Blackwatch

Thanks Paul. Thsee are great scans. lets keep this open. This is someting we had not previousl discussed, and it would give us literally an option, should the LMO allow it. It owuld also remove the annoying suspenders that alway fall down. Ive made leather SER14 holsters and I made one backwards one time because I put the pattern down wrong on the leather. That gives you that crossdraw. Seeing the rectangle, we can only make the surmise that you already have regarding this technical trooper. What are your thoughts? The word MEDIC in Aurbesh on the patch? We dont see rank bars on anyone in the coveralls, including Lt. Sunber, so my surmise is this is not a rank. None of our IATs or Engineers have a pocket to hold code cylinders, and things like cap greeblies seem to be hit or miss. I personall dont wear them becaues I wear my hat flipped around backwards under my helmet the way I did in the Army. I agree with the pouch layout assessment and the hip mounted pouch may be a medic pouch or modern MOLLE IFAK pouch. We know officers usually carry M-S power 5 or DL-44 but we are seeing the SER14 series more commonly now for NCOs. the medic box is literally just that, a cheap ammo can with tubes and wires. Easy half hour prop as far as Im concerned. Further thoughts and discussion welcome.

before moving on to any other discussion, i want to clear and lock this text. Once this is agreed upon , we will move forward. final text proposal. Chest Armor Chest armor matches visual references being accurate in shape and design. Chest armor is painted gloss white to match visual references. Light to moderate weathering consistent with reference images is permitted. The join between the chest and back armor are created by an angled sweep starting at the bottom of the chest armor and finishing at the bottom of the back armor. This may be held closed with magnets, Velcro, or another hidden fastener. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attach to upper chest plate and are painted gunmetal or dark silver. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The shoulder strap is white. It is permitted to be made of cast flexible urethane or other flexible material. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from bottom to top with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest shall be painted to match helmet and back armor. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Buckles have black recess on upper narrow section and the lower recess shall expose the chest armor. Moderate weathering consistent with reference images is required. Back armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor, shin and arm armor. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box.

troopers we are off track. While the discussion IS necessary, we need to focus back to the CRL text dicussion. We are now officially off in the weeds. This is why we go one item at atime. One item, once bullet point, one discussion.

i saw the file and i wanted to see someone actually PRINT it. Thanks Antonio!! I hate getting burned on a file that looks great on Etsy and turns out to be hot garbage when its printed. Now I can actually print it I have not taken the time to look at the helmet since were not quite there yet on the new CRL, it will be an optional part since only a few of the greenies actually wore them, and not for long, but once we are there and if we have Shayan's reference photos we can do a comparison. Id love to see a coule of other view to make sure this file matches our shape correctly.

we are working on the CRL for Ghorman and Season 2. That would be the appropriate place to discuss any changes/ modification since it will be a new CRL.

it goes to the front and there is a slot the keyway fits into. Warning- they all break. I dont know what the long term fix is, i keep gluing mine back together. mine has a small piece of webbing that feeds through the slot on the chest first, and conncts to a snap. I saw a shoretrooper this past weekend and both of his neck pieces were snapped right at the thinnest part where the keyway is. https://databank.501st.com/databank/File:TX_IST_Chest_Armor.jpg

I had it put in as an L1, but as you say its gone un-noticed and not commented on in the original discussion at any point, nor does the line//seam appear in any of the 3d model renders. Given its appearance as both a butt seam AND a topstich, Im inclned to allow both, even on the same vest.

Same here ive been out a week plus. I have been blocked off of the JRS website for months , I know Tristan fixed the issue, but now Im blocked again . frustrating. Thanks for the breakdown, and not everyone has a JRS account. My ear cutouts on the o2 bayonet are cut different than my Laws TIE helmet. This trims almost all the plastic off. My laws had big gaps, there are no gaps on the Del helmet. [Note: the round raised area on the back of the APH helmet is where the grommet was where the comm wire exited the helmet. The comm cord is on the pilots right in the aircraft so it routes down there, so when you yanked the big black and yellow handle over your head (this was a US Navy A6 Intruder pilot helmet, so the E handle was overhead on top of your helmet) the cord yanked directly off as you ejected. Helicopters often cross, not the case here.]

thanks Antonio!! And yes Del is not the easiest build. The parts are based on other parts but yeah, they are different. Even the end caps on the hose of the scout det are filled, unlike regular scouts and the greeblie is different than the regular scout greeblie. Ive not found a STL for that so Ill make mine in the time honored tradition. Im donating /giving up one of my black MP40 Sapper pouches for the Del built. The scout style belt is certainly different, its actually smaller, and the in game references differ on the location of the 8 rivets/ snaps/ silver domes.

