Blackwatch

The key thing is, read what were discussing, compare it to the images, and see if we missed something, or that what we wrote made sense or if we need to change the wording. Never be intimidated to let us know if we miss something! We will take the discussion topic by topic and cover the whole thing head to toe. In all, this looks very straightforward and Im looking forward to getting this completed. well add the gunbelt to the discussion once we work our way down to the Officer belt section.

Ive added the straps i made to the pack and I am working on the explosives. Slowly getting there. Helmet is being fabricated. With the interest in the tan army trooper we are also making a slighly smaller helmet for the Garrison ladies that want to do this.

I just commented on another topic about the green paint flaking off. Im really thinking about getting a pair of cheap wellingtons and stripping the leather dye out and dying them green.

Mine does the same on my ATAT gunner shoes. It just flakes right off. Im considering green leather dye for mine. Given that, how about stripping the boots down to base and applying a couple of coats of acrylic paint?

Im on my phone at work. Ill look at it tonight.

Please do I git the green Sportsmans GuideFrench gloves and they are GREEN

This is going to be fun

Glad you found it. Shoot me your Email and Ill send you the template. Also, the TAN officer with armor has a officer style collar, with no strap.

No. Its in the final stages of being molded. Im working on my explosives, my backpack is done. Have we settled on a particular goggle?

There were a ton of extra characters that got moved over from.the old server. I cleaned up a bunch already in other posts. I dont see the color stripes you are seeing.

I have been at a convention all weekend and it absolutely sapped me. Absolutely no pun intended. The drive and the Heat and everything else and then going back to work today just took it out of me. If we have hit all of the points then I guess we are waiting for a pack to be completed so we can get submission photos.

We see it in one panel. It's something we can discuss. Does anyone have input on the proposal for verbiage regarding the commlink antenna clips and greeblie position?

OK! SO, lets break this down. As discussed above it was beleived this may be a suitable Han Solo variant. We know now that is not the case. It is a tan coverall only. Lets take a look at the helmet first and make sure what we have written is what we see in the art in the three frames at the top. Discussion: After careful review of the helmet, I believe that in most regards it is the same at the Armored Ground Commander. I do not see evidence of the circular ring antenna. If it were present, it would be visible in both the Veers and the female commanders views. The five rectangular clips, and the six screw heads are also not visible, but that does not mean they are there. There are makers that build these helmets in this fashion (Tambo comes immediately to mind) . With that in mind, and given that this would also have the rod style greeblie inset into the back of the helmet, I I propose that we alter the text of the helmet CRL to read as follows, with no changes to the rest of the text concerning Level 2, microphone headset or goggles: PROPOSAL

Neal i like it! So it seems we are in agreement. Cool name, less confusion between the type. Actually other than the pack I carry all my Army gear in a parachute bag. I hated my duffle in the Army, and snagged a para bag ad it held SO much more. Tomorrow night Im leaving for the weekend where I intend to spend both days in my Engineer.

It may come down to it that Han has his own, but its probably better off to create the footnote for now. If needed another version using the same text would be fairly rapid to create, but duplicate.

Im with you on this, and we seem to be the first two.

Kevin thanks for sharing that. It brings us to a great point about the armor, that is easily missed. Your MonCal set, Snowtrooper sets, my own Scootch gear, and all that I have seen have the raised double bar on the right side. Per the proposal, the "silver greeblie" may be omitted. A trooper could grind it away and back fill it with plastic, bondo it and paint it and it would fine, because it matches our other source art. In this art, the greeblie reminds me of the Harrier model part used on so many ESB and ROTJ costumes. It looks like at lest half of it in the art, cut up and moved around. The part is used on so many things, most visibly Endor Troopers, ALL OVER Boushh and as the rank on Lando Calrisians collar. If a person wanted to go to that level, that would be great, and if not, that would be great too because its art and its up to the artist. But at any rate, its an optional item to have it or not, per the proposal. The one thing that does seem to be consistent here in our art is the color of the helmet, and minus reflections and shadows, the armor somewhat matches. Do we want to further define which "grey" will be used for the armor and helmet, or leave it to the individual and their GML? Primer Grey varies wildly, but my preference as far as color has always been Rustoleum 2X primer and paint grey.

Kevin thanks for posting that. You will possibly be lead on this, so please post EVERYTHING you do, have, acquire, obtain, come about or finagle. two questions for you, and a comment 1 your officer blouse looks fabulous. It looks very well constructed and the collar is perfect, however: This brings me, to the tan jumpsuit which is being defined for this costume. Did you post the helmet/goggles and headset for reference, intending to make the tan suit? 2 Who makes the helmet you have? I maintain that you cannot have enough of these helmets, and I have four being made for myself at the moment. 3 did you make your headset, and how is it to wear for a while?

@Raider one of the first things we need to do is clean up the text and remove the extra characters from the forum move. With the color, we need to make sure that the helmet & mask color match the other part descriptions.

