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We are now live: https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:Imperial_security_trooper

Thanks to all involved developing this crl!

Excellent, good to have the clarity on the name. We'll need to put together some decent screen grabs to prove it, but it would largely appear to be an unarmoured Imperial Security Trooper wearing the white ISB tactical armour. Similarly we see an ISB officer being given some of the same armour (the torso armour) to wear over their ISB tunic. I would therefore be surprised if the placement didn't follow those of the pre-existing underlying costumes. Specifically the ISB Tactical Agent to SpecOps to join the underlying Imperial Security Trooper costume; and the Armoured ISB Officer to IOC to join the ISB uniforms (eg. Dedra). The same logic was used with the Star Wars Rebels armoured ISB officers such as Kallus, who wore their armour over their officers' tunics and were subsequently placed with IOC. If this is how it plays out, the only minor complication would be that the torso armour needs to be consistent across the two costumes. I'm sure however that we'll have no trouble coordinating that if that is the direction that the LMOs decide on.

Going to chip in, for those that don’t know me I’m Will 10 year legion member and a film and TV costume assistant, I was the costumer in charge of most things uniform on season 1 and 2 of Andor, most of the hard work has been done by the crl team and other contributors like my friend Fraiser etc, but if there are any other outlying things I’m happy to see if I can be of any help. there’s actually a few more than the door guard that had E-11’s, a few of the patrolling troopers outside the base and I believe most of the troopers that escort Sgt Kimzi into the vault when they catch the heist in progress (including Kimzi) I may as well get ahead of the curve as I’ve already seen people discussing it elsewhere, the mina-rau soldiers are the exact same uniforms form Aldhani, people are speculating they’re a new browner version however it’s just the colour grading, though I understand discussions still need to be had as obvious going off “screen accuracy” they look different even if they were the same uniforms from before. some of them have the new addition of the goggles which are the helmet goggles that have been reduced in size.

Note to start, using this as the start of the build thread, got contact going with Walt's Trooper Factory to figure out the source for the armor/helmet. No pictures yet, will update with such once I get started.

These are today's vacuum work.

The digital repair of the chest and back armor has been completed.

This is a vacuum test for the thighs and buttocks. I think it looks pretty good.

The CRL has been officially submitted to the LMOs for final review with the text and images in the wiki.

NOTE: This costume has NOT been placed by Legion Membership Officer (LMOs) at this point. It is not guaranteed to be placed within the Special Operations detachment. Use this thread for the ISB Tactical Agent (Andor S2). Now, that I got that out of the way the trooper type/name is confirmed from the official Star Wars Databank under Sergeant Benzi and Sergeant Gharial:

the files are now done, i have started printing them. I am still waiting on soft parts from the seamstress extrordinaire

Worked pretty hard on the Imperial Army Trooper armor today because it was so nice out. Lots of sanding, filling, and painting. This is for my friend Nathan Gamer. Everything 3d printed in ABS and TPU for straps, respiratory mask, and goggle padding.

