Blackwatch

I am 5'10" tall and my boots are 16" tall, and pretty much stop where these boots stop. I use motorcycle boots because of my monster size 14 EEE asskickers.

Next I would like to tackle both the holster and the boots. If I find that both start to get technical, I will split the discussion. Original Text:' Change Holster The holster is made of black leather or leather-like material and be worn on the left side and affixed via two black loops over the belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Holster is worn empty Boots Calf high leather or leather-like material. Similar design to German jack boots or motorcycle riding boots. Boots have a flap with adjustment strap that starts at the middle back of the boot and wraps around to the outfacing sides. Adjustment strap has a square, silver adjustment buckle. Heels are made of rubber or similar material and may have tread or no tread. Boots may contain zipper closure but must be concealed with boot material as to not be visible. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Jackboots are not accurate, the boots are custom made according to the specific design seen in references. + Boots are not shiny, they are close to a matte render Text updates: Original Text in whiteI Updated ext in Green New text in Orange. CHANGE LOG 1 Holster The holster is made of black leather or leather-like material and be worn on the left side and affixed via two black loops over the Officer style belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Holster is worn empty. Boots Calf high leather or leather-like material. Similar design to German jack boots or motorcycle riding boots. Boots have a flap with adjustment strap that starts at the middle back of the boot and wraps around to the outfacing sides. Adjustment strap has a square, silver adjustment buckle. Heels are made of rubber or similar material and may have tread or no tread. Boots may contain zipper closure but must be concealed with boot material as to not be visible. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Jackboots are not accurate, the boots are custom made according to the specific design seen in references. + Boots are not shiny, they are close to a matte render

finalized text with all requested changes made. Please give it a look over and comment. Change Log 1.2 (FINAL TEXT) Thermal Detonator Attached to the back of the belt is a rectangular gloss black Thermal Detonator with a black corrugated hose. The ends of the hose is covered by gloss black end caps. The Thermal detonator fits between the two back belt pouches. There are two silver detail greeblies on the central box. These details consist of a dome-shaped greeblie on the left side of the box and rectangular greeblie with various designs on the right side of the box. For basic (Level 1) approval a gloss black Shadow Scout style Thermal Detonator with standard greeblies is acceptable, as long as the greeblies are painted silver. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. The detonator consists of a boxy central structure containing a ribbed hose, and end caps which are "closed" where the tube enters the end cap. The detonator box features a round dome-shaped greeblie approximately 5/8" (15.8mm) on the left side and a 3/4" x 1.5" (19mm x 32.7 mm ) rectangular greeblie featuring various designs as seen in the reference images. The standard shadow scout thermal detonator is not accurate and is not to be used for Level 2 approval.

Change Log 1.1 Thermal Detonator Attached to the back of the belt is a rectangular gloss black Thermal Detonator with a black corrugated hose. The end of the hose is covered by gloss black end caps. Thermal Detonator is gloss black in color. There are two silver detail greeblies on the central box. These details consist of a dome-shaped greeblie on the left side of the box and rectangular greeblie with various designs on the right side of the box. Standard Shadow Scout style greeblies are acceptable for L1 approval. For basic (Level 1) approval a gloss black Shadow Scout style Thermal Detonator is acceptable, as long as the greeblies are painted silver. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. The detonator consists of a boxy central structure containing a ribbed hose, and end caps which are "closed" where the tube enters the end cap. The detonator box features a round dome-shaped greeblie approximately 5/8" (15.8mm) on the left side and a 3/4" x 1.5" (19mm x 32.7 mm ) rectangular greeblie featuring various designs as seen in the reference images. The standard shadow scout thermal detonator is not accurate and is not to be used for Level 2 approval. + Biker Scout TD is NOT accurate, the one used here is smaller.

when we wrote it, it all appeared black. I saw nowthing that looked metallic. I think it would be easy enough to add "black or dark, weathered metallic grey. Weathering and appearance must be consistent".

guys I've had my hands in other piles lately so I'm just really getting to this. Here are things I noted: Is this a modified real world glove? do we know the glove it was modified from? I know there's differences between US and Commonwealth English, my only concern is this line " Gloves are all black consisting " to my old American brain the word "of" would need to be added to the line to read "Gloves are all black consisting of:" I would like to replace all "(as shown) " in the descriptions with "(See gallery image)" since we will have all the photos in the costume gallery. Standardize all the measurments to IN(mm) in keeping with the other CRLs.

one final pass we will need to double check punctuation and make sure all measurements are updated to the IN(mm) format 1" to form a rectangular section

ive looked it over, just need to remove extra bullet points, put the text measurements into the standardized format, and double check punctuation.

weve got a lot of measurements in Del but since it has to be specific to the wearer, we have a base measurement as well as L2 level "must be proportional to the wearer:. If some one is going to make a kit of this, then lthe belt should, -should I say- be the right size for the kit, but that's not always the case. Once we get the text the way we want it we need to clean up and standardize the measurements IN (mm).

