IcyTrooper

The ATA kits should still be approvable (always check with your GML as final authority)

@MegaNeth good evening! As you mentioned, CRLs need a model to be complete. If we can get a collection from many different angles and such we could pass it along for viability and placement with the Legion Membership Officer (LMO) office. @Dropkick would be the one who submits that as the DL.

Solid on this! Looks like we should add it to the almost-final text. You think we should add that part at the start about any hard/plastic pieces being gloss black? We could adjust that text too. Belt Gloss black in color unless noted below. May be painted in accordance with the Color Scheme Guide. If used, all armor pieces must be painted using the Color Scheme Guide. Belt and belt accessories may be slightly weathered but must be uniform with the rest of the costume. The belt is smooth and rigid and creates a circular band around the wearer’s waist with no visible buckle or fastening mechanism. The belt has an overall width of approximately 2.75" to 3" (70mm to 80mm). There is one rectangular hard box approximately 4" x 3.5" (105mm x 85mm), offset center to the wearer’s right. All four front side edges are beveled inward. There is a narrow rectangular recess, approximately 3" x 1/2" (80mm x 10mm), along the box’s lower front plate. There are two smaller rectangular hard boxes, that are side by side, approximately 2" x 3.5" (52mm x 85mm) offset center to the wearer’s left. All four front side edges are beveled inward. There are two leather or leather-like material rectangular pouches to the wearer’s left side, one is approximately 2" x 3.5" (52mm x 90mm) and the other is approximately 2" x 4" (52mm x 100mm). Both pouches have a top fold over flap which has a single black snap closure and covers about 3/5th of the front of the pouch. The most rearward pouch sits slightly lower on the belt than the forward pouch. There is one leather or leather-like material rectangular pouch to the wearer’s right side, approximately 2" x 4" (52mm x 100mm). The pouch has a top fold over flap which has a single black snap closure and covers about 3/5th of the front of the pouch. There are two rectangular hard boxes, approximately 3.75" x 4.5" x 0.75" (95mm x 114mm x 20mm), located aft of the wearer’s hip. The boxes slant outward approximately 20-30 degrees. The box has a rectangular cover with an upper to lower outward taper. The lid has approximately 16-20 raised narrow details equally spaced across the front of the cover. The lower edge of the cover has an inward beveled edge. There is a horizontal Thermal Detonator located on the rear center of the belt. is a circular canister with approximately 14 evenly spaced grooves extending to the end caps and is attached to the lower back armor. Width is approximately the same as the lower back plate.

@DoggyDoc has some good resources there. On the abdomen plate and two snaps that hold the belt up, he is correct in other methods of attachment. I switched mine over from snaps to Velcro to keep the belt proper up on the ab armor. If you do want to go the route of snaps, they are Line 24 - 5/8 Inch male snaps.

Thanks for sending that in, Greg. I've had to step back from the 501st for a little bit due to some outside the 501st things going on in life. I'll do the best I can the next 30 days to take a look at this. I'm going to be away from home for about 3 weeks with a work project. I'll tag @Dropkick and @BlacXabbath in here as well.

Sounds good to me! I had to take a break from here for a little bit, had a lot going on outside of the 501st. The next month is going go be a whirlwind for me 🤪

Glad to see you made the thread! 1. Ping WTF, he should be able to provide you with some sheets of ABS. 2. Generally for the arms, the inner parts have the scalloped part that allows for you to bend your arm. I'll attach the Anovos instructions (not for this kit), but that could help with seeing which parts work. SWTROOPER001-KIT_V1.pdf

I like the look of that! @RAIDER and all?

Congrats on the approval, great job with it!

Specifically, what changes are we talking? I'm a little confused. This is for the comic Imperial Army Trooper, not the Andor one.

I think it sounds good with the following: Back Armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle, and recessed box color. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box.

Here is what we are looking at for the chest armor then: Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required.

I agree with the gallery, but this guy is far away from the camera, so a little hard to see any specific weathering: It'd be safe to allow for no weather or light to moderate weathering. Weathering is a very easy thing to mess up for people, it has to be done right. I feel like a requirement could prove to be an issue at a basic level (being overdone and we then have a burnt trooper that gets approved). My thoughts on that.

