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From what I can see they look good! Could you get one of the gloves without the armor on it as well? I just realized we need that as well. Then we are set! I'm going to request that the CRL gets unlocked either this evening or tomorrow so that we can get the text and images updated. For the front and back images at the top we list the TX number and photographer. It'll be TX-21814 and not sure who you want as the photographer name?

Congrats on the approval!!

I think we are good with both. For the Posterior Armor I think keeping the raised center part is good based on keeping the Kama look with what we see: Posterior Armor Armor is painted gloss black. Posterior armor hangs from kidney armor, separated from the cod armor. Armor features raised details in the center. We can push onto the next one which is the Belt. I'm also thinking that we split up the Thermal Detonator into another entry. Belt Belt is painted gloss black. Eight boxes are painted gloss black and two are painted gloss red to match the red found on other armor pieces. Belt has is flat surfaced with raised edging on top and bottom that run along the remainder of the belt. Front of belt has three vertical rectangular indents which are spaced apart by two raised rectangular smaller boxes. Left side box is red and the right side box is black. The remaining eight belt boxes are attached with four on each side. The two largest boxes in front are angled with top surface higher toward the center. There is a reversed "U-shaped" indention on the top half of the box with two horizontally recessed lines just below the indention. There are two smaller boxes located on each outer side of the aforementioned largest boxes. These smaller boxes have a downward angular slope away from top to bottom. Each box has a small recessed square is located near the bottom edge. Recessed line runs through box just below the top of the square. The left side box is black and right side box is red. There are two medium sized boxes that resemble a pouch with flap like top cover, one on each hip to the rear of the two aforementioned smaller boxes. A small raised rectangle runs near the bottom front of each box. There is a raised vertical rectangle on each side of each box. There are two medium sized boxes on the rear of the belt on each side of the thermal detonator. Each of these boxes have two square buttons on the upper front corner of a larger raised rectangle. The bottom area is lower than the top area and sides of box angle up slightly. Two dashed indented marks appear near lower back corner on front of box closest to the thermal detonator. The back of the belt behind the rear boxes may have horizontal ribbing. A thermal detonator is centered and attached to back of belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The back of the belt behind the rear boxes must have horizontal ribbing. Thermal Detonator Thermal detonator is painted gloss black with the following details: Detonator tube is about 2 1/4 inch (57.15mm) diameter with two wider detailed straps near the end caps. Seven vertical rectangular buttons are on left side of tube, facing backwards. Ends of the detonator have an inset circle. Rectangle shape cuts through circle and is slightly raised. Small round cap extends above rectangle.

It was recently brought to the attention of the detachment that the Biker Scout ROTJ costume is getting a CRL update to ban the use of Walt's Trooper Factory (WTF) scout helmets from L1 (basic) approval. I have initially responded to the posting with the following response: I'll have a discussion with the team, but as of right now I don't not have plans to follow suit as Pathfinders (at no discredit to them or at arms with them). Our character has been based on comic book and low-poly video game characters. We do have provisions in our CRL that follow the Pathfinder's ROTJ CRL to allow for the easier building of costume with shared details. However, I do believe this could be addressed in updating the CRL to state "Scout style helmet accurate in shape and form as per the reference image"; although one can argue that the CRL text already addresses this by stating "Text descriptions are only one part of the guideline. GMLs and costumers must consider both text and pictures (CRL and Reference) when reviewing the costume." I too have assisted in the building of a WTF helmet and costume with a fellow member and had the same results. Basic approval to me comes back to allowing the best access to parts to make the costume. The proper work can be put in to make the WTF helmet work and be approvable globally at L1. With that being said, it is in the best interest of the detachment to bring this to a public discussion which will also tag in our various detachment costume advisors (DCAs) to get us in the right direction.

