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Recently the TV Show Kenobi showed an new version of the Purge Trooper (Phase II) which has some clone parts, but also has some differences from the original Purge Trooper from Jedi Fallen Order:

  • Helmet - seems to be a combination of many different helmet styles
  • Backpack - new
  • Shoulder armor - I see some variation from the standard clone shoulder armor
  • E-11D blaster - Weapon of the Death Trooper
  • Boot Spats - new

Also given that the Clones have essentially been phased out during this time period in Star Wars lore, it could be argued that the character is not a clone but a stormtrooper with improved armor.

Lets start a discussion on what makes this costume Spec Ops!

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This will be the main listing and we'll tackle each part piece by piece (green is done, yellow is WIP, and red is not finalized):

  • Helmet
  • Neck Seal
  • Under Suit
  • Pauldron
  • Shoulder Armor
  • Upper Arm Armor
  • Elbow Armor
  • Forearm Armor
  • Hand Plates
  • Gloves
  • Chest Armor
  • Back Armor
  • Backpack Radio
  • Abdomen Armor
  • Cod Armor
  • Posterior Armor
  • Belt
  • Thermal Detonator
  • Kama
  • Thigh Armor
  • Knee Armor
  • Lower Leg Armor
  • Boots
  • DC-15S Blaster
  • DC-15A Blaster

Description: Purge Trooper Phase II
Prefix: TX
Detachment: Spec Ops Detachment
Context: Star Wars: Kenobi (TV Series)

These specialized troopers operated under direction of the Imperial Inquisitors they were assigned to. Within their assignments they either lead other Imperial units in eliminating discovered Jedi or guarded locations such as the Fortress Inquisitorius on Nur. Purge Troopers were highly trained in utilizing various types of blasters and melee weapons.

Special Notes:

  • The armor parts shall be satin and made from one of these (or similar) types of materials:
    • Fiberglass
    • ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene)
    • HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene)
    • PLA, ABS, PETG (3D Printing)
    • Polyurethane Rubber
  • Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy
  • 3D Printed parts are permitted but all print lines and other artifacts must be removed.

Helmet

  • Painted gloss black.
  • Lens must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. The eye lens is one continuous piece with a mirrored red tint.
  • The central vocoder (chin detail) may be molded as a separate piece and is inserted into a recess in the mouth plate or it may be molded as a part of the mouth plate, but with a prominent recessed outline to create the appearance of being separate.
    • The top part of the vocoder is rectangular in shape, with two clipped dog ears on the top corners.
      • A smaller plate of identical shape sits on the top of this panel, leaving a narrow margin around each edge. There is also an angular cut out at the top of the right edge of this plate.
      • A second rectangular plate sits on the top of the first, covering approximately 40% of bottom of the lower plate.
      • There is a raised horizontal line on the lower left side of this top plate.
      • There is a small square recess underneath this raised horizontal line.
    • The main body of the vocoder sits below the panel described above.
      • 9 raised ridges run vertically across the vocoder.
      • Angled wings at the top of either side of the vocoder ridges, each slightly under approximately 50% of the length of these ridges. These wings angle down to the rest on top of the main mouth plate.
  • Square profile side tusks run back from the lower edges of this front plate.
    • Recessed rectangular metallic silver screens are inset into the greeblie in the front of each side tusk. Each greeblie has a raised ridge on 3 sides, angling up from the bottom side of the greeblie.
    • 6 pill shapped symmetrical recessed stripes on each tusk, with the bottom of the recesses filled with red to match the pauldron, belt accessories and left bicep armor.
  • A small raised horizontal rectangle with a recessed line is located below the vocoder.
  • The frown must have 10 raised teeth, with angled recesses painted silver.
  • There is a silver rectangular plate on the nose, between the teeth and the front plate, with a silver half moon greeble on top. This plate is recessed below the angled face plates on either side. The half moon greeble is level with the adjacent face plates.
  • There is symmetrical recesses with a pill shaped greeblie on each side between the side tubes and the cheeks.
    • The top of the greeblies are split in half with the top half being flat and the bottom half having 4 raised ridges that are level with the flat half.
  • There are sharp angular cheekbones sculpted into helmet face plate running in a triangular shape below the lens opening.
  • There are 3 raised ridges run from the center of the brow, over the top of the helmet and down to the rear center of the helmet skirt. The central ridge is approximately 2.5 times wider than the ridges to either side of it.
  • A winged greeblie sits below the center of the brow ridge and above the eye lens.
  • The top of the helmet is separated from the face plate by a horizontal band running above the brow. A groove separates the top of the helmet and the rear skirt, running across the back of the helmet, meeting the brow band on either side. The side greebles (communicators/range finders) are attached on top of the joints between the band and the ridge on either side of the helmet.
  • Symmetrical rectangular greebles (communicators/range finders) with semi-circular ridges underneath, present at the back of each side of the brow band, situated on top of the point where the front band meets the rear groove.
    • The greeblie contains two raised and stacked squares, each with a circular LED or sculpted imitation located near the front, and a single recessed line in the shape of a square outlining the back two thirds of the greeble.
    • OPTIONAL - The top and bottom may be lit using LEDs. The top LED must be a warm pale yellow (similar to a warm incandescent bulb), the bottom LED must be red.
  • There are 2 small pill shaped double indentation in the bottom corners of the faceplate, under each ear. The rear indentation is vertical and slightly longer than the front indentation that angles toward the front of the helmet. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The central vocoder (chin detail) shall be molded as a separate piece and is inserted into a recess in the mouth plate.
  • The aforementioned greeblie on the back of each side of the brow band must have the top and bottom lit using LEDs. The top LED must be a warm pale yellow (similar to a warm incandescent bulb), the bottom LED must be red.

