Imperial Army Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion

**nanotek[CMD-DWM]** · October 17, 2022

This will be a thread for discussion of the Imperial Army Troopers as seen in Andor.

** 2023/04/22 Update - CRL with versions 1+2 is now live @ https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_imperial_army_trooper_andor**

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This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized):

Hat - Version One, Version Two
Helmet - Version Three
Goggles - Version Three
Tunic
Chest Armor - Version Two, Version Three
Back Armor - Version Two, Version Three
Shoulder - Version Two, Version Three
Biceps - Version Two, Version Three
Gloves
Belt
Trousers
Boots
E-10.5 Blaster

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Description: Imperial Army Trooper: Andor
Prefix: TX
Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment
Context: Star Wars: Andor (TV Series)

The troopers of the Imperial Army were sent to the Imperial occupied planet of Aldhani. Their main duty was guarding the Imperial base at Nasma Klain as well as the Alkenzi Airbase from any threats local and foreign.

Special Notes:

The armor parts are a very dark grey shade, or as specified in each part description, and made from one of these (or similar) types of materials:
- Fiberglass
- ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)
- HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene)
- PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing)
- Polyurethane Rubber
3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed.
Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy.

Hat - Version One, Version Two

Fabric matches the tunic and pants.
Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall.
Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high.
Front bill extends 3" (76mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches.
An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”.

OPTIONAL Level two certification

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Helmet - Version Three

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.
A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.
The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.
The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.
A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim.
Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt.
The helmet is to be painted very dark grey to match the armor.
The helmet may feature a black chin cup with grey webbing strap.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats.
Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.
Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap.

Goggles - Version Three

Goggles shall have an aged chrome or silver frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image.
Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam.
Goggles have a tinted lens featuring two flat panels on each side.
Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic. The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap.
The goggle strap features a number of buckles:
There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25.4mm) elastic is threaded.
A large buckle greeblie on the back side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a square inset into the buckle matching the helmet color.
Goggles are worn just above the brim of the helmet.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Serrated 1" (25mm) slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm).
1” (25mm) webbing should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles.
Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet.
Goggle strap has the Telemetry Unit mounted directly to it on the right side of the helmet.

Tunic

A long-sleeved, olive green jacket that falls just to mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons.
Fabric has a denim textured material with a visible weave.
Has a high mandarin style collar with a left over right closure that rises from the front of the tunic.
The front closure overlaps left over right and rises from the hem at the bottom of the tunic to the top of the collar.
Four rectangular pockets are present on the jacket front, covered by large flapped closures. Lower pockets are larger than the ones on the upper chest. Lower pocket seams rest on the same seam as the end of the tunic
The rear of the jacket has a horizontal seam present near the upper back. Two vertical seams start below the horizontal upper back seam moving down the bottom of the jacket.
Two black tunic hooks to hold the belt in place are permitted. If used, the hooks will pass from the inside of the tunic to the outside through holes on either side of the tunic at the hip. The belt covers the holes.
One pocket is present on each arm of the jacket, each covered by large flapped closures.
The top of the arm pocket flaps are in line with the top edge of the chest pockets.
Above the left arm pocket flap, up to 2 black fabric rank bars may be present.
Cuffs on the sleeves are about mid-distance to the elbow. The material folds back on itself to form the cuff.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

If left arm rank bars are present, the black fabric should be similar to duvetyn type of fabric and will have 3 equidistant horizontal stitch lines through each rank bar.
The front jacket flap will have rectangular stitch marks with a stitched X inside where the Velcro is attached to keep the flap closed.

Chest Armor - Version Two, Version Three

Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design.
There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section.
Buckles attach to upper chest plate. Buckles are gunmetal or silver with black recesses.
Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is black. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material.
To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. The elongated oval is painted Humbrol red #19, or equivalent. The raised rectangle greeblie is painted silver or light grey.
Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. A white or silver rectangle is present on this raised square.
On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards.
Chest shall be painted a very dark grey. Greenish undertones in certain lighting conditions is acceptable. An acceptable range of colors include RLM 70 to Sherwin Williams SW6994 Greenblack, or equivalent.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor.
Buckles may have silver paint chipping showing gunmetal underneath the silver.

Back Armor - Version Two, Version Three

Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet.
Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate.
Chest and back plate meet at the sides.
The backplate features painted details that vary from trooper to trooper. Acceptable colors for these details are either silver or gunmetal, but one color must be chosen. Mix and match of the detail items is not permitted.
There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle and recessed box color.
Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted silver or gunmetal. The silver or gunmetal paint does not leave the edge of the box opening.
The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering.
Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present.
Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is permitted.
Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped.
Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present.
There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses.
There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie.
There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. The raised slots are painted either silver or gunmetal grey.
Shoulder straps are black and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The chest buckle shall match the raised slot color.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The hose fittings are angled forward.
There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box.
There are two indented squares approximately 1/4 "x 1/4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.
There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box.

