Jump to content

Imperial Army Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion


Recommended Posts

This will be a thread for discussion of the Imperial Army Troopers as seen in Andor.

------------------------------------------

This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized):

  • Helmet
  • Goggles
  • Hat
  • Tunic
  • Chest Armor
  • Back Armor
  • Shoulder
  • Biceps
  • Gloves
  • Belt
  • Pants
  • Boots

----------FINALIZED TEXT GOES BELOW THIS LINE------------

Description: Imperial Army Trooper: Andor
Prefix: TX
Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment
Context: Star Wars: Andor (TV Series)

The troopers of the Imperial Army were sent to the Imperial occupied planet of Aldhani. Their main duty was guarding the Imperial base at Nasma Klain as well as the Alkenzi Airbase from any threats local and foreign.

Special Notes:

  • The armor parts are COLOR HERE made from one of these (or similar) types of materials:
    • Fiberglass
    • ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)
    • HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene)
    • PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing)
    • Polyurethane Rubber
  • Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy
  • 3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed.

Helmet

  • An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.
  • A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.
  • The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.
  • The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.
  • A  raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. 
  • Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt.
  • The helmet is to be painted very dark grey to match the armor.
  • The helmet may feature a black chin cup with grey webbing strap.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats.
  • Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.
  • Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. 

Goggles

  • Goggles shall have an aged chrome or silver frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image. The knurled nose bridge adjuster is brass in appearance.
  • Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam.
  • Goggles have a tinted lens featuring two flat panels on each side.
  • Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic. The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap.
  • The goggle strap features a number of buckles:
  • There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
  • A large buckle greeblie on the back side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a square inset into the buckle matching the helmet color.
  • Goggles are worn just above the brim of the helmet.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Serrated 1" (25mm) slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
  • Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm).
  • 1” (25mm) webbing should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles.
  • Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet.
  • Goggle strap has the Telemetry Unit mounted directly to it on the right side of the helmet. 

Hat - Version 2 

  • Fabric matches the tunic and pants.
  • Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall.
  • Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high.
  • Front bill extends 3" (76mm) down, decorated with (5), (6),  (7) or (8)  concentric stitches.
  • An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”.

OPTIONAL Level two certification 

  • Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

 

Tunic 

  • A long-sleeved, olive green jacket that falls just to mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons. 
  • Fabric has a denim textured material with a visible weave. 
  • Has a high mandarin style collar with  a left over right closure that rises from the front of the tunic.
  • The front closure overlaps left over right and rises from the hem at the bottom of the tunic to the top of the collar. 
  • Four rectangular pockets are present on the jacket front, covered by large flapped closures. Lower pockets are larger than the ones on the upper chest.  Lower pocket seams rest on the same seam as the end of the tunic
  • The rear of the jacket has a horizontal seam present near the upper back. Two vertical seams start below the horizontal upper back seam moving down the bottom of the jacket. 
  • Two black tunic hooks to hold the belt in place are permitted. If used, the hooks will pass from the inside of the tunic to the outside through holes on either side of the tunic at the hip. The belt covers the holes.
  • One pocket is present on each arm of the jacket, each covered by large flapped closures.
  • The top of the arm pocket flaps are in line with the top edge of the chest pockets. 
  • Above the left arm pocket flap, up to 2 black fabric rank bars may be present.
  • Cuffs on the sleeves are about mid-distance to the elbow. The material folds back on itself to form the cuff. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • If left arm rank bars are present, the black fabric should be similar to duvetyn type of fabric and will  have 3 equidistant horizontal stitch lines through each rank bar.
  • The front jacket flap will have rectangular stitch marks with a stitched X inside where velcro is attached to keep the flap closed.

Chest Armor

  • Chest armor matches visual references.
  • Accurate shape/design to front of chest.
  • There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section.
  • Buckles attach to upper chest plate. Buckles are gunmetal or silver with black recesses. 
  • Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is black. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. 
  • To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. The elongated oval is painted Humbrol red #19 . The raised rectangle greeblie is painted silver or light grey. 
  • Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. A white or silver rectangle is present on this raised square.
  • On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards.
  • Chest shall be painted a very dark grey. Greenish undertones in certain lighting conditions is acceptable. An acceptable range of colors include RLM 70 to Sherwin Williams SW6994 Greenblack.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor.
  • Buckles may have silver paint chipping showing gunmetal underneath the silver.