Neck Seal

  • Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck.
  • A bib may extend from the bottom of the neck seal to ensure that the entire neck opening of the chest and back armor is covered. The bib shall be made from the same ribbing material as used on the undersuit.

Under Suit

  • Base undersuit is made from a black, non-textured material, either one or two-piece construction with no visible logos/designs.
  • Any zippers must not be visible when the full costume is worn.
  • Ribbing material must be present anywhere the undersuit is visible when armor is worn on top.
  • All ribbing must be horizontal.
    • Each rib and groove can be no wider than 1/8 inch (3.175mm) (one rib and one groove equal 1/4 inch (6.35mm)).

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The undersuit is one piece construction.
  • A zipper runs along the entire front and encloses the front of the undersuit.  This should not be visible when the full costume is worn.
  • Non-visible areas of undersuit (e.g., forearms, center of thighs, waist and calves) do not have ribbed material present.

Pauldron

  • Must be red in color and made from vinyl, leather or leather-like material.
    • The pauldron differs from a standard pauldron in that the edges nearest the shoulder are cut at a 45 degree angle.
    • There will be a black edge at the red area of the pauldron.
    • The red area of the pauldron is made from the same material as the rest of the pauldron.
  • There are 6-7 sections that are stitched around the neck of the wearer before the red area of the pauldron.
  • Any stitching is black.
  • There is an elastic strap that runs under the bicep and is attached to the pauldron with 2 black snaps.
    • The strap is approximately 1/2 inch (12.7mm) wide.
    • The strap is attached underneath the pauldron, not over it.
  • The pauldron opens and closes via one opening in the back with an overlapping closure to give the appearance of a singular piece. There is no visible method of the closure method.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • There are 7 sections that are stitched around the neck of the wearer before the red area of the pauldron.

Shoulder Armor

  • Painted gloss black.
  • The shoulder bells are considered effectively symmetrical; they may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders.
  • The top center is recessed between the two ridges and runs from the top of the shoulder to the bicep and notches into the lower rectangular area.
  • A raised ridge runs along the bottom along the center recessed area and onto each of the two ridges
  • There is a black 1 inch (25.4mm) strap that attaches shoulder armor to shoulder straps from chest and back armor.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Shoulder bells are padded to give the armor the appearance of being elevated off of the bicep armor.
  • There is a webbed strap that runs down and connects bicep armor to shoulder armor.

