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The cord actually isn’t present on any suits made for either season of andor that I can remember, it’s still the split design but it’s purely relying on the rigidity of the biceps themselves to keep closed at the back, sometimes we had guys with larger biceps where they had gaps at the back but we actively tried to keep those guys away from camera especially in any shots that were behind, this goes for tac team, security troopers, army troopers etc

First pulls:

I found a legion member locally who was parting with his TX Death Trooper costume and picked it up off of him. Went to see it personally as he was local and it turned out things fit pretty well. He is a little taller than me, but overall the armor fit well enough to buy. Now I need to customize it to account for some slight fit issues. I'd like to hear from the community on ups/downs and things that don't look right. I looked over each piece and the CRL and each piece looks like it fits the bill, just need it to fit me right. On the suit up pictures, my handlers were 6 & 10 so there are things not sitting right. Some things I am already aware of and changes I need to make: 1. Helmet is missing visor (I took it out and have it off to the side). Going to need a new one that is either bubbled or has a better nose cutout as the one I have hurts the bridge of my nose. 2. Chest rig strapping is not tied around my waist, Its currently not long enough. One of the angled side pieces is also not connected. 3. Ammo pouch not installed 4. Belt wont fit as the snaps to close it are not in the right place for my waistline 5. One of the boxes on the belt isn't sitting right on the rubber belting as the opening is just a little too small. I may just trim the belt a little (or buy a new rubber strip) 6. Shoes got tore up on the top and one of the soles is coming loose. May just buy new ones. 7. On the left glove, there is a slight tear in the stitching on the index finger. Hopefully I can sew it closed 8. There are some scuffs on the paint where the armor is rubbing. I need to lookup how to fix it as this is apparently automotive paint so I don't want to just spray paint over it. 9. Need to redo the strapping on the thighs to the belt, its lets them hang a little low. 10. Need to trim up (or something) the shins. The tips of the shins dig into my ankles quite a bit. 11. need to loosen up the 12. Need to swap out the elastic on the biceps as they are a bit tight. 13. Need to tweak the velcro on the gauntlets as they are a little tight, but just a 1/4 or so makes them much more comfortable. 14. Need to hem the pants a bit as there is too much fabric at my ankles right now. 15. Need to swap out the elastic that connects the cod to the posterior as its technically too narrow.

Hey there! I’m still learning too, but I’m pretty sure it means that the LEDs must be included and work. Since Level 2 is striving for as close to screen-used as possible, they probably want to have all light options included and functioning to give it that more realistic appearance. However, I’ll let someone more knowledgeable jump in!

I have a question on the blaster lighting. Hopefully its OK to post in this thread as OP had the original question. The CRL says for basic that various blaster parts MAY be substituted for LED lights, and then Level 2 says that LEDs have to work. Is the intent to say that for level 2 you must swap all of those parts out for working LEDs, or that if you choose to install LEDs that they must work?

You could try to rig up a strap between the existing ones at 90 degrees to allow the pouch to sit up but as you can see in the photo below, the position can vary personally I like it better straight up and down

Hey fellow Dan! First question is who made the armor? It looks like a Jim Tripon fiberglass kit. I'll try to answer the topics I had to deal with my build: 1. If you aren't going for L2, you should be able to use a dremel and shave down the visor for a better fit. 4. The belt can be remade if you buy the rubber matting and follow the Jolly Roger's belt guide, but many people are now building them where the overlap is in front, covered by one of the two pouches on the side of the buckle. It's for easier suiting up. 6. Are these Doc Marten's or Crowprops shoes? Maybe you can take it to a shoe repair shop? Also, the ribbed flap covering the laces should go under the shin armor. Biggest advice is to start small with your updates, with what you are comfortable doing. See if your local garrison has people that can help out as well. It will give you good practice in maintaining/fixing future armor issues.

Progress! I dont have time today, but would you like us to start comparing your build against the text ti see if theres any other adjustments to be made?

imo " The bicep may appear “open” or split as seen on screen. " is perfect wording already. You can have it open if you want to, or don't. No need to specify otherwise

Thanks guys! Helmet details added so it was time for a suitup. The weather was funky so the lighting was all over the place, but the colors are just about the same as the previous photos with better lighting in the thread above. Let me know what you guys think!

Andreas, we are almost done with the CRL descriptions, once we do that, if your build matches, then we can have you take Hi resolution photos of your armor pieces and full suit up photos as reference photos to send into the Legion. New to the Legion costumes are very time consuming. I have seen some CRLs take up to 2 years start to finish. If I had to guess on this one, I would say probably less than 3-4 months provided we can finalize all the CRL wording, and your kit meets the wording.