Kevin thats a good question, and welcome to the forums. Thats often the case when there are officer variants of a uniform--who gets it. We have Lt Sunber here in our Army forums after developing the CRL.

awesome!!!! Ive seen his packs. they are beautiful. I hope he had no damage. Ive been through every storm in South La since 2003. Not much good to say about them. SO, is everyone happy with the wording as proposed? Is there anything else we need to cover? If not, then I would like to turn our attention to exactly what we will call this uniform: Discussion: The current proposal is called the Combat Engineer, which makes a modicum of sense. Wikipedia- the knower of all things- tells us that a combat engineer is a soldier who performs a variety of both construction and demolitions tasks under combat conditions. Engineers may build peacetime structures, and this is what most engineers do, most of the time when not deployed. Other terms for this specialized field soldier are "pioneer" or "sapper" and each Nation treats the term differently. Within the US Army, Sapper is a specially trained soldier, whos primary MOS is not combat demolitions or building earthworks, revetments, bunkers or large defilades for armored vehicles. They may be regular Infantry that received intensive skills training, and are typically entitled to wear that nations skill tab, patch or other skill marker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_engineer Id like to hear from the Command Staff in addition to anyone interested in this project, since it will be the term presented to the LMO. Will we be calling this a Combat Engineer , Sapper or another term, maybe even a combat demolitions team?

Its not, but at least Automotiveworkwear suits go on sale all the time and you can easily do the conversion. Heres my original build topic when I built the first suit. Page 2 has pocket photos of how I put them on. This was my WIP as a FIL costume, so a lot of things changed while I was making it with both Det and LMO input. The big pouch on my back had velcro that I took off. I cant let good velcro go to waste on a pouch thats just getting stuffed with rags. I added two snaps to it. The other pouches had their little nylon loops cut off, added a black snap and stitched in them place. Easy stuff. Things to keep in mind : There are only four pockets, and they have flaps. I used spare suit materiel to make a proper Imperial collar (ive converted many many many "flightsuits" for both Legions). I used the original collar to make flaps for the chest pockets. The leg pockets sit rather low, and should be stuffed. Mine has foam and rags to stuff them. A snap is seen on the collar. this is not typical for the Imperial forces but seen in the art. On my green suit i used leg fabric to make a simple closure after folding the collar down on itself, and stitching it so it would stand up. If you want to go whole hog with the collar, this is how I do it: This is the same collar template I used in my Imperial and Rebel flight suit tutorials you will see scattered across the Legion Det forums. Ignore the point in the back, thats from ESB. This is made from two pieces of fabric cut on a bias, topstitched together face to face (wrong side out) and then flipped right sides out, ironed all to hell and back ( I iron everything to death), and stitched all along the top and along the chevron closure tab. ALSO, I plan ahead and sew soft side velcro on the tab before i sew them together. You do not see where I added the velcro closure that way, its hidden on the inner collar face. Leave plenty of fabric on the bottom when you cut the template out, and fold and iron this under. I stitch the inner face to the coverall neckline first, then stitch the outside down. Its both sturdy and looks neatly finished.

you know, i honestly dont know. A shovel could be cast up, as long as there is a mold. A toy sand shovel may not be a bad starting point. There is plenty of evidence for flat stamped shovels (CHEAP EMPIRE!!!) and some that look like they may be tubular. Its a shovel. I went with Sintra because I have so much of it , its black, and it weighs nothing. My entire pack is 3MM and 6mm Sintra and its fairly light. But anything can be molded, as long as enough silicone is bought to make the mold. My engineer was pretty well disassembled at a recent con. I paid for my ticket and came in the front and they went through each pouch AND pocket (as well as all bags, purses, carrages etc). I held up the line a while as I removed all the stuffing from my pouches on my hips. Some of the stuffing and foam is glued in and they were satisfied that I was nto going to attack anyone with my glued-in pouch stuffing. Shovels----thats different. The new Security Forces Im starting to see at some of these cons will be able to feel it and determine it is not harmful. but anywhoo heres my shovel. i weathered it in the mud where my front yard used to be before the Parish contractor destroyed my yard and my street for road improvements.

Kerry you might want to add an inch or so to that strap on the back of the shoulders. Otherwise Im digging it. That green patch sure does set off the black, doesnt it!?! but there is one bugaboo, the leg pockets go on the sides like BDU pockets. they ride kinda low, too. I thnk I am using the same coveralls you are.

@TX-15293 Neal with Crookknight making the prototype pack, which charges are you going with? Did you determine which top charge he will make it with? it will pretty much define the L1 pack. Essentially which of the top charges will be preferred, (long or short) or will we use both at troopers discretion? Also everyone my computer is acting really stupid. I spent most of last night trying to get online. Not only for here but for job search stuff. Peckign things out on my phone just doesnt work half the time.