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Not to divert from what youre working on too much….but are you sure the triangle isnt recessed?

If it helps, we did do some initial discussion on some parts hand plates and gauntlets and a little bit on the helmet here…but not much progress past that:

Do I dare push for a name change??? 😅😅😅

Right. Yes what we discovered was that the trading cards actually present different variations of Storm Commando and really, aside from one card, none are entirely true to the Shadow Scout…so the references were abandoned for that particular CRL in favor of the Star Wars Galaxies game model. That said, @IcyTrooper I think out of all the images I forwarded you, the Storm Commando SCOUT can be retained as a reference. It looks to be in line w the Shadow Scout and has the same naming of scout…Storm Commando/Shadow seem to have been interchangeable in all the games/comics/toys released. Even in SWG the character is called Storm Commando

Wish I could help here man but I got nothin.

For transparency, @BlakeZ messaged me and I gave him my opinion based on the last CRL update discussion (when we overhauled it quite a bit) but will hold it for now till other staff have had the chance to review the proposal @IcyTrooper @Dropkick @Blackwatch

Welcome @SefriusseDM! Ditto to everything mentioned by @Dropkick regarding armor. This is our vetted scout parts list (thanks in large part to our biker friends over at Pathfinders)…no 3d printed files there however, though i know several standard bikers and shadows have been approved using 3d files will research some for ya. The bandolier boxes/greeblies, we have files for those here: EDIT: These are the 3 approvable files they list at Pathfinders: MrPoopie Jesus Salmeron (helmet) Christhepropguy I will check w my friend who got approved using 3d files as well

@ArkZeroPrice Welcome! (This is David btw from the Tampa recruits group) You’re in good hands w/ the folks here. As far as local Mudtroopers in our area…none that Im aware of. Almost certain you’d be the first in our squad…even neighboring Makaze. Closest ones I know are down in South Florida/Miami area.

looks good @javi sanchez out of curiosity, did you attempt the level 2 back connection of the bandolier like the updated crl?

Getting 403 Forbidden error when attempting to post Imgur links in Recon kill count.

Looking to source a bubble lens. My bucket is an ATA (sadly the maker passed away)…Trooper Bay currently doesnt make them. Just reached out to WTF. Any other suggestions on where to find one? Thanks!

Thats odd he doesnt have parts to sell. Id try WTF or Trooperbay next.

Is Scotland considered UK garrison?

That just makes it easier to spot u n pick u off ?

I dont think theres a “pro or con” persay unless your kit is pulled in black…in which case you wouldnt have to paint the armor. You would still need to paint the helmet and get it to match the armor as close to its original gloss as possible. Personally, I prefer the satin look. My suggestion (not a requirement) is to maybe look around your garrison/area and see what other Shadows are using…because those are the ones you would be trooping alongside and Imperial uniformity among a unit does have a better overall look typically. Anyways, hope that helps a bit.

Yea @TeaJay I was aware of the bars…was just curious if a correlation between those and the hats existed…ie do all the guys wout bars have the same hat, all guys w bars have same hat and so on. But if it’s confirmed there is no correlation that answers my question. Thanks!

Do you think Tamaryn’s rank plays a part in the lines? Just thinking out loud

Another question then…if the goggles are affixed to the bucket/TU should the goggles be included in the helmet entry or have its own entry like the Mudtrooper?

Well done @BLACKFOX! Ur becoming a Spec Ops lifer! Unrelated to this…so about that Rocket Trooper update we discussed awhile ago….

@Detaleader Welcome! I think I agree with almost everything you say in principle. Since we took the Army in I think Ive always been of the mindset “we may have to let this go at some point” in spite of the crazy amount of hours I’ve put in personally to help give the IA a home here. My hope is we’ve made them feel welcome (it was an absolutely intentional effort) and that we’ve grafted and trained members on our staff who specialize in those builds (I think our current DCA staff alone has 4 IA types). All that to say, Im 100% for supporting the IA members of Spec Ops in whatever they choose…even if that means theyve outgrown the need for the Spec Ops umbrella. Out of curiosity @nanotek @IcyTrooper, whats our current ACTIVE count of members with IA costumes (granted I know that count could change a decent amount in a few dats when census ends and some possibly get moved to reserve/retired)?

@TeaJay @fb501 (and others) would the cast goggles qualify as a Level 2 requirement in your opinion OR a totally unnecessary add? I see the Level 1 requirement holds that the the strap would sit below the TU (like the Muddy) not on top. Remove or alter this line?

Just to chime in…and steer back to the original topic… IF (emphasis) you wish to pursue a 100% accurate build to a singular source I would definitely encourage it BUT that would be a much longer (quite possibly impossible) road to what you stated your goals were (membership to the det and specialist status). Nonetheless, Id be more than willing to help. In that case, we could end this particular topic n move to a build thread. I dont want to go down the rabbit hole of the survival guide topic you referenced (thats an entirely different subject not quite related to the original question posted)…I do have thoughts but that would take us way off road…so that aside… Going back to the very original topic of the collar…I think in either case whether attempting a comic-specific, trading card specific or video game specific build, I still dont see where a folded down collar or a collar that could be opened and split down the center would stand any check against references to be allowed where I still do feel from what I see that a closed collar holds more true to at least some of the references (though I would agree in others it isnt as apparent if it is a closed collar or simply fabric). The reference I posted earlier for example shows no “split” in the collar from which to fold down and open. It’s flat (“sealed”) fabric. All other references also show no split that would allow a fold-down. But with that said, if you are starting a build now for the current Shadow Scout and seeking approval (or have already started one) I think you should follow the current guidelines pertaining to the collar as I personally dont see anything that would justify an immediate change to the CRL. Im not sure if you are looking to source your flightsuit from Chef but I do know he makes (made) them with closed collars as he made my original flightsuit. Hope that helps.

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not sure if he wore this one but @Tarrif (Sebastian) wore something in Andor PS I will chip in my 2 cents on this topic at some point

The Shadow Scout (er Storm Commando) along w a few of our older CRLs created back when CRLs had much looser standards for getting created…coupled with changing staff (LMO and detachment) whose interpretation and/or enforcement of standards would (does) vary year to year. All that to say…the Shadow Scout was initially created off of a compilation of various references from various sources none of which really come close to matching each other let alone a ROTJ scout. Because of the varying sources, a literal approach (which seems more like what you’re suggesting or at least leaning) would require much more than addressing the collar…in actuality that would mean creating 3 or more separate CRLs or variations of the costume most of which would require specific customized armor parts. Speaking directly to the collar, there is at least one reference (possibly more) that do indicate an upright closed collar. But as you can see, the armor is much different than a standard scout here. At the last update, the team decided to maintain a “realistic” version of the costume which paralleled the ROTJ scout which started us down the path of narrowing the primary source to the SWG video game without totally trampling and upsetting all past Shadow Scouts…BUT it was definitely discussed as a topic about possibly adding variants to the CRL that mirrored the references independently…and then possibly renaming to Storm Commando…at some point in the future if we found willing builders. Long post ugh sorry…so yea, references that are all over the place and limited, alot of precedent w/ the CRL already (for better or worse)…make this one a tricky CRL. My personal take, emphasis this is just my personal opinion, I would love to see something like this happen: -Rename to Storm Commando and create variants specific to each reference (vid game, comic, trading card) and make a final decision to either continue or cease alignment w/ ROTJ for a “realistic” version…since it already exists we cant just delete it.