Blackwatch

damn, a track! M3 or M16?

i just re reed the whole thing and was going to comment on the funkadelic bullets but you see it. Definitely agree with the pauldron+MP40 look.

Where do we currently stand on this? PM inbound.

i folded my collar under, stitched it to the same size, and stitched the collar extension on. as is, the collar when flipped up is too tall.

Mike I looked back at the CR:L and it states hair should appear short in length. When I was in the Army we wore BDU caps and ladies had to wear their hair in a bun if long, tucked at the back of the hat. Since we do not have a current CRL model, I would suggest she go ahead and do the build per the CRL. As you know, several changes may happen from the time we publish the CRL until the LMO ratifies it and approves for Legion use.

PLEASE NOTE: As written at the top of the first post, this topic is from January 2018 and is OUT OF DATE. To answer the question regarding the suit, no, it is completely different. The Army does not share components with the Navy other than the hat and in some cases boots. Here is the Imperial Army Purchase list

Troopers we have a development--the patches will be readily available soon! Stand by for verification.

since we dont currently HAVE a CRL for it, she can work towards becoming the CRL model. The crl we have in progres does suggest close cropped short hair, so take that into suggestion. I have posted a link in the Army Trooper section that has a list of the basic Army trooper items , and there are distinct differences for Sunber such as modified pouches for the binocs, and some different pouches, yet the links I have in the resource list would help source a lot of Sunbers suit.

thats what im seeing as well, to denote where the dome seperates from the lower half of the helmet.

thanks for the update and please keep us posted about your progress. Many of my own armor kits --as well as soft kits---took a long time.

and heres the rub. The upper panel has a Grey T bit shape, and the lower panel has a red t bit shape.

Are we going to create completely seperate CRLs, or tabbed variations?

the darker OD patch looks like what Kerry Rowntree did a while back. he used OD instead of the vibrant green.

comparing my own patches to the screen image things look fine. the shield is nice and vibrant and the dark green color looks correct compared to mine. is the left side bowing just a issue with that individual patch? mine curl p at the top edge until they are sewed down.

Certainly fair enough, not knowing the actual floss colors used. the WTF patches used a bright green, not quite emerald green for the sword shape and something near OD for the background. I contacted a maker last night and gave him your file, Ill see if I can dig through my wifes embrodiery flosses and come up with a similar color to the green sword. EDIT --for anyone who might want to try this on a home embroidery machine. My wife has Madera 1769 green floss and it is a shade darker than the sword on the patch. Standard black and white for the patch borders and cog, embroidered on olive green or dark olive green. the CRL just says "darker shade of green".

Ive contacted a vendor I have worked with in the past quite a bit, and he is looking them over now to determine what it will take to get them made by his maker that he gets product from.

that is super helpful. like SUPER. @Raider can we alter the text?

Thank you Anthony!!! Can we get a definition of what the colors are? I know mine I purchased from WTF original run have a bright vibrant green on a background similar to OG107 uniform sateen.

hello and welcome Joseph! A couple of things to consider: 1 your budget 2 you may continue to grow as you get older (* I sure did!) . If you are 17 and looking to build now, and join soon, ignore everything Im about to say about going up in sizes. The engineer is pretty simple, and I have an outlined resource list posted in the forum. If you have a local surplus store, a lot of this will be right in the store. Unfortunately you can't walk into any given store and find black work coveralls. I always have to mail order mine , and I have started using the Natural Workwear brand on Amazon. They are comparable to DIckies at a somewhat cheaper price. Find your best deal. Unlike other conversions you will only need one pair. USAF style flight suits with all the pockets and zippers are wrong for this suit. If you are still growing you might want to leave it a bit baggy. We have GA troopers here and they are still growing, so they use somewhat large coveralls, but not TOO large, just enough to let them grow into them. You can always refer back to my build WIP for any reference, but keep in mind I had to make a bunch of changes during the build. Most of the build is mail order, so that makes this especially easy. Here is the buy list for the Imperial Army, and fits the three established CRLs. I found most of my stuff on Ebay and Amazon. If you have a local surplus store you can probably just walk in and get it, this is pretty common stuff. This list is pretty comprehensive so you will want to poke through all of its links. Just remember everythign on the Egnineer is glorious black. Here's my coverall conversion. It was written for the blue mechanical crewman, so ignore some of the details in the photos like the point. Just follow the text. The Engineer back pockets can be used for the leg pockets. You don't need to make the whole collar conversion, you can add a tab from suit material like the arm pocket, and that has been what most people have done. Use a super sharp utility knife on the inside of the pocket bartacks. bust the bartacks loose For boots, its really up to you, but until you are ready to join, I would consider going with a low cost alternative . The CRL is written for regular jackboots, and Ebay can be a great source if you want to make the jump now. Otherwise, a black simple boot from a thrift store will work. I looked at boots at a couple of thrift stores this week: One was a pull on work type boot which might work if the wellington type top was cut off. For the pouches you can use the recommended pouches, or stick with four black , smaller, less expensive pouches for now. There are two other considerations, the hat and the patches. Currently we don't have a source for the patches, as they have sold out again. years ago a member made his own with the small size Imperial cogs you can find on Ebay, a large patch of olive fabric and two rectangles of green fabric, sewing them together to form the shape. We do need asource for the patches, that is certain. On the hat, Its up to you. There are a lot of inexpensive hats on Ebay, but they look funky. there are members in the Imperial Officer Corps forums who will make hats. Understand this is not mail order, you go on a waiting list, and the wait can and often does take several months due to the very high demand for black hats. This is by no means great, but its economical. I can tell you from personal experience the costumebase brand hat found on Ebay and Amazon is just plain BAD. Etsy seller 20eyesdesign has made a bunch of things for me over the years and I can speak to her work. it will not be the best hat you have ever seen but its affordable. Measure your head, don't guess, these are made to order and they cannot be resized. I hope this helps, good luck, and please post your progress!

