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It looks right for a Rogue 1 helmet, which is right for a Del Meeko at least at L1. Ill let the real Del experts weigh in on whether it would fit an L2 requirement, but keep in mind that our new Del Meeko CRL has not been published yet and we are still working on the originally published CRL. You can tell its an R1 because of details like the recessed rectangle on the mohawk, and the recessed disc spots on the ears. I cant see the original buckle mounts on the faceplate, but we know those are different from OT helmets. Overall it looks good to me, and make sure to log in over at the Inferno squadron topics if you are looking to go Del. Heres the Del helmet from the current CRL By comparison of size heres mine, its a Dan Laws, and its about the biggest out there. These bigger helmets work better for bigger people, with broad shoulders. it pretty much stretches a Raider helmet bag and ive already broken one zipper trying to close it.
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Proposal for Army Trooper CRL Update
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Trooper
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Proposal for Army Trooper CRL Update
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Trooper
Here is a clear, one -sheet version of our proposals: Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. Helmet - Version 1 Open face helmet whose base consists of a dome with rim and helmet skirt. The helmet skirt is to be smooth all around with no indentations on the rear. A telemetry unit is attached centered to the right or left sides of the dome aligned to the rim. The telemetry unit consists of: Rectangular box with a slight bevel and details on. The box is in the same color as the helmet. 1 telemetry unit details closely resembles the reference photos. The helmet is to be painted in olive tone with a flat or satin finish. A black trim is covering the edge of the helmet skirt and forehead of the dome. Black chin strap and chin cup. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Screw caps are positioned on both sides of the helmet skirt where the chin cup straps meet the helmet. The helmet Telemetry Unit (TU) is mounted to the left side of helmet, and is larger than the standard Imperial TU. The TU features three lines at the front of the unit, below a raised disc 3/8" (10mm) wide. The outfacing side of the TU has a 1" to 1.125" (25-31mm) raised disc. The rear portion of the TU has a raised rectangular block which is the same overall height and thickness as the raised disc, and extends back from the TU 3/16" (3mm). The rear raised block continues around the backside of the TU, to the mounting flange at the helmet. The top of the TU features a raised bar the width and length of the TU, stopping just short of both upper corners of the TU. The TU has a mounting flange which closely matches the curvature of the helmet. The TU matches the same color of the helmet, and may be weathered. Goggles - Version 1 Goggles should have a square-like black or green frame with angled sides and dark green lenses. Goggle strap is a minimum of 1" (25mm) wide, as required by the goggle width. Black is acceptable for basic approval. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Goggle straps are green or grey-green, and are as wide as the goggle mount slots permit. Goggle frame is green. Hat, Olive - Version 2 Fabric is a medium weight suiting material of olive green. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6mm) high. Front bill extends 3" (76mm) down, decorated with (5) (6) or (7) concentric stitches. An Imperial Code Disk may be positioned in the center of the front vertical “flap,” but is not required. Green Imperial Flight Suit One-piece olive green coverall / jumpsuit / flight suit with a front invisible zipper and mandarin collar. Each shoulder has a patch as noted below. 2 large chest pockets. 2 large cargo pockets sit on the outside of each leg from around mid-thigh and not extending past the bottom of the knee, with a rectangular flap covering the top. There are no leg pockets below the knees. Rank bars of any kind are not permitted. Pockets may feature gussets. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Mandarin collar is closed by a chevron shaped strap across the neck. A single snap is present near the chevron point. Snap does not need to functional. Snap should be olive green in color. Imperial Army Patch A shield shaped patch. The patch has an Imperial cog symbol approximately 2.75" to 3" (70-76mm) in diameter. The background of the patch has a more narrow shield shaped design on top of a box colored a darker shade of green. Olive Gloves Olive drab, wrist length gloves constructed of leather, Kevlar or similar material. Enclosed fingers. No buckles, straps, etc. May have three stitched lines or square padding on the back of the hand. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gloves are made of leather with the correct set of parallel lines stitched on the back of the hand. Web Harness Olive green colored, double strap “H” harness which travels from the lower back, and up over the shoulders. The harness system attaches to the belt. Harness is made of 2" (50mm) olive green nylon webbing. Visible snap-hook style fasteners that attach to belt eyelets are acceptable. Tri-glides may be present on front or back of the suspenders. Back of suspenders may be permanently fastened to the belt, but not required. