IcyTrooper

The only was I could see it getting narrower would be to split it and taper it off from what'd I'd say. If that won't work I'd shorten it at the top and follow along the curves until it is a little further off your knee. I'd honestly go with the second option I'd say just gradually taking a bit at a time. It honestly doesn't look bad, just a little on the long side.

That is weird that he was hard to communicate. I have a heavy weapons trooper pack from him and he pretty much met it on time, he is a great guy. Mine got lost temporarily when he moved but things happen. Hopefully it shows up in the next few weeks!

My vocoder, traps, and stripes on mine are flat black. My frown is silver with my silver lenses and it looks great!

That's neat!

@Raider haha yep I figured it would have to be broken up some more because I felt like I got a little wordy! L2 and no L3 actually makes it a heck of a lot easier so that is cool. ? I like the description by @Blackwatch too. That overlap method is pretty neat once you see it in action and the pieces are designed for it. That tank trooper I did which is pretty much a combo between shoretrooper and death trooper was my first time doing overlap. I can see how it wouldn't work on other kits if the mold wasn't designed to produce plastic with the ability to overlap.

I know that the following do from FISD: TK - Stormtrooper: ANH Hero (at basic, not for L3) TK - Stormtrooper: ANH Stunt (at basic, not for L3) TK - Stormtrooper: ESB (at basic, not for L3) TK - Stormtrooper: ROTJ (at basic, not for L3) TK - Stormtrooper: Incinerator Trooper (required for L3) TK - Stormtrooper: Shock Trooper (required for L2) TK - Stormtrooper: Sky Trooper (required for L2) TK - Stormtrooper: Death Trooper - TK (required for L3 on some) They removed it from L3 if I remember right on the TK Commander on the updates.

^best advice. The CRL's are there for a reason, it is pretty black and white with this one.

While it is not common I don't understand why it cannot be used, as you have shown it says so in the CRL. Is the GML saying it is wrong getting consensus from another GML in the Garrison or is it just his/her decision? I think I've seen a black ABS belt once before. FYI your kit looks good from what I can see!

@Raider Yep I agree with what you said ? I have added a few details below but I feel like I may have gone to crazy. I think some of the crazier stuff we could move to L2 or L3 (like LED's and smoke, etc.) Styled after the pack as seen in the Battlefront II video game. A loose interpretation is allowed, but screen accuracy is encouraged. Comprised of main box and fuel tank at the top of the pack that creates the look of a "T" and exhaust sections on the left and right bottom of the pack. Main box which is the base of the T will have a recessed section with 3 indents/strips of the same size and width followed by 3 black circles below the lowest of 3 idents/strips. There will also be 3 indents/strips that are black at the bottom of this main box with a silver rectangle offset to the right of the middle-most black indent/strip. The fuel tank at the top will have a raised center section with lips on each end and a seam in the middle that goes through recessed elongated slots that are illuminated or painted orange. Connecting to this center section are two identical caps on each end with evenly spaced recessed elongated slots around each end cap (8 should be visible when looking from the back) follow by a silver/grey circular lip at the end facing outwards. On the inside of each circular end cap there are 3 separate raised circular greeblies that are silver and arranged as per the reference photos. The left and right exhaust sections are similar with visible seams where the edges join. There is a black/silver stripe at the bottom of each section port in the center just before the actual exhaust ports themselves. At the bottom of the exhaust section is an actual exhaust port greeblie that is black and recessed inside each exhaust section. A silver rectangle is present on left exhaust section only and goes the length of the flat section before the curves and slants of the exhaust section. Pack attaches to the O II portion of the back armor via a raised section.

@Raider Glad it made sense! I guess I could have put in there with the overlap it looks like the lip/cover is molded into the armor. With the pack I'm on the fence on that one as I see where the pack verbiage is being derived from. I know we had some issues with heavy weapons troopers (HWT) on the FISD side with the CRL image being considerably different than what was being approved. The ones getting approved though looked exactly like the game ones and everyone on their own built to the likeness of the video game with very little variation which was awesome! The original CRL image looked like a cross between the new image and a sandtrooper backpack and it confused a lot of people (but was probably good enough at the time it first was released). I think we could add a few more details but also leave the verbiage in there about likeness of the game as to not limit individuals in what it takes to build the pack globally. I know some kits can get a little wordy and specific with details using products that may not be available to everyone or hard to achieve. There is a happy medium in it all I'm sure to keep things consistent.

I can see it in the source image because from the bottom of the raised strip area it doesn't look like the cover strip was added on later and in fact a part of the armor (thus the only way to close it would be by an overlap). It is hard to explain that in text but on our normal cover strip methods you can definitely tell that the cover strip was added after the fact. I know this is done a lot with the video game based characters in 501st (like TK commander, etc.) Hopefully that made some sense.

@Raider here are the pics showing the overlap. Both ends overlap each other. This 850 Armor tank kit was nice because the "channels" as I like to call them were molded perfectly to allow for this:

You may want to try Revzilla (https://www.revzilla.com/helmet-accessories) the motorcycle online store under full face helmet visors. I think if I remember correctly that is what people were doing for those "mirrored" finishes. I believe the guys who are doing the Rangetrooper helmets were using motorcycle visors that were gold with red in it.

@Raider on the overlap method you'll leave a lot more of the plastic on each end (or one of the ends) and put one side over the other and glue it down which allows for sealing without the use of a cover strip. I used that method on my biceps on my imperial assault tank driver and both ends fit into a channel of the mold overlapping each other (even though I had to put a beveled cover strip on top of each side). I can hopefully get a pic tomorrow to explain better haha

Great progress!

Hey there! Do you have a pic by chance? You could lower the thighs just a tad and then use the drop boxes to lessen the gap between the cod/ab and thighs.

This is pretty cool! Looks like a great start!

Also wanted to mention that as of this morning Trooperbay has them back in stock again.

Scott, you may want to try Walt's Trooper Factory. I'm not sure how much he is selling them for but I know others who have gone that route.

I saw your reply on the other post. Do you by chance have a pic?

On the sides or like from top to bottom from the ab piece to the thighs? I'd assume this is for a shadow stormtrooper or magma trooper or the like? ?

Didn't even know about this thread til now, can't wait to see the work in progress and approval pics!

Haha nice!!

Excellent! Great work!

Personally, I'd say come down a little more on the top and bottom. However, the CRL pic looks to have a little more on top/bottom than I do, so I think it'd be personal preference on which you like more. If you do trim down even closer just make sure you don't cut into the boxes/blocks as I almost did on one of my kits. ? I have attached a few pics of mine for you, Anovos kit: