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For the ab/cod i think u could make the split an L2 thing if keeping tk conversions in mind for those terrified to cut the armor in half lol. it doesnt really affect the look to have it fused. pauldron we may have a solution i will bring up in the WIP

I posted chest and ab together due to the recessed lines they share...though in the CRL I believe the back will come in between them. I highlighted the center section in yellow...mostly from what I see happening in my own build...that the ab being totally different, I will be using the cod but a a 3D printed ab in its place. It be fused pretty simply I believe and would have no issue doing it, BUT the references may even indicate that they are not fused. The turning of Kreel definitely offsets the ab from the cod and indicates it as a separate piece. I think we can leave fused as an option...but I would suggest that an option to have them as separate pieces be allowed...and potentially the Level 2 req. Thoughts? One other point I'd bring up because it isn't clearly mentioned in the text...but the lines of the ab armor should be a continuation of the lines in the chest armor. We probably should make mention of that. It appears as such in several spots. Will take input on how to word that? That might be something to examine against your build as well @darthRivera EDIT: I also added only the Level 2 bits from the Shadow Stormtrooper I thought applicable. If I missed anything please let me know. Thx! Chest Armor Overlaps the abdominal armor. There are two recessed lines, slightly curved and vertical, on either side of the chest. Width of the lines decreases as they progress to the bottom of the chest armor. Chest armor must match in-comic references. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Chest plate shall have return edges all around, maximum width of 3/8" (10mm). Chest and back shall be connected with a white fabric (preferably elastic) that does not stick out or show under the shoulder plastic straps. Abdomen Armor The abdomen and cod piece are combined/fused to a single plate/one piece. Cod piece is white in color. The abdomen is black in color. There are three white vertical lines in the middle. The outer lines are aligned with the two recessed lines of the chest armor. There are four white rectangles. Two on each side in a horizontal and parallel position. The rectangles are slightly elevated above the surface of the abdomen. Rectangles cannot be drawn or hand-painted There are no visible snaps or rivets. Abdomen armor must match in-comic references. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): There should be no gap between the ab and kidney plate, a single visible seam line is ideal. Any gap between the abdomen and kidney armor shall be no more than 1/2” (12.5mm). Any shims used to achieve this effect shall have a similar material and color as with the abdomen and kidney armor. Shims should be flush and seams are allowed.

@darthRivera Thx for the feedback. When he can we will let @IcyTrooper make the final call on the stripes but I think w all of the non-standard TK bits we see, it would seem acceptable to me to do the same here w the black stripes…still allow blue for possible TK conversions but make black the higher standard. For the shoulder, I will move to your WIP thread to troubleshoot some ideas for a hard plate. As far as the standard in the CRL…especially if we target L2, mobility would normally be a non-factor as much as the look. It’s a comic…we will never know (so we can be flexible at L1, but how theyve drawn it really gives me the impression its a hard part. Again, we can finalize these w @IcyTrooper

Will be posting chest/ab in a bit but before I move fwd, I wanted to ask 2 questions about previous parts just to be sure… - Helmet on Kreel (I need to check others) has consistently black tube stripes. Add as an L1 option and an L2 req? - Pauldron. Last bullet needs word “affix” fixed to “affixed”. But my question…the more I look at it the more I’m convinced this is an outer hard shell. Im ok to leave what we have as L1 BUT Im wondering if it should be a piece of plastic armor attached over the shoulder bell, at the very least for L2. I think this could be a part 3D modeled fairly easily bu someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff as well. Thoughts?

K tomorrow morning I can post text for chest and probably ab as i think they tie together (with the lines) to review unless someone beats me to it.

@Luthien what are of florida are you in btw? trying to round up our shadow scouts in central fl cuz we have quite a few now

Ok so uf ur rdy to bump that to top thread we can move to chest and ab I think and just use our standard handllate and glove text.

Alright @darthRivera @IcyTrooper I've taken the proposal and meshed it with some of our standard TK/TX Level 2 text. I also split the pouch/compad into separate pieces (meaning separate pictures if possible). NOTE: On the pouch/compad there aren't level 2 requirements YET (we can move stuff to Level 2 if needed), though I did add lines for the pouch closure (flap) shape and the rivet there. My wording on what that rivet is may not be correct. @Blackwatch may have a better suggestion on that word. For the compad, I added a bit that the pad must be lit in full. If we need to make further adjustments let me know…then I think we can just use standard hand guard and glove text…so we can move to the chest and ab/cod. Biceps Biceps are fully closed. Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed. There shall be a return edge that is present with a maximum width of 3/8" (10mm) width. Bicep Pouch There is a small pouch on the left bicep held by a strap around the bicep. The pouch is black in color and can be made of leather or leather-like material. Pouch is proportional to the size of the wearer and will match in-comic references. Pouch closure is trapezoidal in shape. Pouch closure has a snap/rivet. The strap is black in color and made of elastic, leather, leather-like material. The strap is approximately 1.5 "(40mm) wide. Forearms Forearms are fully sealed and closed. Overlap construction is only allowed for kits that come with the cover strip molded into the part. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Must be constructed using the butt plate joint and cover strip method. Overlap construction is not allowed. There shall be no return edges present on the inside of the front of the forearms. Compad There is a holographic communicator fastened around the left forearm by two straps. Holographic communicator has a rectangular shape and is black in color. It has an aqua or light blue colored screen that must be lit in full. Holographic communicator must match in-comic references and proportions to the wearer. The straps are black in color and are made of elastic, leather, or leather-like material. The straps are approximately 1.5 "(40mm) wide. Black in color made of leather or leather-like material.