Upper Arm Armor

  • Right upper arm armor is painted gloss black.
  • Left upper arm armor is painted gloss red.
  • Upper arm armor must sit underneath the shoulder armor.
  • There is a dimple on the lower area of the back of the arm.
  • The outside of the bicep has a hard line edge at the front that turns in.
  • The inside of the upper arm is rounded.
  • There is a small vertical seam line on the inside and on the outside rear of the armor.

Elbow Armor

  • Painted gloss black.
  • Armor has two parallel dashed detail slots on each outside edge of the elbow at the strap connection.
  • Each elbow armor piece has a black rubber or rubber-like strap that is attached to the inner end of the armor and wraps around where the wearer's elbow bends.
    • Each strap has a raised detail line at the top and bottom of the strap.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The inside of the armor is padded to slightly elevate the armor off of the elbow of the wearer.

Forearm Armor

  • Painted gloss black.
  • Armor is a two-piece design with a top and bottom.
    • Armor is joined together with visible seams on both sides 
  • Both left and right forearms are mirror images of each other.
  • Right forearm has a compad with 8 small buttons and 1 large main button. A second slightly smaller rectangular button sits centered on the main compad.
    • The compad placement is closer to the bend in the wearer's elbow rather than by the wrist. Compad placement matches reference photos.
  • Forearm tops have a flattened triangular area with a ridge that comes to a point at the top center of the forearm.

Hand Plates

  • Painted gloss black.
  • Hand plates are mirror images of each other.
  • Hand plates have a top curving ridge just past the knuckles of the hand.
  • Hand plates turn down in a triangular shape that point towards the base of the thumb.

Gloves

  • Black in color, made of Nomex, leather, or leather-like material, with no visible straps or logos/designs. The fingers are enclosed, non-textured.
    • The palm, thumb and forefinger are black leather or leather-like.
  • Cuff is made from black elastic or elastic type of material.
  • Extends underneath the forearm armor.
  • The hand plates are attached to the back of each glove with no visible method of attachment.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • There is a curved cut out in the forefinger leather.
  • The palms have 5 raised padded sections that match the reference photos.

Chest Armor

  • Painted gloss black.
  • The positioning descriptions with reference to left and right are as if you are a looking at the armor from the front.
  • Two raised rectangles aligned vertically in center of armor.
    • The left rectangle has small raised line along outside edge.
    • The right rectangle extends slightly above the left rectangle and has a small notch shape on right edge and 4 small horizontal rectangles on the lower left corner.
  • Raised 4 sided greeblie is located on the lower left side of the armor with a raised circle that has a round red lens on top and a raised vertical rectangle below the lens.
    • The lens may be painted to give the effect it is lit or it may be electronically lit producing a steady, non-blinking, light that is red in color.
  • Two raised vertical rectangles on the lower right side of the armor.
  • Chest and back armor match together at the sides via a connection piece.
    • The connection between the chest and the back armor may be fabric, elastic, plastic or rubber, so as it closely matches the armor color.
  • Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.
  • The round red lens is electronically lit producing a steady, non-blinking, light that is red in color.

Back Armor

  • Painted gloss black.
  • Backpack radio is permanently attached to back armor.
  • Chest and back armor match together at the sides via a connection piece.
    • The connection between the chest and the back armor may be fabric, elastic, plastic or rubber, so as it closely matches the armor color.
  • Shoulder straps are slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points or attached behind them.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Shoulder straps must be slotted into the detail ridges of the top connection points.

