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Change Log 1.1 (FINAL TEXT) Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from leather or a leather-like material. A very slight texture is acceptable. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops or extra holes on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the left side of the buckle. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of non-textured leather. Two parallel grooves run the length of the belt 1/8" (3.1mm) in from edge. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer 1" (25mm) from the buckle edge. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
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The next item for discussion will be the under belt. This is a typical Officer/Crewman style belt, and ROTJ style grooves are permitted. Removals in red strikethrough Additions in orange. Text changes in green. Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve. + 2 carved lines -> ROTJ officer belt Change Log 1.0 Imperial Officer style Under Belt The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve. There are 2 grooves 1/8" (3.17mm ) from the edge running the length of the belt.
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Shoulder Ammo Pouch Change Log (FINAL) Shoulder Ammo Pouch There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, or canvas-like material. Closure straps are made of black leather or leather-like material. There is a small pouch on the bottom of the pouch at the right side. Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Attachment is not seen. No straps are visible. Magnets or other source of firm mounting is advised. Oiler pouch is attached to the bottom right side of the right pouch.
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Shoulder Ammo Pouch Change Log 1.1 Shoulder Ammo Pouch There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, leather or leather-like or canvas-like material. Closure straps are made of black leather or leather-like material. Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Attachment is not seen. No straps are visible. Magnets or other source of firm mounting is advised.
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Very good, so moving on. Discussion for the Shoulder ammo pouch. Shoulder Ammo Pouch - There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. - The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, leather or leather-like material. - Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Attached to the left shoulder with an invisible system - magnet system advised. Original text white Revisions in green New text in Orange Shoulder Ammo Pouch Change Log 1.0 Shoulder Ammo Pouch There is an MP-40 ammo pouch attached to the left shoulder and must be filled. The pouch is black in color and made of canvas, leather or leather-like material. Pouch stitching is black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Attachment is not seen. No straps are visible. Magnets or other source of firm mounting is advised.
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TAC VEST Change Log 2.0 (Final) The tactical vest is black Cordura nylon. All straps are black. 1" (25mm) straps are attached to the tactical vest, with four laying horizonatally on either side of the pouches, and two at the front of each pouch. Straps are sewn to match reference images. There are a total of fourteen straps on the front of the vest. There are three M4 / M16 magazine pouches. The 3 "M4 / M16 " each contain a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each packages has a plastic strip mounted at top facing forward. Strip size is 5/32" x 1/2" to 2 5/8" (4mm x 12mm x 68mm). There is a black canvas-covered block on the right side of the vest matching reference, with a 1" ( 25mm )wide strip of elastic or webbing mounted to the vest, going across the front of the block. The main shoulder straps consist of ribbed leather or leather-like material. The front portion of the ribbed shoulder straps measure 1 3/8" (35mm). The front buckles are tri-glide buckles. Vest front tri-glides are attached to the vest with 1 3/8" x 1 3/8" (35mm x 35mm) loops. The quick release buckles on the back of the vest are attached by 1" (25 mm) loops There is a an approximately 1.5" x 1" (38mm x 25mm) specific buckle greeblie mounted above the tri-glide buckles on each side matching reference images. There is a rectangle or loop of leather glued/attached to the shoulder strap construction 2" (50mm) above the front buckle greeblies on both straps. The front face of this rectangle is (35mm x 18mm). The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap has a tri-glide that the end of the strap feeds into, near the back armor box shape. See reference photos for placement. After crossing in the back, shoulder straps are attached on the sides of the vest with quick release buckles. See reference photos for placement. There is a 1" (25mm) leather or leather-like waist strap present at the back of the tac vest, and it is attached to the vest with one quick release buckle on the right or left side of the vest. This quick release buckle is hidden under the scout pouch, and is not seen when worn. A single adjusting tri-glide is centered on the waist strap. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The vest is fitted to the wearer. All vest straps are made of black leather. Vest front tri-glides are attached to the vest with 1 3/8" x 1 3/8"(35mm x 35mm) leather loops. The quick release buckles on the back of the vest are attached by 1" (25 mm) leather loops Front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers of ribbed/ grooved leather strips glued/sewed/bonded together. The first (bottom) layer is 1 3/8" (35mm) with the middle layer added to that. The middle layer shall be 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is centered on top of the first two layers, and is 9/16" (15mm) wide. The three bonded strips run the length of the forward portion of the shoulder strap assembly. The grooved leather strap ends just past the wearers shoulders, and continues on as a single 1" (25mm) leather strip, passing through triglides and into specific quick release buckles, which are held to the vest with 1" (25mm) leather loops. Specific tri-glide buckles holding the vest on the front are made from the game's 3d model, the same goes for the specific buckle greeblies attached to the leather strips just over the tri-glides The waist strap has a single quick release buckle mounted to the right side of the vest using 1" (25mm) black leather loop. This buckle is hidden under the scout pouch and is not seen when worn.
