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There isn't a current CRL for this unit.

What's the height on those, and do you have a link?

We currently have two approved Imperial Army CRLs. They are: Imperial Army Trooper - https://databank.501...al_army_trooper (Will no longer be valid for approval after 7/22/2018) Imperial Army Engineer - https://databank.501...l_army_engineer Please note that the current Imperial Army Trooper CRL is inaccurate and does not have supporting references. The current Imperial Army Trooper CRL will no be valid for approval after 7/22/2018 and will be replaced by the accurate SW:E version on Monday 7/23/2018. The current list of in progress CRLs with supporting references are: Imperial Army Trooper (SW:E) - http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5797-new-crl-proposal-imperial-army-trooper-swe/ Imperial Army Combat Engineer - http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5715-crl-development-combat-engineer/ Lt. Janek "Tank" Sunber - http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5541-new-crl-proposal-lieutenant-janek-sunber-swe/ Imperial Army Officer - http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5832-new-crl-proposal-imperial-army-officer-various-sources/ The Mud Trooper (Solo: A Star Wars Story) - http://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5896-new-crl-development-mud-trooper/ We're excited to see the roster grow and have more troopers join our ranks! -iz

That picture is actually of the wrong units. That's Lt. Sunber, and the Combat engineer. Please only refer to the pictures attached to the first post of this thread that have been approved to be used with this unit, as not to cause confusion. As far as Jack boots go the guy behind this barrel is obviously wearing Jackboots: However seeing how the majority aren't, I'd like to see a solution in place for a more accurate boot like the majority of them are wearing, but still allowing the jack boot as an option.

This is probably the best one color wise. you can see that it's the same color as the pants.

Boots - We have exactly one reference showing this trooper wearing a jack boot style. The rest seem to be wearing an olive green 8"-9" laceless combat boot. I would like to propose that Jack boots be acceptable, but the Olive Green boots be required for level 2. Thoughts?

I have been pulling apart CRLs and speaking with the LMOs all day regarding the IA Trooper and getting other CRLs ready of have image updates. I'm going to take a break and probably promote this to a pinned thread tomorrow. I'll also upload ALL the panels showing this unit in the comics so people can have a better idea of the overall look. Big thing is going to be the size of the helmets. In some panels the helmets look larger than the normal trooper and is has hearing protection inside. Other panels, not so much. We'll need to come to a consensus. I would also like us to take another look at the boots. I'll be more specific when my eyes get a rest from staring at a screen. -iz

I'd agree. Most costumes that carry MP40 pouches in the Legion actually specify that canvas and leather are both acceptable.

That would be sweet.

Looks cool!

Heh Heh... You said "butt pocket." Sorry, had to relive my adolescence there.

When you do google searches with "flight suit" it can bring out options that may be used with modification similar to Coveralls or jumpsuit searches. That's why it's in there.

This is a work in progress and minor edits will be made until it is presented to the LMOs for approval: Change Log: 05/09 Added CRL with example pictures. Updated previous CRL Team write-up to include carryover items that were LMO requested additions to the IA Engineer CRL. 05/11 Added olive green boots as level 2 requirement.