Oh wow, that is an interesting update

It’s here! Gave everything a quick rinse the tub to get the plastic dust and styrofoam pieces off. Overall everything is accounted for and looks good, but I will definitely have to trim a few pieces where I can to fit a little better. That or put on a few pounds…

I'm back Spec Ops, So right here is what I have gathered a few things from stuff I Printed with the Sean Files(Before I stupidly deleted them all), from the spec ops member that I got with some of the items and now from Walter from Walts Trooper Factory(Image down Below the texts) to show what is my progress in gathering the pieces for the IST armor. Now with that being said I am sill missing a lot of stuff and not only I'm anxious but frustrated, I'm still glad I have these in my possession but hear me out. I really want to get to the assembly on the armor but I cant since now I will have to probably have to wait another half a year for Walter to mold the plastic to get everything else(I wish I was joking but the request/order began in December and they arrived this week, most of it had to be the weather and machine problems but u get where I'm coming from). Other members are either too busy or no where to be found in the forum(I ain't gonna argue on that since every one has a life and I do too) or send people messages that is simple, short or not too complicated to respond but ignore me while they seem to be active in the forums and that really pisses me off. IDK I'm just frustrated with life and now as I want to be packed with alternative information for the forums so no 1 is in the same dilemma as I am unfortunately. However, due to deleting the Sean files I want to find alternatives for much smaller or complicated things that be found though outside of the vendors I mentioned in my previous post. If anyone knows any good Mudtrooper/IAT/IST Files(Outside of the Sean's files) that are approved or just ok for Basic Standards that would be helpful since outside of the side curves that go on the back plate that I can get from Walter there's really just small items I need to grab but unsure where. Either way I'm still excited to work on the Biceps(where I can modify them to fit the basic criteria), the helmet for the most part and a lot of trimming on the armor which I don't mind, I know I sounded salty and upset but when the world kicks u in the nuts it hurts. I'm still glad some progress will be made, more info to come when I'm not too busy so keep an eye out for that.

Just an update on this thread. I have the full SITH red Jet Trooper kit complete including both blasters. I've done a line-by-line update to the earlier CRL proposal for a white kit to the red kit. Once my CRL proposal has been reviewed and approved, I'm ready to submit item photos to support the new CRL. I've test worn the kit and it is pretty awesome!

Based on the information available, I don't think *any* biceps in the Anthology style are a single piece design. The bungee system has been in place since Rogue One and can be found on all sorts of Troopers. I really like that the CRL Text acknowledges the bicep being split, nice touch!

chest and back armor cleared and locked. regarding the suit, many of us have the black suit already, and we will be re using it. I see no reason to create an all-new set of text to create an all new version of the suit. To me the costume builders on set re-used what they had, and that is how I will write the text. Ultimately, as we continue to create these CRLs, the LMO has the final say on what is approved text, and we have had to go back and change things with LMO input. Regrding seam hight, anyone who served in the US military in the 80s and wore BDUs knows that the blouse will fall to different hieghts on different people depending on build. My blouse falls to the top of my thigh but someone just an inch and a half taller than me wearing the same size blouse will have it appear to fall higher becaues they are taller. When we wrote "just to mid thigh" that means it will not go lower but higher IS permitted-based on all the discussion from S1 on both the green and black unforms, input from he people wearing them on set, staff discussion and what the the LMO ultimately agreed on. Shoulder armor and biceps are next, copied from the Security trooper CRL with prooposed changes: Change log 1.0 Shoulder armor: I may be wrong on this, but are these just common R1 stormtrooper shoulderbells? I dont see the grooves present on the regular Security or Alhani or Mudtrooper shoulders. I see no shoulder strap around the arm like Tks have. The whole shoulder armor just seems to flop about, and do whatever it wants mostly moving back on the arm when worn and on top of the Supervisor Heert's tunic it rides up and floats. So if these are just R1 shoulderbells we would suitabley alter our text to: Shoulder Armor Rogue One style stormtrooper shoulder armor. The shoulders are considered effectively symmetrical; they may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders. Shoulders are mounted to the shoulder strap via a 1" (25.4mm) up to 2" (50.8mm) webbing strap. A black elasic strap is permitted to help hold the armor in place. Biceps — Version One For basic approval a one-piece bicep is permitted. The bicep may appear “open” or split as seen on screen. Cover strips will appear on the front and back, covering joints if present. Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip inset into the top of the bevel. Cover strips may be as deep as ½" (12.7mm) and up to ⅞" (23.5mm) in width, beveled on all four sides. Biceps are painted to match the armor and helmet. and shins. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Biceps are a two-piece design with the halves held together with hidden flexible cord and shall remain flexible. I had my doubts regarding the two piece design until i noted that Sgt Gharials' biceps are clearly split and moving apart. I think the bicep the poor trooper that Kleya went beast mode on was probably a one piece design.

i have Jims armor and I have a metric frakton of Walts plastic. The flexible amor is wierd. It gives. Very handy, but the neck breaks. Tarrif was good enough to model up a replacement neck to be 3d printed in flexible material like TPU for us. ill be using the Jim armor for my own ISB build. Walt uses a top quality plastic. Gorgeous plastic. Now te edges of his molds where the mold meets the parting line, that gets a bit waffly, but as I said I have a LOT of Walts plastic, so I just work around it knowing that the edges need to be sorted out with care when cutting.