I have an older set of Jimi armor and it has the typical Jimi neck--broken. I read one of of the WIPs or one of the non-wips that someone had a printed neck piece, maybe in flexible TPU. This is the kind of thing a lot of of need since the neck ring is the weakest point of the entire rig, and Im more than willing to pay for files. My google-fu has failed me. Help me Detachment, you're my only hope.

Good call Jarred thanks for posting that! Ill make that change. So, without rewriting all the text, a simple removal and change here and on the chest and back armor text will suffice: Chest Plate: Chest shall be painted gloss white to match helmet and back armor. Back Plate: Back plate is painted to match the chest, armor and helmet arms and shin armor.

aha so thats something we would love your commentary on when we get to that part of the CRL were developing.

its been a couple of days. Any input so we can move forward?

same here and im waiting for files to become avaialbe. I never have luck wth Evike sales or finding broken airsofts at "less than new" prices.

As with all things, some will model them over time while others will wait and release files after they feel they are correct. Im waiong on that best of a piece that Gharial carries to be able to be downloaded. I havent looked, but i know its a matter of time. I do know some people are modding MP40s. however as far as the standard blaster goes, we will dive into that in the CRL once we clear and lock all the other required components.

if you are using the two part bicep, you can add a slice to the inside to get the expansion you need. Monjouro at my fairly low dose really works my blood sugar down to reasonable levels!

Something was just brougth up about the vest that has been missing. There are two vertical seams on the vest at the inner edge of the webbing, on the outer edge of the M16 pouches. Im adding verbiage to what we have agreed upon. In the game play one looks topstitched, one looks butt jointed. Im willing to allow either for L1. New text in green. Please comment. Change log 2.1 Tactical Vest The tactical vest and its pouches are made of black fabric similar to the flight suit material. Heavy black canvas is recommended. There are three M4 / M16 style magazine pouches fitted to the front of the vest, each filled by a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each package has a black gloss strip mounted to the front at the top, which should appear to be constructed from a similar material to the costume's hard armour parts. There is a black block on the right side of the vest matching references, held in place by one of the webbing straps described below There are a total of fourteen wide horizontal black webbing straps sewn onto the front of the tactical vest, with four stacked horizontally on either side of the pouches, and two at the front of each pouch. Straps are approximately 1" (25mm) wide and sewn to match reference images. There are two vertical stitched lines near the inner edge of the horizontal webbing strips. This may be topstitched or butt joined. The main shoulder straps are made from leather or leather-like material, which cross at the back and attach to the top edge of the vest on both sides. The front shoulder straps are attached to triglide buckles, which in turn attach to the top front edge of the vest with a shorter strap. The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap runs through a tri-glide at the rear before feeding into approximately 1" (25mm) wide side release buckles which attach to the top edge of the vest. There is a leather or leather-like waist strap (approximately 1" or 25mm wide) present at the back of the tactical vest, and it is attached to the vest with one quick release buckle on the right or left side of the vest at the wearer's option. This quick release buckle is hidden under the scout pouch, and is not seen when worn. A single adjusting tri-glide is centered on the back waist strap. There is a specific buckle greeblie mounted above the front tri-glide buckles on each side, matching reference images. There is a horizontal strip mounted to each front shoulder strap, several inches above the buckle greeblie. The strips should be made from the same material as the shoulder straps. The Flyye tactical vest is not accurate and will not be approved for use. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The vest is proportional to the wearer. See reference images and the Costume Gallery for placement of specific components. All shoulder and waist straps are made of black leather or leather-like material. Vest front tri-glides are made with reference to the games 3D model, and are attached to the vest with straps that are approximately 1.37" x 1.37" (35mm x 35mm) wide. Buckle style greeblies made with reference to the 3D models are attached to the shoulder straps above the tri-glides. The front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers which are glued, sewed or bonded together. Stitching is permitted as long as the stitches are small and do not detract from the overall appearance. The first (bottom) layer is approximately 1.37" (35mm) The middle layer shall be approximately 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is approximately 9/16" (15mm) wide. The layered part of the leather shoulder straps runs up over the shoulders and stops below the rear of the collar. It then continues on as an approximately 1" (25mm) wide black strap, passing through tri-glides and into side release buckles, which are held to the vest with straps that are approximately 1" (25mm) wide. The three magazine pouches fall below the bottom edge of the vest. The top of the pouch is in line with the bottom edge of the upper webbing strap. The bottom edge of the pouch may come close to but not touch the top edge of the overbelt.

