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Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Hat Text Version 1.0, taken directly from the Imperial Arm Trooper-Andor trooper (Green). Hat Fabric matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76mm) down, decorated with (5), (6), (7) or (8) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap”. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Ive been unavailable for several days, real life conseuences of being the only person in my Station to do the work. Back to it now, and I agree, lets finish the goggle and move on. -
PArmstr's Imperial Army Engineer WIP
Blackwatch replied to PArmstr's topic in Imperial Army Engineer
Patricia you always amaze me! Sewing your coveralls to fit from scratch. Yep. Amazing, no matter what side of the conflict you are on! -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Ive been gone a week and just now getting back. I feel the CRL proposal is fine, I have always felt (and found) that when we start deep diving into details that are not outwardly visible, we set ourselves up for failure down the road. We also create a scenario just like we had the day the Aldhani CRL was published where there was a call for a rewrite. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Subtle weathering, if present at all, would be t match the ref images and we will have plenty posted to our Galleries once they are built. We discussed the mount of the TU and how the strap feeds under it on the Aldhani version and by the way the strap was being yanked on those helmets it goes under the TU. Goggles Goggles shall have an aged chrome or silver frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image. Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam. The Goggle strap mounts directly to the rubber or foam trim. Goggles have a green tinted lens featuring two flat panels on each side. Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic. The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap. The goggle strap features a number of buckles: There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25.4mm) elastic is threaded. A large buckle greeblie on the back side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a square inset into the buckle matching the helmet color. A black 1.5" (40mm) triglide is permitted on the right side of the buckle at the rear of the helmet. Goggles are worn just above the brim of the helmet. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Serrated 1" (25mm) silver slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded. Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm). 1” (25mm) webbing elastic is should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles. Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet. Goggle strap has the Telemetry Unit mounted directly to it on the right side of the helmet. Quote -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
I have posted the final text of the Security Trooper helmet to the first page. Lets take a look at the goggles. We know the tinted lens is green or dark green, it seems to shift around. It may also come down to whether the helmet was a stunt helmet, a closeup character helmet, or background character. Goggles Goggles shall have an aged chrome or silver frame with detail painting and weathering to match reference image. Goggles shall have a trim around metallic frame. Trim shall be rubber or foam. Goggles have a green tinted lens featuring two flat panels on each side. Goggle Strap features two sizes of elastic. The thinner elastic strap attaches directly to the goggles and is sewn to the larger strap, which forms the main goggle strap. The goggle strap features a number of buckles: There are metallic buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25.4mm) elastic is threaded. A large buckle greeblie on the back side through which the 1.5" (40mm) elastic is threaded. This greeblie features a square inset into the buckle matching the helmet color. Goggles are worn just above the brim of the helmet. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Serrated 1" (25mm) slide buckles on each side of the goggles through which the 1" (25mm) elastic is threaded. Goggle straps are approximately 1" (25mm) and 1.5" (40mm). 1” (25mm) webbing should be used to attach serrated buckle to goggles. Goggles and strap are permanently mounted to the helmet. Goggle strap has the Telemetry Unit mounted directly to it on the right side of the helmet. -
the darker green shade is what we have been using.
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Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
we have discussed the helmet interior extensively and know that there are two linings, one webbing and one foam around the perimeter for the guys taking the falls. l Helmet proposal V.1.4.1 Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet has a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. The strap has a snap connecting to a shorter segment mounted to the left side of the helmet. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a 3 inch (76.5mm) web suspension with foam around the perimeter. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. The chin cup is similar to a Rawlings athletic chin cup. -
ollive green is a technical term more than a color. Rememeber on the H harness the back is not straight up and down, it angles so that the strap follows the contour of your shoulder. The backside narrows towards the pistol belt.
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There is an old tutorial out there thats been around longer than I have. These are not the easiest thing to make, and they take practice to look right. Mine is old and has no interior interfacing so its floppy as hell. Interfacing inside makes it stand up correctly. I have never had success with removing color and dying. You would want to use a color remover , not bleach. Bleach damages the fibers. Put the two side by side in the sun and post a pic and let us see what you have.
