Blackwatch

I will add the text for the pill shaped indentation on top of the belt box in the final text on the first page. We would need a good, clear, cropped shot of the box with the pill indentation for the belt box. here is the proposed final text for the blaster. Please review. Once you guys give me the big thumbs up, Ill post this to the first post for Detachment and LMO review. I will change the text in this final proposal to reflect the shorter buttstock. Change Log 2.2 (FINAL) E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. The magazine is longer than Original Trilogy blasters. Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style. A sliding stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function. A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster. 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function. Grip assembly and blaster dimensions are based on an S&T Airsoft sterling. The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled. Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) 1943 model M38 Telescope. Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed. A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots. 6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug. A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug. A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. The screws do not interfere with the rail slots. A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension. If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock. The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a pill shaped greeblie having three openings fitted. Two of the holes are circular, the central is rectangular. The buttstock matches the size and shape of those seen on screen, being shorter overall than other Rogue One era buttstocks.

Thank you Justin! Much appreciated!

Justin yeah that pic with the black and white stripe on the left bell is perfect, if we can have your permission to use it for the CRL. We do Galleries here and try to get as many photos as possible for the builds. I wish the other Dets put as much effort into Gallery view as we do for each costume type. Fraser that pill shaped indentation is at the backside box, top , correct?

Jason thanks for the word on the TPU ive never tried it but now I have a DD and want to try to get my head wrapped out printing with a rubber band. looks bloody awful to have to print. How on earth do you get rid of the layer lines? Id love a link to your files for that when I get ready to print it. You think that buttstock file may be some kind of door jamb receiver? https://tinyurl.com/door-jamb-reciever proposed text for butt stock reciever, L2 The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a pill shaped greeblie having three openings fitted. Two of the holes are circular, the central is rectangular.

these really help especially for those making their own.

ok great thank you.

These pics look really good to me. For our galleries we go all out, and have several views. Could you get us a view of the top of the back box showing the layout of the hose connectors where they are located on top of the box? Im going to get the boss back into the topic to look at the images as well. Thanks man!

are we sure that helmet greeblie is correct?

I cant seem to find the seller on etsy, what is the shop name?

I just looked at the oxprops listing, that's likely what I would go with, I can modify or move anything that needs to be moved. Great thing about being a model builder, these are all just big models.

I believe its vacuumformd plastic like the other kits, but I may be wrong.

Ok thank you Shayan, we still need pics from our builders, but Id love for the LMO to look at what we have.

ok, thanks Ill make that change. E 10.5 Blaster Change Log 2.1.1 E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. The magazine is longer than Original Trilogy blasters. Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style. A sliding stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function. A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster. 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function. The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled. Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) 1943 model M38 Telescope. Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed. A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots. 6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug. A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug. A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. The screws do not interfere with the rail slots. A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension. If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock. The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a small rectangular greeblie fitted.

With printing you can ( I mean me, as a printer) scale and size any STL or OBJ file to any size/ dimension needed. Thats one of the things printing excels at. When Specialists applications are received we routinely ask for the item to be photographed with a ruler for the application, to confirm that it meets the L2 spec. I had to buy new parts for my own Specialist approval because what I was approved with for Basic did not meet L2. How do we look on the Blaster, I would like to get this wrapped up so we can get it to the LMO.

We are writing the boxes to the same set of standards written for the rest of the CRLs in the Detachment. Also note the use of the word approximately in each of the text descriptions. This will all go to LMO review, and likely kicked back at least once by the LMO based on my experience writing CRLs. If the boxes are smaller than the R1 boxes, then we need to write them as being smaller. If not, then there is no reason to write any of the size description for L2 , and all boxes will just be L1. I can write it as a maximum, saying something like "boxes shall not exceed X Y Z" L2 is a Specialist, and goes through a separate approval process which meets a different, tighter standard.

Im back, there are times where Im not able to get to a computer for a day or two. This weekend was INSANE, I got homer from work past midnight on Sunday. I was technically off this weekend. We do not have an L3 since so much of our Detachment historically was based in comic books and low resolution game graphics. Our Specialist program is built to an L2 standard. Until the most recent movies, we as a Detachment had no "screen used". Even now most of our development is game stuff. Several Garrisons around the world do not have blasters. The rest of the costume would be judged accordingly. The Specialist applicant need only state that blasters are not allowed per National law. Right now the Engineer does not have, or carry, a blaster, so when I became the CRL model I just photographed the costume parts. That was some VERY low resolution comic art to work from. Im personally not so concerned with belt box sizes as long as we have a guideline. I can add a text line with suggested sizes based on the discussion above and that will be L2 requirement stuff. When I was writing the Del Meeko CRL we got down to splitting millimeters into tenths of a MM for L2 based on game mechanics. I do not want to revisit that. The various vendors are going to supply what they supply, and those of us 3d printing will print at the printed size. Adding a suggested size requirement text will be in line with all other CRLs developed with L2 standards for the Detachment. I have updated the text for the belt boxes and for the back of the main box with its step , that is in the very first post of this topic. On the blaster Im going to take the suggestion for text revision and work it into this update: E 10.5 Blaster Change Log 2.1 E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. The magazine is longer than Original Trilogy blasters. Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style. A sliding stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function. A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster. 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function. Grip assembly and blaster dimensions are based on an S&T Airsoft sterling. The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled. Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) 1943 model M38 Telescope. Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed. A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots. 6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug. A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug. A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. The screws do not interfere with the rail slots. A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension. If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock. The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a small rectangular greeblie fitted.