Back Armor  

  • Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet. 
  • Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate.
  • Chest and back plate meet at the sides.                                                                                                                          
  • The backplate features painted details that vary from trooper to trooper. Acceptable colors for these details are either silver or gunmetal, but one color must be chosen. Mix and match of the detail items is not permitted.
  • There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle and recessed box color. 
  • Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted silver or gunmetal. The silver or gunmetal paint does not leave the edge of the box opening.  
  • The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. 
  • Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. 
  • Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is permitted. 
  • Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped.
  • Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present.
  • There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recess.
  • There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie.                                                            
  • There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into.  The raised slots are painted  either silver or gunmetal grey.  
  • Shoulder straps are black and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The chest buckle shall match the raised slot color. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The hose fittings are angled forward.                                                                                                                            
  • There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box.
  • There are two indented squares approximately  .25"x .25" (5mmx5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.
  • There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. 

Shoulder Armor

  • Each shoulder bell is a mirror image of the other.
  • The detailing of each shoulder bell is asymmetrical.
  • Shoulders should have a longer flat edge that covers top of bicep with a shorter flat edge that connects to chest armor.
  • Shallow grooves are present in a pattern matching the photo.
  • Shoulders are painted to match the armor and helmet. 
  • Shoulders are mounted to the shoulder strap via a bracket and 1 or 1.25" webbing strap. 
  • Optional rank stripes located on the left shoulder may be present. The stripes are painted on. The white stripe is approximately 1" (25mm" wide bordered by a black stripes approximately 5/16" (6.5mm) wide.  The stripes may be semi gloss to gloss in color. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • MISSING?

Biceps 

  • Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip layer on top.
  • Biceps are painted to match the armor and helmet. 

Gloves

  • Black gloves made of smooth leather or leather-like material.                                   
  • Gloves shall have all logos removed.                                                                                   
  • There is no decorative stitching on the gloves. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Gloves shall have a U-shaped adjustment at the wrist. 
  • Dents brand gloves  or accurate replica of Dents gloves. 

Belt

  • The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
  • Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
  • There are no loops on the belt.
  • A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the wearers left from the buckle.
  • The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
  • The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
  • Buckle is adorned with an Rogue One type Code Disk without grooves at the center.    The belt is worn above the top of the lower pocket flap top edge.                          
  • The belt features two boxes, one on either side of the buckle.                                                                                        
  • The boxes are Rogue One style boxes, the dimensions are approximately 3" (76.2mm) tall ,2" (50.8mm) wide, and 1" (25.4mm) thick. 
  • Boxes shall be painted olive grey or gunmetal with a flat finish. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Belt is made of leather.
  • Belt has a groove at top and bottom edge of the belt along its length. 
  • Belt boxes are smaller than Rogue One boxes, being 2.5" (67mm) tall , 1.75" wide (45mm) and 1" (25mm). 
  • Belt boxes feature a pill shaped indentation at the top of the box. 

Trousers:

  • Olive green pants matching the tunic and hat.                                                                     
  • Fabric is a denim textured material with a visible weave.                                                   
  • There are no visible pockets. 
  • Trousers feature a long reinforcement panel on the front of the leg from mid thigh to below the knee.  This panel is double row stitched. It does not extend to the side seams of the trouser leg. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • MISSING?

Boots:

  • Calf high black leather or leather like material.
  • Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.
  • If seams are present on the shaft they are at the rear only.
  • Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1".
  • This need not be functional.
  • Jackboot buckles should not be shiny/can be painted dingy grey or gun-metal color.
  • Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.
  • If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black.
  • German "jack boot" style boots are most canon.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Boots are made of leather.

TEXT ADD BELOW

  • Like 3
Link to comment

I suggest we begin with what is known.  We know the armor is similar in most regards to our own Mudtrooper, and to the ICAT trooper.  Parts of the armor on both are shared, with some minor (not quite obvious) differences.  

If you are unfamiliar with the armor and its layout, here are the CRLS: 

ICAT CRL

Mudtrooper CRL

While we discuss this, we will be best served by starting at the top, and working to the bottom.  Stay on target. One item at a time. Discuss it, clear and lock, and move on. 

This will not happen overnight. It will not be done by next week, or next month. If you have not been part of a CRL discussion, I suggest you join the discussion, and understand that thats what it is, a DISCUSSION, to come to the end product.  

