Blackwatch

Throw another log on the Spec Ops bonfire! I got my tan dickies coveralls online and they FIT! My wife took this HORRIFIC picture of me but hey, im just armor, helmet and a completed CRL away from being an OFFICER (not that my TIE counts..oh well)

after you CAREFULLY take off the shoulder straps and CAREFULLY (DId I say carefully? ) put one of them on the collar for the tab, you are about done. Money vs work on this coverall.

id give it a roger that. Try that, and give a light spray of the olive acrylics over it. make SURE the shoes are clean as you can get them. I washed my ATST gunner shoes in alcohol, still flaked right off. That was cheap apple barrel acrylics. If you can get some plastic binder or acrlic paint binder, that may help.

ive had thoughts, which can be dangerous. In discussion it has been agreed that this is basically Veers at an earlier stage of his career before we see him in ESB. its been agreed that the armor is the same. I have areas struck out in red based on what I can NOT see which is the antenna, the screw caps and the clips around the top of the skirt. I added that the clips and the screw covers MAY BE added. But what will our position be about the rangefinder? i dont even see it in any of the imperial officer tunic and pants versions that were submitted. Would the clips and the screw covers become a l2 variant?

you aint kidding. it was tough to write and tough to read. I even rewrote parts of it. PLEASE RE READ it and make sure I did not bolo it.

I think that the highlighted yellow is just a carryover from an initial cut/copy/paste edit it happens, especially with this much text. This will kind of get us into rehashing the discussion earlier that got us to this point, but this is not an easy CRL to write. SO, we need to finalize these: Serrated buckle as basic approval item To me the serrated buckle looks like what my dad had in snakebite kits in the late 70s. I think I have only seen those on tourniquets and bite kits. JAFOs post on page 10 says regular troopers had the serrated buckle right behind the goggle. Other closeups show what looks like a triglide. If the serrated buckle is seen on STANDARD troopers, and the triglides are only on the hero helmets, well that presents a conundrum of availability for L1 approval. Shin bend On page 6 of the original proposal there is a photo of the shin from the side , where you can see that only the top of the shin projects out sligtly, like a regular TK or Scarif shore trooper. Tunic collar language we need to clear this up. Thoughts ? Scarf addition This was not discussed in the original CRL proposal, but Darren pointed it out during the final proposal review (dark olive grey green or green military scarf, constrasting with the tunic) . JAFO wrote on page 4 SCARF Mudtroopers are seen to be wearing scarves and at least two types have been sighted so far. Based on onscreen reference, with the addition of personal behind-the-scenes images of a screen used scarf, the most seen scarf appears to be dark grey in colour. They have an open weave similar in look to hessian/burlap, however, the production source states they were very soft to wear. They were approx.. 52in in length. I propose the following be added to the CRL proposal: SCARF A dark olive grey or dark green military style scarf, with an open weave, approximately 52" long is worn around the neck. The color of the scarf should contrast with the tunic. Pants/pockets Areilly said on page 3: Pants: Custom design (Crossman) Used braces/suspenders (Unnamed source, not verified elsewhere) Jafo added the red text to Izzi's original proposal. I looked at the knees, they are definitely reinforced. pants are Black BDU/Work pants with double reinforced thighs. Black cotton pants with double reinforced thighs would be a true description. They do not have pockets or other adornment on the legs. Shall be moderately to heavily weathered.

I think that was an oops. I moved a few things around and intended to make that an L2 requirement that you had suggested a few pages back.

