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Yeah I had never heard of Gio doing a Death Trooper boot, the only one I was aware of was the Imperial Boots one. I checked his store and there's nothing there.

Congrats!

It would help if you provided more information, like a link to what you are talking about.

Nice work, looks great!

We killed Tapatalk back in May due to bugs, support and security issues.

I am hoping to get together the some money to get one as well. The only issue is that they had to skimp on details due to the downscaling. I have noticed some big differences in line work

Added some more detail to this. Also there are differences between the toy and the real life costume. The toy has had to drop some of the line detail due to scale. Counted 15 recessed lines on the real life model. Also note that the pill box appears to be angled out. So the top edge is a straight line and the bottom of it angles out to form a small triangle giving the appearance of a "box" that houses the pill recess

I also tried to do some helmet shape sizing. It’s a weird mix between Deathtrooper and FOTK, I apologise for the sloppiness here, I did this on my phone

Just a little pic to show just how flexible this material really is! Look at how the ab is bunching up there! This really is a flexible PU!

Ready to gain agreement Cuirass & Gorget (Chest/Back Armor) Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume Cuirass is comprised of the Chest and back, with a Gorget forming the neck opening Cuirass Back The back has an O II (02) shape is made up of recessed II and the O is a recessed circular line divided almost in half by an intersecting horizontal line The bottom part of the circle is recessed, is black and is slightly smaller in appearance than the top half There is a small black vertical oblong recess in the top half to the left side The back has two trapezoidal "buckles" at the top back of the shoulders where it connects to the chest shoulder trapezoidal buckle The back has a recessed trapezoidal shape at the bottom of the left shoulder buckle that has more than13 recessed vertical lines The bottom of the this shape is the same length as the top half of the lower trapezoidal section. The angle of the bottom matches the angle at the top of the bottom trapezoid. The recessed/raised lines do not extend all the way to the bottom The inside line of the trapezoid matches the angle of the buckle On the back there is a raised trapezoidal section that starts at the base of the back and extends towards the left shoulder. There is a small recessed rectangle directly about the top of the trapezoid and is black. The top of the Trapezoid is the same width as the bottom of the recessed trapezoid under the top left shoulder. The angle of the top of the this trapezoid is parallel to the bottom of the recessed trapezoid at the base of the left buckle. The raised section gets higher towards the top and arches out slightly from the wearer’s back. Cuirass Chest 3 vertical oblong recesses near the collar on each side of the chest near the centre opening The chest extends over the shoulder towards the back forming the shoulder straps which have an attached trapezoidal buckle that appears to connect to the trapezoidal buckles on the upper back armour. There are recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect a few recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front. Raised smooth/flat section at front extends around the under arm of the wearer towards back. Starts as rectangular and tapers to match shoulder/arm hole There are two raised panels on the lower section of the chest, each extends under the arms towards and forms the lowest part of the sides. Each panel has the appearance of a separate piece and there is a recess that runs around the outside edge Left lower panel has one recessed diagonal channel Right lower panel has a small rectangular box/raised area with at least 12 evenly spaced, vertical and slightly angled recessed lines, the bottom of the box/raised area extends slightly outwards from the wearer. There is a clip & buckle greeblie separated by a ratchet strap greeblie in a recessed cavity just above the box (please refer to the diagram) There are a number of vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole. There are a number of recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section. There are a number of vertically diagonal, evenly spaced recessed lines that start approximately halfway under the armhole and extend back to and underlap the Cuirass back. The recessed lines match the diagonal shape of the back armour. Both chest sides connect to the lower back armour The centre section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top Gorget (Collar) - One piece that goes under the cuirass to form the neckline of the armour Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume Sits flat around the neckline Sits under the cuirass (or chest/back) and fits closely to the Neck Seal and appears to be part of the cuirass If there is a seam, it is as unnoticeable as possible and shall be securely closed with no visible overlaps or gap present There are 3 visible steps forming rings around the neckline, ascending from the neckline to the cuirass or chest/back. The third ring from the neckline and is closest to the armour has the following details: 15-17 raised sections that start and end at the shoulders, one centre raised section at the centre front that matches the width of the opening of lower front part of the cuirass opening, 7 smaller and evenly spaced raised sections that extend towards the shoulder Segments 1-5 (from the centre section) and 7 are roughly 25mm wide Segment 6 (from the centre) is roughly 25mm wide OPTIONAL (Level 2) The gorget must be a separate piece with no seam constructed of a flexible rubber like material Chest shoulder buckle is a separate piece Ratchet strap greeblie has 5 visible teeth Small rectangular box on the right chest has 13 recessed vertical lines Trapezoidal recess on the back under the left buckle has 15 recessed lines There are 8 recessed lines extending diagonally out from the back collar to the shoulder, these lines intersect 6 recessed lines deep with the vertical horizontal lines on the front. On the front chest there are 27 vertically diagonal and evenly spaced recessed lines that start at the top of the rectangular part of the front boxes, and extend towards the armhole. There are 12 recessed diagonal lines under the arms that extend from the armhole towards the front, intersecting with the curve of the raised box section. The centre section of the chest has the appearance of being a separate piece that has 12 rectangular and horizontal recesses in lower section, 5 vertical recesses in upper section and a small rectangular recess near the top

Thanks mate I think you're absolutely right. Based on that last square in the bottom right corner, the way it has been "joined" is slightly off:

I have not been able to find any separation between the chest and back. The shoulder seems to morph from the chest into that termination block at the back. I also cannot find a decent enough pic to confirm the separation between the termination block and the back.