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Harness fasteners are not seen, and may be hidden behind the belt. Tri-glides are present on the front suspenders for harness adjustment. Tri-glides are level with each other. Belt Belt is a nylon military style quick release web belt. Belt is olive green in color. Belt may feature eyelets along both sides of its length, but these are not required for approval. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt buckle is olive green in color. Belt Pouches Belt pouches are olive green in color and should be made of nylon or similar material. A minimum of 4 small pouches are required, which may consist of any combination of double handcuff, small utility pouches, magazine pouches or other MOLLE style pouches of similar size. Two pouches should be placed in front - One on each side of the belt buckle where the harness meets the belt. The remaining pouches may be placed anywhere on the sides or back of the belt. Any additional OD green MOLLE style pouches are encouraged to fill out the belt, but are not required. Pouches with zippers shall have the zippers covered or concealed either with a matching fabric or tight weave webbing. Zipper pulls are either removed or hidden from view. Boots Below the calf black or green leather or leather-like material. Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments. Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/leather, it is painted black. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Olive green 8” to 9” (20-23cm) high boots. Pants legs shall be tucked into boots and fluffed to give appearance of original source art. Weathering of the boots is encouraged. Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use. TK Ammo Belt Belt face is made of white plastic (TK ammo belt). The soft belt proper is made of canvas, or material with a canvas covering. Size must be 2.75” to 3.25” (70-83mm) wide and not wider than the plastic portion of the belt. The color is be white to off-white. The drop boxes dangle from the sides of the front plastic belt (ammo belt) via white straps and are aligned under the plastic tabs of the ammo belt. Belt may be worn to match reference art, above or below the pistol belt. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): ROTJ style TK ammo belt. No buttons are present on belt. Drop boxes shall be ANH Stormtrooper size, not ROTJ stormtrooper size. Weathering of ammo belt is encouraged. E-11 Blaster Based on a real or replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. DH-17 Blaster Scratch built or high-end prop replica. E-11 Holster Holster is made of Nylon, leather or similar material. Black or olive green in color. -
it comes down to two kinds of pilots and the ATAT driver: Regular Pilots *Im a TI and ATAT driver* which should be on the large side. It was made from a US Navy APH-6 size Large helmet, with a Stunt TK faceplate stuck into it. That gives us the size. for Del Meeko and the Inferno squad helmets, we just fiished up the CRL for that, and that helmet is small. Frankly, as small as the helmet should be, I bet I could not wear it. Ive worn a ton of different helmets from different makers, but since thenew Del Meeko CRL requires that the helmet be made small on purpose, Im passing on the costume. Could you post up a picture of the helmet you printed? with a tape measure going over the helmet? I had a helmet comparison topic posted in the JRS years ago, but photobucket ate a ton of my pics. here is Jez's site of the original helmets Star Wars helmets . com and the TIE and ATAT direct links.
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1. GREAT find on that slate blue. I love that color. Ill grab a can of this weekend JUST BECAUSE its a great color. 2. agree with the knees, I dont see any issues with the text, but I really dont get how the conical parts would blend into the undersuit. Does that mean its mounted to the suit? or, APPEAR to be mounted to the undersuit, using a flange hidden underneat the knee armor? 3: On the boots, if Gio wants a stab at it, ok, but being a armor maker that mounts sintra on top of boots, my reational would be to prototype them out in cardboard, then build it up in 3mm black sintra. I built my Mk41 battle armor boots this way, withthe boot mounted on a big thick floor foam pad. This was how i prototyped them, and the hinge at the toe had to work so I could walk. Just an idea, but its how i tend to handle parts like this.
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were working out the blue grey color. it will be a lot easier in spray can, i love to use model paints and spray cans are available, its just if we can get what we agree on. Alex has info on some of the paints he used, some were custom mixes too. We'll get it across the line, push pull or drag. Theres amazing work going into this.
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at 12mm a Tandy line 20 snap will work, i just measured one with my caliper and a Tandy line 24 snap is .57 inch, so it will work.
