Blackwatch

Just re read the last two pages to make sure Im cought up. I agree with JoeShoe, I was very disappointed In how little screen time they got.

same, ive had some really rocky helmet transactions especially one of of Columbia that went south . I wasn't aware SGB was even making/selling anymore, last I heard *years ago* he was done selling to Legion members because of his recast accusations.

im amazed. weve gone from a low resolution idea of what it looks like to this nice, smooth badass looking armor. Honestly I cant wait to see plastic or fiberglass or whatever it will be finalized in take shape. I have no idea how you are doing what you are doing---im a technodork---but I appreciate all of it.

HIi there~ When I got mine I bought everything online. I do not have a local surplus store, so it all came from the web. Here is the purchase list I puot together for everything. Note that we ARE changing the boot requirement, and the boots for engineers will be short black boots, not the taller Jackboots.

Ok so here is the change log on the boot and belt options, as written for the I A Engineer and suitably altered here. Boots Below the calf black or green leather or leather like material. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Boot color is green. Pants legs shall be tucked into boots and fluffed to give appearance of original source art./w Weathering of boots is encouraged. TK Ammo Belt Belt face is made of white plastic (TK ammo belt). The soft belt proper is made of canvas, or material with a canvas covering. Size must be 2.75” (70 mm) to 3.25”(83 mm) wide and not wider than the plastic portion of the belt. The color is be white to off-white. The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the front plastic belt (ammo belt) via white straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt. Belt may be worn to match reference art, above or below the pistol belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): ROTJ style TK ammo belt. No buttons are present on belt. Drop boxes shall be ANH Stormtrooper size, not ROTJ stormtrooper size. Weathering of ammo belt is encouraged.

Ok everybody Im back on the job again and Im woking 16 hour shifts, so that's just killing any hint of free time. That helmet issome aberration that the artist made up. We don't have a maker/ helmet for it to be included in the CRL, unless we get someone to make this thing and we do not have a rear view of it so we don't know what it looks like. Moving on: Change Log 1.1 Boots Below the calf black leather or leather like material. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Pants legs shall be tucked into boots and fluffed to give appearance of original source art. Weathering of boots is encouraged. TK Ammo Belt Belt face is made of white plastic (TK ammo belt). The soft belt proper is made of canvas, or material with a canvas covering. Size must be 2.75” (70 mm) to 3.25”(83 mm) wide and not wider than the plastic portion of the belt. The color is be white to off-white. The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the front plastic belt (ammo belt) via white straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): ROTJ style TK ammo belt. No buttons are present on belt. Drop boxes shall be ANH Stormtrooper size, not ROTJ stormtrooper size.

CHANGE LOG 1 .3 Removals in red strikethrough Additions in dark orange Flight suit - One-piece flight suit is made out of Nomex, rip-stop nylon + canvas or similar heavy material. - The front zipper is covered by a 2-inch-wide piece of leather or leather-like material with vertical lines that attaches with Velcro over the zipper. - Approximately 1.5" (38.1mm) tall mandarin collar with a chevron shaped, left-over-right Velcro closure. A 2.5-inch red embroidered or PVC Inferno Squad emblem, on a black background, is present on both shoulders. - The shoulders of the suit are slightly padded. - On the left forearm there is a compad pocket. Size might vary to match specific compad. +compad pocket spot is high enough on the forearm so the glove can't hide the compad *New Text* There is a commpad pocket that properly fits the commpad size, placed above the glove so that the pocket is not hidden. - On the left bicep, below the cog emblem, there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves. No code cylinders are present. - There is a piece of nylon strapping sewn below the pen sleeve openings and is the same length as the top of the pocket. - The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves. - The right sleeve has a cargo pocket below the cog emblem. - The pocket has a chevron flap. - There are two large chest pockets and two large front pockets with no zippers or flaps are present below the belt. - There are two leg pockets with chevron flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket, are present. - There are no leg pockets below the knees. - There are two red stripes that run up the right side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the right leg and continues up to the right armpit. The second begins at the right wrist and stops at the bottom of the arm pocket. The stripe then continues above the arm pocket, behind the patch emblem to the shoulder seam. - There are two black stripes that run up the left side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the left leg and continues up to the left armpit. The second begins at the left wrist and stops at the bottom of the compad pocket. The stripe then continues above the compad pocket up to the bottom edge of the pen sleeves then continues above the pen sleeves, behind the patch emblem to the shoulder seam. - There are two black stripes that run up the left side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the left leg and continues up to the left armpit. The second begins at the left wrist and stops at the bottom of the compad pocket. The stripe then continues above the compad pocket up to the bottom edge of the pen sleeves then continues above the pen sleeves, behind the patch emblem and up over the shoulder ending at the bottom of the collar. - A piece of leather or leather-like material is sewn below the pen sleeve openings and is the same length as the top of the pocket. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Patches are EMBROIDERED vinyl on textile with no edge border. If twill is used for the patch material the fabric texture will be vertically oriented. + Textured Rip stop / canvas is most accurate as it is a thick materials with a "solid" structure ; "loose" / soft / light material is not accurate.