I'd say just another version of this to include the riot helmet version. The riot shield would probably follow the weapons clause and be optional.

From what I can see, it looks like it at least meets the L1/basic approval category. Just make sure those zippers aren't visible when wearing it. It looks like they'd be concealed by the gloves and boots though.

The real answer would be, check with your GML to see what they would approve. Even though we are in charge of the CRLs, they are the ones approving it. For our answer, the top of the CRL does mention "Soft parts may be slightly weathered with scuffs/dirt." which applies to the belt proper/canvas and would extend to consistency amongst the rest of the costume. We can look into perhaps adding "lightly weathered" going forward after the CRL system is overhauled. If you do it like the CRL picture I can't see how that'd be wrong.

Here is the finalized text for the Posterior Armor: Posterior Armor Gloss black in color unless noted below. May be painted in accordance with the Color Scheme Guide. If used, all armor pieces must be painted using the Color Scheme Guide. Posterior armor may be slightly weathered but must be uniform with the rest of the costume. Is generally curved to follow and cover approximately ¾ of the wearer’s posterior area which extends up under the belt. There is a raised elongated rectangle located on the top center of the armor. A black elastic strap, approximately 1" to 1.25" (25mm to 32mm) wide, may be used to connect the cod and butt plates between the legs. We can move onto the Belt text now! @Andreas Funk we had made a provision in the text earlier under the Gaskets section to allow for gaskets in lieu of the segmented armor joints and such. This was the text that we used: Gaskets Elbow, wrist, ankle, and knee gaskets (if used in lieu of a segmented armor joint): The gaskets must cover any area not covered by armor. Gaskets may be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges (similar to the TFA Elite Stormtrooper). May have the appearance of being segmented overlapping armor or similar “mechanical” joint in design and color. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The elbow, wrist, knee, and ankle joints are segmented overlapping armor or similar “mechanical” joint in design and color. Not sure if you are looking for extra tips on the modeling of it?

Now that I look further into it, I think the IST one is probably better. There is a lot of verbiage from the Meero on that references pants, etc. We'd have to cut that back anyways and it'd most likely end up close to the IST one. @Blackwatch if possible, can you add the bullets going forward? That will keep the stuff in the direction we want when we get down to some other items that have extra levels of detail. I think this text is good for going forward: Hat Fabric matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76.2mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Disks do not feature a notch or groove details.

Are there more pics? Does it say who the maker is?

Great job on the Flamethrower!

I looked through a bunch of this and we may not have enough to do another CRL for it. We just ran into an issue trying to add a generic Inferno Squad/Imperial Special Forces trooper to supplement Del Meeko which had a bit more than this. This is very interesting though, I wonder if they'll add special feature stuff including the rear of the costume?

Posterior Armor Gloss black in color unless noted below. May be painted in accordance with the Color Scheme Guide. If used, all armor pieces must be painted using the Color Scheme Guide. Posterior armor may be slightly weathered but must be uniform with the rest of the costume. Is generally curved to follow and cover approximately ¾ of the wearer’s posterior area which extends up under the belt. There is a raised elongated rectangle located on the top center of the armor. A black elastic strap, approximately 1" to 1.25" (25mm to 32mm) wide, may be used to connect the cod and butt plates between the legs. That seems very simple and doesn't need a lot of crazy work to it. We don't need to worry about the channels at the top that are going to covered by the belt. I know you didn't put that in there but I see them on the photos that were provided and wanted to address it for others viewing this. I added that text in purple about the guide. I've been including it in every piece, but we may need to revisit at the end to see if it is necessary.

We are probably going to have variants, so if we identify specific sections where there are variations we can address them there. It is probably going to be like the Mudtrooper and others, but I'll let @Dropkick and @BlacXabbath answer that as DL/XO. @Blackwatch With that hat having a higher crown, you think that is something we can address in by adding more L2 items? We may want to pull from the Dedra Meero text for the hat so that we aren't reinventing the wheel? https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:Dedra_Meero

I'll have to look at the Facebook portion of the log-in, but it could be disabled on a security update. If you haven't logged in in awhile you'll have to use your email address and not your username. That was updated a few years ago as part of another security update.

Ahhh the joys of "red' when trying to photograph it 😅