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Congrats! And thanks!!!

This would be the brow...its addressed in the 4th bullet Level 1 and the 3rd bullet Level 2.

Thanks. To bring up to speed regarding counts, the discussion was settled that on the majority of parts we would not use line counts in Level 1 (particularly due to accommodate troopers of different sizes). The helmet is currently the main exception to that being the defining piece of the armor. Reading it back tho i just couldnt see a GML counting anything in double digits.

@nanotek @gmrhodes13 @JoeShoe @Blackwatch @IcyTrooper @rickyboyblue @ukswrath Topic unlocked. I will be going through each item and adjusting punctuation, bullet formatting, wording adjustments, and drawing any final questions to the text. I am tagging @ionicdesign and to do a spot check on the CRL as a whole and to critique the CRLs accessibility to GMLs. We have Level 1 and Level 2 divided but I am still struggling with some portions being difficult reads for GMLs and would like his (Michael's) assistance on that. YELLOW - Items of question GREEN - Additions RED - Removals And if my color key is off know I am color blind (lol seriously have issues with colors). I've highlighted all numbers in yellow...though i know you all have the details locked in...I'm not sure it's fully necessary for Level 1 text as I just can't see a GML doing the counts, but counts are not unheard of on CRLs even down to our most popular ANH TK (tube stripes, teeth, ear bumps). So with that, the highlight to come to one final consensus decision. Once a section has been cleared, I will edit the top post text. To begin...the helmet... Helmet Finished in a high gloss deep red that matches the colors of the entire costume. Lenses are black in color. They may be bubble in shape or flat and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. The lens frame extends back underneath the trap and terminates approx. 1cm from the back of the trap. The brow extends out from the lens forming a significant overhang. There are two recessed lines that run parallel to and are above the brow. The bottom recess extends above the clip greeblie running parallel to the trap and connects with the recess at the rear of the helmet. The top recess terminates where it intersects with the bottom recess line. A "mohawk" section runs along the center from front to back but is not raised. 16 recessed lines run parallel to the "mohawk"-like section from front to back on each side. The mohawk starts from the second brow line and extends toward the back, terminating in the recessed lines at the back. The frown is semi-gloss black with the following features: The mouth has one center "tooth" that connects to the snout and is separated by a detail that has a greeblie section with 14 "ribs." The mouth has 4 teeth either side of the center “tooth." There is no hexagonal mesh in the mouth area between the teeth. (Level 2 mentions no mesh as well. Should this then be a Level 2 requirement or does this negate the Level 2 line?) The area from the bottom of the mouth extending to the tears has hexagonal mesh. The center tooth is the width of the bridge and has 14 small ribs at the top. The jawline is angular and has the following details: Flat trapezoidal section that extends 3/4 way down the jawline from the frown. Flat triangular sections, one each side of the trapezoid. 10 recessed lines that extend from the base of the flat triangular section. Each tear (area beneath the corners of lens frame) contains the following details: is Angular. Solid matte black. Recessed circle in the bottom most corner. has 3 recessed lines separating the top tear from the bottom section. Faceplate is two separate angular pieces that mirror each other with the following details: 14 recessed lines on each. Curved lower section that starts from the tear and curves towards the front of the jaw forming a filleted ledge. The ledge is more pronounced at the tear end smaller towards the frown. Faceplates are separated by a channel that runs vertically along the bridge of the nose between the lens and frown. The bridge of the nose has 10 small rectangular ribs from frown to lens frame with one larger one at the top. The side of the jawline has. 7 rectangular cut out vents/tube stripe slots are on each side of the helmet. They have the appearance of being black at the base of each slot. 5 recessed lines extend from the front of the jaw and terminate in an angled manner below the trap. There angle of termination is complementary to the black trapezoidal shape. Two helmet clip greeblies are present over the traps on each side. Directly below the traps is a detail comprised of a vertical alignment of shapes in the following order: a Small raised circular shape. a Recessed B shape. a Small raised circular shape. Below the traps toward the back and base of the helmet is a small black trapezoidal stripe. There are 5 recessed lines at the back forming a trapezoidal shape. The angle at which the recesses terminate are complementary to the rear black trapezoidal shape. There is one slightly wider recess channel that extends all the way around the base of the helmet. The base of the channel is black is about 8mm wide by 8mm deep. (corresponding inch measures) Matches all the angles of the helmet as shown. The bottom of the helmet has a black ledge that runs the perimeter of the helmet that extends back into the interior. Black ledge is approx. 3/4" to 1" wide. (mm measures too please) Matches the angles of the helmet, most notable is the jawline. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Lenses are bubble-like or bulbous in shape. Lens frame has 4 recessed notches near the top of the tear. The brow has the following details: There is a cutout section under the brow. There is a raised section underneath the brow that has a pattern comprised of 62 recessed pill shapes. The teeth are are metallic black or a very dark gray. Faceplate pieces are visibly separate pieces, 4 slots under each faceplate for covering the teeth. The tube vents are a solid backing and painted black. No mesh or cloth is present. The helmet clip greeblies are the correct clips (refer clip greeblies diagram).

