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That's exciting!!! It's go time!!!

@Blackwatch Touch base w/ @Tarrif about this ASAP and figure out an attack plan on getting this done.

I just sent you a pm. Respond when you can and let's see where we are at.

Nope those pics satisfy my questions. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looks good. Will be easier to distinguish when it's all in one w/ the L1 stuff (for me anyways lol). Couple questions... 1) Ab buttons are black? 2) Ab rivets are listed as semi-gloss medium gray...kidney rivets are black...this is correct? 3) Belt rivets also black? I see you moved the 45 degree angle cut to L2 (I agree w/ that). It's a minor detail that shouldn't hold up a basic approval. Thanks for the write-up. We can give it all another look once you get more feedback and mesh the L1/L2.

Here is our current status: 1) We are moving to propose one pack option (the one worn by @TX-15293 as the initial pack) and will work towards adding additional pack options/accessories via update when those pieces are available for pictures. 2) Neal has been asked (by me) to cleanup the shovel and detonator end caps 3D print lines. Then, retake the pack pictures. 3) All other pictures have been submitted and are being edited by @rickyboyblue. So with that.. @Tarrif @TX-15293 @Blackwatch and myself need to do a final reference to text check on the other pieces (they should be good but one last look) so that all that is left to do is get Neal's updated pack pictures once he does the cleanups to the 3D printed parts. @Blackwatch can you please make an adjustment to the CRL reflecting the proposal regarding the pack and pack accessories for the initial submission when you have a moment please? EDIT: We can update the pack pictures as well when the frameless version by @CrookKnight is available.

The edits being made will not deviate from kit availability...biker scout armor is biker scout armor...that won't change. At this point, changes and updates occurring here and at the TB are fairly minor details.

I have not gone through it yet but was primarily waiting for @furiosa to give her take on it first. I know she's been held up. My main question would be how much do we want to deviate from the original proposal (start of thread) to where the current TB CRL stands (they did an update at Pathfinders after the original proposal we had here was posted)? I ask because I feel like we can't (and shouldn't) continue to try and keep this aligned w/ the Pathfinders CRL forever...for every change they make we would essentially have to revisit this and I don't feel that's reasonable. Even the V 1.1 of the draft is a decent ways off from where they have the TB now in general. Does that make sense what I'm saying? Thoughts?

Got it. I'm on the same page now. I'm much newer to this than you and simply going off my training from the Izzinator. I learned something new and it's all cool. And you're good...I didn't get any harsh tone. So we are approaching this more as an "update" than a new CRL (even though what we do will green-light it finally). Sound good all? So with that said, your text edits seem on point to me. I think the lighting placement clarifications are good because I can just imagine someone strapping LEDs all over and calling it a day. What are your thoughts for Level 2?

So his costume is approved but not the CRL itself. Am I understanding that right?

Point taken. I trust your assessment of that. Regarding clear parts, I know of at least 1 vendor that makes them (WTF). @Fivezero can you clarify something for me (because this is a carryover project from quite awhile ago)? You mention having it "approved" but when I look up our CRL library on the Legion wiki, this only appears as "CRL In Progress" with no photos and states that it cannot be approved as of yet. Was something missed in terms of CRL publishing by previous LMOs or by "approved" are you meaning something else? I ask because there is nothing on my end that I can see showing it approved as a CRL yet. Thanks!

I'm anxious to see what this DLT-19 build looks like in the end.

I cant tell colors well..but not just a shading issue u think to show depth? The edits to the draft look good man. Great to see u on the grind again! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

@Graysheel Have any pics by chance Jeff?

TB alignment.

Pack looks great and puts this costume over the top and close to the finish line. Thanks!

Ive gotten replacement TK straps in white from WTF...im sure he pulls black ones too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Fixed

Would you be able to do read through of the CRL proposal compared to the ref pics as well and make sure the text matches the refs or if anything needs adding/editing? Would like to get a few of us to spot-check it. Reference photos here: https://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/5460-shadow-stormtroopers-force-unleashed-reference-photos/ Thanks!

See above. Sorry we cant give a specific date. There may even be a possibility that there are only changes to add Level 2...cant say until the proposal is written, reviewed and discussed. That process hasnt started yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Its on the agenda but there are a few CRLs and updates we are wrapping up first before tackling it and the new LMO team wont even be ratified till Mar. 10. I would estimate it wouldnt be until April that we get to it at best Unfortunately, I cant give u a solid timeline. If your build is near complete, you should be fine to submit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for jumping in!!! I understand what you're saying regarding trooper size variation...just speaking to the reference from the game, the back doesn't seem to extend all the way down to the TD and the canister is much smaller. Looking at @14166 (though I can't seem to pull up his side shots anymore), the pack did extend lower than the reference and seemed to sit on the TD. If it was flush to the back and pulled up, that might not happen. That though, wasn't as noticeable as the canister which just seems large in relation to the pack itself. Width of the pack seemed good...nothing that just stands out...and the details on the pack look good too.

I agree with that.

Thanks @Fivezero @14166 Where does that put your pack? I guess the ugly questions will be, how feasible is it to get the canister downsized and the pack flush to the backplate?

@Fivezero I would tend to agree with you. The saber is only used as a skin for Starkiller. Why that was approved in previous costumes isn't for me to say, BUT typically heroes in "villain" gear don't get approved i.e. FO Finn, TK Luke, TK Han. You are correct, the standard troopers in the game do not use the saber...only Starkiller as a reskin. The CRL team is spread a tad thin at the moment but let's call @NINJAM0VE and @Janem in here to give it a look and get some feedback going.