Very well reasoned Paul , its apprecated. im going to err on the side of Caution (and knowing how the LMOs approach what we do NOT see in references) and say the left name tape with a simple MEDIC in black or even blue as pointed out in the Wiki would be likely to recieve LMO blessing. Dropping that pouch can be accmplshed with very heavy fabric and a loop around the belt, with some plastic reinforcment inside it. For the box, less will be more towards acceptance by the LMO. Amazon is even kind enough to offer a pistol case molded in white

So I recently got my V1 helmet from Intergalactic supply (who also did my V5 gunner armor). And while I expected it to need some work to fit, I was actually surprised how big it was. (I have a big head so often times things are smaller for me than they are big like this) Thankfully I found these pads on amazon, As you can see it included a very large 1-2" thick pad that fit perfectly in the dome of the helmet, . Which was the perfect thickness for me to get the helmet EXACTLY at the level it needed to be.

There it is! My memory was lost on where we got that from lol. Thanks! And I figured those 2 other suggestions were for standard IATs...we can put that aside for now and just focus on the medic text.

@RAIDER I appreciate your feedback! I would imagine that the Imperial Army Logo came from Comic 35 of Sunder's uniform: I agree the Aurbesh should be standardized on the nametag. once it's decided what it should say. My other two suggestions were for any IAT, as regular troopers (suspender wearers) were seen with them.

With this text revision drafted, figure I'd chime in a bit since I did alot of that initial IAT work way back when... First, @MbIAT I appreciate all of the panel references to support your suggestions. Will always do our best to err on the side of references (though we haven't always been perfect). With that said, here's my take on some portions of the draft (I'll work in reverse): Medical Accessories: This could get hairy...I wouldn't leave it open for "creativity." That just seems like a Pandora's box. I think at most, maybe the box we see the trooper carrying. The other items are more like things you'd find in a tent and then hand to a wounded trooper...I wouldn't include those in the CRL. Additionally, I wouldn't even include the box unless a builder has one built to be reviewed, photo'd and ready to be added for others to reference. Pouches: I'll defer to @Blackwatch and @Beau Thacker on this. Nametape: For this, Option 1 seems the safest. Looking back at the Sapper, I think we may have written the rocker tag a little too loosely by not specifying what the text is saying...I'd even recommend we revisit that piece as the CRLs are getting transitioned to the new system. I'm actually torn a bit looking in hindsight because I can't recall where we even got the Imperial Army logo as it's not visible in any of the panels that I see (unless I'm overlooking it). So all that to say....if something is going on the nameplate (and I'm not certain we should anymore), the less the better IMO so I'm not a fan of adding logos...and then whatever is added should probably have a specified aurebesh text so costumes are uniform. I think that covers it for the medic variant along w your suggestion to remove suspenders. Now you made 2 other suggestions regarding holster and thermal det...are these not for the medic? My take on those...the holster optional orientation works for me...you supported that well w/ references. The det...I'm good w/ that as well...though the lore says they aren't standard, neither are the white belts being used. In this storyline, the IAT use of gear typically used by TKs (i.e. the belt), works.

Thank brother ! This immensely helpful . Ordered soft goods and armor . All I got is the boots so far .

Doing an IST trooper ( Ferrix) and this will be a big help thank you . I am fearing doing the collar . I ordered my armor from 850.

WoW! Luke you did an amazing job with this kit, i really like the painting results, can't wait to see the totally finished costume on you! Very Impressive job!

Sorry been away on vacation. Sure can try to move forward. I would only say to really work towards keeping the darker tones fairly consistent. In these latest shots can see the 2 shoulder bells together side by side...the one on the left looks has pretty noticeable darker tones than the one on the right (which is the one that you showed more clearly in the wave of pics prior to this one).

Aluminum alloy upgrade

before moving on to any other discussion, i want to clear and lock this text. Once this is agreed upon , we will move forward. final text proposal. Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Chest armor is painted gloss white to match visual references. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required. Back armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor, shin and arm armor. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.

troopers we are off track. While the discussion IS necessary, we need to focus back to the CRL text dicussion. We are now officially off in the weeds. This is why we go one item at atime. One item, once bullet point, one discussion.

Sorry I'm late to the party. I came here as I was originally under the impression it was an officer tunic as the length and the collar sort of gave it away. There wasn't enough contrast in the still in my reference to see any pockets and such so that's where I based my assumption. Going by the bts pics though we can see its the Aldani shirt. I agree with the sentiment though of having the pockets level 2. They are covered and not visible in any frames of the show from what I can see. I am personally not a fan of verbose crls (where it's unnecessary) that give gmls more opportunities to push people back. In my humble opinion I do believe the points should be seperate to what's seen and what was "behind the scenes". Similar to the boba fett scuba harness situation. If people can make/source basic tunics at a more affordable rate as to not exclude them I'm all for it, and those who want to make it exactly can go the extra mile to have the pockets. I'll try and participate in the discussion a little more moving forward as I missed this while designing the armour. Thanks

Good call Jarred thanks for posting that! Ill make that change. So, without rewriting all the text, a simple removal and change here and on the chest and back armor text will suffice: Chest Plate: Chest shall be painted gloss white to match helmet and back armor. Back Plate: Back plate is painted to match the chest, armor and helmet arms and shin armor.

I think it sounds good with the following: Back Armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle, and recessed box color. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box.