Backpack Radio

  • Backpack Radio is painted gloss black.
  • Please also reference the gallery images when referencing the below details.
  • Radio consists of a horizontal top panel and front panel and vertical side panels. Front and side lower panels angle inward to meet bottom panel.
  • The top plate has rectangular recessed area that includes the following details:
    • Clips on the left and right side appear to attach the backpack radio to back armor. The center of these clips have a screw, rivet, or similar method of attachment that is painted black and does not need to be functional.
    • A short, thick antenna with a funnel-like base is mounted on top left. 
    • Large slide switch near right of antenna base.
    • Next to slide switch is 1 long vertical rectangle, 2 shorter horizontal stacked rectangles and 1 long vertical rectangle.
    • Right of the long vertical rectangle is a raised cone shaped cylinder with a flat top and a recessed round button.
    • Next to the round button is a small vertical rectangular button.
    • A beveled edge runs around the outside of the top panel.
  • The front plate has the follow details:
    • Recessed band runs horizontally across center.
    • On the upper left side within the recessed band there is a square with shallow slope angled downwards.
    • Long horizontal recessed rectangle sits above 3 circular inset shapes. The rectangle is divided in half by a diagonal bar and is filled with recessed diagonal bars. The 3 circular inset shapes each have 2 inset rings.
    • Bottom angled panel has a circular button on bottom left corner.
  • The left side panel has the follow details:
    • Horizontal recessed band aligns with band on front and ends at raised side panel.
    • Raised side panel runs from the center of the bottom angled panel and extends just above the top panel.
    • Slightly raised vertical rectangle with 5 equally spaced horizontal raised rectangles with beveled bottoms.
    • Horizontal rectangular red lens at bottom of side panel. The lens may be painted to give the effect it is lit or it may be electronically lit producing a steady, non-blinking, light that is red in color.
  • The right side panel has horizontal recessed band that aligns with recessed band on front. 

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • Horizontal rectangular red lens at bottom of side panel of backpack is lit using LEDs or the equivalent, in a steady, non-flashing manner.

Abdomen Armor

  • Armor is painted gloss black.
  • Two inset lines divide the abdomen armor into segments.
  • Four holes, approximately ¼ inch (6.35mm) in diameter, are present in each inset line.
  • Abdomen armor is completely contained under the chest and back armor.
  • Abdomen armor wraps around the wearer’s body and connects at the rear via a rectangular kidney armor plate which covers any visible seams.
    • There is no visible method of attachment for this kidney armor plate.
    • The kidney armor plate is made of the same material as the rest of the armor and is painted to match.

Cod Armor

  • Armor is painted gloss black.
  • Cod armor hangs from abdomen armor, separated from the posterior armor.
  • Cod armor is triangular in shape with a soft bottom edge.
  • Cod features a trapezoidal groove on the bottom area.

Posterior Armor

  • Armor is painted gloss black.
  • Posterior armor hangs from kidney armor, separated from the cod armor.
  • Armor features raised details in the center.

Kama

  • The exterior is a black leather or leather-like material.
  • Any stitching that is used is black.
  • The exterior is divided into 4 large panels and has the following details:
    • Three small pleated panels, roughly 1.5 inches (40mm) per panel, of equal height are stacked vertically at the bottom of the Kama.
    • The rear center of the Kama has a slit that runs from the bottom and stops a third of the way from the top.
  • A red corded seam runs along the front edge on both sides and matches the red used on the armor.
  • The inner lining fabric has a pattern representing black cogs on a red background (vinyl material acceptable) and has the following details:
    • The inner lining is divided into 4 large panels that run top to bottom.
    • Black repeating cog pattern covers the entire interior.
      • Each row is offset from the row above and below and are roughly 1/2 inches (12.7mm) in diameter.

OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

  • The exterior is black leather.
  • The red on the inner liner fabric is raised, giving the appearance of an embossed pattern.
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1 hour ago, nanotek said:

Source on these two pics? I'm just wondering if I can get the originals in higher quality :)

These are from Ardeshir who was in the stormtrooper on the far right. He was in kit. 

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There is a Purge Trooper Phase II builders group on Facebook with over 130 members in it right now.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/325055693163782

Lots more reference photos on there, too. Plus, Chris The Prop Guy on Etsy has completed his 3D model of the helmet and armor based upon the reference photos and the Gentle Giant release.

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11 hours ago, ScarifBeachBum said:

There is a Purge Trooper Phase II builders group on Facebook with over 130 members in it right now.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/325055693163782

Lots more reference photos on there, too. Plus, Chris The Prop Guy on Etsy has completed his 3D model of the helmet and armor based upon the reference photos and the Gentle Giant release.

Yep I am a member, however if there is any CRL development it has to be done via forums. If there are references missing from here please feel free to add them here

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While the pics are awesome, Mark is right we have to develop a official CRL through this process, not off-site with no oversight. 