 

Here are the parts of the uniform, and the order we should be discussing this in, starting at the helmet and working to the boots. 

This is directly from our Mudtrooper Version 1, so there will be differences.  

Edits in Green

New text in Yellow

Removed text in red strikethrough

 

FROM THE MUDTROOPER CRL: 

Helmet 

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim, covers the edge of the helmet rim with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field gray to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has a black chin cup with tan webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

Goggles

Goggles shall have an aged chrome frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image. The knurled nose bridge adjuster is brass in appearance.
Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam.
Goggles have dark angled lens featuring two flat panels on each side.
Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic - The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap.
The goggle strap features a number of buckles:
There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
A large buckle greeblie on the lefthand side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a beige square.
Two black tri-glides on the right rear through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded.
Goggles may be worn over the eyes or on the brim of the helmet.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Serrated 1" (25mm) slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded.
Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm).
1” (25mm) webbing should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles.
 

Tunic

A long-sleeved, olive gray jacket that falls between upper and mid-thigh, with no visible zippers or buttons.

Has a high mandarin style collar with an open space in front.

Has two panels on either side of the front, extending to the bottom of the jacket.

Has a stitched "cuff" on the sleeve that extends to around the middle of the forearm. Appearance of the cuff may be created by top stitching.

If side pockets are present, they are built into the jacket with no covering flaps present.

No outer stitched pockets are acceptable unless they are fully covered by the armor.

Shall be moderately weathered.

 

Chest Armor

Chest armor matches visual references.

Accurate shape/design to front of chest.

There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section.

Buckles attach to upper chest plate.

Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle.

To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval.

Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor.

On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards.

Chest and straps shall be painted olive grey and be moderately weathered.

 

Back Armor

Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate.

Chest and back plate meet at the sides.

Black foam extends from the arm openings.

There are two hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie.

Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside.

The walls and floor of the recesses shall be olive grey.

Each recess has a different and specific set of boxes inside.

Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. The floor of the cut out and the walls inside match the color of the armor.

Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present.

There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the two large recesses.

There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie.

There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into.

Shoulder straps are matte olive green with moderate weathering and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle.

Back plate is painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

 

Shoulder Armor

Each shoulder bell is a mirror image of the other.

The detailing of each shoulder bell is asymmetrical.

Shoulders should have a longer flat edge that covers top of bicep with a shorter flat edge that connects to chest armor.

Shallow grooves are present in a pattern matching the photo.

Shoulders are painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

 

Bicep Armor

Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip layer on top.

Each bicep may feature a slanted fishhook detail that is inset into the bicep top facing outward.

The two costume versions have different sets of biceps:Version 1, Lieutenant

Biceps are olive grey with moderate weathering.

Version 2, Commander

Left bicep is olive grey with moderate weathering.

Right bicep armor is painted red with three yellow squares on the cover strip, with moderate weathering.

 

Gloves

Black gloves made of leather or leather-like material

Back of glove has four detail lines across knuckles and a wider panel beneath.

Middle, ring, and pinky fingers have a stitch 1” (25 mm) below the fingertip.

Gloves have a U-shaped Velcro closure around the wrist.

Gloves shall have all logos removed.

 

Belt

Belt is black and is made from two 1.5” (38 mm) nylon web straps sewn together.

The belt features six boxes.

One large drop box on the right side of the belt.

Two small and two medium boxes worn in the center of the belt.

One long drop box worn on the left side of the belt.

Boxes shall be painted olive grey and be moderately weathered.

Belt is worn high on the waist, close to the bottom edge of the chestplate.

Belt closes with Velcro at the rear, right over left.

 

Holster  (not present on Andor troopers) 

Made of black leather or leather-like material.

Worn on right side of belt behind the rightmost belt box.

 

Pants

Black pants with double reinforced thighs.

The pants do not have visible pockets or other adornment on the legs.

Shall be moderately weathered and washed out enough to appear charcoal/grey.

 

Shins (not present on the Andor troopers) 

The shin plates (greaves) attach directly to the front of the boots using two rubber straps that thread through the back of the greaves.

Each strap affixes on the outer edge of the boot via a cam style buckle.

The rubber straps are ribbed and equal in size.

Straps extend from each buckle and the inner side of the greaves.

A “T¨ shaped knee plate is affixed to both greaves that may appear to angle slightly away from the knee.

