Chaos

Thank you but your's is way more detailed than mine, I have quite a few things I am going to do to mine as well. Especially with the weathering. Its about three years old and has been trooped in quite a lot so I have the dings and scratches covered just thru normal wear. What I am going to do it use your talc and hairspray method. Thank you for sharing that. I have recommended that technique to others on here and I think that is probably a better way to go than dry paint brushing. At least with your method you can change it up if needed.

I am not familiar with the 850 armor and construction, maybe post up in here with photos and the guys that have done 850 can help you out with their techniques. Plus it will help others that follow.

Ryan, looking good, make sure that as you go thru your assembly you take a good look at the details that are in the CRL photos and the parts' descriptions. I can't tell because you didn't post a side view with you wearing your upper armor, but it looks like your lower side buckles are pointing straight down, they need to be angled forward approximately 45 degrees.

Ryan, Welcome to the darker side of The Darkside! As I mentioned in our PMs, slow and steady with the paint and weathering. Post up in here as you progress each step, and ask questions, there are a lot of knowledgeable people on here who are happy to mentor. Also, you might want to make an "imgur" account to up load your high quality photos and use the BBCode (message boards & forums) copy link to paste in your build thread. It makes it easier to upload and view your photos here. Best of luck, your helmet is looking great so far, so keep it going and work on those things I mentioned. "Chaos" Death Trooper/Shadowtrooper/FO TIE Pilot (in-progress)/FO Sith Trooper (in-progress)

Had some questions about the routing of the chest straps to the shoulder rings. I am not at my kit so I cant take photos right now, but this should help explain it. If not just ask.

Jeremy, thanks, that is what I was going for, I have seen some people producing the ST Blaster but they have a lot of the details missing. I can't wait to get home so I can print this bad boy out. I've got a blaster sound board (not BlastFx but another he produces) and LED system coming from TRamp, I'll update the audio file to sound like the ST toy sound. I took this sound file from a video review of the blaster. I'll have to separate the different blast clips, but that is easy. https://www.dropbox.com/s/lv4yw9krkh843eh/ST Blaster Audio.mp3?dl=0 When I get the kit, I will probably modify the internal cut outs so that the sound board,LED, speaker, trigger switch etc all fit as "drop ins" I'm just waiting in the TRamp delivery here in AFG so I can take the measurements.

Attention Vendors, We updated our vendor list on 25 Feb 2020. Announcements we posted on many of the main Facebook pages and groups that we could find. Also emails were sent to vendors on the previous Vendors' list. Those that replied were added. If you wish to be added to our Death Trooper Parts Vendor List please follow the below instructions: Format your information as below, this allows for us to be able to copy and paste into our master tracking sheet and to be able to verify you as a Vendor. When filling in information just copy and paste the below example format into a new “reply” window or into a word processing file of your choice. Once pasted, delete the example information and add in any information that you might have. If don’t produce an item listed, leave it blank or put N/A. Thank you for your assistance in helping us keep our Troopers up to date. Example: Costume Name: Imperial Death Trooper Helmet: - Mickey’s Trooper Factory web site - www.mickeystrooperfactory.com, Facebook – www.facebook.com/12345678, Etsy – www.etsy.com/MTF, email – info@MTF.org - Canyon Road Armory – www.CRA.de, etc etc etc. Armor: Same format as above Neck Seal/Gaskets: Gloves: Undersuit/Gaskets included: Belt: Holster: Boots: Optional Accessories: Neuro-Saav Macromotion (NSM) Monitor: Chest Rig: Ammo pouches (belt or shoulder): Pauldron: Blasters: E-11D: SE-14R: DLT-19D: Grenades: HK Magazines (for chest rig) “Stormie”: Electronics: Notes: You can make any annotations which pertain to your shop in this section, such as “MTF only takes Paypal,” "Custom fit." etc. Once you send or post your information we will check and verify and then update our Vendor List. Thank you in advance:

