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the files are now done, i have started printing them. I am still waiting on soft parts from the seamstress extrordinaire

For those not yet aware I’m basing this discovery on photos of screen used armor, as well as several Lucasfilm licensed action figures, statues, ect. Every single example I can find in-fact. Remember Lucasfilm does 3D scans of characters in costume then supplies them directly to companies like Hasbro for creating action figures and such. Anovos would have also received the same 3D scans for creating these promotional statues for the release of Rogue One, not to mention the Death Trooper armor prototype they advertised but never produced. This is all we can see of the Kidney plate on the Anovos statue which Jintalol has replicated very accurately! 👌 However we know there is another trapezoidal shape at the top of the kidney plate, hidden under the backplate overlap. It tapers outwards because we can see it on the screen used armor. There is also a wider groove separating this hidden trapezoid overlap from the rest of the kidney plate. This same shape from the Helmet also appears to be on the hidden trapezoid. Every example I can find of this trapezoid overlap exposed has this exact detail on the right side. There are even more examples of this but I will not post them all here. You can also see the angle of the trapezoid aligns with the grooves on the upper back plate in every example. So we use the grooves on the Anovos statue as a reference angle. Anyways this is one of the main constructive criticisms I had for this armor if you can even call it that, and even then it was only due to a lack of information. Which I was well prepared with because I had already done my research and was in contact with another owner of one of these Anovos statues for many years prior to this. His main concern that prevented him from creating armor with it was these unseen overlapping areas. Jintalol has already captured any details in the Bicep/Shoulder Bell overlap, and the Abdomen/Chest overlap perfectly which were the only other two overlapping areas of concern.

I’ll step in and debunk that actually, the armour on both seasons has always been matte black, not green in any way, to the point that on set we were issued cans of matte black for touch ups and scuffs, hycote matte black if I remember correctly

Those arms look waaaay better! l actually think w that that look it might be worth knocking down/smoothing out the chest/back and possibly knees/TD/belt (hard to make those out in the new pics). Good work!

Just as a note, measurements are only for reference and proportion basing when they are in the L1 details of the text. Specific branded gear/items are usually relegated to the L2 details as a detachment detail and not a basis for basic approval. Checking into the "Flyye" text, the mention was for what NOT to use, rather than what to use.

Ahhh, I'm not sure the humidity has much to do with the orange peel at the moment other than it drying too quickly on the way to the helmet. Have you warmed up your cans before application? You can run the can under warm water in addition to shaking it. You'll want the surface wet with paint but not too wet so that it drips/runs. I think the warming of the can will help.

Thanks for the advice, the shoulders, biceps, & forearms have been redone to match the blended look of the references. I took an overall shot of everything, please let me know if anything else looks like it needs a repaint. I've got to replace the "nose" of the boots still and repaint the boot shaft but I think it's really getting there!

The fight suit would be the trickiest part of this potential CRL, as unlike the "Shatterpoint" troopers, the primary artwork here shows a flightsuit that is inconsistent with the sculpts, and with established Inferno flight suits. I would suggest that for now we won't be returning to this "Legion" version until we know where we're going with the "Shatterpoint" one that is currently under consideration.

No need to apologise, nothing missed 🙂 It's with our friends in the LMO team at the moment, so we'll post here once a decision has been made.

Looks pretty good to me! Good luck Antonio!

I agree with this, we don't want to over engineer this. Since we use "can" (although "may" would probably be better here) we should keep it in there. Some users use straps to keep it from flaring out. Since it'll be a can/may statement, it'll have no impact.

Whelp here I am 2 hours later and I've officially submitted! Here's my photos for y'all to look at as well.

I found the base for the chest comm and decided to order it instead of printing it. I have the add ons already printed aswell. for the second black belt. Is it leather or another material? Edit: It looks like the mud trooper belt but with different boxes? I’m not very familiar with the mud trooper so I might be mistaken and I am still researching the boots

I got them from Ople probs. You can get the lenses and the perforated grille there. I've ordered some again for my new helmet. I can show you some pictures. Nice Pic 😉

Here is what I have so far. I have alot of printing to do but once done this kit is going to look awesome! Chest & Back armor- http://mudtrooper.co.uk/ (link broken) STL Shoulder bells-NTX3D Shoretrooper STL Biceps- NTX3D Shoretrooper STL Gauntlets- Unknown Shins- http://mudtrooper.co.uk/ (link broken) STL Top white belt- Buckle-Darman Props, Belt to be made by me Main belt boxes- Bailey builds designs Secondary Belt- Unknown Tunic & Pants- Jim Tripon Boots- Unknown Boot Armor- Uknown Gloves- Endor Finders Chest Comm- CGSProps (Etsy) STL

In the design of the vacuum mold, the structure of the groove requires the thickness of the material. The ABS material will enter the groove. I use 2mm of ABS, and after stretching, approximately 3.6mm of ABS will enter the groove. Therefore, the vacuum molds you can see will have wider grooves. Only in this way can you obtain the relatively correct vacuum parts.

