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I agree with that, they definitely cannot be black. Have to have at least some shade semblance to the armor color or a touch darker than that. That is what I have pulled from the actual game. I can try and get even more pics of the boots and boot armor if we need them since I have the game on my PC.

I think the most logical step we could have with this is to create another master post within this thread, similar to what I did with the Phase 0 Dark Trooper, and go through each costume piece by piece and finalize the text as we go. I can get the post added to this one to get us started if you'd like? This discussion has been going awhile and we may not able to edit the initial proposals.

@MrShadow any update on this? Once you start getting the pieces printed and out there can you create a WIP thread to follow along? That way we can keep this thread for the CRL discussion. Just prepping for the future. ?

I realized that I forgot to include a reference to the soles being different, which would make the assumption that they match the boot color which states close to armor and I realize that may be hard for the sole. We should probably put in there that the gray should be close to the armor color. In the reference photos it is a contrasting (barely) gray, not black. I'm going to go back to my last post above and make an edit accordingly.

Very nice to see this! We still have the CRL open for editing before final draft. I pinged @RAIDER about this post so we can see how we could move forward with the CRL text again.

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That's right, I swore it went all the way around down to the belt on the back but it did end. Not sure how I missed that on the pass I did an hour ago. I think it confused me because some of the panels in the art had some discontinuity.

I just checked it out in comparison with previous discussions and applicable reference images and agree with the changes you put in there.

Thank you for those points! 1. I agree with that on the forearms! 2. I can definitely see that as a model limitation. I have made the following change to say "curves downward at the side". 2nd 2 (haha). I see what you meant and have updated a bullet point to this now: "A gray stripe, approximately ¾” (20mm) wide, runs around the midway part of each rocket housing." 3. Another agreement, and I removed it! 4. I can see that as well and agree with it being an issue with the texture mapping so I removed it.

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Styled after the pack as seen in The Force Unleashed video game. An interpretation of the pack is allowed, but screen accuracy is encouraged. The main fuel tank is cylindrical with a rounded conical top and flat black in color. Three white stripes are present on the tank with the top stripe wrapping around the entire tank. The top two stripes are approximately 1.25” (30mm) wide. The bottom stripe is approximately ¾” (20mm) wide. There is a beveled and raised center section that is white in color which starts from the bottom white strip of the main fuel tank to half way between the upper two stripes. This center section has two recessed rectangular sections. Two rocket housings, primarily white in color, are present on each side of the main fuel tank. The upper part of each rocket housing has caps that are flat black in color with a white stripe that is approximately ¾” (20mm) wide. The white part of the rocket housings curves downward at the side of each housing and rounds out at the rear facing side of the housing before going back up again towards the inside of the main fuel tank. A gray stripe, approximately ¾” (20mm) wide, runs around the midway part of each rocket housing. At the bottom of each rocket housing there is a conical exhaust nozzle that is white in color. A curved white pipe that is approximately 1.5" (40mm) in diameter connects each rocket housing to the main fuel tank. A pentagonal plate, white in color, is present that the main fuel tank and rocket housings are mounted upon. Okay so above is what I have made changes with by putting the text in this light orange color. I drew some reference from our Rocket Trooper for descriptors on the pack.

This looks good and for a matter of practicality for getting in and out of the suit to allow them to be two-pieces that have to sit flush. We have that with the R1 Imperial Combat Assault Tank Driver and AT-ACT Driver suit. They made it so that you can split it and then have a neck pieces that covers the seam because you wouldn't be able to get your head in otherwise.

Here is the boot armor and boot text: Boot Armor There is a two-tiered raised armor detail that is flat on top and bends to the sides curving along each side of each boot. The two details have a seam separating them and the following details: The bottom section detail has two black painted details that run horizontally across the boot. The detail closest to the toes is longer than the one above it. The top section detail rounds out on the front boot where laces would be and go around the ankle of the boot stopping just before the end of the boot. Both of these details may be fastened to the boot on each side with Velcro, adhesive or a rivet that is colored the same as the boot. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): There is no rivet attaching the two-tiered raised armor detail to the boot. The two black details on the bottom section of the armor detail is an actual indention and painted. ------------------------ Boots Boots are made of a vinyl or leather material in a color that matches the gray of the armor and covers the ankle area with no visible undersuit. Boots have flat soles and no visible laces. Some visible tread on side and arch is ok. Sole color must be a slightly contrasting darker gray, as per the reference photos. There are no markings or labels from the shoemaker. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): There is no visible tread on the sides and arch of the boot. The sole is weathered around the entire boot, heavier at the heel as seen in the reference photos.

I'm going to finalize that Lower Leg Armor text and then we can do the boot armor and boots themselves.

This would be the update on the notes part of the CRL for the Novas: We would change "The armor is gloss black." to "The armor is gloss black and may be slightly weathered." --------------------------------------------- Thanks for grabbing those, I love the variants!

That works for me!

Shoulder Straps: I think the gray works, I can see the shine of it on that photo you provided; looks like the angle in that pic. I checked the other reference photos and it does go with what you said. Shoulders: I believe with the circles we can add a gallery image for each of them to show how they are setup and state that they should match the reference photos or gallery photos as the spacing between circles is not equidistant...or better yet! May be can as a L2 detail have them appear as the reference images or allow for equal spacing for L1? Forearms: I concur with the painting to provide the illusion that they are raised rather than modeling. I have checked over the reference photos and each angle supports them being actually raised. Neck Seal: I'd like to make a motion for this to be optional as there is nothing on the reference images. However, I'd strongly suggest that we do something that prevents the face/head of the wearer being seen in the submission photos as we don't see face textures in the reference images either.

We could make the case to add the weathering is permissible as per the reference images, in the top notes of each of the CRLs. I don't think it'd warrant a L2 detail or focus. I do agree that the weathering is there though. I know that I posted about trying to obtain SWG but I never did get it. It was pretty expensive on eBay when I had checked.

I'm good with the additions! The only clean-up stuff I'd say is as follows: In the helmet hose section the 20mm needs to read 3/4" (20mm) in the second bullet. In the helmet hose section the I'd say we up those to centimeters since it is a large measurement with the inches. It'd read 10" to 16" (25-40cm) and will align to our CRL editing guide.

I'd say the 4-6 teeth cutout is good for the basic for sure and that that cut wouldn't affect it.

@RAIDER I'm out of town for work right now so I'll get to it on Friday

I'll take a look at this as well!

Making some progress!

Glad to see you get the WIP thread going! @Blackwatch you have any solution on the boots, I know you had a lot of experience in picking the proper boots.

Glad to have you back with the 3D printed kit as the WIP!