Below is a list of Vendors for the Imperial Death Trooper that are in good standing with the Spec Ops Detachment. This list is not all inclusive and there are other Vendors that make items for the Death Trooper. Many were contacted and did not reply to our request to update their information. Should other Vendors provide us with their information we will update this list accordingly. If you know or use a Vendor that is not listed, contact them and have the Vendor contact us and we will add them. Recommendations are welcome but will not be added to this list unless provided by the Vendor themselves. The Spec Ops Detachment does not endorse any Vendor over any others. It is up to you the Trooper to do the research and exercise due diligence when purchasing any products from Vendors. The Spec Ops Detachment does not get involved in any disputes that a customer may have with a Vendor and even though these Vendors are considered to be in “Good Standing,” it is not uncommon for issues to arise that must be worked out between the buyer and seller. The Spec Ops Detachment endorses a “Buyer Beware” philosophy on any and all transactions. Costume Name: Imperial Death Trooper Helmet: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com , www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Finished and Unfinished kits, gel coated fiberglass • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com , www.facebook.com/jim.tripon  Unfinished kits, Fiberglass resin cast • 850 Armor Works o www.850armorworks.com , www.facebook.com/850armorworks , www.etsy.com/shop/850ArmorWorks  Finished and Unfinished kits, ABS • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops , www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  Poly-Resin cast • KB Props - Kevin Brice o www.facebook.com/pg/KBProps , kbprops@yahoo.com  Resin cast • Anovos o www.anovos.com/collections/star-wars  Fiberglass  Disney / Lucasfilm Ltd. licensed products Armor: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com , www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Finished and Unfinished kits, gel coated fiberglass • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com , www.facebook.com/jim.tripon  Unfinished kits, Fiberglass resin cast • 850 Armor Works o www.850armorworks.com , www.facebook.com/850armorworks , www.etsy.com/shop/850ArmorWorks  Finished and Unfinished kits, ABS • TDK Props - Tom Campbell o www.facebook.com/TDK-Props-537706609725029/ , www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007031235190  3D Files • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  3D Printed Custom tailored individual kits. RAW Printed or Finished Painted. No strapping included. 3D printed in flexible filament • KB Props - Kevin Brice o www.facebook.com/pg/KBProps , kbprops@yahoo.com  Unfinished kits, ABS • Anovos o www.anovos.com/collections/star-wars  Fiberglass  Disney / Lucasfilm Ltd. licensed products • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files Neck Seal/Gaskets: • Darman's Props o www.etsy.com/shop/DarmansProps • Premier Props - Aaron Green o www.facebook.com/PremierProps-1144418089072968 , www.etsy.com/shop/PremierProps • Geeky Pink's Phantastic Gaskets o www.facebook.com/GeekyPinksPhantasticGaskets/  Custom neck seals and gaskets • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com , www.facebook.com/jim.tripon Gloves: • Endor Finders o www.endorfinders.com , www.facebook.com/endorfinders/ • Imperial Boots o www.facebook.com/ImperialBoots.421 , www.imperialboots.com • Crowprops o https://www.facebook.com/crowprops , https://crowprops.bigcartel.com/ Undersuit/Gaskets included: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Individual pieces • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com www.facebook.com/jim.tripon  Two piece suit with neck seal and all gaskets • The Darkside Closet o www.facebook.com/TheDarkSideCloset/ , mikejq123@yahoo.com  Custom measurements Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  Custom measurements Belt: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Complete kit • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com www.facebook.com/jim.tripon  Complete kit • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  Complete kit • KB Props - Kevin Brice o www.facebook.com/pg/KBProps , kbprops@yahoo.com  Belt material, belt buckle, hip boxes, and pouch covers Holster: • Darman's Props o www.etsy.com/shop/DarmansProps • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com Boots: • Imperial Boots o www.facebook.com/ImperialBoots.421 , www.imperialboots.com Order their “Killer” set • Crowprops o https://www.facebook.com/crowprops , https://crowprops.bigcartel.com/ Gio makes the larger sizes up to US 15 • Ebay and Craigslist – look for Doc Martens Jared (screen used) or Talib (acceptable) either works Optional Accessories: Neuro-Saav Macromotion (NSM) Monitor: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com www.facebook.com/jim.tripon • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files Chest Rig: • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com www.facebook.com/jim.tripon • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com Ammo pouches (belt or shoulder): • Jimmiroquai Armor/Jim Tripon o jimmiroquai@yahoo.com www.facebook.com/jim.tripon  belt and chest rig covers • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  belt and chest rig covers • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com  belt and chest rig covers  MP40 shoulder pouches Pauldron: • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com Blasters: E-11D: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Fiberglass • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Premier Props - Aaron Green o www.facebook.com/PremierProps-1144418089072968 , www.etsy.com/shop/PremierProps  3D printed kit • Jerry Budde o www.facebook.com/jerry.budde.92  3D printed kit • Christopher Fieldmarshal Vandenberghe o www.warmachinepaintball.com , www.ebay.com/usr/vmusicstore  Metal kit and parts SE-14R: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Fiberglass • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Premier Props - Aaron Green o www.facebook.com/PremierProps-1144418089072968 , www.etsy.com/shop/PremierProps  3D printed kit • Jerry Budde o www.facebook.com/jerry.budde.92  3D printed kit • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com  Resin DLT-19D: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Fiberglass • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Premier Props - Aaron Green o www.facebook.com/PremierProps-1144418089072968 , www.etsy.com/shop/PremierProps  3D printed kit Grenades: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  3D printed kit • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Premier Props - Aaron Green o www.facebook.com/PremierProps-1144418089072968 , www.etsy.com/shop/PremierProps  3D printed kit • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  3D printed kit • Jerry Budde o www.facebook.com/jerry.budde.92  3D printed kit • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com  3D printed HK Magazines (for chest rig) • MCM Designs (previously TDK Props or known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as MCM Design's files (Previously known as Tom's files))) o https://www.facebook.com/mmart360design, https://cults3d.com/en/users/MCM_Design/creations, mmart360@gmail.com  3D Files • Armory Shop Props o custom@armoryshopprops.com , www.facebook.com/armoryshopprops www.instagram.com/armoryshop_official/ , www.etsy.com/shop/armoryshop  3D printed kit • A&J Projects o www.facebook.com/ajprojects/ , aandjproj@gmail.com  3D printed “Stormie”: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  3D printed kit Electronics: • Plastic Arms Dealer o www.plasticarmsdealer.com www.etsy.com/shop/PlasticArmsDealer , www.facebook.com/plasticarmsdealer  Sound board for blasters and helmets • 850 Armor Works o www.850armorworks.com www.facebook.com/850armorworks , www.etsy.com/shop/850ArmorWorks  Helmet electronics included with full builds • Trooper Tronix o www.facebook.com/TrooperTronix/ , www.etsy.com/shop/TrooperTronix  Helmet fans • TRamp - Trooper Amp o www.facebook.com/trooperamp/ , paul@pwhitrow.com  BlastFX blaster sound card  Voice Audio • UKSWRATH o www.facebook.com/groups/169759240342444/ , http://tk10116.com/ , https://www.etsy.com/shop/UkswrathsSpeciality  Helmet electronics  Voice Audio  Helmet fans