Hello, in order to have the shields and baton holster included in the CRL, I would like to open a conversation to achieve it. After watching the episode several times, mainly to obtain the appropriate screenshots, there are a couple of things that stand out to me, as I am sure to many of you. The first of all is that they received advice regarding the use of the different items and how the stunts had to act as riot police. What's more, due to the high "physical" and action content of the episode,even though they are acting, the shields received a harsh treatment and they probably also had received advice regarding the materials and props necessary to give credibility to the scene. In order to have a professional point of view regarding this matter, I have requested opinions from professionals in the police field, and they agree that due to positioning, use of containment tactics, withdrawal and arrest, the stunts have been minimally trained. Regarding as it seems to be ,the material used, both, the holster of the extendable baton and the large shields, maybe it is material for police use, minimally modified to give a "star wars" appearance, as usual ,or custom made meeting the approximate specifications and standards of this kind of pólice material. I have received information about measurements, shapes and materials from various sources... and also carried out searches , what is more I was lucky enought to carry some. https://www.nidec.es/es/escudos-antidisturbios Regarding the baton holster, it is a small item with very little visual impact on the screen so it shouldn't have been very complicated to go for something simple. Several of the riot police who I´d shared the screenshots agreed that it was probably a simple glove holder. Sample: https://www.desenfunda.com/porta-guante-giratorio-en-cuero-parabellum-95165-pa-95165-209699.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiApsm7BhBZEiwAvIu2Xy2Ka5lGoW-2lLydRs9xaMAEuJcVEEY3-O7PXiZlhUItskAKjFS7YhoCWIoQAvD_BwE&utm_source=adtraction&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=adtraction&at_gd=90C7B9B01E546FEAAEDFD926DACA08011DCA9775 To me it seems like that, is very common and easy to obtain police equipment ,or maybe custom made as I said. There are very few clear shots of this item since it is a black item on a black background...in motion...in fact the closest and clearest one we have is during the confrontation , of one belt falling.... SCREENSHOTS: The shield is more complicated , they are objects of great visual impact, close-up filming and surely in the storyboard they were well represented, also on a practical level it is an action scene and should withstand harsh filming conditions. SEE HOW IT BENDS An item with these characteristics must be based on a real model or a real one. I would consider various options: A/Produce the item from scratch in the prop department , or request it to be manufactured and give it the final finish in the studio. B/Buy items with similar characteristics to those needed and modify them until their final form , ¿Second-hand police equipment?. C/Search the studio's wardrobe and props collection for the items they need and modify them ,a fairly common thing. As I have already indicated, after watching the episode several times, I highly doubt that they are resin cast (a common in shields), they receive an amount of "damage" that brings them closer to modified real shields or shields built from scratch but with the same materials than a real one ,in short, we are talking about plastics. After having reached the final design, they can easily have ordered the necessary sheets from any company that works with polycarbonate, with the shape cut, folded, and the geometric pattern already milled or engraved. Doing the finish painting and putting the handles in the studio's prop workshop , regarding whether this can be done. I have also been talking about it with an advertising printing production technician , and he let me know that any large format printing press company dedicated to advertising , usually has the necessary machines for die cutting, bending and machining, methacrylates, ABS, forex, polycarbonate, etc... .. https://www.brettmartin.com/images/default-source/plastic-sheets/industry-case-study-images/application-spotlight-images/fabrication-spotlight-1-police-riot-shield-600x350536b1923-1dd9-4445-9b6d-885aaeced6c2.jpg?sfvrsn=61fcc077_15 https://www.brettmartin.com/ Obviously it's my opinion and I'm opening this thread to get more points of view, it would be great to have first hand information from someone who was on set. there are 16 large shields and 4 small shields. The width of the front part seems to be the same measurement, however on the large shield the "wings" seem larger and with fewer degrees. The height of the small shield seems to be the size of the large one WITHOUT the "window", in such a way that the geometric shape could use the same template for both, adding the small "wiew slot". Using chatgpt ,with the measuraments of the my buckle as a reference of a real item and superimposing a layer on the most complete photographs and then leaving only that layer: SCREENSHOTS: On the back there are not many screenshots available, but there are enough of the support elements that must be assumed common for the two shields and it is clearly seen that apart from the handles, the foam/forex, are painted in black. the handles on the left look like a kayak ones: https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Kayaks-correas-moldeadas-extremo-paquete/dp/B009DF8PIC/ref=sr_1_4?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ivbQnwpozrpCiX3bxGAUn0wgZhqjR4H_M-x6sGJMUiVqRSo2GZDHX0xF_i6fSJmKpepCtL4xZ-WLMyQDFSTrPcDVF9_1e2XMdSST5nvEzfznmLIf29eAJR1P3efXh_jPah9Qg8Sme4I_TPbzR5YlcXRrGvU3k-HkIAghdAvmYkEPImuqXJ8qYxjk3ZnBi0BlOzMBT52gdbbY3yN-q7cSOfpPu-rmqA0ZGMvvPUyNJxEBoxtQCDb0xI4Xs4asELSP26DypOUCzQxQ6InxVcmYkFtN_-QgBKA4jN8AFfB12d93IWMRdOJ9xsQgqI7fAsXetMiebpXfcce1skwmec4NBTXoz60J6CadTskQZzCv1uFijx6NOAFWonHen8V-xPt1G0woIbWQMR7LJw0mSPnerXuASiGdv-E1w0_8RdEyNzCrBg8dpRcBVrjkF9IoeXLn.q3yknZ7_RJ51Pkv74CypE2oe4UyrNyPEK4TDk3KRx_Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=kayak+handles&qid=1737135103&sr=8-4 The handles on the right look something like this : https://www.amazon.com/-/es/tiradores-cuadrados-plástico-gabinete-equipaje/dp/B07YCGWBBM/ref=sr_1_8?__mk_es_US=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=18TZLCQZITBKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.J59q79WhD6nDUH7LKN6CJ549WYEBc8zn0N6e3POaGcizcZTvXsCKAVIJiakJdMwtrZFjHyAiVICToRIjon972qukfr1tNz2G3Q1ff11GJRrgaExsafiyT-0Cvzp-M7R8CVBgxh9LVjK6VRlkmmZB-M7hLGYWAZAhfOF8tuOuoJkk6RYFY_p4lvOUaVZ-Clc2DncE9b17YymM6hcq4_nEhR_iOKJDbIrWsFmOs752a9RglTNzzpLYRLFTqa3VReisCUQrbUXYGC_9PvA1Wn4NSqPfT4ENMdtgi1QYiQWm0xnrv2Pji4Dtch9kKuuP_fmfVqjt-p5pSrqArtroodHXiKDahpgiWCy4VqBVJcT3BEGXBc6Y_uvoa-nFhVXR7fp7ciUMPvCJ-ogbXt2GtZqRZc6b4dZTHJ7rRpNKoNY66qEEPTz2eDwVKm2n0BAtQYzX.arjk57vTrwMOmFVQSro4ycKmQAmzlBtXyx7MZWxP4WM&dib_tag=se&keywords=plastic+black+handles&qid=1737135532&sprefix=plastic+black+handles%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-8 SCREENSHOTS: EDGES AND MAYBE LAYERS? In my opinion they are two constructions of 2 millimeter polycarbonate or something similar, composed of two layers. One of the layers (the one on the back) with the high-density foam/forex supports, with the handles attached ,another layer (the one on the front) with the engraving, the two layers attached with glue and painted black. In the case of the large shield and since it is the first line, everything is also joined together by the 4 screws that can be seen. I await your ideas and/or opinions. As soon as we agree on some measurements and some details, I can make them.I have embedded the photos in the forum to the best of my ability/knowledge.Sorry for my use of English, I hope all the text is understandable, I'm a little rusty. If the moderators consider it appropriate to move this post to another thread, let them do so. Likewise, I can provide moderators access to a folder with the screenshots in case they consider it appropriate to upload them to the thread. Greetings.