The “T” shaped plate features a slightly curved rectangle feature that follows the upper edge. The rectangle is raised.

Two triangular ‘knuckles’ are evident beneath the “T” shaped knee plate.

The greaves feature vertical indents and recessed rectangles that should match the reference image.

The bottom of the greaves angle outward to follow the curvature of the boot/foot.

Shins are painted olive grey with moderate weathering.

 

Boots

Jackboot or kersey boot style, knee high smooth black leather or leather like material.

Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.

Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot. This need not be functional.

Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.

Boots shall be tall enough to fit both shin straps.

Boots shall be moderately weathered.

Boots should form fit to the calf and not be loose.

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment

Lets start at the top. The shape is the same as our mudtrooper, with obvious differences.

 

Helmet 

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim, covers the edge of the helmet rim with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field gray to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has a black chin cup with tan webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

 

Suggested edits:

 

Helmet 

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim, covers the edge of the helmet rim with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field grey  black to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has a black chin cup with tan webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

 

These are my first pass observations of the helmet. The chinstrap looks dark tan or brown, its hard to tell with the reference images. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment

Hey, hoping I can add some insight here, I was lucky enough to wear the costume on set and been working with the IOC members looking to build this kit.

 

The helmet had no rubber trim, there is a slight lip as you can see in the reference images but no rubber trim

 

The chin strap was grey and most of us didn't have chin cups as they kept breaking (mine broke on the way to set so was removed, they were recasting and very brittle)

 

The inner liner of the helmets was webbing like a construction helmet 

 

The goggles were cast in place and couldn't be moved

 

Will help along the way where I can

  • Like 5
  • Thanks 3
Link to comment

Fraser, Welcome to the Spec Ops forums!!!! And THANK YOU!

Your insight is invaluable.  I will make the changes and post below.   

Did I say thank you for your insight?!?  

 

Helmet Change log 1.1  

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim,  raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim.  with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field grey  black to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has may feature a black chin cup with tan  grey webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.   The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work helmets. 

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

  • Like 3
Link to comment

Hi all, joining the discussion. Just recently registered for the spec ops detachment forum, been a member of the legion since 2016 with multiple costumes, including aiding with updating/being the CRL for the KOTOR II version of Darth Nihilus. I saw this costume (the non-helmeted/armored version) and it caught my eye. There's been lots of great discussion over at IOC and from vendors about the dyed denim material used for the soft parts, several differences from the ICAT driver soft parts versus this new outfit... pocket placement, fabric type, etc.  Glad to see Fraser over here helping with the efforts!

Here's the current discussion thread at IOC: https://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/14862-imperial-army-trooper-andor/page/2/

Just a few images found from the above IOC thread showing the actual materials:

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

 

ImperialBoots initial dye trials (in different lighting):

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

 

The armor components are the upper chest/back cluster found on MUD/ICAT Drivers. Armor overall appears to be a satin or matte light-ish black... I'm curious what @fb501 thoughts are on the armor coloration. Strap buckles (chestplate), rear raised buckle drop lip (backplate), inner greeblie components on backplate all appear to be silver. There are some silver accents on the lower front of the chest plate along with some red. I'm sure there are better stills of the lower chest details.

ppsG02m.pngiM7iAdu.pngvcuLPk5.png

 

The gloves are a smooth simple black rather than the detailed ones seen on ICAT Driver and MUD Troopers:

RawBkMf.png

jPLHcwQ.png

 

Belt has two recessed line details at top and bottom of the leather rather than a solid piece of leather. Metal belt boxes are smaller similar to Rogue One style, the code disk on the hat and belt appear to be the solid edge circle Rogue One style rather than the Original Trilogy design that has recessed edges around the outer edge of each circle layer. The handheld blaster pistol holster appears to be optional as not all troopers have one.

 

Looking forward to others chiming in on this one. I know others have already started construction. I've got many of the parts on order and waiting for ImperialBoots to post up their initial offerings on the soft parts.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
21 minutes ago, TeaJay said:

Hi all, joining the discussion. Just recently registered for the spec ops detachment forum, been a member of the legion since 2016 with multiple costumes. I saw this costume (the non-helmeted/armored version) and it caught my eye. There's been lots of great discussion over at IOC and from vendors about the dyed denim material used for the soft parts, several differences from the ICAT driver soft parts versus this new outfit... pocket placement, fabric type, etc.  Glad to see Fraser over here helping with the efforts!