Its been a few days, is there any further discussion on the helmet, in particular The circular rangefinder ring the five clips around the helmet the round screw covers around the helmet rim Id like to get this nailed down before we move on. Proposal from above Helmet Open face helmet consisting of a dome (with rim) and helmet skirt. Helmet is identical to the AT-AT Commander helmet. The helmet is painted a Gray color. A "Rangefinder" is attached to the helmet dome. This is centered to the right side of the dome and aligned to the rim. The rangefinder consists of : Rectangular box about h/l/d 1.85" (47mm), 1.65" (42mm), 0.4" (10.16mm) with a slight bevel and details on. The box is the same color as the helmet. 1 screw cap or cylindrical knob approx. 0.4" (10.16mm) in diameter in the upper left corner. 2 cylindrical pins lined up in the lower left corner of the box. 1 cylindrical pin in the upper right corner of the box. 1 Rangefinder main detail (originally created from a Revell V8 carburetor, but not to be confused with the "Han Solo blaster" piece), aligned at the lower right corner of the box. Ring shaped antenna on top of the box with about 1.5" (38.1mm) in diameter and 0.35" (9mm) depth being cut at the top. There are 5 flat rectangular clips are may be, positioned equally around the helmet where the dome meets the skirt. (1 in the center, 2 on each side). Imperial Code Disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. There are 6 screw cover greeblies may be positioned equally around the bottom of the helmet skirt (3 on each side).

Im working in the Army trooper now after rewriting big sections of the Sapper, Ill fix the green section.

There has been no further comments in about a week, so I would like to propose this CRL with changes made. Note that areas of the original proposal that were red strikthrough have been removed. Imperial Army Sapper Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. The basic costume uses most of the major components of the Imperial Army Engineer. Helmet For 501st approval: Open face helmet whose base consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. The helmet skirt is to be smooth all around with no indentations on the rear. The helmet is black in color with a flat or satin finish. A black trim covers the edge of the helmet skirt and forehead of the dome. Black chin strap and chin cup Screw caps are mounted to either side of the helmet per the source art above or below the goggle strap. For level two certification (if applicable) Circular hearing protection attached to the chinstrap mounting point on the Helmet skirt . External mounting screw ( Holding Chinstrap and hearing Protection ) is covered with black screw cap. Black Imperial Army Jumpsuit For 501st approval: One piece black coverall with a front invisible zipper and mandarin collar. Each shoulder has a Imperial Army patch that sits 3-4" below shoulder seam 2 large chest pockets. 2 large cargo pockets sit on the outside of the legs from around mid-thigh and not extending past the bottom of the knee, with a rectangular flap covering the top of the pocket. Rank bars of any kind are not permitted. There are no pockets on sleeves or the font of the coverall leg. For level two certification (if applicable) Mandarin collar is closed by a chevron shaped strap across the neck A single black snap is present near the chevron point. Snap does not need to be functional. Cargo pockets billow out to appear full. Imperial Army Patch For 501st approval: Patch is shield shaped and is located between the elbow and the shoulder about midway. The patch has an Imperial cog symbol approximately 2.75" - 3" in diameter. The background of the patch has a more narrow shield shaped design on top of a box colored a darker shade of green. An olive green tab patch is permitted between the shield patch and the shoulder seam. Black Gloves For 501st approval: Black, leather or leather-like, enclosed fingered, non-textured Does not extend past the wrist. No buckles or straps. 3 stitched lines on back of hand are allowed. For level two certification (if applicable): Square padding is present on back of hand. Web Harness For 501st approval: Black colored, double strap "H" harness which travels from the lower back, and up over the shoulders. The harness system attaches directly to the belt via snap hooks which may be visible. Harness is made of 2" black nylon webbing. Black triglides for adjustment are permitted on the front or back of the suspenders. The back of the suspenders may be permanently attached to the belt, but is not required. For level two certification (if applicable) Harness fastens discreetly behind the belt Tri-glides are present on the front suspenders for harness adjustment Web Belt For 501st approval: Belt is a black 2"-2.25" wide nylon military style quick release web belt. Belt has grommets with eyelets along its length. Belt Pouches For 501st approval: Belt pouches are black and should be made of nylon or similar material. Two black belt pouches should be on either side of the belt buckle near where the harness meets the belt. MA47 double handcuff MOLLE PALS or other black nylon utility pouches are acceptable. MP40 pouches are seen worn on both hips. Black Canvas, Leather or faux leather is acceptable. A large black pouch is mounted to the back of the belt. A large side pouch, gas mask pouch, dump pouch etc may be mounted to the left side of the belt. Additional black MOLLE or similar style pouches such as Molle Strobe pouches fill out the belt as seen in source art. All pouches should be stuffed to appear full. For level two certification (if applicable): Small belt pouches will make use of a visible single snap closure or appear to have such Large belt pouches will make use of visible double snap closures or appear to have such. Chest Pouches For 501st Approval: Black rectangular nylon chest pouches are worn between the backpack shoulder straps. 1" -1.5" black nylon webbing mounts these to the shoulder straps. Either one large or two medium size pouches are seen in the source art. With minor modification black MOLLE pouches , First Aid pouches, SAW gunner pouches, gas mask pouches etc. are permitted for the chest pockets. No visible buckles or pull cords are permitted. Pouches will be stuffed to appear full. Two medium-sized (approx. 3"x 5" with snap closures) chest pouches are seen on some troopers. They do not have to be symmetrical. One large pouch (approximately 8" x 5" with no visible closures) chest pouch is seen on on other troopers. Boots For 501st approval: Boots match source art references , I.E. "Commuter" style boot Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles or any other embellishments. Normal leather grain/texture/lines are acceptable. Tread on the soles and heels is acceptable Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If not covered by leather or vinyl, zippers are painted black. For level two certification (if applicable): Backpack The Combat Engineer Backpack is used to carry the fundamental tools of the Combat Engineer to successfully plant their explosives or breaching charges. For 501st Approval: The backpack is overall matte black or satin black in color. It may be moderately weathered per the source art. Plastic or fiberglass may be used to form the pack and boxes. The backpack is formed with a bend as seen in source art. Four beveled boxes are mounted to the backpack with hidden fasteners. The pack has 2" black shoulder straps with black pads made from nylon, heavy cotton or leather mounted to the pack. 2" slide adjusters may be mounted to the bottom of the straps. No waist belt is present. Two top boxes are slightly beveled as seen in the source art. The bottom boxes are longer rectangular boxes, and are beveled at the same angle. The bottom boxes roof is slanted so the top edge of the box is taller than the bottom of the box. The demolition charge seen in the source art are mounted in different locations. Two different types may be mounted to the top of the boxes. The charge mounted to the sides may be mounted to the left or right of the pack. A different charge is mounted to the bottom of the pack. All demolition charges and mounting straps are painted matching grey. Primer grey is acceptable. Webbing or other means of representing the mounting straps will closely match the charge color. No color "warning" stripes or LEDs are permitted on the charges or pack. Shovel An entrenching shovel matching the source art may be mounted vertically to the back of the pack . Right side pouch A long black rectangular pouch may be mounted to the right side of the pack. The pouch is as long as the backpack boxes are tall and features a single snap closing the flap. Pouch will be stuffed to appear loaded. Explosive Charges TYPE A This demolition charge is roughly 4"- 4 ½" diameter with slightly larger end caps and is as wide as the backpack boxes. Both end caps feature 1" wide "coin slots" matching the diameter of the tube. Two grey mounting straps made of textile, plastic or other material are present on this charge. TYPE B This is the second charge type seen on top of the backpack. It is roughly 3.5"- 3.75" diameter and longer than the pack is wide. The beveled ends feature a depressed area with a slightly raised lip, and have 1" wide "coin slots" matching the diameter of the tube. Two grey mounting straps made of textile, plastic or other material are present on this charge. TYPE C This charge has flattened end caps slightly wider than the charge itself may be mounted to the right or left side of the pack. One Inch wide "Coin slots " are present on the end caps. TYPE D This demolition charge may be mounted to the bottom of the pack. It is almost as wide as the pack boxes and features rounded end caps with a flat spot / depression at the ends of the caps. A depressed circumferential ring feature is between the end cap and the body tube. TYPE E . These small demolition charges may be present horizontally along the bottom pack boxes below the shovel if mounted. These four charges are roughly the size of a can of soda, with a 2"-2.5" band around middle. There is an indented ring approximately 3/8" below the top of the charge. The bottom of the charge is flat, the top is a dome and features a raised disc at the top of the dome. It is permissible to use 2"-2 ½" webbing closely matching the color of the charges for the band to hold the charges together in a group. For Basic Approval Basic four block backpack, with either TYPE A or TYPE B explosive Charge mounted on top of the boxes. Choose 1 of these options: Shovel OR Right side Charge OR Type E Charge string. For level two certification (if applicable): Backpack shoulder straps should appear to be 2-part adjustable consisting of webbing with a chevron shaped top strap. A 1" "adjustment" strap passes over the shoulder , then goes into a hole in the strap, passes underneath the 2" strap and then exits the strap just above the chevron point . The 1" strap shall have a nylon "keeper" mounted below the point of the chevron. The adjustments need not be functional but should match source art. Level 2 Pack Option 1 Basic backpack outlined above, plus Type D charge and shovel Level 2 Pack Option 2 Basic backpack outlined above, plus type B and C explosive charges. OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES E-11 Blaster Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the E-11 is standard-issue for many Imperial troops. Light, compact yet powerful, the E-11 blaster is always in high demand throughout the galaxy. Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.