I'll have a discussion with the team, but as of right now I don't not have plans to follow suit as Pathfinders (at no discredit to them or at arms with them). Our character has been based on comic book and low-poly video game characters. We do have provisions in our CRL that follow the Pathfinder's ROTJ CRL to allow for the easier building of costume with shared details. However, I do believe this could be addressed in updating the CRL to state "Scout style helmet accurate in shape and form as per the reference image"; although one can argue that the CRL text already addresses this by stating "Text descriptions are only one part of the guideline. GMLs and costumers must consider both text and pictures (CRL and Reference) when reviewing the costume." I too have assisted in the building of a WTF helmet and costume with a fellow member and had the same results as @crazas. Basic approval to me comes back to allowing the best access to parts to make the costume. The proper work can be put in to make the WTF helmet work and be approvable globally at L1. I will create a new thread for this going forward for input so that we don't take over this member's thread. The thread was created here:

Very nice! You are on a roll!

I first read that as the armor was gray and was going to ask how that is even a thing, but then I realized it was the undersuit. I can see how when you put gloss black against a matte black suit the appearance can be gray; but I don't think I've ever heard of that before. The TD is definitely a GML call on that one, glad you were able to quickly make the corrections and get it back to them. Fingers crossed!

@TK 21814 we are about done with the CRL image making for this. Do you have the undersuit and shoulder bib you can upload to that Google Drive we provided in the past?

Yeah, I agree that without the posterior armor it would not look right. My concern is that we can't really require specific details on the armor if we can't see it. Not sure if any of the inside people have any information on this.

Onto the Cod Armor and Posterior Armor, deriving this from standard clone FBFX stuff which actually aligns with the on screen and action figure images. Cod Armor Armor is painted gloss black. Cod armor hangs from abdomen armor, separated from the posterior armor. Cod armor is triangular in shape with a soft bottom edge. Cod features a trapezoidal groove on the bottom area. The only thing I can say about the posterior armor is that I cannot see it in any of the on screen shots or even in the action figure images. It appears to be present based on the way the Kama is sitting on the on screen images, but we can't confirm details other than "FBFX" did it. That is why I put that text in red. I don't believe the omitting it from it will give us the look that we are seeking, but I could be wrong. Posterior Armor Armor is painted gloss black. Posterior armor hangs from kidney armor, separated from the cod armor. Armor features raised circular details on either corner facing closest to the cod armor. Armor features raised details in the center.

The only officially approvable blaster for that IAT: Andor trooper in the CRL is the E10.5 blaster. Any other blaster would have to be built by a member with the appropriate reference materials (as you posted) for it to get included, unless there is another blaster out there that another detachment has built that we can pull from from the same TV series.

Excellent, we'll have to see if we can get more angles then. After that, in order to add it to the CRL, either you or someone would have to build it and we'd create the CRL entry text for it with images that person provides.

Wow!! Very nice and what an awesome gf! I love the shine on the Anovos kits! I can't imagine there will be any issues with the approval, great job catching the belt with 2 screws only...that is a change we made a few years ago. I truly hope that Denuo Novo brings these back with the same shine

@PRFUZZ7 welcome! We inherited the Purge Troopers from CTD, so my best guess is that no one has built that weapon yet for a CRL, thus it couldn't be added to the CRL. Did you snag those screens from in-game? If so and we have all angles of the gun then we could add it to the CRL as a possible weapon (we'd definitely love to add more stuff from in game!), would just need you or someone to build it. It'd be your GML's discretion on trooping with various weapons since they aren't required costume components due to the wide variety of local laws.

I'm glad you remembered that link because of the life of me I couldn't! I also agree that at first glance it does appear to be a Cody pack.

