Rocket Trooper (BF2)

[14166[TX]]

On 2/4/2019 at 6:19 PM, Blackwatch said:

ALRIGHTY!!!!

SO!!!!!!!

I wrote up a proposal for the backpack. Please look it over.  I know its wordy but we can trim and edit for clarification. 

troopers here is my proposal. Bear with it, its a rough draft:

Rocket Pack:

 

Styled after the pack as seen in the battlefront II video game. An interpretation of the pack is allowed, but screen accuracy is encouraged.

Comprised of the main pack box, fuel tank at the top of the pack and exhaust ports at the left and right bottom of the pack.

Main pack box is rectangular in shape, flat at the top and beveled at the bottom, stopping above the thermal detonator.

It is mounted to the armor backplate   “0 II “ .

The main box features a depressed center area inset  approximately ½”-7/16” deep.  The depressed area is divided into five segments. There is a horizontal line at about midway up the depression, with  three  horizontal lines dividing the upper half into equal segments.  These three equal sized segments may be weathered light grey or dirty white.

There are three circular buttons approximately ¼” to 5/16” diameter below the bottom horizontal segment line, arranged horizontally toward the right side of the depression. These are black in color.

The bottom bevel of the rocket pack features a black rectangle on the right size of the bevel, approximately 2” tall by 2.5” wide. Horizontal black lines extend to the left from the upper and lower edge of the rectangle.

The pack center box may be lightly weathered.

The rocket exhaust ports are mounted to either side of the pack center box, curved at the top and are beveled at the bottom. They are mounted ½” below the surface of the pack center box.   The bottom of the exhaust  ports feature rectangular nozzles, inset into the exhaust port, and may extend ½” below the top of the bevel. This area is weathered per the reference photos.  There are two medium to dark grey rectangles 3/4” by 2” just above the exhaust nozzles.

The left rocket nozzle has a raised rectangle approximately 2 ½” wide by four inches long.

Rocket nozzles and ports may be lighly weathered.

The fuel tanks is slightly wider overall than the backpack. The center barrel section is as wide as the center section of the main backpack box, and is mounted directly on top of it. A horizontal groove divides it into top and bottom sections.

Two truncated cones extend to the right and left side of the barrel, ending in flat depressed caps which feature raised rings inside he flattened ends. 20 grooved depressions are seen near the ends of the tank. The outermost part of the caps  are painted light to medium grey.  The back side of the tank features two vertical oblong depressions 3/8” by 1.5” long, painted a light orange / peach color.  This is not the same color used on the helmet and shoulderbell.

The fuel tank may be supported by plastic structure as seen in reference material to help hold it stable.

 

Level 2

The backpack is as close to screen accurate as possible.

The black rectangle and horizontal lines in the lower bevel of the rocket pack may be made of separate individual plates instead of black lines to represent the separations.

Tank end cap layout should match reference photos as closely as possible.

 

I liked this draft for the pack.

The only thing I suggest for it is in level 2 of the pack, it should light up. 

 

 

With the original draft for the suit, it said only overlap construction is allowed. 

Are we going to confirm that? 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I'll go through the details again tonight but I agree with the L2 to light up. Also I'd say we remove the verbiage for overlap vs butt-joint and just say "fully closed". That is what they updated the TK Commander and TK Incinerator to on FISD. My initial references for some of the verbiage was the overlap vs butt-joint but it looks like they changed it with new command and I agree with it.

[14166[TX]]

Alright perfect I like that idea. 

 

And I’ll have to take pictures tomorrow, I got a little busy today...

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

hey troopers just to confirm, when you say light up, do you mean the two vertical orange slots in the back of the tank area? 

I can alter the verbiage to "fully closed"

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

On 1/15/2019 at 12:09 PM, Tarrif said:

This is a work in progress. 

Reference Images: Rocket Trooper CRL

 

Blackwatch edits in green per discussion above. Only the parts relevent to that discussion are below

 

 

Upper Arm Armor (biceps) 

• Biceps are fully closed. (Source)

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Bicep armor is lightly scuffed or battle worn.
• Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed. (Source)
  • Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded in to the part.

Forearms

• Forearms are fully closed. (Source)

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• No return edge on the inside of the front of the forearm is allowed. (Source)
• Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed. (Source)
  • Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded in to the part.

Thigh Armor

• Thigh armor shall be closed in the back.
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh secured with three rivets. (Source)
  • One rivet on each end of the ammo belt.
  • One rivet between the third and fourth ammo boxes, counting left to right.
• The bottom corners of the thigh ammo belt are rounded off.

