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I agree, great work everyone!
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If you have the belt pouches you'll have the holster, and you have the option to wear the pauldron or not. If you wear the pouch on the left chest then you must wear the pauldron and must have drop boxes on the belt (no belt pouches).
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Thanks for your feedback! Took me a little bit to circle back to this with life but appreciate the feedback. I say for the texture being flat that is the best that we are going to have to do with it appearing layered, rather than actually layered unless it is done. I think the appearance should be more than enough over the actual construction, as long as it looks good. I agree with the chest bolts and having the text say silver is the way to go for L1 and then have a more metal like appearance for L2, as it has that effect in the reference images. The black pill shows should be added to L1, absolutely, as they are visible on the reference images. I'd say they may be painted or a decal for L1 and then for L2 they should be an actual indention with either black decals or paint. That is my suggestion. I'll go ahead and make adjustments to the text as a whole later (mostly the helmet) to move the LED parts to the L2 requirements so that we have the consistency.
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Won't find a more tightly knit group!
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Okay, so I took what you guys said and improvised a little. @Blue Hatter I'm having a hard time seeing that those darker portions are a separate piece. It can be inferred with the way it fades to black, however, it does the same with the chest greeblies and those aren't two pieces. Stuff in purple is what I have changed/added. Chest Armor Chest armor overlaps abdominal armor. There will be a darker gray coloring that curves up from each outer ridge of the raised portion of each breast towards the neck and shoulder straps. On each side of the chest there will be a silver circular greeblie with a red center that fades to black around the edges. There are two pill-shaped black indentions underneath and slight offset from the greeblie. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Chest plate shall have return edges all around, thicker at the bottom. Circular greeblies on chest are more conical and have a metal appearance: Greeblies get narrower towards the top and wider at the bottom. Red LEDs within each greeblie give the appearance that it is glowing. One thing we should probably address at the end of this is the LED stuff. For the helmet we made the LED glow a L1 detail. Perhaps we should revisit that for the helmet and push those to L2 and make adjustments for the red on the aerators.
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@Blackwatch that is a good point, I'm going back to the references and would say it should be silver which is what it looks like in the reference images. For accuracy on L2 it has to have a metal appearance. I'm going to update the text with some of what @Blue Hatter suggested as well as your clarification @Blackwatch
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I used smaller split rivets on mine.
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That looks good to me.
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In addition to what @Raider said this thread has some good info too:
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Good to see you back at it and congrats on the house! You may check out Imperial Issue for a belt: https://imperialissue.com/ ...I have one for my shadow stormtrooper and it is solid.
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Here is the proposed text for the chest based on the reference images: Chest Armor Chest armor overlaps abdominal armor. There will be a darker gray coloring that curves up from each outer ridge of the raised portion of each breast towards the neck and shoulder straps. On each side of the chest there will be a silver/gray circular greeblie with a red center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Chest plate shall have return edges all around, thicker at the bottom. Circular greeblies on chest will have a metal appearance and red circular center detail will fade to black towards the outer edge of each circle.
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I am finalizing the hand plate text with what is above and will also finalize the glove text as it is standard: Gloves Black in color, made of either rubber, nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/ designs. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured. We then move onto the chest!
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So, with seeing multiple vantage points on the in-game reference images and texture files I believe that what @Blackwatch had suggested about the L1 options and then L2 narrowed down to one choice would be the best. The first two bullet points in L1 would be similar to this (imagine it without the ridge part for the second option): The last bullet point and L2 would look similar to this:
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Looks good on basic from me too!
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@ionicdesign I haven't had luck with getting SW Galaxies, I'm going to have to buy a copy off eBay and then patch it over with SWG Legends website. I'm going to try and buy a copy this week. However, I've been taking a look at the references more and more and seeing consistencies with the red being the same height as the traps for the widest part, the lower parts being about half that height. I just can't find anything definitive that would separate the novatrooper armor from that of a stormtrooper other than the colors and striping, etc. Are you wanting dimensions for the striping? When scaling it looks like 1 inch on the smallest height and 1.5 inches on the higher part. With regards to the tips, definitely a silver with this pic. I believe that we went with the white interior on L2 to really make that silver pop:
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Congrats!
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I thank both of you for your input. I'd say we can allow clamshell or pointed for L1 and pointed required for L2. I know that the Dark Trooper did have many clone trooper armor influences when looking at the reference images. Here is the text revised again: Hand Plates Hand plates are mirror images of each other. Hand plates must be styled as one of the following: Smooth clamshell snowtrooper-style (not the trapezoidal design seen in A New Hope), or Ridged clamshell snowtrooper-style (not the trapezoidal design seen in A New Hope), or Clone trooper-style which have a top curving ridge that comes to a point over the index or middle finger just past the main knuckle of the hand. Hand plates shall be securely mounted over the back of the glove. These can be made up of plastic, latex or latex-like material. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The shape of the hand plates must be styled as clone trooper-style which have a top curving ridge that comes to a point over the index or middle finger just past the main knuckle of the hand.
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That cover strip should hide the "seam". Not sure how those shins fit on you or your calf size, so I don't want to recommend trimming more down the middle. The only other thing is to make the cover strip wider so that it pretty much reaches both "edges" of the molded part.
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Michael, that is a very good observation! I will have to do a little more research into this as it appears in the Novatrooper as well. I'm not sure if it may be a rendering issue as well because in our reference pictures it shows it clearly outside of the trap too: In the Sentinel it is the same way: I have thought about trying to download the game so that I can get some better images but I'm thinking that the intent is to have it end at the trap rather than bleed into it. If anything we may consider that a L2 detachment detail rather than something for basic.
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Nice update! Green is looking good!
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Looks beautiful!
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Those look fine to me, very similar to the ones that I have.
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Here is the new proposed text for that: Hand Plates Hand plates are mirror images of each other. These may be clamshell snowtrooper-style hand plates, and not the trapezoidal design seen in A New Hope), or they may be smooth clamshell with no snowtrooper-style hand plate ridges. Hand plates shall be securely mounted over the back of the glove. These can be made up of plastic, latex or latex-like material. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The shape of the hand plates must be smooth clamshell and may not be the snowtrooper-style hand plates.