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I squeezed out some time and am working hard to put the sample armor on the dummy, which is 190cm high.7 points
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And, here-we-go Hat text will begin with the base text for the Security Trooper Version 2, no armor, with hat. From our Security Trooper CRL: Hat — Version Two Fabric matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76.2mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Discussion: The hats are smaller at the top creating more of a truncated cone than in the past. Its subtle, but its there. The slope angle is slightly different. Another thing I note is that the disc greeblie does not look like the standard greeblie we have always used in the past. Its looks slighly smaller, and has a more significant step to it.7 points
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Hi Guys, Ive spent the past few weeks designing the moulds for the ISB. Theyre also available as files however Ive converted these parts into Vac forming moulds. Ill be posting progress here. First are the renders. If there is anything that catches your eye that should be changed please let me know. Ive done my best to extrapolate some stuff from blurry screen caps from Andor as well as get other info from similar parts like the mud trooper from other media. CC welcome. If anyone wants the files they can be found HERE.6 points
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Here is what we are looking at for the chest armor then: Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required.6 points
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thanks Sebastion and that proves a point I was going to make. Ive given model kit demonstrations on weatheirng to appear under studio lights. Models for movies like Star WArs and Battlestar Galactica was SUPER weathered just to show up on filmstock. Tarrif's white armor proves this. I feel that "Light to moderate weathering consistant with reference images is permitted" would be appropriate for L1 while "Moderate weathering consistant with reference images is required" Ive seen guys use those brownish paint marker sponge things and just dab it all over and the armor looks like a cheetah.5 points
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Our shoulder bells are so stealthy we don't need no stinkin' zip ties5 points
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before moving on to any other discussion, i want to clear and lock this text. Once this is agreed upon , we will move forward. final text proposal. Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Chest armor is painted gloss white to match visual references. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required. Back armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor, shin and arm armor. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.4 points
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Chest / back is now done and with the pauldrons and biceps attached. Had a lovely time hitting them with a brick to get some good distressed damage to them so the weathering takes better 🙂4 points
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I just did a test fitting (no kama yet) and let me tell you about weathering. You probably need some minor degree of weathering to make certain parts pop out. I don't think it should 100% clean. The actual tactical squad should probably have moderate weathering. What looks moderately weathered up close can look lightly (or not at all) weathered from 10 feet away in certain lighting.4 points
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Hi Guys, I am the DCA of the JRS that is responsible for the Infernos and have worked on the Inferno CRLs from the very beginning. It would be a pleasure for us to work together, as many members seek approval as Del and Hask, and so the CRLs in both detachments should be set up equally when it comes to all parts that can be used by both characters. After consultation with the current JRS CS, we are open to any cooperation. Dennis Opfermann TX/TI 508834 points
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I 100% agree on sanding. I had to do this for areas of my shadow stormtrooper years ago. Obviously, if it's been painted, then you'd need to strip that and see how the plastic, but since I was working with black ABS, sanding worked great. You want to sanding pads that essentially run up to like 12000 grit. Others may have recommendations for where to start, meaning you don't have to start at the lowest grit necessarily and work your way up. You may be able to start in the middle. What I would do is find a spot that you can sand the inside of the armor or a spare piece and go through stepping up the grit until you get to that gloss finish. I will also wax mine periodically with Maguire's. Worst case scenario is you can go the paint route in the end, but it can be tough to get it even. I had an auto body shop do a different set of armor pieces to get it right.4 points
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We've had a request to amend the CRL for the Imperial Army Trooper. I will keep this topic open until the end of the month, when it will be closed and discussed by Staff. Currently CRLs are not being updated due to ongoing maintenance and overhaul issues with the Legion CRL system, so we can discuss, but also have to wait our turn for publising anything. Please see this topic so we do not re-cover ground already discussed. Reference photos Reference Photos3 points
