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Ready for review Undersuit Black material racing type suit Neck Seal Gaskets shall be ribbed and made of rubber or a shiny black material Ribs stop at the base of the neck and turns into a smooth section forming the rest of the neckline Conceals the wearer's neck Zip at the back OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gaskets are made of rubber. Fabric or sewn gaskets are not acceptable Part of a gasket vest or top comprising of neck, shoulder and elbows. Shoulder Gaskets Gaskets shall be ribbed and made of rubber or a shiny black material A vertical raised shoulder seam may be present in the gap between the shoulder bell and the arm hole of the cuirass. It may sit under the shoulder bell and slope downwards towards the front of the cuirass. Rib direction is horizontal Connect to the top of the bicep armour concealing the wearer's should and top of the bicep area OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gaskets are made of rubber. Fabric or sewn gaskets are not acceptable Part of a gasket vest or top comprising of neck, shoulder and elbows. Seam is 20mm (3/4”) wide Elbow Gaskets Gaskets shall be ribbed and made of rubber or a shiny black material Gasket ribs a slightly diagonal sloping downwards from the inside elbow to outside elbow of the wearer Sit underneath the bicep and forearm concealing the wearer's elbows OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gaskets are made of rubber. Fabric or sewn gaskets are not acceptable Part of a gasket vest or top comprising of neck, shoulder and elbows. Shorts Gaskets Gaskets shall be ribbed and made of rubber or a shiny black material Front Ribs run a slight angle vertically, sloping downwards from the outside of the hips towards the inner thigh Back Ribs run on a slight angle horizontally, sloping downwards from the outside of the hips towards the inner thigh From the front the gaskets sit underneath the abdomen, codpiece and top of thighs concealing the wearer's groin area From the rear the gaskets sit underneath the abdomen, posterior and top of thighs concealing the wearer's butt area There is a vertical seam on the hips towards the rear where the front and back gasket ribs intersect OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gaskets are made of rubber. Fabric or sewn gaskets are not acceptable Part of a set of pants (shorts and knees) Knee Gaskets Gaskets shall be ribbed and made of rubber or a shiny black material Ribs run horizontally Sit underneath the thigh and shin concealing the wearer's knees OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gaskets are made of rubber. Fabric or sewn gaskets are not acceptable Part of a set of pants (shorts and knees)

Thanks for the contribution. I think there needs to be a lot more work done concerning the details of the front section of the abdomen. Some of the cover strips mentioned start thin near the belt and then get thicker as they extend underneath the Cuirass.

Thanks. Details added.

Thanks. Have added. It is not clear that any cods in TROS were connected to the butt plate due to them flapping about while running. Will wait for DVD release to confirm this detail.

We can alter the wording to allow for variation in material for L1. The L2 will most likely be PU rubber as that is what we know to be true.

The Phasma bucket has that similar ledge. The Phasma CRL says that it is flat on the bottom, which I don't think is an accurate description. For the Sith Trooper I have proposed the following: The bottom of the helmet has a black ledge that runs the perimeter of the helmet that extends back into the interior is about 3/4" to 1" wide matches the angles of the helmet, most notable is the jawline

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I have taken your text and amended it to what I think is correct.

The inside edge of the bucket should be there for L1, it is similar to the Phasma bucket in that respect. Is that what you were referring to? Or is there something I am missing. Please post a reference pic. The detailing under the brow should be included for L1 as it is present even on the 1/6th scale model and considering everyone has accommodated for it... Agree double lens is L2. The teeth don't need to be separate however I think the alternate colour of the teeth should be L1.

https://www.hangerproject.com/shoe-care-guide/high-gloss-vs-matte-patina/ Also here is an article on how patent leather is created http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Patent-Leather.html "In the United States, a common finishing technique used to be a spray application of the polyurethene and/or acrylic. " I can see evidence of masking in one reference picture on the boot. So I imagine the above is correct

I agree, we have to weigh up all the options and ensure that we respect the costume as best as we can whilst making the build achievable

Some of the rigging is visible in the Evolution of the Stormtrooper video, and there is a shot of a display where you can just see the rigging for the bicep. If we do include it, it will be for L2 for sure

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Thanks for the contribution, I have extended or added where possible.

Fair call Glen, I have moved discussion about the split in the collar to following location

Thanks @JoeShoe, I have edited your post to show the image. @Raider There's a lot of other stuff going on here but I'll focus on the join in the collar at the back. First of all, my preference is screen accuracy above all else, so this is my angle when it comes to the CRL. We have a lot of reference material that shows that there is no join in the collar, that it is one piece of flexible PU rubber, however if it is absolutely impossible to achieve this then we will have to look at relaxing the CRL for entry level approval (L1 vs L2). Considering I have seen that there are some people who have moulded the collar in PU rubber (even though inaccurate when referenced) it is still possible. I am keen to hear from these people and how it went! SecondIy I feel that if we relax the CRL to accomodate certain makers we are setting precedents for other makers to argue how their costume should also be considered to relax the standards. The default should be the CRL influences the makers, not vice versa. All options will be considered at the end of the day, but I don't feel like this one piece is impossible to achieve.