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im old fashioned, but its worked great for me over the years. I put the side shot in Paint, cropped and inverted. its helped me win arguments about shadows, pockets, seams and straps over the years. I see the same folds of cloth you would get when you wrap a box in canvas. But, UNLESS any pocket flap (if one does exist) is covered by the horizontal strap, I would argue this is a block covered in canvas. All images posted reinforce this.
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ARMOR and TAC VEST CHANGE LOG 1.1 Additions in orange. Text / verbage changes in green. ARMOR Armor consists of front and back pieces with two shoulder straps anchored by wedge connectors. Armor is glossy black in color. Molded rubber, black , ribbed shoulder straps are acceptable. Back plate contains detailed "O II" design . The top of the box may have a trapezoid shaped depression 4" x 5" (10.16mm x 127mm) at the top of the trapezoid. There is a 5/16" (8mm) circular indentation below the right shoulder strap connector on the back plate. Armor may contain light stains / weathering. Sliver is not permitted OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. Armor scaling & strapping must fit wearer accurately. O 11 design shall have 16 points/ spikes on the "O" shape, and "11" bar designs shall have 5 indented slot depressions at the bottom of each bar matching references. Trapezoid shaped depression on top of back plate box shall match game references for size, shape and placement. Any visible weathering or staining must be light. TAC VEST - The tactical vest is black Cordura nylon. 1" (25mm) straps are attached to the tactical vest, with four laying horizonatally on either side of the pouches, and two at the front of each pouch. Straps are sewn to match reference images. There are a total of fourteen straps on the front of the vest. - There are three M4 / M16 magazine pouches. - The 3 "M4 / M16 " each contain a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each packages has a plastic strip mounted at top facing forward. Strip size is 5/32" x 1/2" to 2 5/8" (4mm x 12mm x 68mm). There is a black custom-made pouch on the right side of the vest matching reference, with a 1" ( 25mm )wide strip of elastic or webbing mounted to the vest, going across the front of the pouch. The main shoulder straps consist of ribbed leather or leather-like material. The front portion of the ribbed shoulder straps measure 1 3/8" (35mm). The front buckles are tri-glide buckles. Vest front tri-glides are attached to the vest with 1 3/8" x 1 3/8" (35mm x 35mm) loops. The quick release buckles on the back of the vest are attached by 1" (25 mm) loops There is a an approximately 1.5" x 1" (38mm x 25mm) specific buckle greeblie mounted above the tri-glide buckles on each side matching reference images. There is a little rectangle or loop of leather glued/attached to the shoulder strap construction 2" (50mm) above the front buckle greeblies on both straps. The front face of this rectangle is (35mm x 18mm). The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap has a triglide that the end of the strap feeds into, near the back armor box shape. See reference photos for placement. After crossing in the back, shoulder straps are attached on the sides of the vest with quick release buckles. See reference photos for placement. There is a 1" (25mm) leather or leather-like waist strap present, and it is attached to the vest with a quick release buckle on the right side of the vest. An adjusting tri-glide is centered in the back. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): All vest straps are made of leather. Vest front tri-glides are attached to the vest with 1 3/8" x 1 3/8"(35mm x 35mm) leather loops. The quick release buckles on the back of the vest are attached by 1" (25 mm) leather loops Front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers of ribbed/ grooved leather strips glued/sewed/bonded together. The first (bottom) layer is 1 3/8" (35mm) with the middle layer added to that. The middle layer shall be 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is centered on top of the first two layers, and is 9/16" (15mm) wide. The three bonded strips run the length of the forward portion of the shoulder strap assembly. The grooved leather strap ends just past the wearers shoulders, and continues on as a single 1" (25mm) leather strip, passing through triglides and into specific quick release buckles, which are held to the vest with 1" (25mm) leather loops. Specific tri-glide buckles holding the vest on the front are made from the game's 3d model, the same goes for the specific buckle greeblies attached to the leather strips just over the tri-glides The vest is fitted to the wearer.