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• The rivets used shall be split rivets or pop rivets.
• thigh armor shall be fully closed in front and back
• Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed.
  • Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded in to the part. (Source)

Lower Leg Armor

• Greaves close in the back.
• The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave and has two visible rivets securing it to the greave. (Source)

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Sniper knee plate must be aligned with the ridges on the shin.
• Lower leg armor shall be fully closed in front and back.
• Overlap construction must be used. Butt joints and cover strips are not allowed.
  • Overlap construction is only allowable for kits that come with the cover strip molded in to the part. (Source)

 

 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@Blackwatch This is edited on the original post?

Also...I created a reference thread for the our pictures.  There are more to add once I get them downloaded.  The threads were also moved into their own Rocket Trooper section as we prep to move this out of the Research area.

Uploading the pics...I noticed that we have references for no chest box.  Optional item?  @14166 would you be able to take pics of both types of troopers w/ and without chest?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

@Blackwatch yeah the light part refers to that orange slots on the fuel tank. 

[14166[TX]]

yeah I can do it with the box off. I just don’t hovi tips on that helmet anymore... @Raider

[14166[TX]]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ujtyw61qd2psbve/AACm-kJRhJH4F8MKlbW33YiAa?dl=0

 

Heres the updated model pictures. 

 

I forgot to take pictures without the box! 

[CrookKnight[501st]]

Looks awesome 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

The proportions on that pack look so much better. You can really see it from the side shots.  EXCELLENT!!!  @CrookKnight Thanks for working with @14166 on getting that right.

Can you send me all the links to download the final pics (everything) we can use for the CRL?  I want to see the entirety of what we have, what extra shots we may need, etc and get them edited.

And so yea...would a no box version be doable for you or no?

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I like it! @CrookKnight appreciate you getting that over to @14166 as fast as you did, this is a well done costume. 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

@14166 How is that box connected to the chest plate? Screws or velcro? I've seen both before. If it is removable I'd say he doesn't have to have it on, right @Raider?

[14166[TX]]

10 minutes ago, Raider said:

The proportions on that pack look so much better. You can really see it from the side shots.  EXCELLENT!!!  @CrookKnight Thanks for working with @14166 on getting that right.

Can you send me all the links to download the final pics (everything) we can use for the CRL?  I want to see the entirety of what we have, what extra shots we may need, etc and get them edited.

And so yea...would a no box version be doable for you or no?

I'm glad we got it! Thanks again @CrookKnight

 

Yes sir, I'll send you a PM now. @Raider

 

1 minute ago, IcyTrooper said:

@14166 How is that box connected to the chest plate? Screws or velcro? I've seen both before. If it is removable I'd say he doesn't have to have it on, right @Raider?

 

It's screwed in and I had to take the hovi tips out of the helmet for the hoses. @Raider @IcyTrooper

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

@14166 Ahhh got yah, yeah that seems like a lot of work with the hoses for the helmet too.

[14166[TX]]

Yeah at first we tried to leave the tips there, but the hoses were being very stubbron about it. @Raider check your PM's.

 

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@14166 gotcha. Well if it isnt doable that is what it is.  Maybe down the line you can do the other version hint hint hint lol.  Or another trooper can step up n do it.

[14166[TX]]

Just now, Raider said:

@14166 gotcha. Well if it isnt doable that is what it is.  Maybe down the line you can do the other version hint hint hint lol.  Or another trooper can step up n do it.

We'll work on it too. lol

[RAIDER[COTG]]

Got it.  And as a heads up, I will be on vacation for a bit and wont be able to really get this setup for publishing until after the first week of July.  Since he has been here helping w it maybe I can delegate getting the photos edited and organized to @IcyTrooper if he is up to it

[14166[TX]]

3 minutes ago, Raider said:

Got it.  And as a heads up, I will be on vacation for a bit and wont be able to really get this setup for publishing until after the first week of July.  Since he has been here helping w it maybe I can delegate getting the photos edited and organized to @IcyTrooper if he is up to it

Ahh Gothca. Hopefully @IcyTrooper is willing to do it!

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

@Raider @14166 I can try if I check back on how it was done before with the other costumes. I have a manager on vacation until 7/8 right now and we are launching a new city on 7/4 so I could have a hectic schedule.

Just let me know what I gotta do!

[RAIDER[COTG]]

@Blackwatch @14166   While I'm out of town if you're able to settle on a final pack description and review that the entire CRL looks good and matches references.

