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Force Arena Force Arena Helmet Views (non-Gar Saxon)

@MrShadow thanks for that! Do you by chance have a shot of the helmet from in the game? I kicked off the CRL discussion thread and have started with the flight suit while we try and source the helmet images.

Alright! I will kick this off with the flight suit while I still try to source the helmet. There aren't many good images for the helmet from the Force Arena game itself. We'll make the face character part be optional and the helmet will be required. Flight Suit Must be a cotton or cotton blend, one or two-piece garment, and must be properly fitted and shaped to the wearer. Must not have any visible pockets, pouches or zippers. The upper body part of the flight suit is a maroon-colored. The neck area of the flight suit goes halfway up the neck of the wearer to conceal skin when the helmet is worn. On each shoulder of the flight suit there is a white Imperial Cog emblem on a black background. The cog is 3” or 3.5” diameter and 1” from the shoulder seam. The cog may be embroidered or vinyl. The lower body part of the flight suit is colored to match the white of the armor pieces. The lower body part of the flight suit has the following seams: On the outside of each leg there is a double-lapped seam which runs the entire length of the suit showing from the top of the shins up under the belt. On the front just above the top of the knee armor which wraps around to the back of the flight suit and appears on the back. On the back from the knee seam there is a seam that runs up the back of each thigh and then curves to the outside of the back under the belt. There is a horizontal seam that runs across the butt connecting both of these seams running up the back of each thigh. On the back there is central double-lapped seam which runs from under the belt to the crotch of the wearer. OPTIONAL Level Two certification (if applicable): The flight suit is not weathered.

Here is the updated text in purple and underlined: Codpiece & Posterior Armor The codpiece may be a separate individual piece or part of the abdomen armor and has a raised detail/ridge at the bottom. Codpiece has a darker gray rectangle that starts at the flat part of the raised detail/ridge of the lower codpiece up to the top of the codpiece under the belt. Codpiece and posterior armor connects at the hips under the belt. Posterior armor has a raised ridge that starts on each the side towards the middle and goes up the posterior armor. There is a second ridge/shelf that starts in the middle of posterior armor before the belt.

The latter that you proposed is what we were looking for and sounds a lot better. Essentially, for movability we were going to allow the codpiece to be a separate individual piece provided the seam is covered by the belt.

I have updated the CRL text on the first page with the above! Now onto the Codpiece & Posterior armor! Codpiece & Posterior Armor Codpiece may be one-piece or a part of the abdomen armor and has a raised detail/ridge at the bottom. Codpiece has a darker gray rectangle that starts at the flat part of the raised detail/ridge of the lower codpiece up to the top of the codpiece under the belt. Codpiece and posterior armor connects at the hips under the belt. Posterior armor has a raised ridge that starts on each the side towards the middle and goes up the posterior armor. There is a second ridge/shelf that starts in the middle of posterior armor before the belt. Not sure if we have any other input for this.

Okay, that will require entirely different visual references from the ones that we have. Do you have screen grabs from that?

This would be strictly based on the Rebels version, that's what you model is, correct? When you begin the work on the build with the prints and what not your own WIP would be good.

Congrats on the approval!

Since I screwed up with the location of that black part, it should be between the chest armor and back armor. Thus this will change the abdomen armor text as well. Here are all of the changes in purple and underlined: Chest Armor Chest armor overlaps abdominal armor. There will be a darker gray coloring that curves up from each outer ridge of the raised portion of each breast towards the neck and shoulder straps. On each side of the chest there will be a silver circular greeblie with a red center that fades to black around the edges. There are two pill-shaped black marks underneath and slight offset from the greeblie. The two pill-shaped marks may be painted or decals. Chest armor wraps around the wearers body and is sealed at the sides or the chest armor is not sealed at the sides and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Chest plate shall have return edges all around, thicker at the bottom. Circular greeblies on chest are more conical and have a metal appearance: Greeblies get narrower towards the top and wider at the bottom. Red LEDs within each greeblie give the appearance that it is glowing. The two pill-shaped black marks are actual indentions. Chest armor is not seamless at the sides with the back armor and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. Back Armor Back plate contains an “O II” design with little or no overlap of the kidney plate. There is a fading black to a darker gray coloring that goes from a 45 degree angle from the shoulder straps down towards the corner of the top of the “O II” box, then down at close to a 90 degree angle about two-thirds of the way down before cutting at another 90 degree angle out towards the sides and then again down at a 45 degree angle to the edge of the back plate under the arms. Back armor wraps around the wearers body and is sealed at the sides or the back armor is not sealed at the sides and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Back armor is not seamless at the sides with the chest armor and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. Abdomen Armor Realistic style Clone Abdomen armor. Six 1/4” (6.35mm) in diameter holes per side on indents of ab plate. Twelve holes total. Abdomen armor has the appearance of no gap between the abdomen armor and posterior armor. Abdomen armor is completely contained under the chest and back armor. I will update the main part of the finalized CRL text as well in the first page of thread with these changes if there are no objections.

I did notice that I need this to be for the chest plate and back plate, not the abdomen armor/posterior armor. I'm going to take that out of the above text and make reference to another section. Just based on the photos alone it does appear that it is black, so I'd say that is something worth noting for L1 (either/or) and required for L2:

That can work. It appears that this version is Gar Saxon, so I can update the threads that I started for that.