Shoulder Armor - Version Two, Version Three

Each shoulder bell is a mirror image of the other.
The detailing of each shoulder bell is asymmetrical.
Shoulders should have a longer flat edge that covers top of bicep with a shorter flat edge that connects to chest armor.
Shallow grooves are present in a pattern matching the photo.
Shoulders are painted to match the armor and helmet.
Shoulders are mounted to the shoulder strap via a bracket and 1" (25mm) or 1.25" (40mm) webbing strap.
Optional rank stripes located on the left shoulder may be present. The stripes are painted on. The white stripe is approximately 1" (25mm" wide bordered by a black stripes approximately 5/16" (6.5mm) wide. The stripes may be semi gloss to gloss in color.

Biceps - Version Two, Version Three

Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip layer on top.
Biceps are painted to match the armor and helmet.

Gloves

Black gloves made of smooth leather or leather-like material.
Gloves shall have all logos removed.
There is no decorative stitching on the gloves.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Gloves shall have a U-shaped adjustment at the wrist.
Dents brand gloves or accurate replica of Dents gloves.

Belt

The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
There are no loops on the belt.
A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the wearers left from the buckle.
The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
Buckle is adorned with an Rogue One type Code Disk without grooves at the center. The belt is worn above the top of the lower pocket flap top edge.
The belt features two boxes, one on either side of the buckle.
The boxes are Rogue One style boxes, the dimensions are approximately 3" (76.2mm) tall x 2" (50.8mm) wide x 1" (25.4mm) thick.
Boxes shall be painted olive grey or gunmetal with a flat finish.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Belt is made of leather.
Belt has a groove at top and bottom edge of the belt along its length.
Belt boxes are smaller than Rogue One boxes, being 2.5" (67mm) tall x 1.75" wide (45mm) x 1" (25.4mm) thick.
Belt boxes feature a pill shaped indentation at the top of the box.

Trousers

Olive green pants matching the tunic and hat.
Fabric is a denim textured material with a visible weave.
There are no visible pockets.
Trousers feature a long reinforcement panel on the front of the leg from mid thigh to below the knee. This panel is double row stitched. It does not extend to the side seams of the trouser leg.

Boots

Calf high black leather or leather like material.
Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.
If seams are present on the shaft they are at the rear only.
Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1" (25.4mm).
This need not be functional.
Jackboot buckles should not be shiny/can be painted dingy grey or gun-metal color.
Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.
If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/leather, it is painted black.
German "jack boot" style boots are most canon.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Boots are made of leather.

E-10.5 Blaster

Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.
The magazine is longer than Original Trilogy blasters.
Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style.
A sliding stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function.
A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function.
Grip assembly and blaster dimensions are based on an S&T Airsoft sterling.
The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled.
Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) 1943 model M38 Telescope.
Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed.
A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots.
6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug.
A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug.
A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. The screws do not interfere with the rail slots.
A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension.
If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock.
The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock is smooth and has a pill shaped greeblie with three holes. Two of the holes are circular, the central is rectangular.
The buttstock matches the size and shape of those seen on screen, being shorter overall than other Rogue One era buttstocks. The stock has the appearance of being two pieces joined together.

**Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]** · October 17, 2022

I suggest we begin with what is known. We know the armor is similar in most regards to our own Mudtrooper, and to the ICAT trooper. Parts of the armor on both are shared, with some minor (not quite obvious) differences.

If you are unfamiliar with the armor and its layout, here are the CRLS:

ICAT CRL

Mudtrooper CRL

While we discuss this, we will be best served by starting at the top, and working to the bottom. Stay on target. One item at a time. Discuss it, clear and lock, and move on.

This will not happen overnight. It will not be done by next week, or next month. If you have not been part of a CRL discussion, I suggest you join the discussion, and understand that thats what it is, a DISCUSSION, to come to the end product.

Here are the parts of the uniform, and the order we should be discussing this in, starting at the helmet and working to the boots.

This is directly from our Mudtrooper Version 1, so there will be differences.