Absolutely, the FLYYE vests have been specified as inaccurate for a long time now. My earlier point on measurements was more a wider point about trying to slim the CRL text down a little, which we've been trying to do here where we can. I've lost count of the number of members I've tried to sell on an Inferno only for them to scrap the idea after 5 seconds of scrolling down the CRL text. So if we can take some of the extraneous parts out, especially where they are already readily available here on the forums, I think that can only be a benefit.

Oh yeah that would make sense I just read it wrong

Thanks, will do this weekend! Close up photos of the knees are at the end of the last page, they're in the same style as I did these ones so they should match.

Based on Henry's suggestion, I made some upgrades. This is a new back waist mold with some invisible details.

NOTE: This costume has NOT been placed by Legion Membership Officer (LMOs) at this point. It is not guaranteed to be placed within the Special Operations detachment. Use this thread for the ISB Tactical Agent (Andor S2). Now, that I got that out of the way the trooper type/name is confirmed from the official Star Wars Databank under Sergeant Benzi and Sergeant Gharial:

Clear silicone and black oil paint ordered to sort the shoulder straps.. Have all the Velcro , webbing and snaps id need and will get some more adhesive felt for the inside faces of the armour and then clear out the buckle space

I feel like the gradients are A LOT smoother there!

Never tried warming the cans, but will try that right away... I'm anxious to get approved! Thanks for that!

That sounds great. I am really interested in ordering a full death trooper kit from you including the soft parts + specialist equipment. Could you post some pictures of the soft parts? And maybe pictures of someone wearing the full set that we can order? Also is no measurement needed for the undersuit? Best regards

Great tip, Ryan Thanks

First time poster (oof) any I agree with the thought that the uniform should be more brown leaning with green undertones. Mina Rau has been confirmed to be the same uniform and with that we see the majority of the troopers wearing brown. From people on set saying the color of the uniform and the bts shots we know the actual color. The issue is of course the color grading, which we’ve seen two shades. I suggest we go with the closer shade of the uniform (mina-rau brown). Green would of course still be acceptable seeing how many troopers have noticeably greener hats, but the goal should be a more feldgrau brown.

I’ve identified the gloves as the ones that the Shoretroopers use and I happened to own a pair so I have that and the hand plates printed. Also have the belt leather, the white dye (will be here tomorrow), the chest comm base (on order). The comm add ons printed and the right shoulder currently printing.

order placed for armour and helmet

@IcyTrooper @Dropkick Everything is good to go for my Weir save.... the bucket paint. I've been playing with this on and off for the last three months! It's still cold with high humidity here in Ottawa, and I am still seeing orange peeling. Any advice on this? (Just wait for hotter weather? I don't have a heated place to paint indoors...)

Currently WIP for a shadow scout costume. This is both my first shadow scout and my first costume ever. I am super excited. What i got left is I need to attach the detonator (just the 2 zip ties) and the holster to the boot just the 4 rivets. For the shoulder bells any recommendations for keeping the bells from drooping away if I decide to not attach them to the chest/back armor at the seam (Tstrap assembly). Sorry for low quality image. The 500kb is a bit limiting xD I'll try in higher resolution. Lastly any initial thoughts on looks? Thanks in advance!!

You´re welcome, that is why we are here - to help, and yes cardboard works fine, I wrapped mine with lots of gaffa tape to make them more sturdy and "waterproof" LOL Yes, I have foam on my knee armor, due to the same problem, as long as it is not noticeable.

Hi Welcome 😊 You´re on the right track -the pics are a bit blurry for me to see the details, but nice work so far. The CRL for this costume is found here : Costuming:TX shadow scout - 501st Legion Databank It is a good thing to go point by point As to the shoulder bells, the elastic around the upper arm should hold them in place, but from my own experience it is not enough - velcro on the flakvest sleeve could do the trick, but I would recommend you to use the t-strap (elastic) at the shoulder bridge loops for security, then you´ll not loose them. Your pouches will need some filling as they do not hang loose like the snowtroopers does. Most use some sort of stabil insert box for them. You´re almost there 😉

Here is my WIP

That's very reassuring! I'm hoping my GML's agree with you!

Replacement hemispheres were ordered from Walts. Flightsuit, boots and gloves were ordered from and delivered from Crow Props. Time to get moving again. The appropriate chest rig seems somewhat difficult to source ?

Very nice! I'm not seeing anything that stands out which would prevent approval @Blackwatch and @tipperaryred what say of you?

Thanks for adding those references on it. The helmet shape and general features I agree look the same. That little outline around the triangle is peculiar to me in that it appears to be a satin gray, but I think that it is just the lighting. I'm good with the text remaining "white" for the outline.