OK Everyone I have looked at the suggestions and made changes. Changes to wording or additions as suggestions Questions to be answered. including the Scarf which was not discussed (not added to this CRL proposal) SCARF A military style scarf is worn around the neck. The colour may be dark olive grey or green and should contrast with the tunic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ UPDATED / Altered CRL proposal: Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned just above the rim. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is in the same color as the helmet. The telemetry unit may feature a tied length of elastic bungee cord, approx. 4-5mm in diameter, looped around the outer upper section. A small tactical torch may be worn below the telemetry unit. A rubber trim covers the edge of the helmet rim with the join made at the rear center of the helmet. Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. These may be weathered. Disks DO NOT feature grooves or a notch. The helmet is to be painted in Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) to match the armor. The helmet paint finish may be textured, and is moderately weathered. When worn without the respirator, a black chin cup with tan webbing strap must be visible. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered. OPTIONAL Level 2 Certification (if applicable): The helmet has a polystyrene inner liner consistent with that of a skate or bike helmet. Torch on right side of helmet is similar to SureFire M300 Goggles Goggles shall have an aged chrome frame with detail painting, and weathering to match reference. The knurled nose bridge adjuster is brass in appearance. Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam. Goggles have dark angled lenses featuring two flat panels per lens. Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic - approximately 25mm and 40mm. The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap The goggle strap features a number of buckles: • There are metallic (gun metal) buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 25mm elastic is threaded. • A large buckle greeblie on the lefthand side through which the 40mm elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a beige square. • Two black plastic tri-glides on the right rear through which the 40mm elastic is threaded. OPTIONAL Level 2 Certification (if applicable) Serrated 25 mm slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 25mm elastic is threaded. Respirator The respirator is large enough to cover the wearers’ lower face, and is wide enough to extend to either side of helmet. The respirator has a ‘mouth’ which features a curved bottom, short curved vertical sides and arched top. The mouth is painted matte black. The mouth features seven vertical cut-outs in the top center. The three center lines shall be equal length and run from the top of the mouth to the middle. The next two lines on either side step down in size incrementally. Metallic mesh similar to reference photo is visible through the cut-outs. Two rubber breathing hoses, approx. 30mm outer dimension, connect either side of the vertical cut-outs. The hose extends over each shoulder and connects to the hose connectors located at the top of the back plate. The respirator features two rounded tusks that extend either side of the mouth. The end of each tusk features a filter. The filter consists of a raised center ring and three branches connecting the ring to the outside of the filter. In the center of each filter is a Hex socket cap screw. Filters are aged chrome in color, with outside edges slanted inward. Metallic mesh similar to reference photo is visible through between the branches of the filter. The respirator shall be painted olive green and moderately weathered. Above each tusk is a gun metal colored buckle through which 3/4in (19mm) tan webbing straps are fed. Each strap connects to a metal snap hook. These hooks are used to connect the respirator to the neck strap. The neck strap consists of a length of 3/4in (19mm) tan webbing with metal D-Rings sewn in to place. Tan webbing should be lightly weathered. The respirator can be worn to cover the face, or suspended around the neck of the wearer. Chest Plate Chest Armor matches visual references. Accurate shape/design to front of chest. There is an indented area around the outer edge of the center flat section. Buckles attached to upper chest plate. Shoulder straps are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. To the lower left side of the center flat panel is a recessed area angled inward from top to bottom with a raised rectangle greeblie and a recessed horizontal elongated oval. Left of the recessed area is a raised square that extends from the center to the curved side of the armor. On the top left side of the raised area is a raised oblong detail that protrudes outwards. Chest and straps shall be painted Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) and be moderately weathered. back plate and tubes. ??????????? Back Plate Back Plate has a collar that extends upwards and tapers to the chest plate. Chest and back plate meet at the sides. 