Im sticking to green. its how I have always interpreted it and its how many of us have already built our rigs. The sappers boots in the panel have no green whatsoever, its brown. Very close to raw umber. prior to the raid their boots were darker, this brown would reflect the accumulation of dirt in the field which happens very quickly when you are on the move. The cleanest of the Army troops have a somehwat lighter green than the coverall. I still argue this is artistic interpretation to show they are a different material, and covered with various shades of dust. The Army troopers gloves are green a half shade lighter than their coveralls. If we make everyone black across the board, then it will not match the source art. Id go so far as to allow OLIVE DRAB which is a greenish brown, for the boots, however OLIVE DRAB is not a set color, and I have probably 20 different shades of it on hand. Ill throw this into the monkeyworks. These are my current Air Force issue boots. They are SERGE GREEN. They appear brown in this picture.

at the time of the discussion originally we decided not to. Officer tunic and different details It looks like a poorly drawn helmet with different details than the sapper. if people want a helmet with the black, they can build the sapper.

Theres a second decorative stitch line going up the side. Im seeing that on a lot of boots. Also check out motorcycle boots with short shaft (or tall and just cut it off). If you take a look at th eCRL proposals that are being edited now ( I just finished both types a few minutes ago) Im rewriting for a below the calf boot. 8-9" just like you found here. Check your thrift stores, yiou may find a cheap pair of moto boots with round toes without the decorative stitch line. You're close. Thats for sure.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations on Approval! Youre in the Army now!

@Raider last question first, yes the TK belt is will be applied to the Engineer and that is being discussed in this topic. My call is that the boots are black. The empires boots tend to run black, white or red with green for the army trooper being our exception. None of our CRls tell us how the legs are tucked into the boot top. That is the new term we will use going forward..."tucked". That is different than bloused, and that term will no longer be used. I will suit up Sunday and get new photos for the Engineer using the black Commuter iI boots I have, so we have all fresh images of the Engineer for front and back shots. This will remove the tall Jackboot from the CRL, and we will go forward using a short boot. Regular cheap motorcylce boots with 8-9" shafts can be used. Ive accidentally bought then that were far too short for Jackboot type use, so I know they are out there. PROPOSED TEXT FOR BOOTS Changes: Removals in red strikethough Additions/ text changes in emerald. Boots Calf High Below the Calf black leather or leather like material. Jackboot style is acceptable, see gallery. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1". This need not be functional. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): 8-9" tall olive tone boot. Free of laces, decorative sticking, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boots are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. Pants legs shall be tucked into boots and fluffed to give appearance of original source art. Weathering of the boots is encouraged.

in addition to the belts, we are considering changes to the boots to be more consistent with the short boot images of the art. There are short boots out there, available, and even a cheap pair of round toe motorcycle boots could be cut down to give this appearance. Current text in white, proposed removals in red strikethrough proposed addititions/ changes in Emerald Boots Calf High Below the Calf black leather or leather like material. Jackboot style is acceptable, see gallery. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1". This need not be functional. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Free of laces, decorative sticking, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boots are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. Pants legs shall be tucked into boots and fluffed to give appearance of original source art. weathering of boots is encouraged.

Matt its the tk belt that does not have the square covers, and its dirty.

yep, ignore all gold references. that's metallic grey. my GO TO Metallic Grey is Tamiya metallic Grey XF-56 . You can get it in hobby shops. https://www.ebay.com/itm/202800092834

Hello Robyn and welcome! we are glad to have you here with us. They take a bit of looking but they are definitely out there. Remember you want smooth, some of the commuters out there have decorative stitching which is wrong. also some have a STOPID price online. Don't pay that. I think I paid like 50 shipped for mine and I have two pair one black one green. I got mine on Ebay, size 14 E. The do go smaller abd at leat in my case the size runs half a size large, maybe due to the fleece lining. . Currently we are discussing boot length, and changes to the CRL which may lead to the removal of the jackboot as the primarly level 1 boot. We hope to have those changes made soon. this is what I have https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-new-Itasca-ITASCA-COMMUTER-FLEECE-LINIG-MENS-WINTER-BOOTS/401960432815?hash=item5d96b574af:m:mCJWP8Dkwv4C3IisxLZ2UQw