@Lee_C_77 any updates on this? What was the color code?

I'll take a closer look when I get up and have some coffee in the morning.

Chris, Your build is coming along great and I appreciate the detail that you are putting into your build thread. I can't wait to see it completed.

@tropicoll we are currently updating the vendor's list for the Death Trooper. If you go here, you can see where vendor's have replied to my request for updated information. I have not had a chance to consolidate the information so you will have to read thru each one. Also there are a few vendors that have not added their info yet. You can google for those, The Armory Shop Props @Spiel, for armor and soft parts and UKSWRATH @ukswrath for helmet audio/sound options are just a couple. If you find one not on the list, you can post up a question about them in the Death Trooper sub-forum and we can advise if they are a reputable vendor. https://forum.specops501st.com/forum/111-imperial-death-trooper/ You should be able to access that sub-forum, if not send @nanotek a PM and see if he can give you access. You will have to go thru and see what each vendor offers as far as type of product, cost, etc to find what best suits your situation. All the vendors on there produce quality products and there is no one vendor that is better than the other, as each has its pros and cons based upon what suits you the builder. Plus we all have our own opinions and personal preferences. If you have any questions please post them up in the Imperial Death Trooper sub-forum and any one of our many helpful and knowledgeable Troopers will be happy to assist. Best of luck with your build! "Chaos" Death Trooper/Shadowtrooper/FO TIE Pilot (in-progress)/FO Sith Trooper (in-progress)

Did you try The Plastic Arms Dealer https://www.etsy.com/shop/plasticarmsdealer/?page=2#items he was making them in a fiberglass material recently. Send him a message thru his shop

Found this goodie in my archives. Perfect motivation for my task ahead!

Ohhhhh very nice job and thank you for sharing this! So I can add you to the "Accessories" Vendor list?!

I asked Tim to start this thread, he as had access to and spoken with a couple of the actors who have worn the costume and some more photos that can help us (when we get to it) work up the Level 2 requirements. I have looked at some of the photos and have a whole new outlook on how I am going to redo my kit when I get a chance among all my other projects LOL.