2 hose connectors located at the top of the back plate approximately centered above each rectangular cutout/greeblie. Back has two large cut out recesses with vent details and greeblies inside. The walls and floor the recesses shall be Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) Each recess has different and specific set of boxes inside to match Rogue One backplates. Bottom left features a smaller rectangle cut out with the left side stepped. The floor of the cut out shall be black and the walls inside match the Matt Olive Green color of the armor. Half circle indent detail beneath the backpack section must be present. There is a long thin raised greeblie positioned central and below the 2 large recess. There is a small raised circle greeblie positioned central and below the above named greeblie. There is a raised slot on each shoulder for the straps to fit into. Shoulder straps are Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) with moderate weathering and are affixed to the chest plate at the buckle. Black fabric or leather loop drop down from the bottom of the back plate through which belts must pass through. Back plate is Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) with moderate weathering. OPTIONAL Level 2 Certification (if applicable): The hose fittings are angled forward, and approximately the same size as the hoses. Shoulder Bells Each shoulder bell is a mirror image of the other. The detailing of each shoulder bell is asymmetrical. Shoulders should have a longer flat edge that covers top of bicep with a shorter flat edge that connects to chest armor Shallow grooves are present in a pattern matching the photo. Shoulders are painted Matte olive green (similar to Pantone350u) with moderate weathering. Biceps Bicep cover strips are raised and beveled with a added strip layer on top. Left bicep is matte olive green (similar to Pantone 350u) with moderate weathering. Right bicep armor is painted red with three yellow squares on the cover strip, with moderate weathering. Biceps shall have moderate weathering. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Right Bicep Red color is Toyota Red 3E5. Yellow color is Montana Gold Shock Yellow. Pants Black heavy cotton pants with double reinforced thighs. They do not have pockets or other adornment on the legs. Shall be moderately to heavily weathered. Shins The shin plate is affixed to both boots. The shin plates bend forward at the top A harness style buckle greeblie attached to the outside edge of upper and lower shin plate. Straps extend from each buckle, and the inner side of the shin plate. Straps shall be the same size. Shins and straps are painted olive grey with heavy weathering. Tunic/Jacket A long-sleeved, Olive Grey, jacket that falls between upper and mid thigh. Has a high mandarin style collar with an open front. Has two panels on either side of the front, hidden zipper, extending to the bottom of the jacket with a width of approximately 6" in width. Has a stitched "cuff" on the sleeve that extends to around the middle of the forearm. If side pockets are present, they are built into the jacket, with no covering flaps present. No outer stitched pockets are acceptable unless they are fully covered by the armor. May have code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. Shall be moderately to heavily weathered. Optional Level 2 (if applicable): Jacket is made of an Olive Grey 12-14 oz Bull denim Twill material. There is an imperial cog patch sewn on each shoulder. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. Boots: Jackboot style, knee high smooth black leather or leather like material. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot. This need not be functional. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. Boots shall be tall enough to fit both shin straps. Boots shall be heavily weathered. Smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Style is same as Soviet Officer boots. Boots should form fit to the calf and not be loose. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Boots do not have a zipper. Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of Soviet Officer Boots. Gloves: Black gloves with black leather or leather-like material on the palm, thumb, and forefinger. The black oval detail is aligned with the index finger of each hand. Gloves have a U shaped velcro closure around the wrist. Gloves shall have all logos removed. Highlander brand special ops gloves are best match to reference. R1 style gloves are also acceptable for approval. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gloves are Highlander Special Ops gloves #GL033-BK, or an authentic replication thereof. Parka: Russian Plash Palatka Style. Parka is Dyed or Painted black. Metal grommets shall be painted or covered with leather to mimic leather grommets. Tied or otherwise attached under the chest armor and worn to cover the back plate. Parka shall be heavily weathered. OPTIONAL: Level 2 certification (if applicable) Ring Grommets shall be leather to match reference photos. Upper Belt - Leather: The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is a standard officer buckle. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles. Two boxes shall be present on either side of buckle. Dimensions are approximately 2" (50.8mm) by 3" (76.2mm) by 1" (24.5mm). Boxes shall be painted the same color as the chest plate and heavily weathered. Belt shall be weathered appropriately. Lower Belt - Webbing: Belt is black and is made from two nylon web straps sewn together with a zig-zag pattern which is approximately 3" (76.2mm) wide. The belt features five boxes. 1 x standard drop box, 2 x small, 2 x medium, 1 x long drop box. Boxes shall be painted the same colour as the chest plate and moderately weathered. Belt shall be worn loose across lower abdomen. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Long drop box is hinged Optional Accessories Ammo Pouch Yugoslavian M49 - M56 SMG style ammo pouch or replica. Replica must be made from leather or leather-like material. Pouch is fitted with two straps. Left strap is snapped to the underside of the abdomen. Right strap lays across chest plate. Snaps to the upper right side of the abdomen. Pouches shall be weathered or otherwise aged. Ammo Pouch USMC Vietnam era 4 pouch 5.56mm cloth bandoleer style. Pouch is fitted with two straps and worn over left shoulder to right abdomen Medic Markings Right bicep armor is painted white with three red stripes on the cover strip. There is a red image facing front that matches reference photos Biceps shall have moderate weathering. Replaces the red version of the bicep.