All of the toys are inaccurate and in my opinion should only be used when there is no other reference material available. Even the 1/6th scale toy has some very obvious inaccuracies! There is no holster on any of the screen used armor displays and I believe we should adhere to this. We can wait for the film to be released on DVD, but I would say it was a decision the toymakers.

I have also finished adding the details for the Helmet. Still need to work out what is baseline requirements and what is level 2

I found some interesting things in the Evolution of the Stormtrooper section that I thought I would share. First of all I think the teeth are a contrasting colour. You can see in the picture of the screen used costume that the teeth are clearly a different colour from the mesh. The teeth are either a gun metal grey or metallic black like what was used on the Death Trooper and the mesh is gloss black When looking a the following assembly instructions for the helmet (taken from Evolution of the Stormtrooper) it become more obvious see below; The teeth are separate parts to the rest of the assembly. You can see the teeth holes in the part marked below I am assuming a double lens is used in the assembly. This would help obscure the wearers eyes. I would love to see what the labels say! The black backing to the vents on the jawline

Here is an animated gif I made from the Evolution of the Stormtrooper video. I managed to capture frame by frame the technique they used for the silicone moulds for part of the forearm. I slowed it down to 1.5 seconds per frame. I have a bunch of captures that I will eventually upload, but this was by far the most interesting part for me as it showed that this is not an injection mould technique.

My personal perspective is that there is no visible gap/opening on that part and we would need to observe that in the CRL. @Raider may have a different view on this. If it's closed can you still fit your head through the hole? Has Jim considered moulding that part as PU rubber like other makers? You have done a remarkable job with the costume so far, everything looks fantastic!

Hey Glen, one of the things I noticed about Jim's kit is this join at the back, is Jim going to provide an updated piece that doesn't have this?

There has been a lot of discussion on Facebook especially about the sloppy belts. From what I hear the DT's were hired actors and were most likely using studio kits. 501st members did the TK's only There was also discussion about the Neuro-Saav Macromotion (NSM) Monitor where someone thought it was a new piece. As far as the pouches go, we can simply add it to the optional accessories. Just provide some photographic evidence.

The main differences are: (and I'm kinda repeating myself a little bit from my previous post) 1. Material - Most printers use PLA which is a plant based plastic and requires some effort to get a smooth surface. Fibreglass is an epoxy resin usually made of polyester. There are a couple of makers that do fibreglass kits and they are both different again. Jim Tripon uses a flexible fibreglass composite that is slightly softer and more flexible than regular fibreglass. Whereas Plastic Arms Dealer uses gel-coat and is more rigid and sturdy. (Guys @jimmiroquai @amcclary please correct me if I am wrong) 2. Fibreglass kits require less work as the moulds have been constructed with a smooth surface. Fibreglass kits need to be cleaned and prepared properly to avoid skin contact with fibreglass particles that can cause skin irritation. You also do not want to breath in these particles so a proper respirator is required. 3. 3D printed is cheaper but requires more work - I recommend using 2 Coats of fibreglass resin on the inside and outside of each piece of armour. This will all need to be sanded back and filled with spray putting and primer. Some areas of the armour require strengthening with some fibreglass matting to prevent breakages. 4. Fibreglass kits cannot be resized as easily as 3D Printing Good luck with your build

Hi there, this is a complex build and there are a few things you can consider before deciding on your armorer and soft parts. Unfortunately there is no "One size fits all" option and it is ultimately up to you, which means you will have to research, research, research! These suggestions below are not in any real order of significance, but they have an effect on each other. For example if you have no building experience, your costs will go up, but time and effort will go down. If you are building yourself, cost may go down but time will increase (your accuracy may also increase depending on your strategy). 1. Budget - Some kits are more expensive than others. Some are fibreglass, some are 3D printed, some are finished etc. Finished kits are going to be more expensive but less work on your part. If you're building yourself consider items like paint, fillers, fibreglass resin etc (Remember you will still have to add or alter strapping). Where you live will also play a part in how much this will cost you as postage can be super expensive! 2. Build Experience - Are you familiar with how to work with different materials? What is your level of skill? Are you prepared to make mistakes, learn and possibly take months to build? You may have to learn a lot of new skills to complete your build and this will take time to gain research and learn. If you don't know how to paint you will have to rely on others for touch-ups and repairs which can be expensive. 3. Space - depending on how you plan to tackle your build will determine your space requirements. For example if you plan on 3D printing your kit, you will need space to be able to sand, fill, prime and paint. 4. Accuracy - How accurate do you want to go? There are really only a couple of options that come close when it comes to the armor and literally zero options for the undersuit/gaskets. There are also very few accurate leather pouch/holster makers too. 5. Size - The size of your body may determine which armor you will go with. 3D printed offers the greatest flexibility in sizing, where as other kits you may have to make alterations to get it to fit and looking right when strapped. 6. Time - Do you have time constraints? Do you want it now or are prepared to wait? Again (and depending on choice of kit etc) this is a complicated build and no matter which avenue you take there will be some time constraints. All the best with your build!