@IcyTrooper will take care of getting the editors on the pics and compiling them into a folder/link for me so they're ready for publishing and will update the reference pictures thread (I've uploaded all the pics but something glitched and undid my placing/sorting of them within the thread).

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

 

@Raider  the original post was Tarris so I cannot edit that, but I can CCP the whole thing so we can review it all at once, I only made suggested changes to the construction parts of the armor.  Ill also make the change to the orange lights. 

[Blackwatch[CMD-DCA]]

Rocket Trooper

Helmet

• Tears have 5 vertical black lines. 
• Lenses may be flat or bubble, smoke or green in color, sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. 
• The "ear" bars have three or four bumps, and is grey or painted grey, with a black outline. 
  • Painting the bumps with rank stripes (Highlighted) in black is optional.
• Frown is painted black and overlaps the teeth area. Eight total teeth on the frown are cut out. 
• Mesh may be used behind the frown to obscure the face of the wearer. 
• Tube stripes are medium blue and can be between 9 and 16 per side with the curve bends extending backwards. 
• Rubber black trim runs the length of the brow from the left to right front helmet traps. 
• Vocoder (vertically ribbed chin detail) is painted grey. 
• Area around the vocoder is painted black, matching the reference photos. 
• Tears, traps, and tube stripes should be decals, but can be hand painted, or decals that replicate hand painted.
• Traps/tears may be either ANH gray or a slightly bluer shade of ANH gray. 
• A mohawk runs across the top of the helmet from the brow to just before the curve at the rear bottom of the helmet. 
  • Width of the mohawk is approximately 1.5" (38mm) and tapers slightly towards the base.
  • At the front of the mohawk is a widows peak approximately 1/2" (12mm) and matches reference photos. 
  • The bottom of the widows peak overlaps a portion of the brow trim. 
  • A solid orange line approximately 3/8" (10mm) in width runs the length of the mohawk matching the reference photo. 
    • The line terminates near the rear of the mohawk and is followed by two squares of the same width and color. 
    •  The color of the line matches the orange used on the left shoulder bell. 
• Grey stripes approximately 1" (25mm) run parallel to the mohawk and end at the base of the rear traps. 
  • Two long triangles approximately 2" (50mm) in length protrude from each stripe matching reference photos. 
• A grey rectangle approximately 1.5" (38mm) by .5" (12mm) is painted on the rear of the helmet below the mohawk.
• Two hoses are attached to the helmet, one on each side of the vocoder in the indentation where the mic tips would be. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Ears have no visible screws per side. 
• Traps/tears and tube stripes are decals (with the correct ROTJ details), not hand-painted.
• Traps/tears are a slightly bluer shade of ANH gray. 
• The ends of the frown are rounded, not tapered to points (not like ANH/ESB) and not squared ended like the ESB MKII. 
• Ear bars have four bumps only, not three. 
• Eye lenses are bubble style and tinted green. 
• Ear bars have only two bumps painted in black (rank stripes). 
• Neck trim is of an U-type profile rather than a S-type profile. 
• Mesh must be used behind the frown to obscure the face of the wearer. 

Hoses

• Grey ribbed hoses with a 1.25" (30mm) diameter on each end and 15" to 21" (38CM to 51 CM) of length from the helmet hose ports to the upper chest box hose ports.
• Hose from the 1st to 5th rib from the helmet is white in color.  

Neck Seal

• Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.

Under Suit

• Black non-textured material, either one-piece or two-piece construction with no visible zippers or logos. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Black textured material with horizontal ribbing, either one or two pieces with no visible zippers or logos.  

Shoulder Straps

• These shall be securely mounted in front and may free float in back. 
• The front of the shoulder straps do not have a wide flat area only small ridges. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Only 4 ridges of the shoulder straps overlap the chest plate. 
• Rear of shoulder straps are temporarily secured at the back using velcro or magnets and do not free float. 

Shoulder Armor

• One on each shoulder. 
• The right side shoulder bell is white in color. 
• The left side shoulder bell is orange in color with a black Imperial cog painted on the center line.
• Black imperial cog may be decal or painted for Level 1 approval. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• The shoulder bells appear to have battle damage. 
• Black imperial cog is hand painted and weathered/ worn in appearance. 

Upper Arm Armor (biceps) 

• Biceps are fully closed. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Bicep armor is lightly scuffed or battle worn.

Forearms

• Forearms are fully closed. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• No return edge on the inside of the front of the forearm is allowed. 

 

Hand Plates

• These shall be clam shell, or snowtrooper-style hand plates. 
• The hand plates shall be mounted securely over the back of the glove. 

Gloves

• Black in color, made of either nylon, kevlar, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/designs. 