Ready to do the next section, the Thermal Detonator. The detonator is quite more detailed than this, so I would like to go over this as a single section. Thermal Detonator - The thermal detonator is attached to the center of the back of the belt. - Thermal detonator is gloss black in color - Silver button details are present on the central box. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer + Biker Scout TD is NOT accurate, the one used here is smaller. Change Log 1.0 Thermal Detonator The thermal detonator is attached to the center of the back of the belt and fits between the scout style pouches. Thermal detonator is gloss black in color. The detonator consists of a boxy central structure containing a ribbed hose, and end caps which are "closed" where the tube enters the end cap. There are two silver details on the central box. These details consist of a greeblie on the right side of the box, and a dome shaped greeblie on the left side of the box. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. The standard shadow scout thermal detonator is not accurate and is not to be used. + Biker Scout TD is NOT accurate, the one used here is smaller.

Ok then, I guesss we are ready to lock it down. Let move on to the next section.

Change Log 1.1 (FINAL) Scout Style Pouches Two "scout" style pouches are made of black matte canvas or canvas-like material. The "scout" style pouches are filled to appear full and worn at the back of the belt. The pouches will leave sufficient room for the Thermal Detonator mounted between them. Pouches may be hung from the tactical vest waist strap, or from the over-belt strap, at the wearers choice. Pouches are a maximum of 6 inches tall, 5 inches wide and 2 inches (152 mm tall0 x 127mm wide and 50.8mm deep). The lower edge of the flap will not be wider than 2 1/2" (63.5mm). Pouches are proportional to the size of the wearer and match in-game references. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Scout style pouches match in game references. Bottom edge of the pouch flap is less than half the overall width of the pouch. Pouch outer flap has a stitch set back 5/16" (8mm) from the edge.

alight then, Ill make that change and update the CL for the scout pouch. Change Log 1.0 Scout Style Pouches Two "scout" style pouches are made of black matte canvas or canvas like material The "scout" style pouches which are filled to appear full, and worn at the back of the belt. The pouches will leave sufficient room for the Thermal Detonator mounted between them. Pouches are a maximum of 6 inches tall, 5 inches wide and 2 inches (152 mm tall0 x 127mm wide and 50.8mm deep). The lower edge of the flap will not be wider than 2 1/2" (63.5mm). Pouches are proportional to the size of the wearer and match in-game references. Pouches may be hung from the tactical vest waist strap, or from the over-belt strap, at the wearers choice. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Scout style pouches match in game references. Pouches are mounted to the tactical vest waist strap. Bottom edge of the pouch flap is less than half the overall width of the pouch. Pouch outer flap has a stitch set back 5/16" (8mm) from the edge.

Ok, so would it be fair to say we are happy with the Change Log 1.1 and the pouch proposal? lock those down and move on?

Scout Style pouches I would like to split out the Scout style pouches as a separate piece because I believe leaving it as a single line item will add confusion. I believe it should have its own sub section. PROPOSAL: Scout Style Pouches Two "scout" style pouches are made of black matte canvas or canvas like material The "scout" style pouches which are filled to appear full, and worn at the back of the belt. The pouches will leave sufficient room for the Thermal Detonator mounted between them. Pouches are proportional to the size of the wearer and match in-game references. Pouches may be hung from the tactical vest waist strap, or from the over-belt strap, at the wearers choice. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Scout style pouches match in game references. Pouches are mounted to the tactical vest waist strap. Bottom edge of the pouch flap is less than half the overall width of the pouch. Pouch outer flap has a stitch set back 5/16" (8mm) from the edge.

yeah we are doing a heavy rewrite on the Army trooper. The correct boots are still out there, the commuter IIs. IMO even 9" shaft motorcycle boots painted green will look that way for L1. Doing the same with the sapper/ Engineer.

I just got a phone call to go to a contract job in Mobile. I will return to this discussion tomorrow.

Im glad you pulled those shots. I had that suspicion and you confirmed it. if it was ME building it I would put it on with a Chicago screw (blind screw) on the Officer belt with the overbelt hiding that. It still passes under the officer belt and terminates just like the source graphic. The game creators honestly made our jobs SO MUCH EASIER than we had it just a few years ago trying to figure out game bits, but "magic" doesn't help with mounting. I agree with both of you that the scout pouches are hung from the chest rig back strap. That said, if we go weaerers option, we need to define an L2, and further define for specialist. I would like to write it that for L2 it is hung from the leather tac vest strap. which will also go for Specialist applicants.