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ARMOR and Tac Vest discussion. theres already been a lot of discussion about the vest. This is copied from page 1 of the topic Armor - Armor consists of front and back pieces with two shoulder straps anchored by wedge connectors. - Molded rubber, ribbed shoulder straps are acceptable. - Back plate contains detailed "O II" design. - There is a small, circular indentation below the right shoulder strap connector on the back plate. - Armor may contain lightly done silver weathering but is not required. + glossy black in color OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. Armor scaling & strapping must bring together a fitted render + Too visible weathering is not accurate, must be quite discreet ==================================================================================================================== Tactical Vest (VERY TECHNICAL PART....MAY ADD MORE OR UPDATE WRITING.. ) - The tactical vest is black Cordura nylon (Flyye Law Enforcement chest rig is most accurate). - There are three M4-M16 magazine pouches. - The ammo slots hold one hanging box from the front belt and one rectangular case is filled in each pouch.-> useless, valid description is just below \/ - The 3 "M4" Pouches contain padded cloth utility rectangular pouches with a thin ABS front cover painted gloss black, construction matching reference - An AR-15 black single pouch is attached to the right side of vest. -> 100% wrong + There is a black custom made pouch on the right side of the vest matching reference, held by an elastic strip (about 2.5cm wide) - The main shoulder straps consist of ribbed leather or leather-like material. - The front buckles are tri-glide buckles. - There is a an approximately 1.5 inch by 1 inch specific buckle greeblie above the tri-glide buckles on each side.+matching reference + shoulder strapping forms an X a little below the back of neck of the wearer. Strips form diagonal lines in the back, loop into a quick release buckle to go up in the back and end in a V shape. Adjusting tri-glides are present. - Really see Ref #3.. + Waist strip is attached to the vest with a quick release buckle. The strip is looped into its quick release buckle. Adjusting tri-glide is centered in the back Ref #4 + After crossing in the back, shoulder strips are attached on the sides of the vest with quick release buckles OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Every strapping strips are made of leather - if Flyye chest rig is used, every nylon strapping are replaced + Front shoulder strapping is made of 3 layers of leather strips glued/attached together (width : 3.5cm / 2.5 cm / 1.5 cm), this construction stops a little before the strips are drawing an X in the back and continues into a single 2.5cm strip. + There is a little rectangle of leather glued/attached on the 3 layers construction about 5cm above the buckle greeblie on the front (both sides). Ref #5 + Front tri-glides are attached to the vest with leather loops (about 3.5cm wide), same goes for the quick release buckles also attached to the vest with leather loops (2.5 cm wide) - replacing Flyye nylon loops + Waist strip width is 2.5 cm. + Specific tri-glide buckles holding the vest on the front are made from the game's 3d model, the same goes for the specific buckles greeblies glued/attached to the leather strips just over the tri-glides - Ref #6 + The vest is fitted to the wearer, loose strapping/render is Not accurate Can check Ref #9 also ARMOR and TAC VEST CHANGE LOG 1 Removals in red strikethrough. Additions in orange. Text / verbage changes in green. ARMOR Armor consists of front and back pieces with two shoulder straps anchored by wedge connectors. Armor is glossy black in color. Molded rubber, black , ribbed shoulder straps are acceptable. Back plate contains detailed "O II" design . The top of the box may have a trapezoid shaped depression 4" x 5" (10.16mm x 127mm) at the top of the trapezoid. There is a 5/16" (8mm) circular indentation below the right shoulder strap connector on the back plate. Armor may contain ightly done silver weathering but is not required. light stains / weathering. Sliver is not permitted OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Made from the game's 3d model and scaled to the wearer. Armor scaling & strapping must fit wearer accurately. O 11 design shall have 16 points/ spikes on the "O" shape, and "11" bar designs shall have 5 indented slot depressions at the bottom of each bar matching references. Trapezoid shaped depression on top of back plate box shall match game references for size, shape and placement. Any visible weathering or staining must be light. TAC VEST - The tactical vest is black Cordura nylon (Flyye Law Enforcement chest