Chest

• Chest plate overlaps the abdominal plate. 
• A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip is present around all edges.  

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Fabric or elastic strip connecting chest to back is either black or not present.

 

Chestbox

• The chestbox is required to have the same configurations as seen in the photo. 
• The box has five 1" square x 1/8th" (25mm by 3mm) thick detail pieces.
  •     Buttons are arranged arranged in two rows. Top row: red, white. Bottom row: red, black, white. 
  •     Configuration matches the reference photo.
• There is a 1/8" (3mm)thick black or dark grey pinstripe border around the square detail pieces
• There are two  3/4" (18 mm )round indicator lights above the rocker switches. One white, one red respectively.
• There are 3 rocker switches below the round indicator lights. 
  •     The rockers are always gray, white, gray. 
  •     The gray rockers have red dots or lamps in their bottom.
• There is a 1/8"  (3mm) thick black pinstripe that runs horizontally across the bottom portion of the box.
• There is a male silver snap and a silver round disc with cone knob on the lower portion of the box below the horizontal pinstripe.
• There are two "gear" type greeblies affixed to either end of the lower tube portion of the box. Theses greeblies are silver in color. 
• Any lights or LED's added to the chest box are required to be approved by GML. 

Back

• Back plate contains a "O II" design.
• A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip is present around all edges. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Back Armor has no overlap, or minimal overlap of the kidney plate

Rocket Pack:

Styled after the pack as seen in the battlefront II video game. An interpretation of the pack is allowed, but screen accuracy is encouraged.

Comprised of the main pack box, fuel tank at the top of the pack and exhaust ports at the left and right bottom of the pack.

Main pack box is rectangular in shape, flat at the top and beveled at the bottom, stopping above the thermal detonator.

The backpack fuel tank shall not rise above the bottom of the helmet lower edge.

It is mounted to the armor backplate   “0 II “ .

The main box features a depressed center area inset  approximately ½” by 7/16”  (12mm by 19mm ) deep  divided into five segments.

The upper half of the depression features three horizonal lines roughly 1/2" (12mm) thick, and are dirty white or light weathered grey. 

Three black buttons are located below the horizontal lines, to the right of the depression.  Buttons are 1/4" to 5/16" (8-9mm) in diameter. 

The bottom  right side of the center of the pack features a 2" by 2.5" (50mm by 62mm) black rectangle , which has black lines extending horizontally to the left. 

The pack center box may be lightly weathered.

The rockets are mounted to either side of the pack center box, curved at the top and are beveled at the bottom. They are mounted ½” (12mm) below the surface of the pack center box.   The bottom of the exhaust  ports feature rectangular nozzles, and may extend ½”  (12mm) beyond the housings. 

There are two medium to dark grey rectangles 3/4” by 2” j(19mm by 50mm) just above the exhaust nozzles.

The left rocket nozzle has a raised rectangle approximately 2 ½”(62mm) wide by four inches long.

This area is weathered per the reference photos.  

The fuel tanks is  barrel shaped and no wider than the backpack. The center barrel section is as wide as the center section of the main backpack box, and is mounted directly on top of it.

The ends of the barrel feature flat depressed caps with raised rings inside he flattened ends. 20 grooved depressions are seen near the ends of the tank. The back side of the tank features two vertical oblong depressions 3/8” by 1.5” (10mm by 32mm) long,  light orange / amber in color.  This is not the same color used on the helmet and shoulderbell. The outermost part of the caps  are painted light to medium grey to match references. 

The fuel tank may be supported by plastic structure as seen in reference material to help hold it stable.

Level 2

The backpack is as close to screen accurate as possible.

The black rectangle and horizontal lines in the lower bevel of the rocket pack may be made of separate individual plates instead of black lines to represent the separations.

Tank end cap layout should match reference photos as closely as possible.

The orange/ amber segments on the barrel shaped tank shall be illuminated to match reference images. 

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Abdomen Armor

• A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip is present around all edges. 
• The Abdomen Armor has a button area that matches the color pattern shown (3 dark blue + 6 charcoal grey or black) (Source)
  •     Buttons are approximately 7/16" (11mm) in diameter. 
  •     The three dark blue buttons will be the three buttons closest to the belt.
• Abdomen Armor button area detail matches reference photos. 

Kidney & Posterior Armor

• A white flexible U shaped gasket or molded lip shall be present around all edges. 
• A separate kidney/butt plate is not allowed - the kidney and butt plate shall be combined/fused to a single plate/one piece.
• The crotch tab of the butt plate area may have visible snaps. 
• The edges of the hip area should be rounded/curved.

