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Hi Guys, Ive spent the past few weeks designing the moulds for the ISB. Theyre also available as files however Ive converted these parts into Vac forming moulds. Ill be posting progress here. First are the renders. If there is anything that catches your eye that should be changed please let me know. Ive done my best to extrapolate some stuff from blurry screen caps from Andor as well as get other info from similar parts like the mud trooper from other media. CC welcome. If anyone wants the files they can be found HERE.7 points
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The cord actually isn’t present on any suits made for either season of andor that I can remember, it’s still the split design but it’s purely relying on the rigidity of the biceps themselves to keep closed at the back, sometimes we had guys with larger biceps where they had gaps at the back but we actively tried to keep those guys away from camera especially in any shots that were behind, this goes for tac team, security troopers, army troopers etc5 points
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before moving on to any other discussion, i want to clear and lock this text. Once this is agreed upon , we will move forward. final text proposal. Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Chest armor is painted gloss white to match visual references. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required. Back armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor, shin and arm armor. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.5 points
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So Variant elements: No suspenders. (defining element) Does not have the two front angled pouches other IATs have on their belt. (defining element) Wears cap, not helmet. Code cylinder may or may not be present. Belt would have at least two smaller pouches per side. in several shots there seems to also be a low slung pouch on the left-side rear. I would assume these would be minimum requirements, with other pouches allowed like the other variants. The ones helping the general have rectangles drawn above the left chest pocket; some sort of identifier, either as a medic or a rank bar? Optional TK Belt and E-11. I have the required items for this variant and can pose for CRL pics if it would help. I'd love to get feedback and see these three things included in the CRL. Thanks for your time and attention!4 points
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We've had a request to amend the CRL for the Imperial Army Trooper. I will keep this topic open until the end of the month, when it will be closed and discussed by Staff. Currently CRLs are not being updated due to ongoing maintenance and overhaul issues with the Legion CRL system, so we can discuss, but also have to wait our turn for publising anything. Please see this topic so we do not re-cover ground already discussed. Reference photos Reference Photos3 points
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Hi everyone, I’m currently only on page 2 of this topic for the ISB Tactical Agent’s CRL. Someone mentioned me by name (Kevin Weir -Imperial Surplus) on page 1 about my IG comment on the Buckles being different. I was referring to the Leg Strap Buckles. They are nothing like what has previously been used on new era characters. Also for the Back Plate Armor - the top hose bibs are not hollow for Andor. Only Solo and Mando show had them hollow. Andor 1 & 2 casted them solid with just a slight recessed center - slightly raised lip. Also should there be any mention of the side connectors, that are a fixed to the lower side of back armor. They wrap around towards the front belly. A 2” elastic belly strap is used through the 2 slots on each end to hold it together. Also only Velcro was used to affix the Chest to these side connectors for the screen used suits. I'm currently getting ready for SDCC next week. I’ll have more time afterwards to assist with more detail information about these characters.3 points
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Hey guys, thought I would throw out a tidbit concerning weapons and Level 2. Weapons are not required for any type of approval, but if they are included in approval photos they must meet the Level being applied for. With that being said, if you are going for Level 2 and your weapons are only Level 1, don't use them in the photos. For the L2 action shot you can point, fist bump, peace sign etc and it counts as an action photo. By the way any DT L2 approvals come my way for input.3 points