thats a lot like what I have. Mine are Lancer Tacticals, they are clear, but I can fix that.

its late and my eyes are getting pretty bleary but one thing I did make note of. On the tactical torch, yanks know it as a flashlight, but everyone I work with has at least one of these on hand. For sake of consistency on a worldwide platform, a link or photo will help. https://www.rayallen.com/511-tactical-atac-l2-tactical-flashlight I need go to back through this again tomorrow when my eyes are fresh.

heading to the new topic to check it out.

Thats pretty much what ATST drivers use on their helmets. I found a printed file as well. Theres quire a few STL files out there from various sources.

i cleaned up the characters left over from the server move to the original proposal, but I have not cleaned up any characters left over from inside of any of the quoated text.

I have a few pairs of these around, they are not shaded/ dark lens, so I wouild need to fix that. http://www.lancertactical.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&product_id=3242

they likely will not For the olive drab, talk to your GML first about using miiltry surplus coveralls. Not flight suits but the old fashioned coveralls....that does not mean that 30 year old vintage coveralls will match in color to cut up and use..SO..I bout the CDC olive drab coveralls. Very little modifiction needed! You can just see it at the neck, but what I did was take off the epaulets from the shoulders. These are Calif Dept of Corrections coveralls, and they have shoulder epualetes, and are very well made. It takes a while, and a sharp knife, but get those off, and fold one under and stitch it to make it into the collar closure. I put a snap on it through the original buttonhole. The pockets are already on the legs and chest. Its more expensive, but most of the work is already done for you.

The key thing is, read what were discussing, compare it to the images, and see if we missed something, or that what we wrote made sense or if we need to change the wording. Never be intimidated to let us know if we miss something! We will take the discussion topic by topic and cover the whole thing head to toe. In all, this looks very straightforward and Im looking forward to getting this completed. well add the gunbelt to the discussion once we work our way down to the Officer belt section.

Ive added the straps i made to the pack and I am working on the explosives. Slowly getting there. Helmet is being fabricated. With the interest in the tan army trooper we are also making a slighly smaller helmet for the Garrison ladies that want to do this.

I just commented on another topic about the green paint flaking off. Im really thinking about getting a pair of cheap wellingtons and stripping the leather dye out and dying them green.

Mine does the same on my ATAT gunner shoes. It just flakes right off. Im considering green leather dye for mine. Given that, how about stripping the boots down to base and applying a couple of coats of acrylic paint?

Im on my phone at work. Ill look at it tonight.

Please do I git the green Sportsmans GuideFrench gloves and they are GREEN

This is going to be fun