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I don't see a problem with it, but the LMO will have the last word. -iz

I'm going to use the following image, as it shows some nice details you can't see in the other pics. The story behind the Phase 0 Dark Troopers is they first experiented with adding cybernetics to clones for the project. (Ever wonder why the Clones started disappearing?) This is a hybrid armor and not strictly a TK variant. You will use a combination of CT and TK style armor, and most likely some custom pieces as well. Clone trooper parts. From the bottom up: Boots These look very clone to me. Possibly a custom, but I doubt it from the current references available. [*] Thighs [*] All the markings of standard clone thighs from what I can see, and the rest will be added with the paint job. [*] Cod [*] Clone standard with a custom paint job. [*] Belt [*] Looks to be simply the clone belt. [*] Ab and kidney plates [*] Clone standard - The markings on this aren't even in question. [*] Chest [*] Clone standard with a custom paint job. TK parts From the bottom up: Forearms Look to be TK. However, if you can get a hold of AM forearms, I'd cut them a bit big, round them out and pad them to give it that bulky look. [*] Biceps Look to be TK. I'd also try to use some padded AM arms to bulk them up. Customs! (Woo hoo!) From the bottom up: Shins We can see from the raised edge that happens in the front and back that these are not Clone parts. However, We also do not have the raised edge around the top of the shin like standard TK armor. This needs to be custom made to match the references. Also neither shin has a knee plate attached [*] Knees - Silver and red knobs [*] These need to be on both sides of each knee. Maybe as a snap to he under suit. It could also be the joint to a hinge, and it could be possible to float it by creating such a hinge connecting the shin to the thigh. [*] Butt [*] Clone shape with a custom grove pattern. [*] Jump/Jet pack [*] Totally custom. Be sure you get it to closely match references. [*] Shoulder bells [*] Not shaped like a clone, and I'm not seeing a raised ridge like a TK. If you could take of AM armor, cut out the ridge and rebuild it, that would probably work. [*] Helmet [*] Seems wider and squatter than the average TK's, with a taller chin. It may be possible to cut parts of the face out of an FX helmet to achieve this look. but an un-modded FX alone wouldn't cut it. I would say that an accurate sized TK bucket just couldn't be modded enough to achieve the look, but I would love to be proven wrong. Undefined From the bottom up Thermal Detonator / O2 Tank [*] Hand Plates [*] Need a better reference. Can't see them at all here. [*] Chest [*] I need a better reference, as the blaster and arms cover up all the defining marks of the chest in the pictures I've seen. I'm leaning towards TK, as it seems to have the indents near the shoulder straps. Better screen caps will tell whether it's a TK, TC or a custom job.[*] Chest greeblies seem to be the same as what floats on the sides of the knees. You look to be on the right track there. [*] Back [*] As it's covered with the jet pack, I would rule that it's to match the same style as the chest plate. [*] Shoulder Straps [*] Not sure if there are any from the picture. Like the back, I'm sure they would match the chest. A better reference would be optimal. There's my breakdown. Have at it! I'd like to see someone with the determination to see this through. There's a reason why I've never attempted this myself... I'd just look plain silly in clone armor. -iz Need a better reference to see the panel markings if there are any. I would lean towards clone as the belt is from TC armor.

What she said. Just use your fingers and the friction with heat it up enough that it will peel away. Doesn't take too much effort. It's why I love the stuff. It's stays put until you want to remove it. As far as the shin goes, I would trim he back "overlap" to match the width of the front, if possible. -iz

Umm... Wait... People didn't know that was a joke? -iz

Since others have posted Mandos thought I post up a couple helmets, that I'm pretty happy with. They have been completed, but I haven't taken any pictures with the visors installed. Also sorry they're huge pics, but I'm to lazy to resize today. My wife's future Mando bucket. Winter hit before I finished painting the armor: Mine: You can get a glimpse of my Mando armor here, but it still needs tweaks before I'm happy with it:

I've worked with multiple Saz lids (around 7 I think), and the first thing you have to do is fiberglass reinforce the sucker. Use resin and cloth on the inside to make it nice and sturdy. They're beautiful buckets, but they are pretty fragile on their own. Second thing you have to do is take a tool and tap all of the lid (especially the ear and brow sections) and look for air bubbles. If you look for air bubbles before reinforcing it it has the potential to seriously break. When you find one knock a decent sized hole in it and pack it with the 5 minute epoxy putty you can find in the automotive section at Wal-mart. Then you can just sand down the bumps and not have a fear of something coming up later. -iz

Seriously, a 10 pound pack ends up wearing on you during a long troop. I'd hate to wear a "battery pack." -iz

Are you hitting the interior of the helmet with a coat of resin as well? -iz

Slow and steady is best.

Only an island or a small country? I thought it would take more... Like at least the moon. -iz

THis is coming, The command staff has been pretty busy with future plans.... Plus we have real jobs on top of it. I'll try to have it done by the weekend. -iz

What? Tired of seeing 3 of me? -iz

Yeah. I'll look through them. i think there's enough for it's own section now, i just need some time to sit down and sift through everything. -iz

Yes... Lots...

Seriously, Sith'ari, stop razzing the guy... We all know it's really 6'3" ***runs and hides*** Can't wait to see another nova trooping around! Be sure you post pics and ask questions if you need help or just want some ideas! -iz

Looks pretty good. you need to rig something so your belt sits up higher. It needs to pretty much be just up the ab buttons. -iz

Looks good, actually I would go with black tube stripes, been discussing things with the LMOs and as standards get pinned down, blue may be dropped off the list. I'll explain it in more detail later when I know for sure. Besure to drill and file out those teeth right to the edges so you get more airflow. -iz

Remember... make sure it's rusty! -iz

It probably would. I've trooped in them a couple times now so I need to post pics of the damage before anyone duplicates it. Hammer is for when you want to break things. -iz

Oh come on! This is taking longer than me trying to finish my AM kit. -iz

First things first. Get rid of the knee diamonds, the snowtrooper hand plates and the cheese grater hand plates. Second, have fun! -iz

What about the clamps? Have to keep the armor together while the glue dries somehow, -iz

Nice work! -iz

A dry brush technique would work with a testor's rust colored paint. -iz

Cool. Nice job on the helmet! It's probably a pain to work with a rubies, but they do make some nice looking buckets with the mods. This is what sicks out to me as needing so adjustments The shoulder "straps" between the chest and back are sitting a bit funny. You probably want to trim down the return a bit and heat/bend them to get more of a curve. From the pics, the biceps and forearms don't seem to have much shape it's probably a return issue again. I'd just clean it up with a dremel. Not quite sure about the boots and the way the holster sits on them. How were they made? Cover your neck, you're probably already on that though. Looks like you're well on your way to being approved! -iz