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New Question about Del Meeko Overbelt
Blackwatch replied to Wingman's topic in Inferno Squad Del Meeko
we can take it under review for change. I spefically remember that discussion as both Anton and Maxime were blowing my phone up all night long in our work group on messenger as they discussed the width of the belt. They were taking measurements in the game. Specifically we are discussing the overbelt, not the underbelt. Over Belt The Over Belt consists of 5 gloss black boxes made of ABS or similar plastic, mounted to a leather or leather like waist strap which closes under the thermal detonator. The waist strap is approximately 1.5" (40mm) wide. The over belt is worn around the under belt, so that the top third of the under belt shows above the over-belt. There are special-shaped boxes on left and right of the 3 central boxes which are horizontal in position as seen in reference photos. A total of 8 rivets are present with 2 rivets mounted vertically on the left and right at the edge of the special-shaped boxes. Hanging from the right side of the belt is a hip box made out of hard material. This is connected to the belt by 1.5" (40mm) wide black leather or leather-like straps. The strap is and as long as necessary to allow the box to hang on the wearers right hip. For basic L1 approval a standard Scout style hip box may be approved. The strap is attached to the front of the over-belt through a slot on the right side of the central box. The back end of the strap goes behind the under-belt, to the left side of the thermal detonator. The hip box strap has 1.5" (40mm) quick release buckles on the front and back. Each buckle is attached at the mid point of the strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The rigid front portion of the outer belt is made from the game's 3D model and scaled to the wearer. The box is smaller than a typical scout box, is curved, the back is closed with a back plate, and features a rectangular depression near the bottom out facing side of the box. The boxes may be lightly stained or weathered. Silver is not permitted. Wingman out of curiousity, and having just made my own thermal yesterday so small to tfit between the grooves of the standard officer belt, could you post a pic of your thermal as it is situated on your belt? -
loved my Jim coat until I got too small to wear it and had to sell it off.
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Ok thanks Ryan I wanted to get feedback on that before I went and did it. Im going for L2 and I may have wrote the darn thing, but ive never actualluy seen one of the and like I said our Idens is a velcroe'd mess. Any feedback regarding the Tripon suit? Second question Do we have a really good pic of the greeblie on the back of the thermal? its game specific and I cant sort out much from looking at the game images.
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I tested the armor and this is a new one on me. i've never fitted rubber bridges, no one here has rubber bridges other than our Iden and hers are a mess. I need to fix them. Anyway, i gret that the wedge goes inside the raised receptacle and can mount in there with heavy magnets. But the strap is a good 10 inches long. How do I get it into the back and keep it there? Make the hole bigger? Im afraid that will crack out the plastic and ive seen that happen (our iden is very badly cracked out from shoving the strap in the hole). Should I shave the rubber bumps down, once I have my nylon understrapping in place, so that the front is mounted and the back will either slip fit or magnet mount into the back? Ill check out the mudtrooper builds too to see what they do. I modded the nice leather holster I got from Darhmans Props to match the Game reference images in the CRL update discussion. this is with the ends stuffed into the receptacles, see how far down it hangs way off my shoulders. Regarding the Jim Tripon suit- Half our Garrison is a Pilot of one type or another. Half our Garrison uses Wampawear flightsuit. When each person pulled out my Jim Tripon canvas suit the reaction was the same from each. I had each person pull it out of the bag and feel it. "HOLY HELL" NO F'n way!! Look, ive been wearing suits from MonCal Loann$tarr Wampa and my own 20+ coverall conversions since 2008. NOTHING comes close to this. It will almost stand up in a corner on its own. I could feel it almost supporting me as I stood there. It comes with little shoulder pads already put in but one of my Flight Black Widows HowlingMad (Murdock, yes thats her callsign!) pulled 1980s vintage shoulderpads out of one of her old sweaters and we put them in my suit. Thanks Murdock! note the lack of bunching/scrunching commonly seen on the WampaWear suit which is considerably lighter in weight and has a back elastic. I had Jim remove the back elastic in the first place. I find no difference in wearabiilty and frankly they can be removed from all suits. feedback on the bridges appreciated
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wow what a pain in the a$$
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Imperial Army Vendor List - boots updated
Blackwatch replied to Blackwatch's topic in Imperial Army Units
updated with new boot link for frye mens boots. This boot will require modification. -
this is great! thanks for the link. I have never run across this boot before so its welcome. Boot styles and trends come and go. Ive been advocating cutting down regular engineer boots like from payless shoes etc to the recommended height, since it would be the shaft being cut down. ill update the vendor source list with this boot.