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I see what you mean now. I still think its being kept of the main body by some struts, we can see those here But I think you're right that the top barrel is still using its mount hardware on a picatinny. This is what I think we are seeing, and I hate it as a way to mount a scope. Here's my mock up. Pink being the picatinny in question, right side pink is a more printed friendly version I'll likely use.3 points
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Hi Raymond. I am not an expert on the Shadow trooper but am very familiar with the original trilogy stormtroopers. The male snaps in the photo are not part of the CRL but are used to hold the belt in place on the abdomen armor. They are not seen, nor are they required but I think almost every one uses this method to attach the belt. For the Thigh armor, the rivets used to attach the thigh ammo belt are usually split rivets with a cap size around 5/16 inch or 8 mm similar to these https://www.abbeyengland.com/bifurcated-rivet-nickel-plated-12-3-16-7-9-gauge-g04701 https://www.rivetsonline.com/rivets/split-rivets-bifurcated-rivets?srsltid=AfmBOooqXMY4LTpmaMbAm1SzdHwSU5fJxMZgQTJst9u_iMRrp9i5lNM6 For the holster connection to the belt, they are usually pop rivets but can be snaps or chicago screws or even the double cap rivets you have shown above. These would be similar to what was used on the CRL model https://www.amazon.com/ISPINNER-100pcs-Aluminum-Blind-Rivets/dp/B08KXJ969Y/ref=sr_1_7?crid=12NETAZBYCVTM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MgjFJAJYXFRF8tA45YieA49uDkCshp_ck6CAsBRBGBXmc71SUJt3EQXZfcqacnUsls_YQZAqjOV7EDVoBN7dwxFyToZFS33AZYTKIxYCoN74WaZOlpTkGoyce89w4x5f0fZvZWIDGrGulGQfTGH_kiDkOQBOPIFNldUEj_dhBXKsor6DRep2E6__WXeHacXCJ9ZdLm492vJmoJe6bq4ozGGRCqbICHmYuBEjJMDQrI0.eh_XeMAPlI116ZuEAcNiY0AeNoDTEjDMxqkDufQh1HY&dib_tag=se&keywords=7%2Bmm%2Bpop%2Brivet&qid=1750771805&sprefix=7mm%2Bpop%2Brivet%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-7&th=1 Hope this helps3 points
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Thank you Here's a comparison between the Inferno Helmet and the Rogue One Tie Pilot Helmet. You can see that the molds are totally different. The Inferno Helmet is also smaller as the Rogue One Helmet. The teeth sections are different and the Vocoder of the Rogue One Helmet is vacformed but for the Infernos it has to be a separate piece. The Trident and the sideburns looks different too. And on the back view you can see that the Mohawk Strip on the Inferno is not as wide as on the Rogue One Helmet.3 points
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I agree with the gallery, but this guy is far away from the camera, so a little hard to see any specific weathering: It'd be safe to allow for no weather or light to moderate weathering. Weathering is a very easy thing to mess up for people, it has to be done right. I feel like a requirement could prove to be an issue at a basic level (being overdone and we then have a burnt trooper that gets approved). My thoughts on that.3 points
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agreed. We shall proceed with the belief that these were reused from Season 1 without mofification. Change log 1.0 (Final text proposal) Tunic A long-sleeved, black jacket that falls just to mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons. Fabric is a plain weave cotton similar to duck canvas. Has a high mandarin style collar with a left-over-right closure that rises from the front of the tunic. The front closure overlaps left over right and rises from the hem at the bottom of the tunic to the top of the collar. Four rectangular pockets are present on the jacket front, covered by large flapped closures. Lower pockets are larger than the ones on the upper chest. Lower pocket seams rest on the same seam as the end of the tunic The rear of the jacket has a horizontal seam present near the upper back. Two vertical seams start below the horizontal upper back seam moving down the bottom of the jacket. Two black tunic hooks to hold the belt in place are permitted. If used, the hooks will pass from the inside of the tunic to the outside through holes on either side of the tunic at the hip. The belt covers the holes. One pocket is present on each arm of the jacket, each covered by large flapped closures. The top of the arm pocket flaps are in line with the top edge of the chest pockets. Cuffs on the sleeves are about mid-distance to the elbow. The material folds back on itself to form the cuff. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The front jacket flap will have rectangular stitch marks with a stitched X inside where Velcro is attached to keep the flap closed. Fabric has the appearance of waxed canvas or oilskin fabric. If left arm rank bars are present, the black fabric should be similar to duvetyn type of fabric and will have 3 equidistant horizontal stitch lines through each rank bar.3 points