I'm guessing that FBFX made this kit as well? CTD just released their Mandalorian 501st Trooper CRL so I see those references that you posted were most likely the CRL phones before they were edited into that armor. I'm having a hard time seeing that in the images from the screen which is a small issue as the figurines/action figures don't have that "trauma plate" as I like to call it (from the R1 stuff). That CRL has the abdomen armor and front belt combined and then a separate section with the kidney armor and back belt. I don't think we need to specifically have those just like CTD though, since we are talking about one plate. I do believe that we should make it so that it connects only in the back, that is going to look at lot cleaner for most proportions and body types. Abdomen Armor Armor is painted gloss black. Two inset lines divide the abdomen armor into segments. Four holes, approximately ¼ inch (6.35mm) in diameter, are present in each inset line. Abdomen armor is completely contained under the chest and back armor. Abdomen armor wraps around the wearer’s body and connects at the rear via a rectangular kidney armor plate which covers any visible seams. There is no visible method of attachment for this kidney armor plate. The kidney armor plate is made of the same material as the rest of the armor and is painted to match. @dewannawanga I don't see any issue with that date. After we get the text finally completed we'll get the images curated and trimmed out and start putting the text and images into the CRL. From there the LMOs will continue to review it all and make sure there is nothing standing out. When it passes that it'll get in the queue and worked out by the LMO team with the GMLs whose garrison you're in to get it added. I'm tagging @ionicdesign in this so that he sees the process, but I know he has been monitoring. @jakebullet welcome! To keep this thread focused on the CRL creation, you may want to post in this thread for that :

Onto the Abdomen Armor now! I see that it is pretty much identical to the P2 realistic armor, so this makes sense why it was derived from that. Abdomen Armor Armor is painted gloss black. Two inset lines divide the abdomen armor into segments. Four holes, approximately ¼ inch (6.35mm) in diameter, are present in each inset line. Abdomen armor wraps around the wearer’s body and is sealed at the sides or back. Abdomen armor is completely contained under the chest and back armor.

Thank you for those extra images! I can see about moving forward on the next piece. With regards to the details, if we can't see it on the screen then we can use the action figures/models as the supplementary reference and we take the closest matching amongst the models.

Yeah I think we are going to be set to start putting the stuff into the CRL wiki. I've been doing Photoshop cutting of the images in the folder we have for this costume so that we have the images ready for upload and insertion. I need to get a few of you CRL editing accounts, but with the elections right now that is on hold. Most of the photos were already cut out and made for the CRL which was good, but there were a few that were missing. Either way we are in a good spot! The photos we have had are excellent quality.

Thankssssssssss I have updated the text for the Electrostaff now. I think since it is a weapon we can be a little more lenient on it: Electrostaff Please also reference the gallery images when reviewing the text below. Electrostaff is approximately 84 inches (213.3cm) long and divided into five sections. Sections 1 and 2 are the ends of the electrostaff. Sections 1 and 2 may have the appearance of electricity emitting from it via the use of greeblies. If these greeblies exist they must be painted to match the reference photos or may be electronically lit matching the color of the reference photos. Sections 3 and 4 are the grip handles of the electrostaff. Section 5 is the middle section of the electrostaff. Sections 1 and 2 are approximately 16.5 inches (42cm) and have the following details: A prong-like tab greeblie with raised ends that has 2 circles removed in the middle of the raised part of the greeblie. This is located on the butt end of the electrostaff. The butt end of the electrostaff is a circular tube segment with circular indentions evenly spaced near the end of the segment. This segment is attached to the next segment via a thread-like connection. The butt end of the electrostaff has an inner depressed ring with 4 circular indentions evenly spaced around the outer edge of that inner depressed ring. The next segment from the thread-like connection resembles the shape of a bullet with a flat end as it connects to another cylindrical segment and has a ringed connector piece which connections sections 1 and 3 to sections 2 and 4. Sections 3 and 4 are approximately 14 inches (36cm) and have the following details: The outermost connection that connect to sections 1 and 5 resemble that of section 5 in design. It is ribbed with 4 evenly spaced, circular rods that run the length of the connection. The innermost connection that connections section 5 also resemble that of section 5 in design. It is ribbed with 4 evenly spaced, circular rods that run the length of the connection. The middle part is textured resembling a grip around the entire length of the section. Both of the textured sections will have a circular button with a ring as if it was used to turn on the electrostaff. This button does not need to be functional and may sit on a beveled base. Section 5 is approximately 35 inches (88.9cm) long and has the following details: The middle section of the staff is ribbed. There are 4 evenly spaced, circular rods that run the length of the middle section. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Sections 1 and 2: In addition to the 4 circular indentions that are evenly spaced around the outer edge of the depressed inner ring, there are an additional 4 circular indentions that are on each side of the prong-like greeblie within the inside of the inner ring matching the reference photo. These sections must have the appearance of electricity emitting from it via the use of greeblies. They must be electronically lit matching the color of the reference photos. Section 5: Where ribbed sections come together there are 2 circular indentions on each side of the raised connection. These are only on 2 of 4 sides in between the circular rods, each on opposite sides.