Here's the current discussion thread at IOC: https://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/14862-imperial-army-trooper-andor/page/2/

Just a few images found from the above IOC thread showing the actual materials:

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

 

ImperialBoots initial dye trials (in different lighting):

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

 

The armor components are the upper chest/back cluster found on MUD/ICAT Drivers. Armor overall appears to be a satin or matte light-ish black... I'm curious what @fb501 thoughts are on the armor coloration. Strap buckles (chestplate), rear raised buckle drop lip (backplate), inner greeblie components on backplate all appear to be silver. There are some silver accents on the lower front of the chest plate along with some red. I'm sure there are better stills of the lower chest details.

Yeah was silver on the back areas, on our ones they had just been clearly spray painted and not finished to a detail finish as they are never meant to be seen in detail.

21 minutes ago, TeaJay said:

ppsG02m.pngiM7iAdu.pngvcuLPk5.png

 

The gloves are a smooth simple black rather than the detailed ones seen on ICAT Driver and MUD Troopers:

Gloves I had were Dents make of gloves, they all came from a box marked rogue one so they are reused from previous productions

21 minutes ago, TeaJay said:

RawBkMf.png

jPLHcwQ.png

 

Belt has two recessed line details at top and bottom of the leather rather than a solid piece of leather. (If i remember right i think its stitch lines all the way round top and bottom)

Metal belt boxes are smaller similar to Rogue One style (they aren't metal, 3d prints recast in resin)

The handheld blaster pistol holster appears to be optional as not all troopers have one. (Correct, they didn't seem to issue these to the extras just the cast members)

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
1 hour ago, TeaJay said:

It also looks like the two short cylinders that sit on the top of the backplate are also silver.

Yeah the cylinders are silver and cut at an angle, shortest towards the body 

2 hours ago, TeaJay said:

I believe that's them, will confirm once I find mine again

  • Like 3
Link to comment

Hi!

So as we were pointing out in the IOC discussion, I will say that there are 3 main versions with variants of the army trooper we see in Andor:

  • Army trooper- Soldier, lance corporal (1 stripe) and corporal (2 stripes). Also there is a kind of "butler" version that we see.
  • Army trooper with armor- Soldier, and lance corporal (1 stripe)
  • Army trooper with armor and helmet-Soldier

Regarding the soft part, with our tailor here in France we came out with these schemes (that @fb501 already confirmed)

Vest front:

spacer.png

Vest back:

spacer.png

Pants:

spacer.png

  • Like 3
Link to comment
10 hours ago, TeaJay said:

 There are some silver accents on the lower front of the chest plate along with some red. I'm sure there are better stills of the lower chest details.

ppsG02m.pngiM7iAdu.pngvcuLPk5.png

Here some more references for the lower chest (if you want more I have a complete google album here). For me it looks like a red and white buttons on the inside of the plate (red on the left and white on the right), along a silver/white one on the right of the plate. 

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

spacer.png

 

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment

Other subtle notes:

Looks like there is NO black foam on the either side of the arm openings on the backplate unlike other troopers seen using this style backplate, tank, shore, mud, transport driver... 

kkNVIao.png

 

Here's that cylinder shape angled towards the wearer as noted by @fb501

83MbLQN.jpg

 

@fb501 Do you recall the shoulder bell white stripe being a decal or painted on? It almost looks like there's a smaller black line at the top and bottom of the large white one.  

 

Looks like there is a black stripe as seen with this lighting... gloss black to make it stand out some?

VdaOa6R.png

 

Looks painted by how it flows into the ridges of the shoulder details:

aH9O6qV.png

  • Like 2
Link to comment

Another item worth noting is there appears to be NO  strap sticking up out of the upper center of the back plate as seen on the mudtrooper and ICAT driver.

Here's some great photos from Felix's Google Album that shows that it doesn't appear to be present:

 

AL9nZEVc2cAhQbnHt2l_HmTrPnSnUo0bSBcRa0K3

AL9nZEXZ_Uw7Y67nktU4lnb3T9DxQPuIsmRQcDvv

 

This is the specific component I'm referring to (as seen on ICAT driver backplate):

 BXfzt2g.png

  • Like 3
Link to comment
1 hour ago, pm07 said:

Courtesy of Sheeve's. The tunics use British Army tunic hooks to hold the belts in place. 