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Costume Name: Imperial Death Trooper Helmet: - Jintaprops web site - www.jintaprops.com, Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/share/16Ri6TC1Qz/, email – 363276386@qq.com Armor: - Jintaprops web site - www.jintaprops.com, Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/share/16Ri6TC1Qz/, email – 363276386@qq.com Belt: - Jintaprops web site - www.jintaprops.com, Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/share/16Ri6TC1Qz/, email – 363276386@qq.com3 points
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Now that I look further into it, I think the IST one is probably better. There is a lot of verbiage from the Meero on that references pants, etc. We'd have to cut that back anyways and it'd most likely end up close to the IST one. @Blackwatch if possible, can you add the bullets going forward? That will keep the stuff in the direction we want when we get down to some other items that have extra levels of detail. I think this text is good for going forward: Hat Fabric matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76.2mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.3 points
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We are probably going to have variants, so if we identify specific sections where there are variations we can address them there. It is probably going to be like the Mudtrooper and others, but I'll let @Dropkick and @BlacXabbath answer that as DL/XO. @Blackwatch With that hat having a higher crown, you think that is something we can address in by adding more L2 items? We may want to pull from the Dedra Meero text for the hat so that we aren't reinventing the wheel? https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:Dedra_Meero3 points
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The Novatrooper Medic red has been identified as Kirsch Red from Sherwin Williams: SW6313. RGB Value: R-154 | G-70 | B-80. Pantone code: 696c. this should help. It is from the CRL.3 points
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Just by this picture alone, they're all different. This got me thinking, so I did a quick breakdown of the Troopers as they get off the Shuttle Ramp Trooper 1 "Benzi": Rank Stripe + Radio on the Right side of the Chest, Trooper 2: Chest Rig + Radio on the Left, Trooper 3: Different lower belt with no Chest Boxes + Radio on the Left (I think this might be the guy wearing a backpack?), Trooper 4: Chest Rig + Goggles + Backwards officer cap + Seemingly no Radio at all, Trooper 5: "Standard" + Radio on the left, Trooper 6: Missing Shoulder + Diagonal bag + Radio on the Right, Trooper 7: Beanie + Fanny Pack + Radio on the Right, Trooper 8 "Gharial": Chest Rig, Rank Stripe + Radio on the left The same configuration doesn't appear twice. I think the best approach is to do what IOC did with their CRLs for a while: If specific accessories are chosen, the whole costume is to match the appearance of a character from an LFL licensed source.2 points
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Good call Jarred thanks for posting that! Ill make that change. So, without rewriting all the text, a simple removal and change here and on the chest and back armor text will suffice: Chest Plate: Chest shall be painted gloss white to match helmet and back armor. Back Plate: Back plate is painted to match the chest, armor and helmet arms and shin armor.2 points
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Specifically, what changes are we talking? I'm a little confused. This is for the comic Imperial Army Trooper, not the Andor one.2 points
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As posted, there was a request to amend the CRL for the Imperial Army Trooper, with Blackwatch presenting links to older content and reference photos. I will be monitoring this discussion to discuss the possible changed that the members wanted to change. The post will stay open till the end of the month, so please let us know so we can actively discuss any changes. Blackskull2 points
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ive done a lot of plastic model sanding wth Micromesh polish abrasives up to 12000 grit, starting around 6000. I used to polish plastic model airplane canopies to clear from whatever waviness the factory molded the plastic in. Followed with a proper plastic polish after the sanding the results are amazing. it does take work, you wwork it wet (to keep it cool and remove the slurry) and it takes time but its amazing when done.2 points
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So jetzt noch ein Paar optionale Bilder von der Seitenpanzerung und von dem Blaster, der auch der Hot Toys Puppe entspricht. Von den Händen habe ich auch noch zwei Bilder gefunden. https://imgur.com/a/zBqhnXv So falls ich noch bei irgendwas helfen kann, einfach melden. Gruss Andreas2 points
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Für die Beine habe ich auch noch einige Bilder, aber diese sind bei mir wie alles andere auch zu 98 % von der Hot Toys Puppe https://imgur.com/a/biIihaE https://imgur.com/a/Y4XlrN82 points
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Bei den Gelenken ist es genauso, habe aus allen drei Vorgaben für mein Kostüm die praktischste Variante gewählt. https://imgur.com/a/g7KYfPz2 points
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I'd say just another version of this to include the riot helmet version. The riot shield would probably follow the weapons clause and be optional.2 points