When I get home (daughter had some surgery today), I will put up bicep and forearm w the pouches and compad split separately for review. Then we can move torso sections.

@darthRivera Looking at your bicep text I just have 2 questions… -Should we separate the pouch text from the bicep text as a separate item? -Your text lists the strap for the pouch as leather. Im wondering if leather/leather-like should be the only material or if elastic would suffice. Thoughts? P.S. These same questions would apply to forearm…as well.

i know @IcyTrooper is super hammered still. ive pinged him for his draft work if he has it n maybe i can push it forward But for now I can go back n check your original draft n lets move to the next part, biceps

Yes thats why I didnt list him…but might have gotten it together n could be a worth a shot.

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Close @Trock! Like you mentioned the areas of concern would be the forearms/gloves and the knee gap. By the look of it you could drop the forearms lower closer to the gloves. They seem high up on your elbows from the side views. For the knees, it looks like you have your shins up as high as you could risk putting them based on the rear view and where theyre sitting on the boots. You must be a tall trooper! Maybe @IcyTrooper who is taller than the avg stormtrooper can give suggestions. Maybe drop the thighs a little? I noticed your rivets on the the thigh ammo need to be painted black along w the holster rivets (see CRL model pic).

have a pic of what we are looking at?

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Good news! @KentuckyTIJc @javi sanchez @WEBS Our current CRL model @thisiskevin who designed and donated his 3D file design transferred the files to me yesterday. Just need to get with @nanotek on the best way to host/distribute these. Stay tuned!

Nice fit on the soft parts! Here are a couple of things I noticed, only one of which might be a “must” once you fit w your armor: -If you’re aiming for a Level 2 Specialist application, the sole of the boot will need some cuts. Hard to make out on the CRL, but here’s a link to the model’s own Specialist app showing the boots a little better. https://forum.specops501st.com/topic/7547-tx-13016-shadow-scout-specialist-application-approved/?do=findComment&comment=94500 * This is the possible must-fix. Boot height looks like it could potentially be too high. You will know better once you have the knee armor but I have a feeling the knees will overlap a decent amount w the boot tops. - Maybe…width of flak vest neck opening. CRL states it as “much wider” and it seems like yours isnt that much wider. May not affect an approval but would def affect a Level 2 app I think. But something I would hold off on messing with until youve tried it w armor on. Good job on those boots! I was in the same boat when I tackled mine…def easier than it appears. Well done!

to me they work. worst case, can make that sole a Level 2 req like the shadow scout boot cuts.

I think they could work. The only difference I see, once a covering is put on, is the sole in the front…has some cuts while the reference looks smooth.

High boots were initially accepted BUT after looking at the references used for the CRL no high boots were ever used by the IATs and so the shorter boot became the only acceptable option. If you follow the CRL @Hoda posted u should be good

Nice. Still learning these new 3D prints rolling out. Another critique on the bucket, the forehead and nose bridge should be either decals or flat surfaces and not actual indented vents. Id also suggest (especially for durability as u will prob be lifting the visor as u put on/take off bucket) is to replace the 3D printed bolts with with either plastic or metal bolts…concave ones for Level 2

Noted. Thanks for sharing. I am unfamiliar with the 3D stuff in general.

No word tho a couple spoke to me about it last year sometime. Ive encouraged them (as Im sure @nanotek and @Chaos have) to plug in here to keep the community updated but I havent seen any action here on that and tend not to follow the build groups much.

Thanks for sharing! At a glance here I am somewhat concerned about the look of these files. Others can def chime in, but the. bicep raised area appears overly raised. The greeblie looks like it is part of the print and the recessed area it should sit in doesnt look correct. Likewise the chest shape and indent just seem off for some reason. Anyways I hate to sound like a downer. Everything may look good in person and I could just be acting overly wary of 3d print files (because they are everywhere)…but still thought I should at least mention the concerns. May I ask where you sourced the files? Are you aware of others using them?