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Post up some pics for us to show off when ur approved. This costume is a rarity. Heres one i found of ya. I think i took one too but it didnt come out as nice.

I really need to get a 3D printer. Can you send me a link to purchase that cheaper one lolololol?

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It is being modified but yea I don't anticipate it being much work if any if he built it to the current CRL. Small world...I lived in Enfield till I was 5 and my parents moved us down here to Florida. I don't remember it much but that is where I'm from exactly lol.

So you were the Flametrooper in Chicago??? I got a pic of ya. Approved yet by chance? What's left to be done?

Just so you are aware...there will be a slight update to the CRL itself in the next week or so that we've worked on and had proposed for almost a year now. It primarily adjusts some Level 2 requirements. If you have any questions about it, I can give you more details and walk you through what you may need to adjust if you are going to attempt a Level 2 Specialist submission here (which would be awesome as we currently only have one Swamptrooper approved for Level 2). As far as Level 1 approval through your local GML, I would imagine you should be ok. If you'd like us to take a look at it, feel free to post full body pics and we can as well. P.S. What part of CT are you from? I was born there and still visit almost every year to see my in-laws (and to eat my favorite pizza...Sally's Apizza!!!)

I've contacted our LMO reps for Spec Ops...they've given me an initial response, but will mull it over further. I will update once they've had more time to think it through. I will say...pointing to FISD as to why we should allow it...that standard and logic cuts both ways. We can just as easily point to our CRL and cite it for why the sabers should be removed from the FISD CRLs. As you stated, FISD compliance with that wouldn't be expected. Likewise, it shouldn't be expected in reverse as well (in this case to Spec Ops). Detachments do have a level of autonomy from one another. I'd also add that items can be removed as readily as they can be added...reference the use of FX helmets for TKs...once allowable but no longer. Just because something is allowed doesn't necessarily make that the best decision or standard. Standards and "rules" (none really written in stone) evolve from year to year as LMO teams change (for better or worse). LMOs aren't perfect...one rejecting the sabers can be viewed as a "mistake" just as a previous accepting them could be as well (which is my personal stance on the issue though I don't have a stake in the outcome aside from following what I think is the best course for the CRL and our detachment). In any case, thanks for presenting your case. I do appreciate the dialogue. No need to withdraw your stance...we respect it and we may very well be missing an angle on this. As I said above, I'll update on what the current LMO team suggests asap and we will go from there. It is my goal to see this CRL greenlit for the entire community this term and I think we have the momentum to get it done sooner than later regardless. Thanks again!!!

Hey there! Remind me who was #8??? As far as the boots...yea, they should not lay under the knees...4 inches off looks like a bit much. I would say your better off 2"...possibly even 3"

There is visual evidence of Starkiller (as a skin) in this costume...not a TFU Shadowtrooper...this CRL is specifically for TFU Shadowtroopers. Precedent in the Legion would not support the costume in my opinion...to me it falls in line w/ Finn as FOTK (not-approvable within the 501st) or Han and Luke TKs. At this point, the general consensus and precedent among the CRL team and @Fivezero is that the sabers should not be included in the Shadowtrooper CRL. What you are advocating for is a Starkiller Shadowtrooper...those are the references provided that have the sabers, not a standard trooper which is our focus here. I respectfully disagree w/ the position of tossing out the place of the costume within the Star Wars universe. That does (and has in other situations) played a role. I'm open-minded however and will at the least consult the LMOs. Out of curiosity, are there other differences between the Starkiller skin aside from the lightsabers?

@rickyboyblue @Tarrif??? I'd help but I have a degree of color-blindness honestly.

@nanotek @marktoots @Chaos @macdaddycjs See above. Any help on that?

On the trooper model it looks much better. Id like to hear feedback from some others (most are in Chicago and Im sitting at an airport waiting to fly out) @Fivezero @Tarrif @Blackwatch?

Possibly. Id like to see that tested out then. If we allow that, the technique would need to be added to the CRL i think. currently just says jackboot (not how it should be worn).

Sorry @pm07 I've been bogged down in Celebration prep and getting that Sapper published. Hit Chicago tomorrow...but before I go... This pouch looks like it could work though the flap closure seems to go further down the pouch than the source art. It does have what I would say is the right dimensions though. Grenade pouch (I'd need to see the ones your considering) from what I've seen are squattier...not quite the perfect dimensions, BUT the flaps of them tend to not go as far down the pouch and in that regard seem more true to the source art. Is it possible to put "XXXX pouch or similar" as we did w/ the MOLLE pouches on the Sapper to nail it down a bit more? Then, maybe remove the similar f we know a specific that fits perfectly for a Level 2? @Blackwatch picking up on your boot discussion...after completing the Sapper, I think that boot description we settled on there would be better for this CRL. Remove jackboot altogether as @TX-15293 had suggested. @Tarrif You launched this proposal. Any thoughts (post-Celebration of course lol)?

Congrats @TX-15293 and thank u for ur work here in the forums!!!

Nice @VulpX!!! Keep posting your progress!

? Better late than never Tony lolololol

Nice progress Ulises! The gold pops!

At this point, I cannot tell you how to proceed with this. To my understanding, this poster has not been confirmed as official and it is quite possibly a fan made “fake” altogether. Until official sources/references are revealed, there’s no way to determine what is real or not...nor what is accurate or not.

Keep an eye out...we will be doing an update to the scout CRLs following Celebration. Just a few changes but may want to wait a couple weeks before strapping anything.

No compensation necessary lol. PMd. As far as doing a run...as long as they're accurate it's an option.

@Blackwatch @TX-15293 Let's get the final text edited and checked for final review. I have the model pictures and they are being edited by @rickyboyblue. I have also sent the LMOs a request to setup the Wiki link for me to get the CRL created/published.

@Barons_Crown I have these that I have no use for (given to me as a sample to examine). Not sure if they are what u need. Let me kno.

Great build thread so far Merkava! Keep it up.

Looking fwd to the build progress!!!