I just heard back from Jim on my own L2 level tac vest , its a change to how he has produced them in the past. Its looking really good and once I have it in hand I will share on my own WIP.

yanno-I totall see how you feel! I wrote the CRLs for Del and the Army troopers, and I never actually thought I would be joining either one, but here I am workign on stuff for Sergeant Gharial and for Del! In your experience were the goggles smaller than seen on the helmets or were they baicially the same item in size and scale? We have had some preliminary discussion on it, but not got to them yet. Personally I love the look of google on caps. I know it skeeves some people, but it reminds me of ally my WWII research as a model builder. In the US Army in the 80s we had them issued to us but unless we were at the National Training Centr or doing helicopter Rearm and Refuel we rarely wore them.

I beliee that is a Cucblac suit, it looks like his and it has the zippers at the bottom. He is located in Bolivia. Could possibly be a Fenixprops suit from Argentina.

We've had a request to amend the CRL for the Imperial Army Trooper. I will keep this topic open until the end of the month, when it will be closed and discussed by Staff. Currently CRLs are not being updated due to ongoing maintenance and overhaul issues with the Legion CRL system, so we can discuss, but also have to wait our turn for publising anything. Please see this topic so we do not re-cover ground already discussed. Reference photos Reference Photos

Matt Ive lost 160 pounds-over 11 stone- so yea armor is a great motivator. So is diabetes and paying for that medication out of pocket because my insurance wont pay it😕 I dropped soda and instantly lost a ton of water weight then started focusing on major diet and dialy routine changes. It all adds up. But now my armor fits. You can get there!

Agree with the chest proposal, and I think we can list the back at this point. From looking at the great closeups of Luis Martins' Instagram Post the weathering is very clearly black/brown wash just slopped on. Looks fine on camera but like crap in person. Sebastions question will be answered next but mentaly I've been leaning towards heavy marine vinyl, the stuff that has the backing on it that doesnt want to crease so easy. I just rewatched the scene where Gharial exits the cockpit and comes down the stairs, its a shiny flexible material, no pebble grain. it does swing when they walk. This is a mental note to myself, and we will cover that bit when we come to it. Back armor proposal- taken directly from our Andor Trooper CRL text. Change Log 1.0 Back Armor Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. The backplate features painted details that vary from trooper to trooper. Acceptable colors for these details are either silver or gunmetal, but one color must be chosen. Mix and match of the detail items is not permitted. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle, and recessed box color. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted silver or gunmetal. The silver or gunmetal paint does not leave the edge of the box opening. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is permitted. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. The raised slots are painted either silver or gunmetal grey. Shoulder straps are black and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. The chest buckle shall match the raised slot color. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward. There is a recessed hole approximately .31" (7.8mm) above the top left corner of the left recessed box. There are two indented squares approximately 1⁄4" x 1⁄4" (5mm x 5mm) aligned vertically above the right upper corner of the left recessed box. There is a raised step on the bottom of the main back box. Discussion We need to make sure that the buckles and the boxes are the same as what we see in Andor. Or not. Kevin Weier has stated on his Instagram posts abot making this new costume that he has upgraded and changed buckles and at least one part of the back box. Proposed changed for the back side: Back plate is painted to match the chest armor and helmet. Back plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. The backplate features painted details that vary from trooper to trooper. Acceptable colors for these details are either silver or gunmetal, but one color must be chosen. Mix and match of the detail items is not permitted. There are 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cut out/greeblie. Hose connecters are painted to match the strap raised slot, strap buckle, and recessed box color. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside, all painted the same white as the armor. silver or gunmetal. The silver or gunmetal paint does not leave the edge of the box opening. The vents at the top of the boxes may have the openings darkened with weathering. Four raised bars approximately .375" (10mm) long aligned to the top of the recessed box opening may be present. Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside that are painted to match the recessed box color. Light weathering is permitted. preferred inside of the recesses. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recesses. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. The raised slots are painted either silver or gunmetal grey. Shoulder straps are black white and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. he chest buckle shall match the raisTed slot color.

Looking good. Im so busy Im honestly not looking forward to making my own....

yeahhhh i run into that with the fabric treatment on Jawa monk cloth all the time. YOu have to scald the waterproof treatment off of it with hot water and I was advised 91% ISO alchohol will strip it but that will get very expensive very quickly. It almost seems easier to use regular heavy tent canvas, dye it black and add any details needed to make it a plash.