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It's a really hard colour to replicate 100% because it's not a painted kit. You will likely need to try a couple of different colours (every region has different paints) and try to match as best as possible. Keep in mind you will need to try and colour match the boots too, so my tip would be work on the boots first then colour match from there. Depending on your approach with the boots; will probably inform the colour you can use on the rest of your armor. While I'm here, you may want to check the nose/bridge/snout detail of your helmet (it appears to lack the detail).
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A lot of my 3D printed work is fibreglass reinforced and fibreglass resin coated. Even just coating both the inside and outside of 3D prints with resin strengthens the piece quite a lot, but it also adds to the weight. Sealing 3D print lines with any kind of resin/epoxy is a good idea, it definitely makes the removal of 3D print lines easier. I see a lot of work where they just use spray fillers and you can still see the lines through the paint (because it isn't sealed correctly).
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Bicep seam could be a little wider but is good for L1 in my opinion. Looks like the seam on the front is too far from the panel. Here are a good reference shot of the panel from the front, and a poor one from the rear. The panel is the same thickness all the way through. I think your black line on the back closely replicates what is seen below and the front one not so much. I think at a minimum I have attempted to draw a blue line for your one below, which could solve your issue of the same thickness, but then it probably won't look like the reference. Either will work, it's just up to you how closely you want to match
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I don't quite understand what you mean for the vertical seam on the back. Can you please elaborate? Other than that you're doing a fantastic job! Don't forget the buttons for the pickatinny rail! I think the angles of the 'V' are a little steep but overall will be fine. I agree the clips look wrong, but they are passable. The vertical seam that runs up the middle will need to be added and if you're doing L2 there's that small stepped recess just above the clip.
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Hey Dave, the files look ok, there are some areas I think that could use improvement, but overall these should be good enough to get you through L1.
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Both of those alterations look great!
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That centre shape looks wrong to me, we are fixing up issues with CRL and pics currently. I think what you were working on originally looked better. The centre piece should be a bit more of a trapezoid. Please check my latest post in the CRL discussion thread for more details. Also your thermal detonator looks great. My advice would be to make the channel of the end-cap a little wider, and the black ribs should be a little bit more like ribs.
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New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
I am going to revisit this part as I noticed an inconsistency when we were reviewing the CRL parts. The wording of the CRL will need tweaking to ensure the shape and spacing between the segments is correct. As you can see the between the pictures above there is a significant difference between the two pieces in terms of the shape of the centre segment and the spacing. -
New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
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New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
There's a couple of things I should have posted here instead of the other posts, so will do so now. My apologies. After reviewing the component again for accuracy I found the above missing The Inside of the forearm is a panel connected to the rest of the forearm forming a seam line. References: -
complete Sithtrooper Helmet - Draft CRL Development Discussion
nanotek replied to nanotek's topic in CRL Discussion Archive
Apologies on digging this up, I proposing to make a couple of minor changes to this section of text. When I was looking at some of the references I had forgotten this costume is made up of components. The top of the helmet is separate from the lower half which forms a seam starting from below the traps, extending diagonally towards the back and terminates at the horizontal line at the back. I then realised that the line was not referenced in the text and that the seam should be added for L2. A line starts at the bottom-back of the trap extending horizontally downwards to the back, intersecting with the diagonal line that extends from the brow and interacts with the horizontal line that separates the mohawk lines from the 5 recessed lines at base of the back. Level 2 addition: The line that runs from the traps/brow to the back is a seam. References: -
Those pics are not from a great source, the undersuits and gaskets are not accurate. I would look a the celebration pics in the reference pictures.