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Kidney/Butt plate should be lightly scuffed (battle worn), but not weathered.

Belt

• Belt face is made of plastic (TK ammo belt).
• Corners of ammo belt are cut at right angles. 
• The soft belt proper is tightly woven nylon style material. 
  •     Size is approximately 2" (50mm) wide.
  •     The color is to be white to off-white.
• The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the front plastic belt (ammo belt) via black straps and are aligned under the left and right outermost boxes of the ammo belt. 
• The belt closes by overlapping in the rear center of the Kidney / Posterior armor where the Thermal Detonator is attached. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• There are two rivets, one on each side of the ammo belt aligned to the ends of the plastic belt.
• The belt is a 2" (50mm) wide textile belt, off-white in color.
• The belt has tight horizontal ribbing. 
• Drop boxes are closed in the back.

Thermal Detonator (AKA CO2 Canister)

• Attaches to the center back of the belt. 
• This is an all gray cylinder without silver stickers or silver paint.
  • The cylinder is between 2” (50mm) and 2.68"(68mm) in diameter with white end caps on each end.
  • The white control panel pad faces upwards, with controls/round washer style detail closest to the right end cap.
  • The total length should be approximately the same width of the raised area of the Kidney / Postier armor. 
• The thermal detonator is attached via white colored clips approximately 1/2" (12.7mm) to 3/4" (19mm) wide. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Thermal detonator belt clips are positioned half way between center of detonator and the end cap. 
• The thermal detonator control panel has correct ROTJ details, not ANH/ESB. 

Thigh Armor

• Thigh armor shall be closed in the back.
• The small ammo belt is installed on the bottom of the right thigh secured with three rivets. 
  • One rivet on each end of the ammo belt.
  • One rivet between the third and fourth ammo boxes, counting left to right.
• The bottom corners of the thigh ammo belt are rounded off.

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• The rivets used shall be split rivets or pop rivets.
• Thigh armor shall be fully closed in front and back.

 

Lower Leg Armor

• Greaves close in the back.
• The trapezoid knee plate (sniper knee plate) is affixed to the left greave and has two visible rivets securing it to the greave. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Sniper knee plate must be aligned with the ridges on the shin.
• Lower leg armor shall be fully closed in front and back. 

Boots

• Boots are above ankle height and made of white leather or leather-like material. 
• Small U-shaped elastic sections on both sides of the ankle.
• Flat sole with a short heel.
• No buckles or laces.
• Jodhpur/ Chelsea-type boots or an equivalent style is acceptable.
• Elvis or Mariachi boots are not allowed. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• There is no seam present on the front of the boot.

 

Optional Accessories
Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.

RT-97C Heavy Blaster Rifle
Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the RT-97C features a long barrel to increase the firing range of the energy beam projectile. Three scopes increase accuracy and versatility. The first scope is an energy scanner capable of detecting life forms. The second scope is a rangefinder that automatically adjusts the targeting components. The third scope uses infrared heat imaging technology.

• Based on a real or replica MG-15 machine gun. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Correct style scopes.
• Silver metal hose is present on the right hand side of barrel between the trigger and "saddle barrel".

DLT-19 Heavy Blaster Rifle
Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle is much more powerful with a much greater range than the E-11 blaster. Because of its powerful, long range capabilities, this rifle is commonly used on Imperial controlled planets with large, clear, open areas.

• Based on a real or replica MG-34 machine gun. 

 

• OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• A DLT-19 is an MG-34 with T-tracks on the barrel, ejection port cover added, and a small disk on left side.

 

OK here is the updated CRL

 

*** Comment on the hoses.  I just set up four chestboxes and helmets with hoses.  the JRS chose this length, but its kind of impractical for trooping. I set all hose lengths to 23 inches to help with moving your head around.   It also depends on what you use. Scuba hose is flexible and looks like the hose seen in the CGI art.  The medical/dental hose recommended for Mudtroopers also looks like this.   Just a thought on the length of the hose.   @IcyTrooper and @14166  can you comment? 
 

What info do we have on the rocket launcher ? I don't know anything about it, is it approved elsewhere? 

[IcyTrooper[CMD-DL]]

I'd say for the hose length that range is good, allows for optimal comfort and flexibility based on different body types. I can't remember what my TIE is set at but I definitely came down a bit on them because originally, as you said, it was impractical for trooping.

I scoured the other CRLs for the RPS-6 Rocket Launcher and haven't found any other approval on it on other detachments. We may have to scratch build that one down the road.