rig is most accurate). - There are three M4 / M16 magazine pouches. - The 3 "M4 / M16 " Pouches contain padded cloth utility rectangular pouches with a thin ABS front cover painted gloss black, construction matching reference each contain a rectangular package covered in the same fabric as the tactical vest. The packages fill the pouches completely, and extend above the pouch. Each packages is covered with a plastic strip mounted at top facing forward. Strip size is 5/32" x 1/2" to 2 5/8" (4mm x 12mm x 68mm). - An AR-15 black single pouch is attached to the right side of vest. -> 100% wrong There is a black custom-made pouch on the right side of the vest matching reference, with an elastic strip about 1" ( 25mm )wide mounted to the vest, going across the front of the pouch. The main shoulder straps consist of ribbed leather or leather-like material. The front buckles are tri-glide buckles. There is a an approximately 1.5 inch by 1 inch specific buckle greeblie mounted above the tri-glide buckles on each side matching reference images. The shoulder straps cross near the top of the back armor box. Each shoulder strap has a triglide that the end of the strap feeds into, near the back armor box shape. See reference photos for placement. After crossing in the back, shoulder straps are attached on the sides of the vest with quick release buckles. See reference photos for placement. There is a 1" (25mm) waist strap present, and it is attached to the vest with a quick release buckle on the right side of the vest. An adjusting tri-glide is centered in the back. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): All straps are leather or simulated leather. Flyye chest rig will have all straps replaced with leather straps described below. Vest front tri-glides are attached to the vest with 1 3/8" (35mm) leather loops. The quick release buckles on the back of the vest are attached by 1" (25 mm) leather loops Front shoulder straps which go over the shoulder and continue to the back are made of 3 layers of ribbed/ grooved leather strips glued/sewed/bonded together. The first (bottom) layer is 1 3/8" (35mm) with the middle layer added to that. The middle layer shall be 1" (25mm) wide. The final layer is centered on top of the first two layers, and is 9/16" (15mm) wide. The three bonded strips run the length of the forward portion of the shoulder strap assembly. There is a little rectangle or loop of leather glued/attached to the shoulder strap construction 2" (25mm) above the front buckle greeblies on both sides. The grooved leather strap ends just past the wearers shoulders, and continues on as a single 1" (25mm) leather strip, passing through triglides and into specific quick release buckles, which are held to the vest with 1" (25mm) leather loops. Specific tri-glide buckles holding the vest on the front are made from the game's 3d model, the same goes for the specific buckle greeblies attached to the leather strips just over the tri-glides The vest is fitted to the wearer.
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That will be a question for Endor Finders to answer, and since they are sold in pairs that doubles their sale rate.
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Compad Rectangular communications pad with patterned painted details matching reference photo. Compad is worn with the four large, rectangular buttons pointing towards the wearer’s elbow. Compad is rectangular in shape and fits within the compad pocket window. Details of the compad differ from the standard TIE Pilot compad. Black buttons are smaller than the red and white buttons; the white button located adjacent to the button with multiple dimples may be a single piece, instead of split in two segments. Compad base color is silver, metallic grey, or weathered silver. Compad size is 2.5" (63.5mm) x 2" (50mm). Compad is fully visible above the glove, facing outward on the arm. For basic approval (Level 1) a standard TIE pilot style compad painted and worn to match game references may be accepted for use. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):Compad shall be Inferno Squad style with correct button sizes, layout and colors. Two black buttons at the top of the pad are smaller than the white and red buttons. The white button adjacent to the button with holes/dimples is not split. Compad is moderately weathered / stained. Gauntlet Gloves Black, leather or leather-like material, enclosed fingered, non-textured, (normal leather grain/texture/lines are acceptable) fitted gauntlet style. No buckles, straps, or decorative stitching. There is a split on the bottom gauntlet portion that runs from the glove opening to the wrist that is bridged with leather or leather-like material - Gloves are made of leather.