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@DarthBerry Alright...here's an initial review of your kit at the moment based on the last set of pics: HELMET: For level 1, it looks like you have all of the details met. The only constructive critiques I'd offer here is the camo on the rear of the helmet. It looks as if it is being used to uniformly to conceal the center seam on most scout buckets. I'd like to see that broken up a bit if possible. And then the rear helmet decal lines...they look roughly put on there...those should probably be applied more cleanly. The missing Level 2 reqs if you chose to do them would be the concave helmet bolts. BALACLAVA - Present. FLIGHT SUIT (this is probably the piece where we might have to see a bit more adjustments..I'm open to hearing others opinions): The butt flap needs to be a bit longer to cover the butt. The thigh patches...to me they look positioned to far on the front of your thighs, not enough on the rear, and a bit too rounded. Due to the shape of the patch, the straps look to be further in to the thigh at the upper part of the patch. I would reference you to the standard scout CRL (as you can see the patches a bit better on the pictures they have to see the patch/strap orientation a bit better: https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TB_Scout_trooper or here https://databank.501st.com/databank/File:Thigh_patches_and_straps.png NOTE: The L2 requirement is that the riding patches are removed entirely and the elastic straps circle the entire thigh...so I'd offer that as a solution...discreetly sewing the straps to the flight suit w/out the patches. "Stand-up collar conceals the neck with an enclosing strap to keep the collar closed." Your collar looks to have a button which would be unacceptable. Normally there is a strap that wraps over the neck and then a hidden button or velcro straps it down to the flight suit. The Scout Trooper CRL offers a good image in the reference gallery: https://databank.501st.com/databank/File:Collar.png SHOULDERS: Level 1 elements appear present. Level 2 would require rounded bottom corners of the bells and then the actual measure of the straps. BICEP ARMOR - Appears to meet L1...strapping to verify for L2. FOREARM ARMOR: L1 appears met...strapping to verify for L2. Minor critique...maybe thin the weathering lines a bit in the curves. GLOVES - Meet L1 and appear to meet L2. VEST - Meets L1 and appears to meet L2. CHEST: Appears to meet L1. Would want to verify the material being used on the shoulder strap covers and material for straps under the arms connecting chest to back. For L2 would need to verify strap measures and materials. BACK: Appears to meet L1 reqs. Would want to verify the top tank greeblie is entirely black. For L2, rank stripes would need to be added to both sides of the tank. The tank top greeblie would need to be removed entirely. If a rivet at the bottom of the tank is present, it should be painted to match armor (not silver). BUND: Appears to meet most L1 and L2 reqs...I would add, the way you have your pouches situated is great. My only concern here is the codpiece...it seems too thin and we also can see the stitching at the bottom...that should wrap a bit under the crotch and not be so visible. Again, I'd reference you to the standard scout (or even Shadow Scout) CRLs to see the shape of the codpiece as well as the positioning of the curved sewn detail which seems high. BELT/DET - Appears to meet L1 and L2 reqs. Would need to verify strap measures and materials. KNEES: Appears to meet most L1 reqs. The only issue I see here...you're utilizing the upper strap but there appears to be no lower strap. The CRL says you can use 2 (implying 1 is optional), BUT if you only opt for 1...it should be the lower. See the L2 req. Also note this reference image showing the bottom strap being used only: BOOTS (this version of your boots is a big improvement): Appears to meet the L1 reqs. My only questions here: What is the color of the boot sole? What is the material used for the dog bone/toe? Everything else (blasters, neck seal) is optional and not required...so I think that covers everything. Tagging @Dropkick here so he can tag additional Scout DCAs for feedback (or critiques of my feedback) as well as @IcyTrooper and @tipperaryred since theyve been helping along the way. Getting close!3 points
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troopers we are off track. While the discussion IS necessary, we need to focus back to the CRL text dicussion. We are now officially off in the weeds. This is why we go one item at atime. One item, once bullet point, one discussion.3 points
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I see what you mean now. I still think its being kept of the main body by some struts, we can see those here But I think you're right that the top barrel is still using its mount hardware on a picatinny. This is what I think we are seeing, and I hate it as a way to mount a scope. Here's my mock up. Pink being the picatinny in question, right side pink is a more printed friendly version I'll likely use.3 points
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Working on the attachment point for the scopes looks like a strut attaching near the middle or upper middle of portion attaching the scopes together. I'm going to be using two struts. I wasn't able to catch a shot that shows more than one but given the thickness of them even made of metal I don't think one would be secure. As far as it attaching to the body of the blaster we can see a rail mounted to the side in line with the take down pins. I'll go ahead work on these next.3 points