Original Ref pics Lets go back to the original source art, and compare both the Imperial Officers, which we know wear black boots, and Lt. Sunber, a Trooper Officer. Heres the sapper pic for comparison, and they are filthy with the dirt carried up onto their pants legs. Probably black to start with, and just plain muddy sandy and dirty. Like me in the field after a week. Got chewed out by my Company CO for having filthy boots--he was sending me to Stinger school that afternoon. It was like day 6 in Graf after it rained. Neal is right, its artistic interpretation. OIriginal reference images to me, its the same basic tone as the overall uniform green, with dirt. I can also make the case for dusty black boots. Also a point is brought up here. Tucked Vs Bloused. Tucked and tight. Bloused at the top of the boot. Crammed into the top of the boot. I cant see any further options, and by the appearance, it is either bloused into the boot the way I wear my boots every day at work, or crammed in like a lot of guys I work with do. SO- I feel a shorter boot like the commuter is more in line, and gives a better overall appearance than a jackboot. There ARE shorter motorcycle engineer boots, the 7-8 inch shaft boots, that are very similar. Also agree with the belt that has no buttons between boxes.

on my end none of the most recent images are showing, just link boxes that I can click to take me to your imgur site when the renders are

I like the sound of that. Im loving the look of this. Hell maybe someday I can lose enough weight to wear something this cool!

Ok guys finally getting back in after my family issues and getting back on YET ANOTHER new schedule at work. Fist, this is not a OT commpad. I used to cast and paint those, this is NOT OT. two of the buttons are different sizes, Its also worn upside down to the way OT commpads are worn. There is a color I use a lot when I paint commpads, Tamiya calls it Titanium Gold LINK TO TITANIUM GOLD PAINT its a great color and captures this base look perfectly. The part that is inside the circle is a notch that is present on commpads. the OT commpads have a somewhat different shape, and totally depending on who made/ cast/ printed it, you get different details. I always paint the raised/ stepped levels of the commpads I make two different shades so they stand out. This is just a projection from the base layer, that is the layer on top of the black layer. My commpads are 3 layers thick. they are copies of the original, now vintage "BishopX" that was cloned a thousand time. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=XG4MEAap&id=C2C2E866244C7D5ECB409DEF6C1D85C8490334D3&thid=OIP.XG4MEAapqxITvhzfNuYz2gHaFj&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.jrs501st.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f02%2f799px-Generic-commpad.jpg&exph=600&expw=799&q=commpad&simid=608037093703748676&selectedIndex=11&ajaxhist=0 anyway, other than the two oversize buttons, heres my call on colors: Base -Black Background - Dark metallic gold tone or titanium gold Top row buttons Left to right when worn Black, White, Black , red. *white and red are larger than black buttons* rectangle detail on left side above buttons -white Rectangle detail with four depressions may have red center dot. Lower row of buttons - red all colors and buttons are to be weathered and muted. EDIT: I get home Thursday Ill see if I can make up two oversize buttons and paint according to the layout I noted above.

heres an update. Tambo Navy Trooper helmet. its a BIG helmet, closely about as big as the Army helmet you have there.

hey guys, ill be watching over this much more closely now. I like the interaction Im seeing, and from working on theother side of the sandbox with low rez graphics I can completely understand the frustrations of trying to figure out lines, boxes and shadows where they may or may not exist. In the end we make it match the references we have, its all we can do.

With tabs we can make two galleries. I dont have a TK belt, not really into making this mod for my Sapper/engineer--would you be willing to take it on? We will need a CRL model for the tabbed gallery.

Best of luck on a quick approval to join the ranks of the Imperial Engineers!

i wrote the report on the intergalactic supply helmet you can read it here: https://forum.specops501st.com/topic/6958-review-intergalacic-supply-army-trooper-helmet/ Take note that is two different helmets he provides, Army Trooper and Imperial Commander/ IS. Its a small helmet. Smaller than the helmets we produced locally. It fits fairly small on me, but it is a GREAT helmet. He provided me with B grade builds for review. If you take a number of these helmets, made by different makers, you will find they are all different. Tambos helmet is bigger than InterGalactic Supplies helmet which is smaller than the helmet we produced. Throw a 3d printer and unknmown files in the mix--who knows. here's how I roll---Id take that helmet, split it in four, and shrink it. But thats me and how I do things. Ive split and enlarged helmets over the years. Fiberglass mat is your friend. Then I would correct the size of the flare to fit you properly and drop a bump cap in it for fit. Take some 10 mm tape, run it across the dome in a perfect 90* cross, and cut at the edges of the tape. then tape the whole thing back together and check fit. it will be quite a bit smaller.