I remember a bit of discussion we had doing the CRL work, the helmet is most commonly seen but a few troopers do wear the hat. Were changing parts of the CRL regarding updating the boots and the addition of the TK belt. We can add this to the CRL change topic discussion which is still open.

Over in the Del Meeko thread we are using the term "invisible fastener" and recommending heavy duty magnets. Not the light duty Walmart craft stuff. I order 1.25" ring magnets for connecting tie pilot hoses to chestboxes and I use them for holding other things to my various uniforms. Its an option.

Moving onward, this is the discussion for the Over belt part of the rig. Over Belt - The belt is made of gloss black plastic material and fastens at the back of the waist with a textile material (webbing). + The over belt consist of "5 boxes belt" attached with a leather stip thiner than the under belt. + "5 boxes belt" is painted glossy black - Sits on top of the under belt with the top third or so of the under belt buckle showing - Five gloss black boxes made of ABS or similar plastic are attached to a 1.5" strip, and both are attached to the base belt -> wrong / unclear + "5 boxes belt" is a one piece construction in resin / ABS / similar plastic - There are special-shaped boxes on left and right which are horizontal in position as seen in reference photo. - 8 rivets in total are present with 2 rivets mounted vertically on the left and right of the special shaped boxes. - Hanging from the right side of the belt is a hip box made out of hard material. This is connected to the belt by a black leather or leather like straps. - Contains quick release buckles on the front and back. - Two black "scout" pouches are filled and worn at the back of the belt + they leave room for the thermal detonator in the middle. - Belt closes in back behind the thermal detonator. + right side of the wearer, under 5 boxes belt right edge (will post 3d model view under Ref #7) - Belt and components may be lightly weathered silver. - The webbing is made of leather or leather-like material. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + 5 boxes belt is made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. Regular Scout Trooper belt is not accurate, proportions are too big and the design is not accurate. + Too visible weathering on the "5 boxes belt" is not accurate, must be quite discreet Removals in red strikethrough Additions in Orange. Text changes are in green. Change Log 1 Over Belt The over belt consist of 5 gloss black boxes made of ABS or similar plastic , mounted to a leather or leather like waist strap which closes under the thermal detonator. The waist strap is approximately 1.5" (40mm) wide. The over belt is worn around the under belt, so that the top third of the under belt shows above the overbelt. There are special-shaped boxes on left and right of the 3 central boxes which are horizontal in position as seen in reference photos. A total of 8 rivets are present with 2 rivets mounted vertically on the left and right at the edge of the special-shaped boxes. Hanging from the right side of the belt is a hip box made out of hard material. This is connected to the belt by 1.5" (40mm) wide black leather or leather like straps. The strap is and as long as necessary to allow the box to hang on the wearers right hip. The strap is attached to the front of the overbelt through a slot on the right side of the central box. The back end of the strap goes behind the underbelt, to the left side of the thermal detonator. The hip box strap has 1.5" (40mm) quick release buckles on the front and back. Each buckle is attached at the mid point of the strap. Two black canvas "scout" pouches are filled and worn at the back of the belt leaving sufficient room for the thermal detonator mounted between them. - Belt closes in back behind the thermal detonator. + right side of the wearer, under 5 boxes belt right edge (will post 3d model view under Ref #7) - Belt and components may be lightly weathered silver. - The webbing is made of leather or leather-like material. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + 5 boxes belt i The rigid front portion of the outer belt is made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. The over belt boxes may be lightly stained or weathered. Silver is not permitted.

Change Log 1.1 (FINAL TEXT) Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from leather or a leather-like material. A very slight texture is acceptable. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops or extra holes on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the left side of the buckle. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of non-textured leather. Two parallel grooves run the length of the belt 1/8" (3.1mm) in from edge. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer 1" (25mm) from the buckle edge. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.

The next item for discussion will be the under belt. This is a typical Officer/Crewman style belt, and ROTJ style grooves are permitted. Removals in red strikethrough Additions in orange. Text changes in green. Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve. + 2 carved lines -> ROTJ officer belt Change Log 1.0 Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve. There are 2 grooves 1/8" (3.17mm ) from the edge running the length of the belt.

Shoulder Ammo Pouch Change Log (FINAL) Shoulder Ammo Pouch There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, or canvas-like material. Closure straps are made of black leather or leather-like material. There is a small pouch on the bottom of the pouch at the right side. Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Attachment is not seen. No straps are visible. Magnets or other source of firm mounting is advised. Oiler pouch is attached to the bottom right side of the right pouch.

Shoulder Ammo Pouch Change Log 1.1 Shoulder Ammo Pouch There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, leather or leather-like or canvas-like material. Closure straps are made of black leather or leather-like material. Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Attachment is not seen. No straps are visible. Magnets or other source of firm mounting is advised.