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Hi Raymond. I am not an expert on the Shadow trooper but am very familiar with the original trilogy stormtroopers. The male snaps in the photo are not part of the CRL but are used to hold the belt in place on the abdomen armor. They are not seen, nor are they required but I think almost every one uses this method to attach the belt. For the Thigh armor, the rivets used to attach the thigh ammo belt are usually split rivets with a cap size around 5/16 inch or 8 mm similar to these https://www.abbeyengland.com/bifurcated-rivet-nickel-plated-12-3-16-7-9-gauge-g04701 https://www.rivetsonline.com/rivets/split-rivets-bifurcated-rivets?srsltid=AfmBOooqXMY4LTpmaMbAm1SzdHwSU5fJxMZgQTJst9u_iMRrp9i5lNM6 For the holster connection to the belt, they are usually pop rivets but can be snaps or chicago screws or even the double cap rivets you have shown above. These would be similar to what was used on the CRL model https://www.amazon.com/ISPINNER-100pcs-Aluminum-Blind-Rivets/dp/B08KXJ969Y/ref=sr_1_7?crid=12NETAZBYCVTM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MgjFJAJYXFRF8tA45YieA49uDkCshp_ck6CAsBRBGBXmc71SUJt3EQXZfcqacnUsls_YQZAqjOV7EDVoBN7dwxFyToZFS33AZYTKIxYCoN74WaZOlpTkGoyce89w4x5f0fZvZWIDGrGulGQfTGH_kiDkOQBOPIFNldUEj_dhBXKsor6DRep2E6__WXeHacXCJ9ZdLm492vJmoJe6bq4ozGGRCqbICHmYuBEjJMDQrI0.eh_XeMAPlI116ZuEAcNiY0AeNoDTEjDMxqkDufQh1HY&dib_tag=se&keywords=7%2Bmm%2Bpop%2Brivet&qid=1750771805&sprefix=7mm%2Bpop%2Brivet%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-7&th=1 Hope this helps3 points
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Will do, I'm going to suit up again this weekend in Albuquerque for Duke City Con. Hoping up get a bunch there3 points
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Make sure to get loads of images at troops, & post them in your recon dragons so we can use them for our social feeds.3 points
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Good call Jarred thanks for posting that! Ill make that change. So, without rewriting all the text, a simple removal and change here and on the chest and back armor text will suffice: Chest Plate: Chest shall be painted gloss white to match helmet and back armor. Back Plate: Back plate is painted to match the chest, armor and helmet arms and shin armor.3 points
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@DoggyDoc and @Chaos - thank you both for replying ( @DoggyDoc I have a close family member who has a Mac and does design work, so I can get them to help changing the file type and slightly editing the file format). Sending you both PMs for the files you each have I'll post an update here showing my blaster after I use what you guys shared with me. I'll be sure to pass along the resources to future fellow DTs as well2 points
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Fair enough. I'll hope to have a prototype done up next week, but I'll have to wait until the name tape arrives for the final pictures. I'll keep everyone in the loop!2 points
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Shoulder and Bicep proposed text with changes noted in red srikethrough, green and amber alteration change log 1.0 Shoulder Armor One on each shoulder The shoulders are considered effectively symmetrical; they may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders. and may have a black elastic strap that wraps around the inside of the bicep. webbing or velcro is permitted to keep the shoulder armor in place. Shoulder armor may be held up with a strap mounted under the shoulder bridge. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): There is no swoop on the shoulder bell raised area. There is no elastic strap that wraps around the inside of the bicep. Change Log 1.0 Bicep Armor Biceps are a split design, joined in the front. A slim gap may be present at the back of the bicep. Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with an added strip layer on top. Biceps are painted to match the armor and helmet.2 points
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If you have someone who has a Silhouette cutting machine I have a file to use. When I was not working overseas I had them in my Etsy shop. I used chrome adhesive vinyl to cut the decal out. It has been on my pistol for years and has not peeled off at all. LOL someone that I gave the file to some years ago has started selling them. Kind of a dick move since I gave the file to him but it is what it is. If you want the file send me a PM and I'll send it to you.2 points
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Hi Marc I used a decal to create the circuit pattern. The trick was that it is very difficult to print silver on a decal as it just doesn't show up. The solution was to paint the area where the circuit goes in silver and print the reverse decal in black. Unfortunately I used a mac for the graphic and have since switched to PC. the file is saved in mac paint (.paint extension) format, so I can not open it to convert it to something usable. If you have a mac, I can get the graphic to you, otherwise you may need to design it or have someone do it for you.2 points