just wanted to give an update, i am just awaiting the soft parts to be finished so i can get started on building the kit. i am still 100% committed to the build, just unfortunately, i suck at sewing, so have to rely on the talents of others

Boots done! What do you guys think? Action pose:

This is a composite ribbed fabric with a thickness of 5mm. I added Velcro to it and it perfectly blends with the leg armor.

Since my approval years ago I see that the CRL changed and update the TU for the helmet. I searched around and found the WTF was able to provide one for me...but it's awful. The quality of the resin case was very bad and the scale seemed off compared to the CRL photos.... So I've modeled my own for 3d printing and I'm giving the files away. If you spot any glaring inaccuracies, I'm willing to try to fix it or share the fusion source. Merry Christmas! nocjef TX66667 IATCommUnit.3mf

With great satisfaction I inform you that my Mudtrooper has been approved by my Garrison! Thanks to everyone for the support!!! I made this costume trying to meet all the requirements to be a "Specialist", I hope I will succeed. In a few days I will forward the request in the appropriate section of the forum...

Well... I think this journey is pretty much over 🥲 Thank you so much for your support ❤️ Today I sent the photos to my Garrison GMLs for approval. Here are some oh them showing the full costume and weathering. I hope it will be approved as is, otherwise I will make the changes they ask me...

This is awesome. Thanks everyone for the work in getting this to the finish line.

We received the new images last night and are editing them. LMOs are standing by for our upload. Very close everyone.

Thanks for all the great job. Can't wait to see all this photos at you wip BigJasoni

Good news, the LMOs have approved this as a NTTL costume for placement with us, we can continue the CRL development and costume refinements!

Hello all Whiel teresa is workign on pans, i did a few more modifacations to the chest, belt, and gauntlets. How we looking?