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Supposedly the helmet at least was based off some of the Dark Trooper concept art that can be seen in the art book for Mando S2. Will post some scans when I get home in a week if they're any use. If anyone else has it on their shelf, feel free to upload instead.

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I checked out the Mando S2 art book and the Purge P2 helmet was definitely taken direct from one of the rejected Dark Trooper concepts. Unfortunately there's only a single drawing of that specific one in the book, which doesn't really add anything to the references we have already.

So looks like we'll only get new material from a Kenobi art book, better views of the upcoming figure, or more behind the scenes peeks.

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A bit late to this party, but while not making the costume specifically, I am working on some of the soft parts, ie, the pauldron and kama.  The kama is going to be interesting as according to one of the stunt actors, the Purge Trooper kama has a similar lining to the Grand Inquisitor cape lining with a bunch of imperial cogs.  I am chatting with said actor who has been active on Instagram posting some of the BTS pics and trying to figure out if the lining is the same or if there are some varied differences.  

The secondary thing I am also trying to figure out is the connection method on the left shoulder of the pauldron.  This also may be illusive until better references unveil themselves but I can get a rough concept going pretty soon over the next several weeks.  

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One thing to start on the helmet - in several references you can see a red glow at the back of the helmet, which at first I thought was just a glare from the base lighting. But in a couple of shots (such as above) it seems to be a replication of the white light above the red light seen on the sides of the helmet (see below). My instinct is still that it's just a glare, but I can't be 100%. Has anyone seen any clear detailing on the back of the helmet yet that would clear that up?

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I'm currently studying the whole costume, but the softparts are a struggle.

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The undersuit is different on each picture.

On the first one and the second, it looks like the suit is ribbed from the shoulder to the upper part of the forearm. It's sadly really hard to be sure.

On the third ( taken from the serie's propmaker studio), only the chest looks ribbed, the arm is completely smooth.

On the fourth ( taken from the exposition of genuine costumes at the Toy Sapiens store exhibition, thanks Hyuta Nihira !), the suit is ribbed on and from the chest to the elbow.

 

What I assume is :

- On the third picture, the suit wasn't finished

- On the fourth one, people that assembled the costume didn't fully and properly stretched the suit to the bottom of the arm, you can see that between the biceps and the elbow. They aren't very meticulous since they assembled the belt upside down --'

What do you guys think ?

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On 9/30/2022 at 1:13 PM, Skablaze said:

I'm currently studying the whole costume, but the softparts are a struggle.

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The undersuit is different on each picture.

On the first one and the second, it looks like the suit is ribbed from the shoulder to the upper part of the forearm. It's sadly really hard to be sure.

On the third ( taken from the serie's propmaker studio), only the chest looks ribbed, the arm is completely smooth.

On the fourth ( taken from the exposition of genuine costumes at the Toy Sapiens store exhibition, thanks Hyuta Nihira !), the suit is ribbed on and from the chest to the elbow.

 

What I assume is :

- On the third picture, the suit wasn't finished

- On the fourth one, people that assembled the costume didn't fully and properly stretched the suit to the bottom of the arm, you can see that between the biceps and the elbow. They aren't very meticulous since they assembled the belt upside down --'

What do you guys think ?

You can see different shades on the suit. Comparing to the images with visible ribbed texture i think, that every "darker" part of the suit is a ribbed section 🤔

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On 2/17/2023 at 12:44 AM, TX-20113 said:

Like @tipperaryred told, they obviously took the helmet from the mandalorian S2 art book. Is that the image in the book? I don't have it, so...

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No, I think it's a different image but showing much the same. I think it was just a sketch in the art book, with very little detail. That's why I didn't take a photo at the time - it was very clearly the helmet that ended up being the P2 Purge, but it didn't offer any details. I'll take a photo next time I'm back with my books anyway to check.

Thanks for the reminder Anton, I lost track of this with everything going on late last year. Let's get back on track 👊

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Id like to help the crl along any way i can. i have bought chis the prop guy new andor/kenobi clone files with the purge trooper specific parts. i will begin printing and post updates as i get them. also getting some custom red silk/polly fabric printed with the cogs for the kamas. after allot of research his new files look spot on.  

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