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Hey guys. the LEDs for basic approval are optional, so you can have them there or leave them out. If you will be going for level 2 approval, they need to be there and they need to work.2 points
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Jim uses flexible fibreglass for his armour parts, which is just as easy to work with as ABS. It's a good bit thicker & as the name says, quite flexable, which is very handy. There's also little or no prep work, other than a light sanding to remove any dust prior to the primer coat. From memory, I gave the armour 1 coat of primer & two coats of paint with 1 or two coats of varnish, with a little light sanding btween coats.2 points
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Hey there @Jonesy Great choice of armour build by the way. I have sourced both soft & armour parts (including the helmet from Jim & I'm very happy with what I got. I've cleared version 1 & 2 & will be getting images taken as soon as I can for the version 3 with the helmet.2 points
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Firstly, thanks. I was in love with this kit since we saw it in the teaser trailer. Its been a joy to be one the leading edge of making this. And yeah, I went aluminum bar for my struts so I could drill it without a press and bend it without having to use a blowtorch. I'll be looking into combining what we've cobbled together into a single file, as the MP 40 I used is far more complex than it needs to be for this build, and so I can model everything I've been drilling into it.2 points
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Thanks for sending that in, Greg. I've had to step back from the 501st for a little bit due to some outside the 501st things going on in life. I'll do the best I can the next 30 days to take a look at this. I'm going to be away from home for about 3 weeks with a work project. I'll tag @Dropkick and @BlacXabbath in here as well.2 points
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Sounds good to me! I had to take a break from here for a little bit, had a lot going on outside of the 501st. The next month is going go be a whirlwind for me 🤪2 points
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Hello Alex, Ryan & Calvin, I've gone through the 2019 proposed CRL item by item and made some revisions and adjustments for the red SITH Jet Trooper CRL update. I have all the armor components laid out and ready to start photographing for the CRL proposal. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Greg TX42727 Proposed CRL 30-June-2025.docx2 points
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Hello all, Not sure if I am the member being mentioned asking for CRL additions, but since this is open I'll share a couple ideas I'd like to see included: #1 - Optional Use of Sidearm/Holster In several frames IAT can be seen wearing holsters. They are not vehicle crews nor engineers/sappers as they are drawn like IATs. While specific model is not known, a safe assumption would be the SE-14R as that what Sunber carries so the unit is obviously issued them. It is also the most common sidearm in the Empire. . Cross draw holster Cross draw holster Strong-side holster Strong-side holster Strong-side holster They all seem to be enclosed holsters with a flap over top. I'd assume done in nylon like the rest of their pouches, so something like this or similar: The trick would be to get one sized for a SE-14R. I suppose Sunber's holster could also be permitted, being in the unit's inventory. Either the standard black leather/leather-like one the officers have which looks similar, or his combat uniform drop leg version (which wouldn't be as shown but the design exists and is in the unit's inventory. #2 - Optional Thermal Detonator Not a pouch, worn in the same location as TDs are drawn. I have a third one, but ran out of allowable picture space so it'll be added below.2 points
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back on again. still awaiting on armor i get too impatient sometimes lol. unfortunate new as my printers are down after printing my mcm E11D in PETG and i decided to switch up the helmet to mcm designs. i sent the files off to get printed in resin so hopefully in the next two weeks my helmet should be at my doorstep. it was gonna be easier to finish and paint and put together and i have my paints on the way as well. i might buy a fully finished SE14R just deciding who to pick it up from. other news i have my belt, pouches, gloves, holster, even a metal buckle and aluminum wrist mounts. oh as well as my 2 printed belt boxes once again thanks to doggydoc2 points
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I'll give the finishing a go this weekend for a suitup and see how it looks!2 points