I'll speak with the team on this but from the looks of it I do believe this costume could have two versions within one CRL. The Gar Saxon version (red) and the Grunt version (white). I have set up a pinned reference photo thread and a pinned CRL discussion thread.

Star Wars Rebels

This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized): Helmet Flight Suit Chest Armor Back Armor Jet Pack Abdomen Armor Gauntlets Hand Armor Ammo Belt Codpiece Thigh Armor Knee Armor Boots [Unnamed] Rifle [Unnamed] Pistol --------------------------------------------------------------- Description: Imperial Super Commando - Gar Saxon Prefix: TX Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment Context: Star Wars Force Arena Mandalorian warriors loyal to the Empire, Imperial Super Commandos were deadly and efficient enforcers. Led by Gar Saxon, the Imperial Super Commandos’ armor was a distinctive and streamlined white, and their masterful combat abilities were eclipsed only by their ruthlessness. Under orders of the Empire, they destroyed the Protectors of Concord Dawn with no mercy, and sought to do the same to their missing leader Fenn Rau and any rebel opposition. [this is from the LFL Star Wars Databank, we'll have to change this]

Nice job on the Engi!!

@MrShadow I spoke with @RAIDER and will assist and take point on the CRL text working with the references. When you get a chance to get the build moving make sure to create a separate WIP thread so that this reference thread remains separate from that. I will create a separate pictures only thread for the references on this one as well as a CRL draft thread, when I get a chance. Great job so far on the model!!

Here is the text for the abdomen armor: Abdomen Armor Realistic style Clone Abdomen armor. Six 1/4” (6.35mm) in diameter holes per side on indents of ab plate. Twelve holes total. Abdomen section wraps around the wearers body and is sealed at the sides or back or is not sealed at the sides and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. Abdomen armor is completely contained under the chest and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Armor is not seamless at the sides and is connected with black fabric or nylon that blends into the under suit. I know that in the reference/in-game images on the sides it does not connect with the back armor.

Thanks! Yeah you did overlook it under the 4th main bullet and 1st sub bullet. Due to the fact that we are not seeing any details on it we can't really infer in this scenario that it is something different. The inlet vents would be those on the little wings that jut out.

I'm going to aim to make this the final text for the jump pack (for now): Jump Pack Styled after the jump pack seen in the Battlefront 2004 video game and close to the CRL images with details below. The pack will be painted in the same color as the base color of the armor unless noted otherwise in the details. There are two trapezoidagon wings protruding from either side at the top of the jump pack. These wings are mirrored images of each other with 5 sides. The sides contain the following details: The side facing upwards has a recessed vent section detail painted dark gray on the fins and black to simulate looking into the pack. The vents open towards the center of the pack. The side facing the back/helmet has no details and is dark gray. The side facing outwards from the back has a recessed vent section detail painted dark gray on the fins and black to simulate looking into the pack. The vents open towards the center of the pack. The side facing the exhaust jets is slanted at a 45 degree angle and has a recessed vent section detail painted dark gray on the fins and black to simulate looking into the pack. The vent opens towards the center of the pack. The side facing outwards past the shoulders has a circular detail in the center of a circular recessed area. The circular detail in the center has a raised edge and recessed vent section. The vent section detail is painted dark gray on the fins and black to simulate looking into the pack. There is a trapezoid-like recessed area on each side of the black section towards the top of the pack and next to the trapezoidagon wings. The black center section of the jump pack is flat at the top, slants at an angle towards the middle of the jump pack before flattening out. After the flattened section it slants towards the posterior armor to the bottom of the jump pack. The following details are present: The flat part of the top has no details from the back of the armor to about the last third of the jet pack. After that there is a black section before it reaches the angled slant. The angled slant from the top has a rectangle in the center with recessed black areas on all sides of the rectangle. As it levels out there is another horizontal rectangular greeblie detail until the next slanted area. This horizontal rectangular greeblie is a gray with brown/tan mixed in to give it a metal appearance. The angled slant towards the bottom has a rectangle in the center with recessed black areas on all sides of the rectangle. Just before the rockets on each there is a recessed rectangular section that is gray on each side of the black center section. On each side of the jump pack just above the rockets there is a gray conical detail. This detail is painted dark gray. Each rocket tip will have the following details: A set of dark silver rings at the top. A light gray section in the middle. A dark gray circular section that gets narrower the closer it gets to the bottom. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The vent details on the sides of the trapezoidagon wings have the edges of each vent fin painted a lighter gray to simulate edges. The black center section of the pack is painted to simulate textured metal with grays. In the black center section the horizontal rectangular greeblie has two small gray squares on the lower left side of the greeblie. On the each rocket tip: At the top there will be a total of 4 rings that will have a metal appearance. The white section in the middle will have a slight fade to black as it goes into the rings. The dark gray circular section at the bottom has equally spaced rectangular indentions that go all around it. You all agree?

You may be able to get some additional ABS for that from Walt's Trooper Factory (WTF) or Trooperbay.

Thanks for suiting up again!!

Very close!!!

Just keep in mind that based on what we make of the CRL and based on the reference images there could be some modifications that need to be done as we work on finalizing the text and what not with the reference image.

Thanks for pulling that again. I think we can make a motion to make the pattern of paint as well as those two "square" sections on the left side of the greeblie as part of that too for L2.