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Rick Steen - Inferno Squad Del Meeko W.I.P
Blackwatch replied to Rick Steen's topic in Inferno Squad Del Meeko
my armor maker sent me a bit plastic plate to cut to fit to make the bridge. it should match sheen etc for the two components. It can be seen mostl from behind as Del walks by the viewers perspective. A heavy duty slab of velcro would hold it in place thats how my local Idens is put together, shes got heavy duty 2 inch velcro front and back to close it up. -
today I started building up the tactical vest. Its not much, just a rectangle and some pouches added but it did take a few hours to get it all done. The leather straps are next after I mount the patches.
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Regarding Baton Holster And Shields
Blackwatch replied to karo's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
wet formig some ten ounce leather may be stiff and rigid enough to hold the baton. It think eight ounce leather (Belt stuff) would open up under the weight of the baton. -
I have all that to do with a pret guard im printing on my bambu, its work but I dont mind the work. Ill post my pics when I get the vest going.
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Rick Steen - Inferno Squad Del Meeko W.I.P
Blackwatch replied to Rick Steen's topic in Inferno Squad Del Meeko
Rick I spent a lot of time on that topic today. When we were writing the CRL the game images show it being hung by the lower leather srap on the tac rig. That will jus pull it down, however its accurate. Anton got us a ton of screengrabs that clearly show this. its allowed to hang from the bottom edge overbelt at your discretion which will be fine for L1, but the game images do show it hanging from the strap. I know thats going to be an issue. -
Regarding Baton Holster And Shields
Blackwatch replied to karo's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Karo and I spoke of this offline and I have to agree I think the research, attention to detail and amount of screenshots provided back up the belief that this was sourced. Maybe it started out life as something entirely differnt. Or maybe it was made in a plastic shop with a set of plans. Working that poly/ lexan/ acrylic at that length will be something a shop will need to do most of us arent going to have a hot wire ability to heat form that length of material. I looked up a bunch of items such as the kayak handles and they are out there. on the baton holster we had a lot of discussion on that but I thin for "set" simpler is better. we had discussions of TPU and formed parts being used. I have been of the opionion it might be a broom handle clip. I think this would definitely be someting to add to the CRL as an option. We never added the holster to the CRL because we could not defintiely say what it was or how it was made. @karo if you can give us some feild exertise on the holster you made and let is us know if it holds up, being just a leather loop, that would help a lot. -
WTF Andor Armour query
Blackwatch replied to TreeHuggerMatt's topic in Imperial Army Trooper - Andor
bumping for an answer for Matt -
Woot! GRATS!!!!!
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hi Ruby While the Aldhani troopers really are soft and comfortable working through a maker makes it expensive. Plus there really arent any patterns for this since its a show costume. The fabric is dyed denim, and from all the WIPS you can see that everyones shade is abit off because of how the dye works. And which denim is used to make it. in my case I always had to work a lot of overtime and save for a long time to get the stuff I wanted. Some of my builds took a LONG time! By the way have you sourced your boots yet? thats another item that can get very spendy. Please keep us up to date!
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Yes, Ill take care of that tonight and get pics. I got in it, wore it a bit and got out and left the house. It felt good. I spoke with Jim last night and he said he does not wash the suits/fabric so it "might" shrink some and Im ok with that. I specifically asked for no waistband elastic so we do not run into the scrunching issue we have on the back of lighter weigth suits , where we see the fabric scrunched together. Further research questions: Tac Vest The L2 spec is for a leather strap for the vest and I have that big bag of cowhide scraps. I have smooth and textured. Looking at our CRL research this appears textured to me, so I plan to use the textured leather for the straps. I will need to join some of them together to make the straps and the overstrap but six dollars for a bag of scraps is a lot better than 60 plus dollars for a hide that might or might not work. Commpad I have the file printed out out for the commad, but to be honest that file is a pain to asssemble and ive had them crack in half becase of how its designed. Im strongly considering modding one of my other Commpads. I print them all the time and its not THAT different however the size is specified in the CRL so I would just need to adjust that.