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New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
I still need to make some tweaks here and there. Mostly concerning L2. Keep finding stuff ? -
Moving this to the build area
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New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
@Raider and I have been having some discussions about the Gorget wording and what it all means. There will be some changes to this part of the CRL based on the findings There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armor has the following details: 15-17 raised sections that start and end at the shoulders, one centre raised section at the centre front that matches the width of the opening of lower front part of the cuirass opening, 7 smaller and evenly spaced raised sections that extend towards the shoulder. Segments 1-5 (from the center section) and 7 are roughly 1" (25mm) wide. Segment 6 (from the center) is roughly 2" (50mm) wide. In an attempt to make this all make more sense we will be providing a visual guide to support this part of the CRL. Here is what we see from the font: Here is what we see from the top: (Unfortunately we only have the Anovos statues and the Hot Toy to confirm the 7th and 8th raised sections) I also decided to use Fusion 360 to get some approximate dimensions to help with this I imported an image of the Sith Trooper and calibrated the image according to the belt size, then sketched some shapes to get some dimensions. Please bear in mind this is not exact measurements, I have not taken into account distance/angle of camera from parts. It was just to get a slight better idea of the proportions: (Dimensions are in mm) Based on what we can see here I am going to propose 2 things, one is reworded text and two is L1 and L2 split Gorget (Collar) Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Forms part of the Cuirass which is comprised of the chest, back and gorget. One piece that goes under the cuirass to form the neckline of the armor. Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Duplicate Sits flat around the neckline. added to next bullet point Sits under the cuirass (or chest/back), fits closely to the neck seal, sits flat around the neckline and appears to be part of the cuirass. If there is a seam, it is as discreet as possible and shall be securely closed with no visible overlaps or gap present. There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armor has the following details: (Please refer to guide picture for further info) 13-15 raised trapezoidal segments that start and end at the shoulders, forming the neckline at the front of the gorget Segment 1 (Centre front) is approximately 2" (50mm) Segments 2-6 and 8 are approximately 1/2" to 5/8" wide (12mm to 15mm) wide Segment 7 (sits on the shoulder) is approximately 2" (50mm) wide Segment 7 and 8 are optional OPTIONAL (Level 2) The gorget must be a separate piece with no seam constructed of a flexible rubber like material. Segments 7 and 8 must be present -
Regarding the zipper at the front, and I want to discuss this because I know where have a lot of material that would seem to suggest that the zipper can go either at the front or the back. I am supporting the case that the zipper should always be at the front and using the invisible zipper method. In all of the film related references and LFL promo materials the zipper is at the front. It is concealed quite well with the actually zipper being obscured by the invisible enclosure method. There is a difference between some of the shots of the actors in the film and the photographic promo where the it appears the enclosure is pressed flat for the promos. I think the costume displays were set up incorrectly and the actors used for the promotional events dressed incorrectly. If we take a look at the following photo of the LFL costume display we can see that the zipper is not at the front, but there is bunching of the undersuit to suggest that it has been put on back to front. It would also go towards explaining why the shoulder seams are more prominent in these photos than in the screen/promo pics. LFL Costume Displays: I think with the actors, I think most of them are 501st and probably assumed, like all other costumes, that the zipper goes towards the front. See below where the zipper is at the front and we do not see the shoulder seams for the gaskets. Your back is broader than your chest, so it makes sense
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they even have the exact sole On mine they do, logo and all!