I'm back! Lately I've had a lot to do and little time to dedicate to the Muddie, also a lot of the work was gathering informations, taking measurements, strengthening some pieces, adding snaps. In short, little that could be photographed. But I finally got to painting! On the inside of all the pieces I applied a dense primer in order to seal the fiberglass (one of those products that take forever to dry 😨). On the external side I applied two layers of a gray universal primer: Note that the upper belt is missing because the one I received from Philoprops is already painted and with partial weathering. As a second phase I applied two layers of matt black paint: In a few days I will apply the texture on the helmet, and then proceed with painting all the pieces with Pantone 350U green. In the meantime I decided to take care of the respirator. Here are the parts I will use: - Straps, two-piece buckles and 4mm hex socket cap screws provided by a friend of mine from the 501st Italica Garrison, who became a Mudtrooper before me - other buckles taken from the famous Yugoslavian backpack (they have rusted a little, and I would say this is a very good thing 🥰) - Isopon Aluminum mesh to put in the filters and in front of the mouth - disks that I cut out of a forex panel to close the filters internally. In the next post I think I will be able to show the respirator almost finished and ready for weathering!

As far as 3d print files Christhepropguy has the most accurate files. His kenobi clone trooper is very accurate witch is the same armor. If you buy those files and message chris he will give you the purge trooper specific parts aswell. Definitely get the helmet from kenyon. He is the only one who has a totally accurate helmet.

Hey all. Ive been reading back. And have a whack of pics myself. as I’m sewing these funky pants, I have some concerns on text to construction. As well as any concessions on seaming on the rear end. seams- double lapped. With only single seam. There are no center inner or outer leg seams. Only those on the inner panel portion of both front and back. . And circumference around top of knee. Nothing runs down the center outer leg. Nor center inner leg. The little butt panel, I need to discuss this with those judges allowing the construction. Pics I see have no crotch seam or one boing up the rear end. That’s a bit problematic especially if you’d like a nice sleek bum looking fit… ha! I messaged both Daniel and Ryan for a real time phone conversation regarding this color- pale grey for Saxon. White or winter white for the grunts. fabric- some form of mid to heavy weight cotton/spandex/lycra blend. Stretch cotton twill. Heavy weight stretch suiting. I've made 4 pairs of pants thus far and cannot create a nice looking arse with no seam under crotch. I await messages from those in charge of this CRL. Thank you!!!!

Here's day 2. Not fully assembled and strapped yet, but it's looking great! Mask, goggle pad, and straps are 3d printed in TPU. The rest is ABS.

The vacuum helmet is almost completed.

Hello, just seeing this. I know I'm late, but I have both a completed MonCal helmet and a second hand Anovos helmet. The Anovos one looks glossier and has some extra painted details, but I feel the MonCal is better built and sturdier. As an additional difference, the Anovos comes with mirrored stunt lenses that I couldn't get with my MonCal built helmet. I'm still working on a MonCal Shadow Trooper armor kit for approval. Going to do Shadow Trooper and Battlefront Shadow Trooper, so I'll be using both helmets with differences as required by CRLs of course.

my armor maker sent me a bit plastic plate to cut to fit to make the bridge. it should match sheen etc for the two components. It can be seen mostl from behind as Del walks by the viewers perspective. A heavy duty slab of velcro would hold it in place thats how my local Idens is put together, shes got heavy duty 2 inch velcro front and back to close it up.

Similar to Ryan, I use military helmet padding. I've gotten what Ryan's linked which works great, but after some testing i personally preferred these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C5CKP597?ie=UTF8&th=1 Either would work great, imo.

Thanks! I'll talk with the GML who will be handling my submission and let them know your thoughts. I appreciate it!

@RAIDER thank you bud. I hadn't attached it and won't. Earlier in the thread we were unclear whether it referred to the greeblie, or the "thin line decal" that passes over the tank. (I accidently broke my tank greeblie and would have had to print a new one, so this is good news!)

I suppose that I should post a picture of the approved costume:

I know there is a vendor on Etsy that sold them, called Spatcave. https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1430704966/imperial-army-trooper-web-harness Listing says sold out, but might be worth a go message him?

I am conducting vacuum mold testing for helmets, assembling them simply. I use ABS vacuum to make the outer shell of the helmet and use resin to create details. It looks good, but it still needs some optimization.

I added the darker green, brown, and dyed most of the components. The armor just needs some black detail, a black wash, and to reapply the decals. The dye didn't really take to some items so I'm planning to pick up some new webbing/etc. Happy holidays!

that is very exciting that all the files have been given the green light. i will start printing them today to move on to next stage of it all

These are the attachments of the thighs, and their performance is also good.

The fifth version of the helmet mold has been completed and is ready for production. I hope it can be successful this time 😄

This is the front mold for the waist, which took me 9 hours to rebuild. The sudden drop in temperature caused the failure of thigh mold printing, and it needs to continue to work hard.