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Flightsuit is from Jim Tripon in the Phillipines. i got a few minutes to try it on and run around the house before I had to leave. Its heavier than the Wampa Wear suit, which is a lighter weight canvas. Id love to get some feedback on the appearance of the suit since I am looking to go to L2 Specialist approval. I know its missing the padded shoulders, Ill have to get me some and velcro them in. The fabric IS heavier, and I dont feel that the material wrinkles/ scrunches nearly as bad as the WampaWear suit. I believe the window for the commpad is large. It is supposed to show the entire commpad through the window, unlike most TIE pilots where part of the commpad is typically hidden. Feedback welcome!
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upate the DLT 19 is printed and Im working it over. im not going to flood the topic with pics, but its a DLT19X, nothing we havent seen before. Helmet and armor are still sitting in my box ready to go. I got a 3 pound bag of leather last night at HL so I can make the real leather straps for L2 approval. I got this big bag of mostly black leather thats perfect for the tac rig straps, for the princely sum of 6 ducats.
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OK!!! SO!!! this weekend I was struggling with my X wing o2 hose popping off my belt. its been an ongoing issue. Now, when I wrote the CRL i had to concede that the whole costume is built using game magic and there are no visible fasteners. Magnets are the issue, but HOW STRONG? Well I was handed someting Im not familiar with. A hard drive magnet. WHOA!!! This is NOT your typical NDBM magnet you buy online. I had trouble getting my hose back off. So, i now am the proud owner of a pair of hard drive magnets and THAT will hold the pouch up on my shoulder.
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Im still looking. I have a set on my Engineer and they have an oiler so Im gonna rob Peter to pay Del. I *may* order this set and just dye the thing to get rid of the white threads. https://www.amazon.com/WARCRAFT-EXPORTS-WWII-GERMAN-MP38-MP40-MAGAZINE-POUCH-SET-Brown-Sling/dp/B07GX33FTG
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Regarding that Flyee vest it is not necesarily approved as is. There was HEAVY discussion on the vest when we wrote the CRL , so it was decided that the Flyee will not be used. Its written into the CRL as the last line on Basic Approval. I am making my own from scratch so I know it fits me. If you are able to modify it accordingly, I would get with your local GML prior to starting that work to see if they will approve it since its called out in the CRL to be avoided.
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Agreed! Ive been doing this since 2008 and I have a LOT of helmets. Different types that wear differently. I have used the second type of pads that have the pieces joined together. black Catarpillar knee pads hot glued into the helmet hard hat suspension system with a snap back (not the knob type adjustment) bump caps but down to fit inside a helmet and velcroed in the traditional foam cloverleaf hth
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Del Meeko Belt for Ridiculously Tiny People
Blackwatch replied to duckie's topic in Inferno Squad Del Meeko
Nichole im building my Del as well but im the opposte Im bigger than most. So Im going to be watching your progress. I wrote the CRL so Id say Im familar. Keep in mind that the scout pouches used are not normal sized. Everything about these game costumes is SMALL .the helmet I got from Pilobay is his new mold and it tears my ears off and my eyelashes touch the lenses. The armor, belt, boxes, drop box, all of it is custom for the game. As so are the pouches: If it werer me, I would make smaller pouches based on your frame. I wrote this specifically for people who are smaller than others. These sizes are maximums, Id be going smaller than that. Ive made a LOT of pouches, they arent bad once you make the first one and figure out how to sew them inside out. Attend!- Scout Style Pouches Two "scout" style pouches are made of black matte canvas or canvas-like material. The "scout" style pouches are filled to appear full and worn at the back of the belt. The pouches will leave sufficient room for the Thermal Detonator mounted between them. Pouches may be hung from the tactical vest waist strap, or from the over-belt strap, at the wearers choice. Pouches are a maximum of 6" tall x 5" wide x 2" deep (152mm tall x 127mm wide and 51mm deep). The lower edge of the flap will not be wider than 2.5" (63mm). Pouches are proportional to the size of the wearer and match in-game references. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Scout style pouches match in game references. Bottom edge of the pouch flap is less than half the overall width of the pouch. Pouch outer flap has a stitch set back 5/16" (8mm) from the edge. -
some work before the freeze sets in. I got my pipes set and sanded the hell out of this print and welded the parts of the forward scope assmbly together. Its at the final putty round now, heavy application to make it "rounder". February Update: