqua or light blue "screen". And in LV2, an aqua or light blue "illuminated screen".  But I repeat, I think that a bright screen with the colors already mentioned should be necessary for LV1.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

Excellent! I can see why we would want to keep it though, it is a pretty integral part of the costume so I can't see it being L2. I'm fine with L1 including illumination for the panel and then we can perhaps bypass the L2 requirements all together.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

14 hours ago, IcyTrooper said:

Excellent! I can see why we would want to keep it though, it is a pretty integral part of the costume so I can see it being L2. I'm fine with L1 including illumination for the panel and then we can perhaps bypass the L2 requirements all together.

Ok so uf ur rdy to bump that to top thread we can move to chest and ab I think and just use our standard handllate and glove text.

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

13 hours ago, RAIDER said:

Ok so uf ur rdy to bump that to top thread we can move to chest and ab I think and just use our standard handllate and glove text.

Got em loaded! I also made an edit to that bicep pouch to state that is is a snap (not a rivet) and black in color.

I agree on the hand plate and glove text being standard

[RAIDER[COTG]]

55 minutes ago, IcyTrooper said:

Got em loaded! I also made an edit to that bicep pouch to state that is is a snap (not a rivet) and black in color.

I agree on the hand plate and glove text being standard

K tomorrow morning I can post text for chest and probably ab as i think they tie together (with the lines) to review unless someone beats me to it.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Will be posting chest/ab in a bit but before I move fwd, I wanted to ask 2 questions about previous parts just to be sure…

- Helmet on Kreel (I need to check others) has consistently black tube stripes.  Add as an L1 option and an L2 req?

- Pauldron.  Last bullet needs word “affix” fixed to “affixed”.  But my question…the more I look at it the more I’m convinced this is an outer hard shell.  Im ok to leave what we have as L1 BUT Im wondering if it should be a piece of plastic armor attached over the shoulder bell, at the very least for L2.  I think this could be a part 3D modeled fairly easily bu someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff as well.  Thoughts?

[darthRivera[TX]]

3 hours ago, RAIDER said:

Helmet on Kreel (I need to check others) has consistently black tube stripes.  Add as an L1 option and an L2 req?

That was one of the doubts I always had. Indeed in all the references they are black. On the cover of issue #60 they look blue, but the design is different. So I thought that in the drawings they look black due to the laziness of the cartoonist. ? It might be an option to add LV1 and LV2 on this.

 

3 hours ago, RAIDER said:

Last bullet needs word “affix” fixed to “affixed”.  But my question…the more I look at it the more I’m convinced this is an outer hard shell.  Im ok to leave what we have as L1 BUT Im wondering if it should be a piece of plastic armor attached over the shoulder bell, at the very least for L2.  I think this could be a part 3D modeled fairly easily bu someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff as well.  Thoughts?

From the beginning I thought it could be a hard shell. It is difficult to know what material it really is. For ease I built it in foam. Even so, lined with the faux leather fabric is not as flexible, so it does the job.  I must say that if it were a solid piece, mobility would be complicated.

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@darthRivera Thx for the feedback. When he can we will let @IcyTrooper make the final call on the stripes but I think w all of the non-standard TK bits we see, it would seem acceptable to me to do the same here w the black stripes…still allow blue for possible TK conversions but make black the higher standard.

For the shoulder, I will move to your WIP thread to troubleshoot some ideas for a hard plate.  As far as the standard in the CRL…especially if we target L2, mobility would normally be a non-factor as much as the look.  It’s a comic…we will never know (so we can be flexible at L1, but how theyve drawn it really gives me the impression its a hard part.  Again, we can finalize these w @IcyTrooper