@Blackwatch knows this...but based on worldwide availability (affordability) we will just have to settle on some generic terms to get the color as close as possible. What he has done in the helmet is about right I think.

@Allan1313 a new ECG!

maybe see if theres a way to be able to swap the flashlight on n off. two for one

Getting there @Bozzy! Will you be adding a DLT-19 to your arsenal as well?

My boxers (which are like a spandex dri-fit material) and a dri-fit tshirt. Bout it.

@SpaceWelder Regarding the flightsuit pouches...the angled flaps in my opinion should be ok. In the original reference artwork, the flaps themselves are very hard to makeout. There are some instances where they are unseen: and in others where you can see the rectangular flap: The CRL itself however does not mention the shape of the flap. @Blackwatch? As far as the clips...they need to be hidden. That line is there as clips are a method of "construction" that shouldn't be seen...notice the CRL line says: "Visible snap-hook style fasteners that attach to belt eyelets are acceptable." Not necessarily required. If you are going for Specialist Level 2 (blue text) standards, that's where the "main body" of the fastener needs to be hidden. Notice here, not entirely...just main body. This allows for troopers to have the hooks as a means of securing/unsecuring the harness from the belt at the front while suiting up. The references do not show hooks...but for real life practical use, they are allowed so long as they are for the most part hidden. So if you are able to hide them, or find a way to practically put on/take off the harness/belt without them, it seems like a viable option to me.

Got it...yea it's not like a gradual concave slope from what I see (like a scout trooper TD) but more angled and sharper (chamfered lol). I'm good then.

No further discussion or debate outside of the L1/L2 split @nanotek did. We should be able to wrap this piece up then along with the other 3 pending. Welcome back...yea hang here...we really need to bang this out so you guys can get your approval submissions in. Your help is most definitely appreciated.

Excellent! Passing this to the PR team Now on to finish that update!

haha. hey if ur the first u can dub it what u want lol the corrosive weathering effect is really well done by the way. now to see it on you. i will be shooting u a pm as well

Yes indeed that looks pretty good to me!

Can "chocolate bars" be replaced with rectangles?

Seems good...though I will admit I was getting a bit lost in determining which box was being talked about. That may be an issue for GMLs unfamiliar with the costume.

I can't find a good shot of that right side end cap...and I only took notice because "chamfered" wasn't a word I was familiar with lol.

Ditto to the second part. We try to align parts...but with all the cross-used parts over all the costumes over all the detachments, constant CRL updates, potential yearly staff turnovers, etc. it's not always feasible or efficient to do so. @JAFO is correct in stating detachments operate independently of one another in their requirements. I did check both...the Mimban Trooper CRL has an E-11 with 3 tiers...our Mudtrooper CRL has just 2 tiers for an E-11B and significantly less text...we don't even touch the tier 3 details.

and yes the angled plastic will give the tank a contact/resting point at the top. u can glue it to the back tank...in my kit i actually cut a slit and put the angled plastic through the back plate to the interior...then riveted it as well so it wont ever pop off

@CrookKnight the back tank does not have to be perfectly flush (esp at the bottom). Get it as close as u can. Ive attached an original TB so u can see how off they were in fact on screen. That said, the close u can get it the better looking it will be. Additionally, the bottom rivet will help in pulling the tank to the back.

copy that!

@nanotek Will this be one CRL piece entry or 2 separate pieces (2 separate pics)?

do you have a link where these can be purchased? it would be good to add to our list of piece providers

So like a Franken-Magma. Interesting! My guess is by the time you are ready to submit this, the CRL proposal will have been published (we are just waiting for pictures). I would suggest following the text here in anticipation of the update: https://forum.specops501st.com/topic/7111-proposed-crl-modification-crimson-stormtrooper-magma-trooper/