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I'm well aware. What I was trying to say is: Do we have any pictures of Muddies using it, rather than just Chewbacca?

Feels like it'd be a cool addition. Were you able to find any picture evidence by any chance?

I thought that's what I had expressed a couple of posts back, but I suppose I could have been clearer. Sorry about that!

I don't think adding this line makes a lot of sense, considering it's the exact same type of stock used on the Mudtrooper E-10. It's a different Buttpad from the Death Trooper's E-11D, but since that weapon is effectively so different, I don't think it'd make much sense to add it as a point of comparison. The Range Trooper E-10R also has the same style of buttpad as the E-10.5 or the E-10. All the same configurations really. Example: Note how the bust from 2020 even has the same greeblie on the back of the stock? "The buttstock matches the size and shape of those seen on screen" might as well be a Level 1 line. The comparison should be deleted imo.

Since the E-10 and E-11 stock pads have the greeblie and no ribbing on it, you'd probably need a custom butt pad anyway, so I don't think it'd be too much of an issue. This is very much a difference in the real piece, but since we gotta change it up for Star Wars anyway, I don't think it'll matter too much.

You're totally right, I suppose I should have gone more descriptive there...

Perfect, we're good to go I think!

Based on this, I think you'd have the front loop too far forward. You'd want it on the same side as the Magazine, between the second and third T-Track. Placement should be above/somewhat closer to the shooter than the Bayonet lug on the Sterling. You can see it when you compare to where the folding stock underneath the tube ends.

If this is any help to you: There is a little hole in the underside of the "real" stock tube, I'd presume this is likely the easiest spot to mount a sling swivel in.

These two lines are functionally the same. I'd suggest deleting the bottom sentence, as it is covered in the first. Otherwise, I'd say blaster is good to go

I concur. I would like it to be an option for those who strive for "full" accuracy, but if people already have "non saga" boxes, then they should be able to use them.

Looks good so far! Only change I would really make is that the L2 requirements on the blaster basis can be folded into one line: "Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function."

Sounds good to me. As a side note: We should probably retrofit that info on the Muddy then (I know, broken record at this point )

Great detail questions! Here's my take on it: I don't think the source material gives us clear enough view to verify what kind of sling loop was used/how it attached. It could be a QD loop like this, or something pinned in place otherwise. I don't think we should really specify, for now. If we get better reference later, we can always update with that in mind. Good catch on the magazine! I think for me personally, this pattern falls under being part of a real/replica Sterling. Looking at other CRLs, across various detachments, it doesn't seem to be specified there either. ALSO! Before I forget it: Once we get the E-10.5 out of the way, the text for E-11 and DLT-19 options should be super easy to make. We just take the ones from the R1TK CRL and instead of flashlight, we replace any mention with a 3-slot picatinny rail.

Sorry for the double post. I did end up using my lunch break for this. It may be ever so slightly too thorough, but I think this should do the trick? Please let me know if I forgot anything! E-10.5 Blaster · Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. · The Magazine is longer than Original Trilogy Blasters · A sliding Stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function. · A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): · Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) · 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. · The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled. · Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) M38 Telescope. 1943 model is preferred. · Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter. Eagle logo is preferred. · Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style. · A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots. · 6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug. · A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug. · A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. · A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension. · If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock. · The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Grip assembly and blaster dimensions are based on an S&T Airsoft sterling. Blasters based on real Sterling SMGs are not allowed. If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it mustn’t function. Scope shall be a real or replica 1943 M.H.R. Co. M38 Telescope, 1942 model is not allowed. Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with Small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed. Power Cylinders shall be R1 style, ANH style is not allowed. The screws that mount the picatinny rail are on the outer end of the rail and do not interfere with the rail slots. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a small rectangular greeblie fitted

@BigJasoni Oh dear, sorry, I didn't see your post while I was typing up my own! With your clarification everything makes sense to me - we're totally on the same page here Great insight, thank you!

I'll see if I can't do a breakdown of the essentials after work as for what has to be in there (and potentially even which level?). As for the left side sling swivel: You can see it near the muzzle during the training scene. My guess is that the guns had them, and at some point the attachment point broke off. Based on that, I would suggest making the front attachment point optional. The rear sling swivel is mounted under the buffer tube. As for the lots of tabs: Trust me, I feel ya! I think I have a couple dozen of pics for Aldhani by now. And those numbers are tame compared to my other folders haha.