My replacement leather arrived today! Finishing up assembling what I needed and I should be ready for submission photos in about 2 hours or so

Apologies, here ya go:

ISB Tactical Agent - Generic ISB Tactical Agent - Sergeant Benzi ISB Tactical Agent - Sergeant Gharial PICTURES HERE

Awesome, can’t tell on yours, but respirators have a darker inner, kinda like this: Also the middle screw is brass, just in case!

Hello again. Once again I apologise for my absence. I was away in Australia for all of April, which meant no progress could happen, but I did meet and troop with the Desert Scorpion Garrison (although I was trooping through the RL) Anyways now that I've been home for a few weeks I can continue. First I bought some bigger gloves (no photos yet), and I ordered some CrowProp Mudtrooper boots, these would be my 4th set of boots I've purchased from them, if anyone's been considering them, well there's your testimony. I've also been working more on that groove on the back plate, I refuse to be beaten! Some things I have photos of. I bought the paint @minimo recommended and got the goggles and tusks painted Obvious flaw is they're not flawless yet, but once I've painted everything else, I'll get them weathered. Going back to my blaster of choice. When looking at the CRL for the E-10 I decided to add the M4 x 25mm screws, but I'd like to check to see if these are acceptable?

I'm also eyeing Jinta, and didn't want to risk buying the DT without seeing another's experience. To quote a Sith: "We will watch your career with great interest."

That would be great! I am also planning on ordering a Jinta Death trooper armor kit and i am really curious how the Quality is. There seems to be no one else with a Death Trooper kit from Jinta, so i have no idea if its a waste of money.

While we wait for Kevin, it is worthwhile jumping back into the grunt CRL. As Saxon's text is now complete, I have copied and pasted it above, and we can go through it item by item in the usual fashion. Starting as usual with the helmet, here is Gar Saxon's text as a starting point: Helmet Imperial Mandalorian Super Commando style helmet, matching visual references from Star Wars Rebel animated series. Helmet should be painted and weathered to match references. Weathering/chipping of the white paint should match the light grey paint used elsewhere on the helmet. Helmet dome and face plate to be painted red as per references. Rear plate, raised rear panel detailing, the upper cheek plates, left ear plate and teeth must be painted light grey as per references. Helmet dome and face plate, lower cheek plates, raised rear panel, must be painted white (or a lighter shade of grey), as per references. Additional detailing on rear plate must be painted white. The ear caps and antennae may be painted light grey or a weathered white. All recessed panel lines are black or dark grey. There is an inverted white outlined red triangle with a white outline in the center of the forehead. This should be painted. A weathered decal may be acceptable if achieving the look of having been painted. Both visor pieces are black, and obscure the wearer's face. The lower visor tapers in slightly to its narrowest point at the bottom. The left ear cap is oval, with a raised circular detail at the top, and a slightly tapered antenna with a circular profile. The right ear cap is angled at the top, with a narrower half oval at the base. There is an angled recessed panel line in the bottom right corner of the cap. The cap has a raised circular detail at the top, and two antennae. The rear antenna matches that on the left side, while the front antenna is significantly taller. Twin recessed panel lines (1 & 2) run around the upper visor, angle up over the ear pieces, and join together in horizontal lines across the back of the helmet. A third panel line (3) runs parallel and just above the upper of these two lines (2), joined to this same upper panel line at both ends, and running horizontally across the central portion of the rear of the helmet. The distance between 2 and 3 is approximately half the distance between lines 1 and 2 at the rear of the helmet. Additional panel lines vertically bisect each ear plate, and run around their edges. The rear bottom lip of the helmet has a raised, curved rim, running between the rear edges of each ear plate. The back plate has a raised rectangular panel with details to match references. These are long vertical oblongs on both sides, a circle in the lower center, and a double striped rectangle within another rectangle in the upper center. Details are outlined by recessed panel lines. The back plate is light grey, but has white detailing painted on either side of the raised rectangular panel. There are six teeth, three on each side of the lower visor, with the recesses painted black or dark grey. I will take some additional high resolution screens grabs to supplement our reference images, but all of the existing images seem to point to this helmet being identical to that worn by Gar Saxon. The only difference being that the dome and face plate of the helmet is painted white on the grunt, in place of the red paint seen on Saxon's helmet. I have not yet been able to spot any other difference.

Hello ! Well I'm a TX at last !!! Been approved last week-end and just found out today so I'm sharing it with you A good post to say also I didn't give up in any way my planned "finishing" accuracy work on my Del uniform. Ammo Vest is almost done (yea it's taking weeks and months now but I'm doing the best I can.. Got a life too ) and so.. Almost ready for final full body shot Hope to go back here very soon with some interesting pics ! Wanted to add also, I might have a couple of stuff to submit in the CRL thread such as helmet "mouth" color And helmet inferno & imperial decals size.. Here it is ! See you !