No photo description available.

311841460_461034256010456_5710503301105641926_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p180x540&_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=9NBlR93iiowAX-lQImA&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AT8JbhqKiyPw5dlYGBYI71Uqq2GWRZwyDGHlGIIqsb185A&oe=635D7968

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/546-1550WP?R=1550WPvirtualkey54600000virtualkey546-1550WP

here is an option for belt boxes in various sizes. 

Can you find those tunic hooks on the armored and non armored (non officer) outfits? I haven't been able to. It is definitely obvious on Commandant Jayhold Beehaz's uniform, but didn't see it on the Army crew.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
9 hours ago, pm07 said:

@TeaJay

TJ, Here you go . The non armored trooper uses them at the minimum, besides the Officers. 

May be an image of 1 person

 

Great find!! There are some armored soldiers that appear to not have them, so this may be one of those optional components. 

@fb501-- did your outfit have them?

 

I'm curious how these are installed. Are they truly functional or there for adornment. Anyone have tutorial on their installation on the tunic?

  • Like 1
Link to comment

Gentlemen, first , welcome to the Spec Ops forums! 

As I pointed out in my first post, we need to  discuss ONE ITEM at a time.  We have not concluded the Helmet. Once that is finished, we will move on. 

Please STAY ON TARGET.  While I do appreciate  your research and insight and your enthusiasm for this costume, lets stay in order. 

Once we come to the right place, we will discuss each of these items IN GREAT DEPTH. 

 

Helmet Change log 1.1  

An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt.

A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim.

The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black.

The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath.

A small tactical flashlight may be worn below the telemetry unit.

A rubber trim, or the illusion of a rubber trim,  raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim.  with the join made at the rear center of the helmet.

Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered.

The helmet is to be painted in matte field grey  black to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured and is moderately weathered.

The helmet has may feature a black chin cup with tan  grey webbing strap. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

The helmet has a black/dark gray polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet.   The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work helmets. 

The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 1/8" (4-5mm) in diameter, looped around the outer upper section.

If worn, tactical flashlight on right side of helmet is approximately 3.5" (90mm) black aluminum flashlight with knurling at both ends and a rubber push switch. Flashlight need not be functional.

Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Green color is similar in shade to Pantone350U overlaid with Pantone 433U.

 

I am asking for input on the helmet (and helmet ONLY) so that we may clear and lock it to move down the uniform, in CRL order. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment

Some great insight into the costume already, brilliant to see. Like Blackwatch suggests, if we work down the list one item at a time until we've covered everything. Makes it much easier to avoid missing details, plus if anyone ever needs to refer back to the thread then all the discussion regarding the helmet, boots, chest armour, etc is all clustered in the same place.

It's important to keep everything transparent and easy to follow, especially if this initial CRL will be used to build other varients as Felix suggests. Can't wait to see this one get finished!

Link to comment

its Ok Shane, we know we are all excited. Ive been on pins, needles, tacks, broken bits of glass, all that over this and the LMOs vote. 

We will  progress through each section.  Once we have the helmet locked down Id like to add the soft cap option.

  • Like 2
Link to comment

Good to keep a method the madness/excitement. Sounds good!

I think the current helmet write-up from  @Blackwatch is almost there. Here's some stills for the helmet specifically.

https://imgur.com/a/KICMWj0

The right side of the helmet does have the telemetry greeblie, just without the flashlight.

fzAnadj.png

Ijbxqhh.png

One thing to note from @fb501's earlier post, was that the goggle's were cast onto the helmet; not saying that needs to be the case for the CRL, but in the photos above, the telemetry greeblie is sitting on top of the strap for the goggles... which I'd imagine normally wouldn't be that easy if you had removable goggles. On the Mudtrooper CRL you can see that the goggle strap is below the telemetry greeblie.

 

image.png.90e88ff465ec43a0d886e69b08fe74e2.png

 

Outside of that, I think we're nearing the finish line on the helmet. Thoughts?

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment

@TeaJay @fb501 (and others) would the  cast goggles qualify as a Level 2 requirement in your opinion OR a totally unnecessary add?

I see the Level 1 requirement holds that the the strap would sit below the TU (like the Muddy) not on top.  Remove or alter this line?

  • Like 1
Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.