Something to raise here: - On FISD's R1TK CRL, the Logo on the Hengstler doesn't become relevant until Level 2, Eagle Size isn't specified until Level 3. I feel like if we want to add these details, it should be consistent across different blasters. - I don't think I really like the wording on the stock section much. Sure, it's a 416C style stock, but the stock used comes most likely from a VFC Replica, not a real 416C (UK gun laws, accessibility to parts, cost, etc). I'm not sure if the brand should be specified here? Death Trooper CRL says "It is fitted with a HK416c retractable stock or similar". Once again, would it be preferable to have the same part be described consistently across multiple CRLs? - The additional detail on the Stock would be inconsistent with the Mudtrooper CRL. Should both have more detail or be more vague? It's the same stock, it should be consistent across the board in my opinion. If we are gonna be more specific we might as well add the following for Level 2: "Buttplate is smooth with a rectangular greeblie mounted on the plate" The detail piece on the buttplate is the same as on the Solo E-10: - FISD's R1TK CRL don't specify the Scope type until Level 2. Should be made consistent across both blasters, as they use the same scope imo. - Magazine detail isn't mentioned in Mudtrooper. Should this detail be added to both CRLs? It is present on both blasters. - In regards to power cylinders, again for consistency, FISD don't mention theirs until Level 2 and don't require them to be "Rogue One Style" until Level 3 even. - Rather than saying that it's a 4-Segment Rail, let's call it a 3-slot? I believe that this will make it easier for other folks to pick a rail for themselves (for dirt cheap on Aliexpress for example). This is based on how you'd usually refer to these types of rails. Ultimately, what I want to ask is: Do we currently have too many details in L1 that should be in L2? With all the additions, it starts to feel a little bloated for L1, at least for my taste. Now mind you, I think all of these are great details, and should all be in there, but if they are, I think they mostly should go to L2 Ohh, now we're talking! Good eye for details I mentioned some points above already, so don't mind me! A couple of small notes: - I don't think that there is an awful lot of deliberate changes. Chances are that the only real new piece would be the tube, which is just a (S&T) Sterling Barrel Shroud, but longer this time. Since the T-Tracks are different from the E-10 placement (no slider for bayonet), it is unlikely be the same I believe. - Good eye on the Serial Number on the scope! I love details like that. I would presume this is the same as the R1 scope? If so, I believe it's fair to assume that the entire Scope assembly (Scope, Mount, Bracket and Hengstler) all come as the same unit from the R1 E-11 and are then added to the new tube. - I don't believe that the stock adapter is from a 416. The 416 platform needs a buffer tube still, and while the C model has a shorter tube (it's the big blocky round shape that protrudes from the receiver), it is not mounted through a Picatinny rail, but rather mounted with a big nut. - 1913 basically refers to the standard that the picatinny rail is based around - The rail is a 3-slot MLOK rail. There is various makers, and I would be willing to bet that production used cheap Airsoft rails, rather than something built to real standard. I guess the vent holes on the Sterling shroud might be a decent enough fit? Couldn't tell you, in all fairness. My time with the S&T Sterling is very brief. Either way, some great observations!

I think it's good to proceed, yep.

I agree, it beats just "Imperial Blaster" or "Aldhani Trooper Blaster". Worst case, if there ever should be a more updated source, the name can be swapped. Like E-10B, E-11L, feel just as viable, but imo the only official name we have thus far is "E-10.5" I much prefer the wording on this! Leaves some flexibility and imo looks good to go.

Just to make sure: Do all the E-10.5 have a sling on there? Do we have any photo reference of any without slings? Just want to make sure before we make that a "mandatory" detail on there

The Mudtrooper blaster has a box with two spikes that can extend forward, in universe this is considered a bayonet. OxProps is the maker of the file, which is how I stumbled over this thing again That's where I bought my E-10.5 file for now. That's great insight, thank you! I can see the rectangular hole in the backside. How did these mount to your belt? Very interesting, I wonder if there's a difference between the boxes for the mains vs boxes for anybody else? Either way - I want to grab another set of boxes now! Thank you

Something I only realized today while scrolling through the OxProps Facebook page: A TK flashlight was designed for Rogue One, but apparently didn't make it into the movie. It did however make it into the Hot Toys figure for the Jedha Patrol trooper. Turns out Kimzi (the Radio operator) and a bunch of the soldiers that follow him end up using those exact flashlights! I figure this would make for a cool optional accessory, for both armored and non-armored versions. The flashlight is not mounted to the blasters and handheld:

@fb501 Mine is from Philo Props and measures roughly: 75mm tall, 50mm wide and 25mm deep, without the attachment hooks. CRL says approximately 2 inch (5,08 cm) by 3 inch (7,62 cm) by 1 inch (2,54 cm).

Oh dear, good luck @TeaJay! @Blackwatch Boots section looks good to me