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Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
reminds me of whats in old snakebite kits. Lets wrap this up and move on. Helmet proposal V.1.4 (FINAL) Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet has a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a 3 inch (76.5mm) web suspension with foam around the perimeter. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. The chin cup is similar to a Rawlings athletic chin cup. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
I see it, not sure that I want to write that into the CRL tho. Ive seen times where a GML will reject based on the smallest detail, and I dont want to create that avenue. If a person wants to add that based on the evidence they can Helmet proposal V.1.4 Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet may feature has a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats. layered foam lining the inside. 3 inch (76.5mm) web suspension with foam around the perimeter. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. The chin cup is similar to a Rawlings athletic chin cup. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Gentlemen, while I do appreciate the candor and insight, lets steer back to our Helmet and complete that before moving on. Weve already come this far on basically re writing this helmet, Id like to finish it before we do anything else. -
Question on E-10 Sling
Blackwatch replied to Wasrovv Slociw's topic in Imperial Army Trooper - Andor
In the 80s my M16 had the cheapest nylon sling ever. I didnt like it, and other rifles I had had much better slings. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Ok, so lets take a look at this. its not a big change for L2. Im going to write this as "similar to" because the real chin cups were casts, which MIGHT have come from a Rawlings cup. Helmet proposal V.1.4 Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet may feature has a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats. layered foam lining the inside. 3 inch (76.5mm) web suspension with foam around the perimeter. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. The chin cup is similar to a Rawlings athletic chin cup. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
I see what you mean, the goggle strap is literally flipped inside out from how i was mounted to the mudtrooper. So, originally I saw the X stras across the top of the helmet as some sort of webbing, that was my initial call. Are you seeing foam all the way around the perimiter? I see what looks like a wedge inside near the ears to help hold it stable without wobbling, if that's actually what Im interpreting. Im not following you on the Yugo pack, but I do agree that the straps mount to the screws holding the ear disks in place, all of my open face helmets of the type are made that way. The lenses are tinted for the Rixx road security troopers, and it appears to be a uniform green tint. Thats no problem to add. -
There should be no zippers as depicted in the CRL photos. The flaps go over the top, and velcro is allowed. If they come with straps, tidy those up before submission photos. Im using these https://www.amazon.com/CONDOR-Handcuff-Pouch-Navy-MA47-006/dp/B07QNM9F5F/ref=sr_1_10?adgrpid=1337007479332678&hvadid=83563261920483&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=51299&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83563838299577%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=7665_13584010&keywords=molle+handcuff+pouches&qid=1683232379&sr=8-10
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Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
On first inspection it looked like web strapping going across the top and sides, but I believe you may be right, this is casting a shadow liked stacked foam with foam wedges on the sides. Ill adjust the text for the L2. Helmet proposal V.1.3 Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet may feature a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats. layered foam lining the inside. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
it could have been made up separately and screwed on later when the goggle strap was mounted underneath it, trapping it. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
we dont have a place that sells MG paints anymore, they used to be sold at Michaels but they took all the stock out. Id like to order a can next weekend and see what it looks like. For the full effect, is there anything that needs to be done to the MG Anthracite, such as a grey or black primer, to give it its full color saturation? -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
I think so since we know the stunt helmets were just cast. here we are at V 1.2 Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet may feature a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The trim on the helmet rim is a black trim added to the helmet. The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
So with that said lets try this: Helmet An open-faced, flared helmet which consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. A telemetry unit is attached to the right side of the dome and is aligned with the rim. The telemetry unit consists of a rectangle box with detailing that should match the reference image. The telemetry unit is black. The lower end of the telemetry unit sits out from the helmet to allow the goggle elastic to feed underneath. A raised lip covers the edge of the helmet rim. The lip may be either molded in place, or added as a black trim. Trim shall not exceed 3/8" (10mm" Metal/silver Imperial code disks are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt. The helmet is to be painted black to match the armor. The helmet may feature a black chin cup with grey webbing strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The helmet has a webbing style head suspension similar to work hard hats. Imperial Code Disks do not feature a notch or groove details. Goggles and strap are may be permanently mounted to the helmet, with the telemetry unit mounted directly atop the goggle strap. -
Imperial Security Trooper - Andor - CRL Discussion
Blackwatch replied to nanotek's topic in Imperial Security Trooper - Andor
Fraser as always thank you for the insight! -
pretty much, i took those off and made part of my collar extension from that. Other than that my green suit its pretty much stock.
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Questions about Hard Parts
Blackwatch replied to stormachtig's topic in Imperial Army Trooper - Andor
We have a new-to-Garrison Iden with old Jason Hill armor, actually one of his prototypes. it came with a big square of ABS to join the front and back together so she has it taped in there.