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I recommend gluing the front of the spat to the boot
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Seeing as they are a very close replica I do not see why not. I would have to look at them very closely and check the updated text being prepared by @Chaos I don't have time to do this research at the moment due to heavy workload
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New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
Corrections^^^ -
New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
That was for the shins, updating to reflect ^^^ -
New CRL Proposal - Sith Trooper (TROS)
nanotek replied to RAIDER's topic in First Order Sith Trooper
Cuirass & Gorget (Chest/Back Armor) Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Cuirass is comprised of the chest and back, with a gorget forming the neck opening. Cuirass Chest Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Forms part of the Cuirass which is comprised of the chest, back and gorget. 3 vertical oblong recesses near the collar on each side of the chest near the center opening. The chest extends over the shoulder towards the back forming the shoulder straps which have an attached trapezoidal buckle that appears to connect to the trapezoidal buckles on the upper back armor. There are recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect a few recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front. Raised smooth/flat section at front extends around the under arm of the wearer towards back. Starts as rectangular and tapers to match shoulder/arm hole. There are two raised panels on the lower section of the chest, each extends under the arms towards and forms the lowest part of the sides. Each panel has the appearance of a separate piece and there is a recess that runs around the outside edge. Left lower panel has one recessed diagonal channel. Right lower panel has a small rectangular box/raised area with at least 12 evenly spaced, vertical and slightly angled recessed lines, the bottom of the box/raised area extends slightly outwards from the wearer. There is a clip & buckle greeblie separated by a ratchet strap greeblie in a recessed cavity just above the box (refer to diagram). There are a number of vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole. There are a number of recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section. There are a number of vertically diagonal, evenly spaced recessed lines that start approximately halfway under the armhole and extend back to and underlap the cuirass back. The recessed lines match the diagonal shape of the back armor. Both chest sides connect to the lower back armor. The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top. OPTIONAL (Level 2) Chest shoulder buckle is a separate piece. Ratchet strap greeblie has 5 visible teeth. Small rectangular box on the right chest has 13 recessed vertical lines. There are 8 recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect 6 recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front. On the front chest there are 27 vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole. There are 12 recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section. The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has 12 rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, 5 vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top. Cuirass Back Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Forms part of the Cuirass which is comprised of the chest, back and gorget. The back has an O II (02) shape is made up of recessed II and the O is a recessed circular line divided almost in half by an intersecting horizontal line. The bottom part of the circle is recessed, is black and is slightly smaller in appearance than the top half. There is a small black vertical oblong recess in the top half to the left side. The back has two trapezoidal "buckles" at the top back of the shoulders where it connects to the chest shoulder trapezoidal buckle. The back has a recessed trapezoidal shape at the bottom of the left shoulder buckle that has more than 13 recessed vertical lines. The bottom of this shape is the same length as the top half of the lower trapezoidal section. The angle of the bottom matches the angle at the top of the bottom trapezoid. The recessed/raised lines do not extend all the way to the bottom. The inside line of the trapezoid matches the angle of the buckle. On the back there is a raised trapezoidal section that starts at the base of the back and extends towards the left shoulder. There is a small recessed rectangle directly about the top of the trapezoid and is black. The top of the trapezoid is the same width as the bottom of the recessed trapezoid under the top left shoulder. The angle of the top of the this trapezoid is parallel to the bottom of the recessed trapezoid at the base of the left buckle. The raised section gets higher towards the top and arches out slightly from the wearer’s back. OPTIONAL (Level 2) Trapezoidal recess on the back under the left buckle has 15 recessed lines. Gorget (Collar) Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Forms part of the Cuirass which is comprised of the chest, back and gorget. One piece that goes under the cuirass to form the neckline of the armor. Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Sits flat around the neckline. Sits under the cuirass (or chest/back), fits closely to the neck seal and appears to be part of the cuirass. If there is a seam, it is as discreet as possible and shall be securely closed with no visible overlaps or gap present. There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armor has the following details: 15-17 raised sections that start and end at the shoulders, one centre raised section at the centre front that matches the width of the opening of lower front part of the cuirass opening, 7 smaller and evenly spaced raised sections that extend towards the shoulder. Segments 1-5 (from the center section) and 7 are roughly 1" (25mm) wide. Segment 6 (from the center) is roughly 2" (50mm) wide. OPTIONAL (Level 2) The gorget must be a separate piece with no seam constructed of a flexible rubber like material. Chest shoulder buckle is a separate piece. Ratchet strap greeblie has 5 visible teeth. Small rectangular box on the right chest has 13 recessed vertical lines. Trapezoidal recess on the back under the left buckle has 15 recessed lines. There are 8 recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect 6 recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front. On the front chest there are 27 vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole. There are 12 recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section. The center section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has 12 rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, 5 vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top.