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Yes, the text above mirrors the text for the earlier hats already described in other CRLs, so they will largely be able to be used interchangeably. And yes, the hat will certainly not be essential for all versions of this costume. There are a lot of part being swapped in and out, including the hat(s), goggles and tactical vests. For now we'll just work on getting each of those parts well described, and then we can finalise how exactly the CRL will be presented. We could go with a single CRL with a lot of "Optional" pieces, or a multi-part CRL using different "versions" as per the IAT and IST CRLs.2 points
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Considering that the joints were CGI'd, the way you have made your joints works. Impressive craftsmanship. We can fine tune the joints later, but I believe we are at a 98% solution for the joints.2 points
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----------FINALIZED TEXT GOES BELOW THIS LINE (THIS IS THE OFFICIAL TEXT FOR THE CRL DEVELOPMENT)------------ Description: Imperial Security Bureau Tactical Agent Prefix: TX Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment Context: Star Wars: Andor (TV Series) Costume description here Special Notes: The armor parts are gloss white, or as specified in each part description, and made from one of these (or similar) types of materials: Fiberglass ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene) HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene) PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing) Polyurethane Rubber 3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed. Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy. TEXT Hat Fabric matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76.2mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Tunic A long-sleeved, black jacket that falls just to mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons. Fabric is a plain weave cotton similar to duck canvas. Has a high mandarin style collar with a left-over-right closure that rises from the front of the tunic. The front closure overlaps left over right and rises from the hem at the bottom of the tunic to the top of the collar. Four rectangular pockets are present on the jacket front, covered by large flapped closures. Lower pockets are larger than the ones on the upper chest. Lower pocket seams rest on the same seam as the end of the tunic The rear of the jacket has a horizontal seam present near the upper back. Two vertical seams start below the horizontal upper back seam moving down the bottom of the jacket. Two black tunic hooks to hold the belt in place are permitted. If used, the hooks will pass from the inside of the tunic to the outside through holes on either side of the tunic at the hip. The belt covers the holes. One pocket is present on each arm of the jacket, each covered by large flapped closures. The top of the arm pocket flaps are in line with the top edge of the chest pockets. Cuffs on the sleeves are about mid-distance to the elbow. The material folds back on itself to form the cuff. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The front jacket flap will have rectangular stitch marks with a stitched X inside where Velcro is attached to keep the flap closed. Fabric has the appearance of waxed canvas or oilskin fabric. If left arm rank bars are present, the black fabric should be similar to duvetyn type of fabric and will have 3 equidistant horizontal stitch lines through each rank bar. Chest Armor Back Armor Shoulder Armor Bicep Armor Forearm Armor Hand Plates Gloves Upper Belt Lower Belt Hip Plates Trousers Shin armor Boots Optional parts Tac Vest Radio Blaster Goggles2 points
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I think an issue might be that hats always look different on people. It could be the same hat but because it's on a different person's head it is appearing different. I like the imperial hat description (i think you took from Meero's) because of the detail. It gives approximate dimensions which i like. Either work though.2 points
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So und jetzt noch ein kleines Video von meinen ersten Schritten. Muss ich noch ein wenig üben 🙂 https://imgur.com/a/sv70R70 Gruß Andreas2 points
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I'll have to look at the Facebook portion of the log-in, but it could be disabled on a security update. If you haven't logged in in awhile you'll have to use your email address and not your username. That was updated a few years ago as part of another security update.2 points
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Hallo Chaos Ich könnte meine noch von einigen Seiten Fotografieren und sie vermessen wenn es weiter hilft. Mein entspricht 1.1 der Hottoys https://imgur.com/a/HPvLTeC Gruß Andreas2 points
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That's great to hear Dennis. A key goal for us with this update has been to give builders a little more flexibility, so hopefully that will also be a benefit for those who want to clear multiple Inferno costumes across the two detachments. Please feel free to jump in with any feedback, or give any of us a message if you'd like any feedback over on the JRS boards.2 points
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I have caught up on a great deal of sewing! Guess what day it is!?!?!? Yep! It’s sexy white/gray pants day! 😊 Will keep Kevin posted.2 points