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Test fitting the scope mount I think the struts needs to be under not over the bracket (which makes more sense looking at it now) I'll more than likely replace the struts with metal once I have them figured out to avoid wobbly scopes. Over all here is what I have so far. For the extra long 4x20's I've used the SE14 files over on whitearmor.net to get the ends and the knobs and roughly 13cm (I'll verify this once I'm back at my table) of .75 inch aluminum pipe to extend it. On my hit list: -Need some metal rods for the stock -A pen light for the under barrel (the one in the picture doesn't look right). -Hardware for the mount and any open pin/screw holes on the print. I plan on having some bondo and sanding on it by Sunday.2 points
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Just by this picture alone, they're all different. This got me thinking, so I did a quick breakdown of the Troopers as they get off the Shuttle Ramp Trooper 1 "Benzi": Rank Stripe + Radio on the Right side of the Chest, Trooper 2: Chest Rig + Radio on the Left, Trooper 3: Different lower belt with no Chest Boxes + Radio on the Left (I think this might be the guy wearing a backpack?), Trooper 4: Chest Rig + Goggles + Backwards officer cap + Seemingly no Radio at all, Trooper 5: "Standard" + Radio on the left, Trooper 6: Missing Shoulder + Diagonal bag + Radio on the Right, Trooper 7: Beanie + Fanny Pack + Radio on the Right, Trooper 8 "Gharial": Chest Rig, Rank Stripe + Radio on the left The same configuration doesn't appear twice. I think the best approach is to do what IOC did with their CRLs for a while: If specific accessories are chosen, the whole costume is to match the appearance of a character from an LFL licensed source.2 points
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Hi everyone, I’ve been a member and GML of the 501st FanWars Garrison Belgium for many years now (Darth Vader and Kylo Ren costumes), but I had never worn a full suit of armor until now ! I’ve decided to build a Death Trooper that I've wanted to do for a long time ! I recently got myself a BambuLab P1S printer, and so I took on the challenge of printing the full armor myself. A new adventure begins, and I’m already feeling a thrill I hadn’t felt in years. I’ve been working on the armor since late March, and I finally decided to share my progress here. ========================= Progress by Parts ========================= Helmet Files from MCM Design I made great progress this weekend. Still missing : The lenses (Bulbed Lens from OPLE Props, ordered early May, shipped on June 13, still waiting, it’s dragging a bit 😬) Ordering a rubber edge All electronics : LEDs, fans, padding, etc Armor Files from MCM Design Everything has been printed. Progress so far : Forearms, biceps and shoulder bells: painted but not weathered yet Currently working on the upper chest section (sanding, sanding and sanding) Shins and thighs will wait until the undersuit arrives, it's already tight with jeans on ! Belt I found the main belt material locally and ordered all the accessories from A&J Projects (awaiting delivery). Soft Parts Gloves received from Endor Finder Boots : I had purchased Talibs back when Rogue One came out, just in case, they’ve been waiting ever since ! Undersuit ordered from Jim Tripon (awaiting delivery) Blasters SR-14R ordered from A&J Projects (awaiting delivery) E-11D : printed from MCM files, fully assembled and base coat applied. Final painting still to come. I look forward to sharing my future progress with you !2 points
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Small additions to the gun to try and match the blurry screengrabs. Replacement Stock Cover: 1" Nuts bought off Amazon with a 3d printed larger screw sitting in the middle - one for either side. Repainted Body release catch: Pops out as silver on the pics so just removed and repainted. Also the grooves that are normally above this on various shots are no longer there so look to have been filled in to distance it slightly more from the base weapon. Scope Mount: Knowing this was a complete custom part it tried out my VERY basic design skills to make one to fit older, vintage 20mm tubed scope. If the sizing is about right we'll need 28-32cm long scope so this fits nicely with scopes used on other blasters like the Original Model 7 4x20 - ones on order so as soon as it arrives I'll test fit it, the one in the pic is a cheap plastic one.2 points
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Specifically, what changes are we talking? I'm a little confused. This is for the comic Imperial Army Trooper, not the Andor one.2 points
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As posted, there was a request to amend the CRL for the Imperial Army Trooper, with Blackwatch presenting links to older content and reference photos. I will be monitoring this discussion to discuss the possible changed that the members wanted to change. The post will stay open till the end of the month, so please let us know so we can actively discuss any changes. Blackskull2 points
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