I'm looking at this and then looking at other detachment armor text for some inspiration, especially CTD and FISD with TCW and Rebels costumes and they are often listed as detail indents. We should require that, not painted or stickers, for basic as there is precedence for that and for LMO review.

Yep you will be the CRL model for it, so as long as we have pictures that cover every part that is in the CRL and have the main front/back pic we are set. I'm a little behind on wrapping up review of that Electrostaff, but I'm skipping out on something tonight so that I can go through the text once more and post it for us. Once we verify we have pictures for everything that is in the CRL I can request a CRL unlock and we can start putting it in there.

For the Backpack Radio I was trying to see what we could see within the screen images but as we know, they are VERY hard to see. We can utilize the model images as supporting images for the basis of the CRL text and should place them within the gallery of the CRL (which is why I added a line about that). Backpack Radio Backpack Radio is painted gloss black. Please also reference the gallery images when referencing the below details. Radio consists of a horizontal top panel and front panel and vertical side panels. Front and side lower panels angle inward to meet bottom panel. The top plate has rectangular recessed area that includes the following details: Clips on the left and right side appear to attach the backpack radio to back armor. The center of these clips have a screw, rivet, or similar method of attachment that is painted black and does not need to be functional. A short, thick antenna with a funnel-like base is mounted on top left. Large slide switch near right of antenna base. Next to slide switch is 1 long vertical rectangle, 2 shorter horizontal stacked rectangles and 1 long vertical rectangle. Right of the long vertical rectangle is a raised cone shaped cylinder with a flat top and a recessed round button. Next to the round button is a small vertical rectangular button. A beveled edge runs around the outside of the top panel. The front plate has the follow details: Recessed band runs horizontally across center. On the upper left side within the recessed band there is a square with shallow slope angled downwards. Long horizontal recessed rectangle sits above 3 circular inset shapes. The rectangle is divided in half by a diagonal bar and is filled with recessed diagonal bars. The 3 circular inset shapes each have 2 inset rings. Bottom angled panel has a circular button on bottom left corner. The left side panel has the follow details: Horizontal recessed band aligns with band on front and ends at raised side panel. Raised side panel runs from the center of the bottom angled panel and extends just above the top panel. Slightly raised vertical rectangle with 5 equally spaced horizontal raised rectangles with beveled bottoms. Horizontal rectangular red lens at bottom of side panel. The lens may be painted to give the effect it is lit or it may be electronically lit producing a steady, non-blinking, light that is red in color. The right side panel has horizontal recessed band that aligns with recessed band on front. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Horizontal rectangular red lens at bottom of side panel of backpack is lit using LEDs or the equivalent, in a steady, non-flashing manner.

I'll need to update the Chest Armor then to match what we have for the Back Armor then. I put that text in purple. Back Armor Painted gloss black. Backpack radio is permanently attached to back armor. Chest and back armor match together at the sides via a connection piece: The connection between the chest and the back armor may be fabric, elastic, plastic or rubber, so as it closely matches the armor color. Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

Sick! Glad we put that into L2 so we can aim for that!