So we are saying that the Chest/Back armor is comprised of 3 components: Poncho, Center-Chest Plate and a Back/Yoke? If this is the case then maybe the CRL should be written with the Chest/Back as one section that can easily be divided into L1 - L3, I would expect that this level of detail will be L2/L3

Based on what you're saying @gmrhodes13 and what I can see here is my closest representation of the chest/back armor with the poncho The green represents the "poncho" and the blue represents the outer armor. Judging by what I can see the outer armor is one piece that sits over the top of the "poncho" to give the appearance of one piece then overlaps and closes at the back (solid blue). The irregularities that you are seeing around the neck are probably due to the way they were fitted or difference in actor body shape around the shoulders.

This was one of the reasons I was holding off on the chest and back CRL, it appears that that the chest and back are one piece joined at the back, however they are two layers with the "poncho". That top left picture is very telling! On the side show toy there is a small seam, but on the real world suits there is none. Did you notice the little ledge on the abdomen towards the back to keep the belt aligned?

I saw that in the FOTK and wondered about why you would considering they are different boots. One has a heel and the other does not. It’s up for debate, however it could be an opportunity to “fix” it? For me personally, I think it should be what’s on screen or display.

This section is now pending agreement. Once agreement has been reached then I will add this to the main CRL text. Boots & boot armor Boots: FO style boot finished in a gloss or semi-gloss red that closely resembles the armor Sole is black rubber with no visible heel No visible buckles or laces Boot Armour finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume Fixed to the top of the boot and sits under the spats divided into 3 sections that the top front section has a number recessed lines running vertically as shown the outer section has diagonal lines running parallel to the edge of the armour as shown the inner panel is smooth/flat and has no recessed lines the front panel is of equal width to and lines up with the front section of the shin OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The boot color and gloss shall match the armour Top front section of the armor has approx 10 recessed lines Outer section of the armour has at least 14 visible recessed lines Rectangular section on the toe and the heel of the boot that is knurled Stitching at the top of the sole runs the entire diameter of the boot There is a seam down both sides of the front that swoops out to the side of the foot There is a vertical zipper on the inside that spans the height of the boot.

I have to say I am really interested in the back/chest armour. There are a couple of things that stood out for me. First is that there are overlaps where the back overlaps the sides: Then there was a couple of things that @gmrhodes13 pointed out in the videos where it appears that there are two layers to the chest/back: Above I have tried to illustrate the point he was making by highlight the front and back of the chest/back armour. It's kind of like a poncho idea that was used with the Deathrooper except that it forms part of the armour. I am thinking that the chest and back are the same piece but with two layers. What does everyone else think?

I am in a agreement there

If you have some hi-res ones send em via google drive or drop box

That image is a bit pixelated and lighting is wrong, Cannot see much except there is something there. There is definitely a lot happening up under the brow. Will try to put that into words...

Perfect!

Ready for agreement Spats Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume The spats wrap around the lower ankle The spats are enclosed on the outside of the ankle with a clip greeblie that overlaps from the back side over the outside There is a flat section at the back of the spat that is equal in width to the rear flat section of the shin Are fitted over the top of the shin Are fitted over the top of the boot armor OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Clip greeblie is the correct spat greeblie There is a visible seam on the inside of the ankle

Up for review Belt and Boxes All parts finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the color of the entire costume The Belt sits flush to the bottom of the belt-ledge on the abdomen Is about 50mm or 2" wide and 8-10mm thick Has no visible openings or fasteners Has the appearance of being flexible 6 belt boxes are attached securely to the belt Attached to the front are 2 evenly sized rectangular, horizontal boxes with the appearance of lids, matching the width of the belt. The outer edges of the box are filleted. Front-Right drop box is rectangular, mounted just above the top of the belt and drops down vertically, it is a single box in appearance that has no lid or visible seams. The edges of the box are sharp. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is 8-10mm thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt) Front-Left drop box is rectangular, mounted just above the belt and drops vertically down and has the appearance of a lid with a chamfered horizontal edge about 3/4 down from the top. The edges of the box are sharp. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is 8-10mm thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt) 2 drop boxes with diagonal recess, towards the side rear, near kidneys on each side, mounted slightly above the belt, has a pronounced appearance of a lid and is deeper in volume than the other boxes. The box is mounted to the belt with a piece of material that is 8-10mm thick like a riser. (Gives the appearance of hovering slightly outward from the belt) There is a diagonal channel on the lid that starts near the top front of the box and extends downwards to the rear. The channel extends around to the sides of the lid. The outermost face of the lid has slightly filleted edges, the rest are sharp. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of flexible PU or rubber type material Belt ends must connect behind the front boxes Belt is approximately 50mm wide and between 8 to 10mm thick The dimensions of the two front boxes are as follows: About 100-110mm wide by 50mm high Outer facing part is about 8mm thick, inner part is curved to match the abdomen The boxes form a slight inverted 'V' shape when viewed by wearer The dimension of the front right box Box is flat with sharp edges and is about 14-15mm thick Is about 80 mm wide Is about 95mm high The dimensions of the front-left Box Inner box part attached to belt is 10mm thick Outer lid part is 8mm thicket the top and 4mm thick at bottom below chamfered edge Total width of the box is about 80mm wide Total height of the box is about 100mm The lid has a 45 degree chamfered edge that turns inwards about 64mm down from the top or about 22mm from the bottom The dimensions of the side/kidney boxes The total box width is about 75mm The total box height is about 95mm The box lid has a diagonal channel that is about a 4mm wide, starts 25mm from top-front to 25mm up from bottom-back and extends around the sides of the lid 6mm wide channel 8 mm in from front, running around the perimeter of the box forming the lid Total depth of the box is about 26mm

Ready to go Posterior Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume Sits directly under the belt and has the appearance of being attached to the belt assembly Is trapezoidal in shape yet curved to a posterior shape Has a recessed trapezoidal section directly below the belt, within this section are further recessed lines running horizontally OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Recessed trapezoid section has approximately 14 recessed lines