Edits in Green

New text in Yellow

Removed text in ~~red strikethrough~~

FROM THE MUDTROOPER CRL:

Helmet

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim, covers the edge of the helmet rim with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field gray to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has a black chin cup with tan webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

Goggles

Goggles shall have an aged chrome frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image. The knurled nose bridge adjuster is brass in appearance.
Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam.
Goggles have dark angled lens featuring two flat panels on each side.
Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic - The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap.
The goggle strap features a number of buckles:
There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
A large buckle greeblie on the lefthand side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a beige square.
Two black tri-glides on the right rear through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded.
Goggles may be worn over the eyes or on the brim of the helmet.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Serrated 1" (25mm) slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm).
1” (25mm) webbing should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles.

Tunic

A long-sleeved, olive gray jacket that falls between upper and mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons.

Has a high mandarin style collar with an open space in front.

Has two panels on either side of the front, extending to the bottom of the jacket.

Has a stitched "cuff" on the sleeve that extends to around the middle of the forearm. Appearance of the cuff may be created by top stitching.

If side pockets are present, they are built into the jacket with no covering flaps present.

No outer stitched pockets are acceptable unless they are fully covered by the armor.

Shall be moderately weathered.

Chest Armor

Chest armor matches visual references.

Accurate shape/design to front of chest.

There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section.

Buckles attach to upper chest plate.

Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle.

To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval.

Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor.

On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards.

Chest and straps shall be painted olive grey and be moderately weathered.

Back Armor

Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate.

Chest and back plate meet at the sides.

Black foam extends from the arm openings.

There are two hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie.

Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside.

The walls and floor of the recesses shall be olive grey.

Each recess has a different and specific set of boxes inside.

Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. The floor of the cut out and the walls inside match the color of the armor.

Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present.

There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the two large recesses.

There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie.

There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into.

Shoulder straps are matte olive green with moderate weathering and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle.

Back plate is painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

Shoulder Armor

Each shoulder bell is a mirror image of the other.

The detailing of each shoulder bell is asymmetrical.

Shoulders should have a longer flat edge that covers top of bicep with a shorter flat edge that connects to chest armor.

Shallow grooves are present in a pattern matching the photo.

Shoulders are painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

Bicep Armor

Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip layer on top.

Each bicep may feature a slanted fishhook detail that is inset into the bicep top facing outward.

The two costume versions have different sets of biceps:Version 1, Lieutenant

Biceps are olive grey with moderate weathering.

Version 2, Commander

Left bicep is olive grey with moderate weathering.

Right bicep armor is painted red with three yellow squares on the cover strip, with moderate weathering.

Gloves

Black gloves made of leather or leather-like material

Back of glove has four detail lines across knuckles and a wider panel beneath.

Middle, ring, and pinky fingers have a stitch 1” (25 mm) below the fingertip.

Gloves have a U-shaped Velcro closure around the wrist.

Gloves shall have all logos removed.

Belt

Belt is black and is made from two 1.5” (38 mm) nylon web straps sewn together.

The belt features six boxes.

One large drop box on the right side of the belt.

Two small and two medium boxes worn in the center of the belt.

One long drop box worn on the left side of the belt.

Boxes shall be painted olive grey and be moderately weathered.

Belt is worn high on the waist, close to the bottom edge of the chestplate.

Belt closes with Velcro at the rear, right over left.

Holster (not present on Andor troopers)

Made of black leather or leather-like material.

Worn on right side of belt behind the rightmost belt box.

Pants

Black pants with double reinforced thighs.

The pants do not have visible pockets or other adornment on the legs.

Shall be moderately weathered and washed out enough to appear charcoal/grey.

Shins (not present on the Andor troopers)

The shin plates (greaves) attach directly to the front of the boots using two rubber straps that thread through the back of the greaves.

Each strap affixes on the outer edge of the boot via a cam style buckle.

The rubber straps are ribbed and equal in size.

Straps extend from each buckle and the inner side of the greaves.

A “T¨ shaped knee plate is affixed to both greaves that may appear to angle slightly away from the knee.

The “T” shaped plate features a slightly curved rectangle feature that follows the upper edge. The rectangle is raised.

Two triangular ‘knuckles’ are evident beneath the “T” shaped knee plate.

The greaves feature vertical indents and recessed rectangles that should match the reference image.

The bottom of the greaves angle outward to follow the curvature of the boot/foot.

Shins are painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

Boots

Jackboot or kersey boot style, knee high smooth black leather or leather like material.

Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.

Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot. This need not be functional.

Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.

Boots shall be tall enough to fit both shin straps.

Boots shall be moderately weathered.

Boots should form fit to the calf and not be loose.

**Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]** · October 17, 2022

Lets start at the top. The shape is the same as our mudtrooper, with obvious differences.

Helmet