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Flight Suit - One-piece flight suit is made out of canvas or similar heavy material. - The front zipper is covered by a 2-inch-wide piece of leather or leather-like material with vertical lines that attaches with Velcro over the zipper. - Approximately 1.5" (38.1mm) tall mandarin collar with a chevron shaped, left-over-right Velcro closure. A 2.5-inch red embroidered or PVC Inferno Squad emblem, on a black background, is present on both shoulders. - The shoulders of the suit are slightly padded. - A compad pocket that properly fits the compad is placed above the left glove so that the pocket is not hidden, and faces outward on the arm. - On the left bicep below the cog emblem, there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves. No code cylinders are present. - There is a piece of nylon strapping sewn below the pen sleeve openings and is the same length as the top of the pocket. - The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves. - The right sleeve has a cargo pocket below the cog emblem. - The right arm pocket has a chevron flap. - Two large chest pockets and two large front pockets with no zippers or flaps are present below the belt - There are no leg pockets below the knees. - There are two red stripes that run up the right side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the right leg and continues up to the right armpit. The second begins at the right wrist and stops at the bottom of the arm pocket. The stripe then continues above the arm pocket, behind the patch emblem to the shoulder seam. - There are two black stripes that run up the left side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the left leg and continues up to the left armpit. The second begins at the left wrist and stops at the bottom of the compad pocket. The stripe then continues above the compad pocket up to the bottom edge of the pen sleeves then continues above the pen sleeves, behind the patch emblem to the shoulder seam. - There are two black stripes that run up the left side of the flight suit. The first begins at the bottom of the left leg and continues up to the left armpit. The second begins at the left wrist and stops at the bottom of the compad pocket. The stripe then continues above the compad pocket up to the bottom edge of the pen sleeves then continues above the pen sleeves, behind the patch emblem and up over the shoulder ending at the bottom of the collar. - A piece of leather or leather-like material is sewn below the pen sleeve openings and is the same length as the top of the pocket. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): + Patches are vinyl on textile with no edge border. If twill is used for the patch material the fabric texture will be vertically oriented. + Textured canvas is most accurate for the flightsuits construction as it is a thick materials with a "solid" structure . A "loose", soft or lightweight material is not accurate.
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Thanks to everyone who worked on this. Forward progress!
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Proposal for Army Trooper CRL Update
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Trooper
Quick update- waiting new photos and final LMO review. -
Proposal for updates to the Army Engineer
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Engineer
Quick update on this. Currently at CL 1.1 . We should have all input in by now. -
Ok, so now we have the flightsuit at change log 1.3 on the previous page. We have discussed the commpad and have a working model of it. we have not talked about the gloves, those are next in CRL order. Lets get those hammered out. This part should be quick, once we are in agreement we move to the next section. Commpad and Glove text discussion Change LOG 1 Additions in orange Compad Rectangular communications pad with patterned painted details matching reference photo. Commpad base color is silver, metallic grey, or weathered silver. Compad is worn with the four large, rectangular buttons pointing towards the wearer’s elbow. Commpad is rectangular in shape and fits within the commpad pocket window. Size is 2.5" (63.5mm) x 2" (50mm). Compad is fully visible above the glove, facing outward on the arm. Gauntlet Gloves - Black, leather or leather-like material, enclosed fingered, non-textured, (normal leather grain/texture/lines are acceptable) fitted gauntlet style. - No buckles, straps, or decorative stitching. - There is a split on the bottom gauntlet portion that runs from the glove opening to the wrist that is bridged with leather or leather-like material - Gloves are made of leather.
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they do. even my old BishopX typical commpad clone has bent buttons, but most of the newer 3D files no longer bend and all of the buttons are elevated . there is a discussion on the new commpad elsewhere here in this Topic . New pads will be available soon.