Thoughts and critiques?

I shortened the rear plug and rear body section, to make it match better with the photos. It also looks like the rear stock tube might be thinner and slide into a hole that the square piece is covering up. I'll make the changes, might take a day or two as I am going to busy at work the next couple of days.

Spent some time on my day off working with the photos @gmrhodes13 provided and my Sean Field's files. I think I am getting there. Some of the small components aren't shown in the photos but they include inset screens for the fore grip with rear stock version, rear stock, magazine with a screw knob, and a few other greeblies that I didn't add to the build model. I added internal cut outs to accommodate electronics and a bright LED in the front can illuminate the side oval ports and the barrel as seen on the Star Wars Show.

In all honesty, I think if the seam is in the back and a comment about "as unnoticeable as possible" for L1 approval should suffice. We could over think this and we'd still be working on it when Episode 25 comes out.

Body paint .... no seam ?

@gmrhodes13 thanks for the close ups. I'm noticing that the mag well is different than Sean's files as well. Moving the stock tube from the front stock body to the rear stock butt is easy, I'm going to work on that today if I have time. The silver cap looks like it is square with the corners rounded and some type of hex nut. Rear vent fans .... yep, I missed those, thanks! I'll work on those as well when I get a chance. LOL some times my real job gets in the way of my hobby! I'm not sure why they would have a First Order logo as they were not technically part of the FO, so I think just the indented circle will be the way to go. I do like the Sith Trooper logo. I have not seen that anywhere but I was just playing around with the idea. Thanks again for the feedback.

Hey All, Glen @gmrhodes13 brought up some interesting points about the 3D print files that are out there that are not quite like the Photos we have been seeing of the Sith Trooper's ST-W48 blaster. I bought the files that Sean Fields made and attempted modifications to them as to be more in line with the photos we are seeing. They are the barrel, the fore grip, and the body back. On the body back one I made the indented circle on the mag well, and I also got "fancy" and put the Sith Trooper emblem instead of the indented circle just for shits and grins. (Edit- I removed the link since they are based off Sean's files.)

Hey has anyone thought about this ... TK helmets are difficult for some of us larger noggin dudes to put on so we twist it because it is an oval shape. What's to say that the neck opening be more of an oval shape and we just twist the noggin thru it? I haven't seen Jim's kit in person, Glen @gmrhodes13 does Jim's kit look like the neck opening could be oval'd enough to permit it to be twisted on?

Good day all. I plan on getting a Sith kit when I am finally back from the sand box. I was also delaying the purchase due to the CRL not being completed. I think that there have been enough photos and references placed out there by now that most makers of the kits have fine tuned their products to at least meet a basic Level 1 approval. I have seen many comments about the back split and that it is not screen accurate etc, but there are many CRLs across the Legion that say one thing, but with the dawning of Blu Ray DVDs you can find many "screen used" armor sets that don't meet the CRL but yet ... there they are in crystal clear digital Blu Ray show and tell. An example is that damn neck seal. For the longest time the zipper or velcro had to be in the back for some GMLs to approve it even thought the CRLs never really said, and really the only requirement for Level 2/3 is that it must have 11 rings. I'm sorry but if I had a neck seal with 11 rings and it was a basic requirement for approval I'd wear a neck seal with 11 rings and with my "turtle neck" I'd be passed out from asphyxiation in 5 minutes. I guess the point I am trying to make is that in my honest opinion, we develop CRLs at a basic level to assist members who don't have access to certain materials etc, during their builds so that they can at least gain basic approval. So we must look at what the basic approval is. Is it that the armor and accessories, when viewed by the average bystander, match what they have seen on the screen for all of 2 minutes and that they are amazed to be standing next to a Sith Trooper? I really don't think that a split on the back of the Gorget, when properly aligned with each edge butted up against the other would be a distractor or even that noticeable. For one, the back of the helmet sits over the top of the viewed area. If we are concerned about the seam looking odd and pointing out like the above photo, then there are ways to ensure that the seams and joint lay flat and even against each other. I agree with many of you and in my opinion for Level 1 basic approval just say its "one piece, and if there is a split to accommodate the wearer's head, then the edges must be together along the entire seam and there is the appearance of a flat even surface. Level 2 can say No visible seam, and Level 3 can say is made from a flexible rubber like material which matches the rest of the armor in color and sheen. That's more than 2 cents but I found some spare change in my sofa.