WARNING - THIS CRL IS PENDING APPROVAL AND REQUIREMENTS THEREIN ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Will go live will minor changes to the level 2 requirements on Monday, 7/23/2018. Source Material is from the Star Wars: Empire series by Dark Horse comics. Green color, harness and patch design for these troopers are unique to this series. The finalized proposal will replace the current IA Trooper CRL for 501st approval requirements. Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. Helmet Open face helmet whose base consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. The helmet skirt is to be smooth all around with no indentations on the rear. A telemetry unit is attached centered to the left side of the dome aligned to the rim. The telemetry unit consists of: Rectangular box with a slight bevel and details on. The box is in the same color as the helmet. The telemetry unit details closely resembles the reference photos. [*]The helmet is to be painted in olive green tone with a flat or satin finish. [*]A black trim is covering the edge of the helmet skirt and forehead of the dome. [*]Black chin strap and chin cup [*]Screw caps are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt where the chin cup straps meet the hemet. [*]May be replaced by the Olive hat listed in optional accessories for approval. Goggles Goggles may have either a squared or slightly rounded frame, which is black or olive green in color, with dark lenses. Not needed if the hat option is worn. Green Imperial Army Jumpsuit One piece olive green coverall / jumpsuit / flight suit with a front invisible zipper and mandarin collar. Each shoulder has an Imperial Army patch that sits 3-4 inches below the shoulder seam. 2 large chest pockets. 2 large cargo pockets sit on the outside of the legs from around mid-thigh and not extending past bottom of the knee, with a rectangular flap covering the top. No pockets on sleeves or below knees. Rank bars of any kind are not permitted. For level 2 certification (if applicable) Mandarin collar is closed by a chevron shaped strap across the neck. A single snap is present near the chevron point. Snap does not need to be functional. Snap should be Olive Green in color. Imperial Army Patch A shield shaped patch. The patch has an Imperial cog symbol approximately 2.75 to 3 inches in diameter. The background of the patch has a more narrow shield shaped design on top of a box colored a darker shade of green. Olive Gloves Olive Drab, wrist length gloves constructed of leather, kevlar or similar material. Enclosed fingers. No buckles, straps, etc. May have three stitched lines or square padding on the back of the hand. For level two certification (if applicable): Gloves are made of leather with the correct set of 3 parallel lines stitched on back of hand. Web Harness Olive green colored, double strap "H" harness which travels from the lower back, and up over the shoulders. Harness is made of 2 inch olive green nylon webbing. The harness system attaches to the belt. Visible snap-hook style fasteners that attach to belt eyelets are acceptable. Tri-glides may be present on front or back of suspenders. Back of suspenders may be permanently fastened to belt, but not required. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The main body of harness fasteners are discreetly hidden behind the belt. Tri-glides are present on the front suspenders for harness adjustment. Belt Belt is a 2"-2.25" wide nylon military style quick release web belt. Belt is olive green in color. Belt has grommets that run along both the top and bottom of its length. For level two certification (if applicable): Belt buckle is olive green in color. Belt Pouches Belt pouches are olive green in color and should be made of nylon or similar material. A minimum of 4 small pouches are required, which may consist of any combination of double handcuff pouches, small utility pouches, magazine pouches or other molle style pouches of similar size. Two pouches should be placed in front - One on each side of the belt buckle where the harness meets the belt. The remaining pouches my be placed anywhere on the sides or back of belt. Additional OD green MOLLE style pouches of similar size may be added to fill out the belt, but are not required. Boots Calf high black leather or leather like material. Jackboot style is acceptable. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1". This need not be functional. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black. For level two certification (if applicable): Olive green 8"-9" high boots. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. Hat, Olive Fabric is a medium weight suiting material of olive green. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear flaps overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with (5) (6) or (7) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk may be positioned in the center of the front vertical flap, but is not required. May be worn in place of the Helmet for approval. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): If present the Imperial Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disc. DH-17 Blaster Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the DH-17 is a standard-issue Imperial sidearm for shipboard combat. The energy and power of the weapon are tuned to penetrate necessary targets, yet it will not puncture a starship's hull. Scratch built or high-end prop replica. DH-17 Holster Black or OD Green in color Made of nylon, leather or similar materials. E-11 Blaster Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the E-11 is standard-issue for many Imperial troops. Light, compact yet powerful, the E-11 blaster is always in high demand throughout the galaxy. Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. E-11 Holster For 501st approval: Black or Olive Green in color Made of nylon, leather or similar materials.

The CRL is here: http://databank.501s...gineer_Full.jpg From what I can see, you'd need to remove the compad pocket and the pocket/code cylinder pocket on both sleeves. The cargo pockets on the legs should be on the outside of the legs, instead of the front. I can't see clearly if the pockets on the chest are correct, if any. And of course, you'd need the correct patch below the shoulders.

Yeah, t's loading for me now. We actually have that pic in the references thread, but it's only a shoulders up shot and the helmet is partially hidden by the dialogue. There's really not enough to go on there.

Thank your wife for us as well, Brother!

It's not showing up.

Did some digging and found this: http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer_black_nco Looks like this guy is most likely some sort of warrant officer, only in johdpur pants, wrist length gloves, and a helmet. I'm not sure there's a good shot of the front of the uniform, and without that it would be hard to develop it's own CRL.

The original CRL write up called for large pockets to be sitting under the waist of the jump suit. Many people were removing back pockets and putting them on the front at the hips. As there actually aren't any clear images that there are any pockets below the waist except for the cargo pockets on the legs, we removed that from being a requirement for approval.

That looks pretty damn close!

Weighing in: Rocker Patch: The rocker patch is only on some units. There are panels where the Rocker is on one Combat Engineer, but not on the guy next to him. That should make it an optional accessory instead of a level 2 requirement. It's probably some sort of rank rocker or specialization marking. Honestly I don't care, though I think have the text in Aurebesh should be required to keep the costume "in universe" and to keep the appearance uniform no matter what is inside the rocker. Pouches: MP40 pouches are also on the Combat engineers. Don't forget an optional large pouch over the chest. (May end up being required, I'll need to go back and read the comic again.) Pouch materials should probably be broken down by pouch. i.e. MP40 pouches are usually canvas or leather. Molle style are nylon.

You should be fine with the style of that jumpsuit if you change the collar. I can't really make out if the color is correct though. Not sure if it's my screen or their photograph.

The current CRL has been updated with plain wording that the helmet may be replaced by the officer cap for approval, Tags. https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_imperial_army_trooper

Yep, go ahead. Actually getting this into CRL form is a bit further down the line after the Trooper overhaul. However, the more that's prepared, the quicker it'll go through the CRL Team and onto the LMOs for approval.