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New CRL Proposal - Lieutenant Janek Sunber (SW:E)
Blackwatch replied to Tarrif's topic in Lieutenant Janek Sunber
yes it does and you are on track. Shane was originally going to source the stuff for this and do it. The only issue may be having the correct matching fabric for the arm pockets. I have in the past cut the leg bottoms off my pants, sewed a piece of fabric back on so they can tuck back in, and made pockets with that fabric. You dont even "NEED" working pockets. a strip the size of the one seen on regular crewmans uniforms, suitably folded/ tucked under and stitched, looks like a pocket. Ive done it, I just cant use it as a pocket. you may be able to make two pockets out of a single pants leg cuff that way. Maybe. The rest is either readily sourced or in these modern times, printed.- 119 replies
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New CRL Proposal - Lieutenant Janek Sunber (SW:E)
Blackwatch replied to Tarrif's topic in Lieutenant Janek Sunber
I am bumping this topic. Currently we do not have the officer version of the Imperial Army trooper established. The CRL is a guide, but we need someone to be the first to build it.- 119 replies
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PROPOSED MODIFIED CRL- DEL MEEKO- finalized text.
Blackwatch replied to Blackwatch's topic in Inferno Squad Del Meeko
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Neal has the Crooknights 3d printed pack. I made mine entirely by sintra 3mm and 6mm. You can see it in both our builds. he waited for his to be printed them had to fix all the lines, I just made mine out of Sintra in a few days using cardboard patterns.
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Proposal for Army Trooper CRL Update
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Trooper
on the goggles strap color, i see OD in most of the photos, but I would accept black at L1. I would suggest black strap for L1 and an olive / green tone strap for L2 approval. On the belt, I feel we can use the regular green pistol belts for L1 , and as I said above, if the builder can find a belt with no grommets, that should be allowed for L2 but not made mandatory, which is why I said that the belt MAY feature grommets at L2. I have another proposal to make, just so everone is on the same page. These pouches are pretty simple with no real features other than the snap. Pouches with zippers shall have the zippers covered or concealed either with a matching fabric or tight weave webbing. Zipper pulls are either removed or hidden from view. No velcro shall be visible. -
dude, serious, that was a super helfpul tutorial.
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man congratulations on approval!!! yes this is intended to be a fast and easy / low dollar unit, and you will have fun wearing it. Trust me, throw those goggles on per the comics with the hat flapped around andyou WILL get comments! Now go dig a ditch1
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raIsed surface features? raised boxes? if you need a wide material that will bend I have made fabric hinges with three layers of fabric stitched at the edges, and I have also used 4" wide elastic. it is sold as mil spec elastic, but its just really wide elastic, and comes in colors like black and white
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Proposal for Army Trooper CRL Update
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Trooper
On the belt, I feel we can keep the grommets. The images between the Trooper, Engineer and Sapper vary. Most dont show it. some do. To me thats the same reason the artist didnt draw the text into the sapper tab over the IA patch. We have been approving all three types with the standard military style grommets as Specialistis. I support keeping this standard belt, unless we rephotograph all the CRL model images to preclude betlt grommets. We can change the wording so that the L2 text may or may not feature grommets. Or we can put that into the L1 text. Such as Belt may feature grommets that run along both the top and bottom of its length. On the goggles, all straps are black. The sizes vary, but anything in the 1" (25mm) range or wider should be fine. This is what we have proposed for the Engineer and Sapper Pouches with zippers shall have the zippers covered or concealed either with a matching fabric or tight weave webbing. Zipper pulls are either removed or hidden from view. -
Proposal for updates to the Army Engineer
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Engineer
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Proposal for updates to the Army Engineer
Blackwatch replied to ShovelGuy's topic in Imperial Army Engineer
Wanna throw out a minor change to the belt pouches. Since none are visible , its been discussued that zippers and zipper pulls should not be visible. This is not covered in the CRL. So, with a line, we can remove any zippers. They can easily be covered with a layer of fabric tape *light tight weave military webbing* or the pouch could be flipped upside down. The pulls shall be removed or completely hidden. Proposal , new text in orange BELT POUCHES Belt pouches are olive green in color and should be made of nylon or similar material. A minimum of 4 small pouches are required, which may consist of any combination of double handcuff, small utility pouches, magazine pouches or other molle style pouches of similar size. Two pouches should be placed in front - One on each side of the belt buckle where the harness meets the belt. The remaining pouches may be placed anywhere on the sides or back of the belt. Any additional OD green MOLLE style pouches are encouraged to fill out the belt, but are not required. Pouches with zippers shall have the zippers covered or concealed either with a matching fabric or tight weave webbing. Zipper pulls are either removed or hidden from view. -
Jill you can hit a hobby shop and get a bottle of FS35237 grey blue. its literally my favorite color, and its the color our aircraft cockpits are painted. DIfferent makers make it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/264232162034