Hello again! So sorry about that delay! I have tested everything to make sure it's working again and it should be. Please work through the steps in the link below and we'll get you your access shortly! Thank you for dealing with my technical difficulties and bringing it to our attention. 🙂 -

A lot of the same vendors who do regular stormtrooper kits have helmets, if you have the black paint to match the armor. Anovos (second hand, eBay) Denuo Novo (US) Walt's Trooper Factory (US) Authentic Props (AP, Canada) RS Prop Masters (UK) RWA Creations (UK) RT-Mod (Canada) Armor Master (AM, US) MTK now sold by Imperial Surplus (US)

Another licensed product (Star Wars Shatterpoint, published by Atomic Mass Games) has now confirmed the presence of a generic Inferno style trooper in the Star Wars universe. This trooper is also titled "Imperial Special Forces", consistent with their appearance in Star Wars Legion, published by Fantasy Flight Games. The above artwork is much clearer and less stylised than that which appears in Star Wars Legion artwork, so I would propose using this as the primary visual reference for a NTTL CRL application. The artwork shows two troopers, with the one on the right wearing a modified "squad leader" style shoulder pauldron. If approved, we could either create a "version 2" including the pauldron, or we could simply include the pauldron as an "optional" aspect of this costume. Additional detail is provided by 360 degree visual references for the models, published online by the licensed publisher: https://www.atomicmassgames.com/character/today-the-rebellion-dies-squad-pack/ There are also a number of other published photos showed the physical models painted by the publisher's team. Between these photos and the 360 degree visual references, any gaps in the primary visual reference would seem to be more than covered. The combined visual references above provide a full and detailed look at each costume part that makes up this costume. The following costume parts are entirely consistent with the following parts already described in detail in our Inferno Squad - Del Meeko CRL: Helmet. Flight Suit. Shoulder Patches. Torso Armour. Optional Chest Box. Compad (inferred from the Del Meeko artwork). Gloves. Holster. Boots. Optional E-11. The regular ISF trooper being proposed does NOT have the following parts of the Del Meeko CRL: Tactical Vest. Shoulder Ammo Pouch. Scout Over Belt. Scout Pouches. The remaining elements visible in our new references are fully consistent with those already described in the Inferno Squad - Commander Iden Versio CRL: Thermal Detonator. Ammo Belt - omitting Iden's drop boxes. I would therefore suggest using our existing Del Meeko CRL as the basis for this proposed NTTL CRL, with additional details drawn from the Iden Versio CRL. While much clearer than the artwork in Star Wars Legion, the artwork we would be drawing upon is still somewhat stylised. However the Legion has already created many high quality CRLs based on similar artwork in published comics. These include: 0-0-0 (TX) General Weir (TX) Lt Sunber (TX) Task Force 99 members (TX) 181st Fighter Group (TI) 181st Dress Uniform (TI) Baron Fel (TI) I would suggest streamlining the existing Del Meeko and Iden Versio text to omit detailing that is not readily visible in the stylised Shatterpoint artwork, particular as relates to highly specific Level 2 detail that was taken from the high resolution 3D models visible in Battlefront 2. This would ideally create the opportunity for a new "entry level" costume that is more accessible than the named Inferno characters, which would be particularly beneficial in drawing in new first time applicants. This new costume could be an excellent stepping stone towards the named Inferno characters for many new troopers.

Excellent build! Love all the attention to the detail. We’re looking forward to seeing you as Muddy specialist number 11! Keep up the great work. Love that hose to mask attachment, I may need to do that to mine as well.

Understood…and if the majority say roll with the flap we can do that I would only add that referencing what was done on the Swamp and the Shadow should prob be limited…those CRLs were created during a much looser time period in terms of CRL standards. The updates they went through (2020 I believe mahbe 2019) were almost like a transition…attempting to marry what we do now with what had already been done back then. If we had the opportunity to do another update, I actually think it would be to finalize that transition towards a more true-to-reference build and potentially even grandfather those CRLs as they are now…that would actually kill the 15 year plus debate on how much we need to align with the Pathfinders CRL. but I digress lol TL;DR I wouldnt reference the verbiage of the Shadow or Swampy as those really arent accurate to the references in several aspects.

Little update here Started adding the color touches on the flamethrower ^^

Huge thanks to everyone that assisted with this project. We had to rely on convention photos, behind the scenes insights, scale models and more to make up for the limited on screen references. Fantastic to see it complete.