we still have people coming into the program who need patches, plus people who do not necessarily post to the forums, so the need will be ongoing. I have contacted a maker I work with a lot, as well as WTF directly to inquire about restock.

i just checked and see that they are still showing out of stock. Ill talk to staff about it. I do know one of my local troopers has a friend with a home embroidery machine and he had them made on that machine locally. My wife made our sapper tabs on a piece of fabric the same way.

Several weeks ago I spoke at lenght with Jason Hill/ Intergalactic supply about his Army Trooper helmet. He agreed to provide me with a "b" pull so that I may evaluate it for use here. Because this was for my evaluation, he did not include the full greeblie kit, trim, elastic or goggles, but he did include a wonderfully molded chin cup. In addition to the Army "b" pull Jason included an "A" pull of the standard Officer/ AT ST trooper helmet with a chin cup. While greeblies nor elastic were included, this will not affect the review. The Army trooper helmet is usable for both the Imperial Army Trooper IAT and the Sapper. First Pass: On fist pass out of the box, I like what I see. Both helmets were assembled, well trimmed, well glued and "present" well. The molds are crisp, and the trimming is outstanding. ( I have always trimmed my own plastic). The Imperial Commander/ ATST helmet is one inch wider than the Army helmet, and has the necessary notches for the spine rod. The Army helmet has a smooth skirt. Plastic: The mold that Jason uses for the dome is the same for the Snowtrooper he makes, just as it was in ESB for those screen used costumes. I compared it to my own snowtrooper and there is a slight variation from my snowie to his commander helmet, as would be expected. He sent me several photos of the fabrication process of the parts of the mold, which I have decided not to post so the page will load quicker (esp on mobile), however I always love to see sculpt photos. The quality of the plastic is excellent and by having him glue the skirt to the dome, you know that the skirt is one straight. This is how it comes in "kit" form. Pre trimmed, pre glued, and chin cup pre trimmed. Because the plastic is already black you do not necessarily have to paint it for a Sapper, just add the goggles and the plastic screw caps over where the ear cups attach. The black is also a perfect base color for IAT Green. here is a photo of what the parts look like before jason assembles them. I have done this. You need to be a Manticoran Treecat to hold one of these things. photo courtesy Intergalactic Supply Issues: the Army helmet is a B pull. I had to ask Jason if he actually DID send me a B pull, or an A pull by mistake. I have had A pulls sent to me that are nowhere near this good. If you have seen my helmet builds over the last ten years, you know I have paid for and built some real garbage, and it was the only option at the time. There is a minor issue on the left side dome of the Army helmet where the plastic got too hot and pockmarked. This is a common issue and Ive fixed it many times. Fill it with primer sander of your choice, and wet sand it with a worn out sanding sponge. Then re-prime and get ready for the color coat of choice (black, or green). All in a days work, and frankly, not much of that. There were no issues on the Commander helmet. The skirt of the Army helmet is slightly shorter on the right than on the left, and in speaking to Jason about this he says he will be creating a new mold which addresses this, so you may never see that. Back to black! Rustoleum satin black paint. Sorry for the fog, I went outside just before it rained and the humidity got to my carmera lens. If you live in the South, you get it. The Army helmet is now ready to finish. My new go-to helmet support is a plastic bump cap. I was given one and put it in my Army Ground Commander helmet and love it. It fits differently than my previous hard hat suspensions. Overall I can recommend these helmets. Im happy with them, the quality of the plastic, and how they are assembled. The heat pull issue is not something you will see in your A pulls that he sends you. You can contact Intergalactic Supply directly at Facebook. He will sell you a kit, or a fully assembled helmet ready to go,its up to you. Contact Intergalactic Supply through FB at facebook.com/IntergalacticSupply/ My sincere thanks to Jason Hill for providing me with these sample helmets for review.

yeah. Ive worked with a few dozen types of screws professionally, and if I was to walk into either hardwarestore or a parts house and asked for a screw, V head is not what I would ask for. countersunk just means that the shape of the screw allows it to sit flush to the surface, unlike pannier head screws.

I believe so. I dont see their stores anymore.

Several have there are others that are oustanding. A second vendor doesnt sound like a bad idea.