Im back to the forum after a few days, and we have two different things to consider. I do not want to jump all over, so we will address the blaster, then move to re-address the back armor since that was finalized weeks ago. We only recognize L2 for Specialist, not L3 so ill be rewriting some of the proposal to fit L2. Print lines shall always be sanded off for approval, so Im moving that to L1. So, for the blaster, I want to address that first, and get that totally 100% locked into place before we go on to anything else. E 10.5 Blaster Change Log 2.0 E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. The magazine is longer than Original Trilogy blasters. Power Cylinders shall be mounted on top of the magazine well. R1 style power cylinders are preferred over ANH style. A sliding stock is mounted on the endcap of the Blaster. The retractable feature need not function. A Sling may be attached on one or two points of the Blaster. 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Blaster shall be based on a real or replica S&T Sterling L2A1 AEG Airsoft Gun. (Folding Stock does not need to function) Grip assembly and blaster dimensions are based on an S&T Airsoft sterling. If an Airsoft Sterling is used, it must not function. The recessed strip behind the bolt may be hollow, filled or partially filled. Scope shall be a real or replica M.H.R. (Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Co.) 1943 model M38 Telescope. Counter shall be a real or replica Hengstler 400 Series counter with small eagle logo. Large eagle logo is not allowed. A grille shaped detail piece is attached on top of the Magazine. It features 8 slots. 6 rows of T-Tracks cover the Sterling receiver holes except for the lower left row with the bayonet lug. A sling swivel may be fitted near the muzzle, on the same lower left row as the bayonet lug. A 3-Slot Picatinny rail is fitted on the row above the bayonet lug. The rail is affixed with two screws. The screws do not interfere with the rail slots. A sling swivel is fitted underneath the stock extension. If a sling is attached, it is made of webbing and uses snap hook buckles. The sling is attached to the swivel underneath the stock. The stock is modelled after a 416C pattern. The buttplate on the stock may not be ribbed and has a small rectangular greeblie fitted.

Thanks for posting this. Im real curious about the strapping and how it works. I am printing my own armor to fit me, there is no way Kevins kit will fit. And of course since Im printing everything, there are no instructions.

Ok, for a guy that only knows E11s, this is a lot for my old, tired brain to absorb, and Im jumping back and forth across four tabs trying to keep all this straight. I admit, I do now know anything about this blaster and this is a lot to take in. We can look at the mudtrooper later, we clearly did not know this when we wrote the mudtrooper CRL. Im going to start over on this description, I feel we have enough things here. This is going to be almost a full rewrite. I have a question regarding the left side sling hook. Clearly what we see on Aldhani is a singlepoint hook on the buttstock, keeping with the modern trend of a easily discarded empty weapon to go to your secondary. Going through @BigJasoni photos I dont see one on the left side except on the model. We need to confirm its is or is not in place on the stock on Aldhani, however Im not seeing it. Im going to rewrite this offline and post it later since this will pretty much be starting over. Right now my brain is cramping from the now 9 tabs I have open going back and forth looking at all this. Can somone summarize what NEEDS to be in there. Im getting lost and confused in the discussion of the buttstock , whether its a 416 (or not) , Whether or not a 1913 is used (or not) and all the other points that have been made here? Im not a gun guy or an airsoft guy, so all this is just numbers to be but I need something I can write and keep in line.

Jason this is the best view of this Ive seen. The on screen images arent giving us that much detail. Ok. let me rewrite the blaster proposal and see where we are. Im looking forward to seeing this on the 'verse. Ive got four printers that are just hungry for another blaster. Change log 1.3 E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. Magazine is extended length. Magazine may be fitted with red lights which illuminate through the grill. There is a detailed grille fixture on the top of the magazine running the length of the magazine. It features 8 slots. Power cylinder has 2 outer cylinders and 2 smaller central cylinders. There is a short accessory mount rail on the left side of the blaster in front of the power cylinders. It features 4 segments. Scope rail is fitted on a rear block while the front of the rail is angled to join the top of the barrel. Scope is a M1938 1943 version. Henglster has accurate eagle logo seen on Rogue One E-11 varians. The eagle logo should fit between the recessed screw holes above and below it. The eagle logo should the the more "blocky" style than the more art-deco style. A folding collapsing stock is in place. The proper type stock is from a Heckler Koch 416. A webbing sling attached to the rear stock with snap hook buckles is permitted. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Base is based on S&T Airsoft sterling with closed working parts (no spring). Screws used are M4 x 25mm Allen screw/bolts and sunken Allen screws for power cylinders. Web sling is fitted with 1" (25mm) 316 stainless steel marine webbing snap hooks.

Are we agreed on the blaster text? we need to clear and lock that. Also, lets start new topics for WIPS, this is for the CRL discussion, we want to keep it limited to discussing the CRL.

Very good sir!

I trust starwars.com more than the wiki. I will update the blaster description.

Is this a resource we trust, as canon? My only issue with any wiki is that its crowd edited. Lets have a look at this: Blaster Change Log 1.2.1 E-10.5 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, cast, 3D print or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. Magazine is extended length. Magazine may be fitted with red lights which illuminate through the grill. Power cylinder is larger with 2 outer cylinders and 2 smaller central cylinders. There is a short accessory mount rail on the left side of the blaster in front of the power cylinders. Scope rail is fitted on a rear block while the front of the rail is angled to join the top of the barrel. Scope is a M1938 1943 version. A folding stock is in place. A webbing sling attached to the rear stock with snap hook buckles is permitted. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Base is based on S&T Airsoft sterling with closed working parts (no spring). Screws used are M4 x 25mm Allen screw/bolts and sunken Allen screws for power cylinders. Web sling is fitted with 1" (25mm) 316 stainless steel marine webbing snap hooks.

If its in the photos of the uniforms were writing the CRLs for, it needs to be included, even if it is an option. If it isnt, we will be right back here in 3 or four months with someone asking why it wasnt covered in the first place, and wanting to know the reason we decided to ignore it. Same goes for things like the chincups, which were breaking and falling off on-set.